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Well at the time it was kinda ambiguous. Course now we know he didn’t, at least until they pulled a “now I must go” kinda crap with him in Lightning Returns that I still call BS on.
+Nathan Pringle I was thinking the exact same thing. I KNEW what was coming and gave myself a little pep talk "Okay. You know what happens....don't cry....You don't need to cry." Yeah....That didn't last long. I'm still wiping tears from my face. Damnit Caius!
That moment when you know that sh** is going down... I actually love the ending. It's refreshing to see a game not ending happily. We all know things will be fixed with Lightning Returns, but still.. I also liked very much that the ending is a cliffhanger. Need more of those even in videogames. Makes things more interesting.
simple really. Etro is a Fal'Cie. Etro is the one who intervened and made Vanille and Fang crystal once vanille ran away, and I strongly suspect that the reason snow is a L'Cie again is because he asked Etro for help to save his wife. It is the kind of thing Etro would do. Lightning completed her focus as a L'ie to Etro so Lightning turned to crystal until the time when she is called upon again. If the mythos is cement, it is probably Bhunivelze who awakens Lighnting in Lightning Returns
10:30 This is such a pretty song, but this scene makes me cry. Such a happy song to such a tragic ending all the way around... taking both Serah AND Mog into consideration for meohmy5.
The interesting thing is, regardless of whether or not you choose to kill Caius, what Noel does remains the same: he spares Caius. And then Caius deliberately impales himself on Noel's blade. It's interesting because it feels like Noel has even surpassed the player. I just noticed. The glow in Caius' eye is the same as the Heart of Chaos. Does he have another manifestation of a god in his body? That would explain why he still lives.
Personally I found it fitting, not during the death, but after, where it abruptly stops and is dead silent while chaos happens. Makes it a total holy crap moment.
I remember when I beat this game, I mourned for over a week about Serah’s death. My brother said I was being ridiculous, but this is the game that made me fall in love with video games. Although everything is righted in the end, it doesn’t change how devastated I was! And then Lightning being in crystal gave me chills…needless to say, I preordered Lightning Returns
He wanted to protect her, he cared for her as a friend. They both have their own love life, but they cared for each other, they grew close because of how long they had been together, partners, trying to save the world together.
@@lilaheart4224 same but at the same time, i kind of got a more Yeulish feeling with Sarah, more like he had a duty to protect Sarah, much like in his timeline he was meant to protect Yeul
It's a rarity to see such a dark ending.. And though I welcome it, it's still a royal kick in the face :< It could've taken a turn for the worse some other way, but nooooo!
@MonoChromium One of the Paradox Endings explains it. It's the ending where Noel kills Caius, but he ends up absorbing the Heart of Chaos instead of destroying it.
nope, i'm saying that chaos creates itself from other manifestations of chaos which are mere shadows of its presence, when these other chaoses die, their existence and consciousness feed one true chaos, who then sends fragments of his own power across time and space to eventually become these exact same manifestations, who then send their power back to create the true chaos in a logic loop. kind of like a time paradox, but on a multiuniversal scale.
Only a guardian can stab him. That is why he tried to get Lightning to do it in the opening. Also, that is why he needed Noel to do it. Only a guardian can do it. Caius and Noel were the last 2 guardians on Earth to protect Etro.
Ahhh, Valhalla. What an amazing sight to behold. (17:13) Whenever I have a chance to get a glance at the city and Etro's Shrine/Temple(especially Etro's Temple), I felt amazement at the beauty of the Unseem Realm's City and anger that I can't explore it and the city a little. Does anyone else thinks that Valhalla, along with Etro's Temple, is one of the top 5 most unique(to you) and greatly design place/city/structure with a interesting(to you) backstory behind said place?
anywho, the idea is that all beings linked to chaos in any fashion, including the fabula chaos have this link. but again, it's just me coming up with random stuff, the thought had occurred to me and was nagging so much that i decided to see what you guys thought of it. honestly, it sounds like one of the most epic mindfucks ever.
@ldc62 There's nothing that says we won't get a sequel and everything that says we will. The DLC they plan to add for Lightning and Sazh(with nothing else confirmed thus far) will just explain how they ended up where they are. With Lightning essentially becoming the Goddess, Snow wandering around as a L'Cie, Noel's status as guardian(not to mention existence), and whether or not Serah will reincarnate as Yuel does as a recipient of the Goddess' blessings, there are too many questions to answer.
@AzureDarkGod Yep, I have to say the voice casting was pretty well done in this game. Caius's English voice is really similar to his Japanese voice actor.
Not gonna lie, i miss when games had dark or bad endings- it's uncommon Idk if that's why i love this game so much Sometimes, things go very wrong~ i know that games have good endings to have that sense of acchievement, but i would love to see more game with tragic endings
@TheMustik92 what do you mean "she found Mog"... watch the opening scene of FF13-2... ( not the opening part where you wait to activate the opening scene, at the start of game)
how many of you were like me that you watched the ending before even playing the game once and didn't care about this ending but when you played the game you ended up crying your asses off i've passed this game about 10 times and i gets me everytime.... i loved serah and the fact that she died had me pissed off so i hope she at least makes a spiritual appearance or something in lightning returns
So he said the Goddess is dead, but he still looks like he has the powers he had before. His eyes glowed liked Noctis's. Noctis's eyes are supposed to glow because of the goddess Etro's gift. The lore is connected. So how does he still have his powers of the Goddess?
The Heart of Chaos holds the lifeforce of Etro. That's why the one with the heart is immortal for they hold the power of a goddess. And there is no new Yeul. Etro is the reason she was immortal as well. So, in destroying the Heart of Chaos, he killed the goddess which released Yeul and Caius of her powers and their cursed cycle.
That one minute of Caius being [Ca]pta[i]n Obvio[us] (HEY, YOU CAN EVEN SPELL IT WITH HIS NAME) and then asking Yuel on a date was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo worth the fucktons of hours spent getting the secret ending. Totally.
i have the sneaking suspicion that caius isn't going to be the focus of the game, they're probably just going to clean up his mess without getting on his bad side again. (We all saw how fucking with caius ballad turns out.)
Does that mean I can finally defeat Caius without him reviving again and again? I did that paradox ending with serah and when he popped back up with half his health after the first KO I almost tore out my hair.
I don't think Caius is still alive. It's probably just his spirit like when you see Serah in Lightning's Requium (spell check) but then again everyone kept saying that life and death lose all meaning in Valhalla so maybe he never really died in the first place. I dunno
Oh, I HATED it at first but yes, it was refreshing to see a game, especially a Final Fantasy games, not end happily. I have a feeling it may be the same for the next one.
Serah dying sort of reminds me of Aerith's death...not the circumstances...just the suddenness and how much it seems to impact the audience...it's pretty tough not to choke up a bit the first time you see this...
This ending was predetermined but it wasjust mind blowing. The entire time they said that Serah's life was in danger, then she dies. Caius has Etro's heart, Etro = Goddess = Kill = Gran Pulse turns into Valhalla. What's mysterious is Lightning turning into Crystal/Stone on Etro's throne. Whether or not that was Caius's doing or Etro's. Or that if Lightning became Etro (that's why she's a stone/crystal). FFXIII COME AT ME!
@ffandcinema Probably because he knew the heart of chaos wouldn't get destroyed and instead consume Noel just like it did Caius so he needed to know he had the strength to overcome it?
When I saw the new cocoon go up in to the sky I screamed my ass off... I saw a little bit more sarah died I cried... everyrhing went to darkness and saw lightning in crystal.. I stared in awe =0 now I'm thinking... Final Fantasy XIII-3? That would definitley a first.
@tokyo200 Give me the link to that news that they are not making another one. Square enix did register the domain name of Final Fantasy 13-3. The last time they registered a domain name.......it was under Final Fantasy 13-2. We see how THAT turned out. Lol
I love final fantasy and this one really got me into the history way more than the others dunno why and it really really made me sad see that ending it was like "awww everything is..." "WHATA FUCK!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS SERAH DIED?!" *waits a few more seconds* "NOW THE WORLD GONE TO SHIT?! CMOOON!!!" :(
The ending was once spoiled for me, and it's still one of my favorite scenes
Made me cry when Serah had a vision death and Noel shouting Serah ;(
Caius sitting on Etro's Throne should be a much more iconic scene than it is. I got chills when I first saw that.
TripThreez I think Lightning sitting on etro's throne is way better it gives me chills every time I think about it that is my opinion
No one's talking about the REAL tragedy here!
R.I.P Mog ;_;
Mog ain't even dead
Well at the time it was kinda ambiguous. Course now we know he didn’t, at least until they pulled a “now I must go” kinda crap with him in Lightning Returns that I still call BS on.
Man...The song continues right after noel screams just makes me gag.
Starting at 16:22, anyone else notice that the clock tolls 13 times?
Wow it's true!!!
Every time I watch this ending I end up crying. I don't know why I keep watching it D:
How can you cry about a video game ?
+Nathan Pringle Me too. This is one of the most depressing games I've ever played.
+Nathan Pringle I was thinking the exact same thing. I KNEW what was coming and gave myself a little pep talk "Okay. You know what happens....don't cry....You don't need to cry."
Yeah....That didn't last long. I'm still wiping tears from my face. Damnit Caius!
don't worry you're not alone😂
Trust me my hubby was laughing cuz took me 2 hours after he got to the ending to stop crying . Ppl just feel more I guess .
He already has so much Phoenix Down in his hair that it wouldn't have any effect.
Caius better be ready for the biggest asswhooping of his life in the next game. Lightning is gonna destroy him.
Jennifer Li lol and yes
No she wont do that..
16:24 the bell rang 13 times
So either their new arc is freaking tiny, or that planet is fucking absolutely huge
+Tico2858 there's not that many people. Cocoon had a population of barely 20mil. people.And pulse is large
That moment when you know that sh** is going down...
I actually love the ending. It's refreshing to see a game not ending happily. We all know things will be fixed with Lightning Returns, but still..
I also liked very much that the ending is a cliffhanger. Need more of those even in videogames. Makes things more interesting.
simple really. Etro is a Fal'Cie. Etro is the one who intervened and made Vanille and Fang crystal once vanille ran away, and I strongly suspect that the reason snow is a L'Cie again is because he asked Etro for help to save his wife. It is the kind of thing Etro would do. Lightning completed her focus as a L'ie to Etro so Lightning turned to crystal until the time when she is called upon again.
If the mythos is cement, it is probably Bhunivelze who awakens Lighnting in Lightning Returns
I also loved the ending very daring and different, it has a whole "empire strikes back" cliffhanger feel, Thanks for posting this Omega
Correct. His name is Liam O'Brien. He's done voice work for numerous games/anime.
10:30 This is such a pretty song, but this scene makes me cry. Such a happy song to such a tragic ending all the way around... taking both Serah AND Mog into consideration for meohmy5.
Keep up these great videos.
The interesting thing is, regardless of whether or not you choose to kill Caius, what Noel does remains the same: he spares Caius. And then Caius deliberately impales himself on Noel's blade. It's interesting because it feels like Noel has even surpassed the player.
I just noticed. The glow in Caius' eye is the same as the Heart of Chaos. Does he have another manifestation of a god in his body? That would explain why he still lives.
watching the cutscenes is like watching Final Fantasy Advent Children :D
the last 13 days!!!! lightning returns!!!!!!
no matter how many times i see this it still makes me cry. it was so unfair somehow
Caius's heart was etros. she gave it to him after she saw how dedicated caius was to yeul.
Personally I found it fitting, not during the death, but after, where it abruptly stops and is dead silent while chaos happens. Makes it a total holy crap moment.
12:47 - 13:35 is equals to the moment when Tidus says good bye to Yuna, Yuna runs straight through him and they "hug" and he jumps off.
I remember when I beat this game, I mourned for over a week about Serah’s death. My brother said I was being ridiculous, but this is the game that made me fall in love with video games. Although everything is righted in the end, it doesn’t change how devastated I was! And then Lightning being in crystal gave me chills…needless to say, I preordered Lightning Returns
I hope you’re excited for FFXVI and we get a trilogy for Clive Rosfield and also play as his young brother Joshua!
Your name. No way.
Okay~ Get it,thanks for the details!
this had me sitting here, fucking CRYING all over again
When the screen faded to black and the final bell tolled followed by the words, "To be continued..."
Whoa this is probably the most complex ending. I'm currently playing this and it's sad that serah has to die. I think Noel liked serah.
***** Noel still has [his] Yeul, Sarah still has Snow. [Offtopic: Always hated the way they spelled Yeul. Ugh.]
He wanted to protect her, he cared for her as a friend. They both have their own love life, but they cared for each other, they grew close because of how long they had been together, partners, trying to save the world together.
There's some good moment 😂
And lead to love
You change the future you change the relationship
I always thought Serah had more chemistry with Noel than she had with Snow
@@lilaheart4224 same but at the same time, i kind of got a more Yeulish feeling with Sarah, more like he had a duty to protect Sarah, much like in his timeline he was meant to protect Yeul
It's a rarity to see such a dark ending.. And though I welcome it, it's still a royal kick in the face :< It could've taken a turn for the worse some other way, but nooooo!
@MonoChromium One of the Paradox Endings explains it. It's the ending where Noel kills Caius, but he ends up absorbing the Heart of Chaos instead of destroying it.
I cryed 2 hours on this ending when hubby played so much emotional
Caius is the best mastermind in FF nuff said.
I just noticed that in the secret ending Caius sits almost as exactly as Ifrit in FFXV
nope, i'm saying that chaos creates itself from other manifestations of chaos which are mere shadows of its presence, when these other chaoses die, their existence and consciousness feed one true chaos, who then sends fragments of his own power across time and space to eventually become these exact same manifestations, who then send their power back to create the true chaos in a logic loop.
kind of like a time paradox, but on a multiuniversal scale.
Only a guardian can stab him. That is why he tried to get Lightning to do it in the opening. Also, that is why he needed Noel to do it. Only a guardian can do it. Caius and Noel were the last 2 guardians on Earth to protect Etro.
Ahhh, Valhalla. What an amazing sight to behold. (17:13)
Whenever I have a chance to get a glance at the city and Etro's Shrine/Temple(especially Etro's Temple), I felt amazement at the beauty of the Unseem Realm's City and anger that I can't explore it and the city a little.
Does anyone else thinks that Valhalla, along with Etro's Temple, is one of the top 5 most unique(to you) and greatly design place/city/structure with a interesting(to you) backstory behind said place?
Really... what was Caius trying to do in that secret ending?
He actually broke the fourth wall - he's mocking the player.
Thanks =D
Too be able to do/create things like for so long is miraculous, completely miraculous
anywho, the idea is that all beings linked to chaos in any fashion, including the fabula chaos have this link.
but again, it's just me coming up with random stuff, the thought had occurred to me and was nagging so much that i decided to see what you guys thought of it.
honestly, it sounds like one of the most epic mindfucks ever.
so do they end the story here or is there going to be part 3??? whatcha think??
my jaw dropped this was so unexpected then it said To Be Continued.. i was like oh yes im ready
@ldc62 There's nothing that says we won't get a sequel and everything that says we will. The DLC they plan to add for Lightning and Sazh(with nothing else confirmed thus far) will just explain how they ended up where they are. With Lightning essentially becoming the Goddess, Snow wandering around as a L'Cie, Noel's status as guardian(not to mention existence), and whether or not Serah will reincarnate as Yuel does as a recipient of the Goddess' blessings, there are too many questions to answer.
@AzureDarkGod Yep, I have to say the voice casting was pretty well done in this game. Caius's English voice is really similar to his Japanese voice actor.
Not gonna lie, i miss when games had dark or bad endings- it's uncommon
Idk if that's why i love this game so much
Sometimes, things go very wrong~ i know that games have good endings to have that sense of acchievement, but i would love to see more game with tragic endings
Makes you wonder what kind of technology would be needed to make a gaint floating orb like that.
Snow's gonna be pissed.
Someday it will happen to me I am dead my sister will cry a lot if I was murdered she won’t move on without me
MOG PLEASE WALE UP! You have to wake up! Come on Mog don't do this!
I know right?
@TheMustik92 what do you mean "she found Mog"... watch the opening scene of FF13-2... ( not the opening part where you wait to activate the opening scene, at the start of game)
I cry like a baby only for mogu 😭😭😭😭💔💔
:'V
Like the 13 hours you get to save the world in Lightning Returns.
hooray! all those long hours trying to save the world and when you finally win, you lose lol
how many of you were like me that you watched the ending before even playing the game once and didn't care about this ending but when you played the game you ended up crying your asses off i've passed this game about 10 times and i gets me everytime.... i loved serah and the fact that she died had me pissed off so i hope she at least makes a spiritual appearance or something in lightning returns
I love these part 2s' of games :)
So he said the Goddess is dead, but he still looks like he has the powers he had before. His eyes glowed liked Noctis's. Noctis's eyes are supposed to glow because of the goddess Etro's gift. The lore is connected. So how does he still have his powers of the Goddess?
The Heart of Chaos holds the lifeforce of Etro. That's why the one with the heart is immortal for they hold the power of a goddess. And there is no new Yeul. Etro is the reason she was immortal as well. So, in destroying the Heart of Chaos, he killed the goddess which released Yeul and Caius of her powers and their cursed cycle.
I just have a feeling that caius ans yeul will somehow be the "new deity"
so i have one question. they said they wanted to make a game where light ends up happy. but this ending doesnt seem to happy for light....im confused.
Is it just me or the background song is so nice!! And the singer of it is from where I live.. PHiLiPPiNES
im also from the philippines me and my brother are strong
its pretty inapproapiate for the ending though
@Verkili Wow. Didnt think of it that way. That could be a possibility.
Caius:No man,or woman cannoq bring her back now
Chuck Norris:U sad something?
is that lighting or serah sittting at the throne at the end?
That one minute of Caius being [Ca]pta[i]n Obvio[us] (HEY, YOU CAN EVEN SPELL IT WITH HIS NAME) and then asking Yuel on a date was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo worth the fucktons of hours spent getting the secret ending. Totally.
i have the sneaking suspicion that caius isn't going to be the focus of the game, they're probably just going to clean up his mess without getting on his bad side again. (We all saw how fucking with caius ballad turns out.)
"To be continued..." There will be a sequel ? A Final Fantasy XIII 3 ? *-*
This might be a paradox right...? I doubt it though since they were the only ones besides Caius, Yeul and Lightning that can travel through time.
How did sazh and dajh make it to 500af?
Does that mean I can finally defeat Caius without him reviving again and again? I did that paradox ending with serah and when he popped back up with half his health after the first KO I almost tore out my hair.
I don't think Caius is still alive. It's probably just his spirit like when you see Serah in Lightning's Requium (spell check) but then again everyone kept saying that life and death lose all meaning in Valhalla so maybe he never really died in the first place. I dunno
Changing the future may have had consequences, but I couldn't handle seeing Serah die and turning Lighting to crystal. ;__; Damn you, Caius!
Ah...I gotcha now...
Oh I can't help but lol at the way Serah collapses. But it makes me cry DX
Oh, I HATED it at first but yes, it was refreshing to see a game, especially a Final Fantasy games, not end happily. I have a feeling it may be the same for the next one.
So, what's up with Lightning being all crystal?
@MonoChromium
Maybe the Heart of Chaos prevents suicide. He NEEDS someone else to kill him. Probably a Cannot Self-Terminate type of thing.
Freaking Caius, you troll.
@TheMustik92 oh The Mog's side quest? No i didnt play Mog's sidequest because i'm focusing first in the story before sidequest :)
God I remember being so pissed at this ending
Have heroes kill you:
Win the fucking game
Is the guy who voices Caius the same as the guy who voiced Kain in Final Fantasy IV DS? They sound reeeally similar.
O thought when i do not save aerith i learn with this... I tried to finish Caius when he attack Sarah ... I thought she was safe i failed again
Serah dying sort of reminds me of Aerith's death...not the circumstances...just the suddenness and how much it seems to impact the audience...it's pretty tough not to choke up a bit the first time you see this...
Can I just say the ending song is growing on me :3
This ending was predetermined but it wasjust mind blowing. The entire time they said that Serah's life was in danger, then she dies. Caius has Etro's heart, Etro = Goddess = Kill = Gran Pulse turns into Valhalla.
What's mysterious is Lightning turning into Crystal/Stone on Etro's throne. Whether or not that was Caius's doing or Etro's. Or that if Lightning became Etro (that's why she's a stone/crystal).
FFXIII COME AT ME!
did they use big ben audio ?
How u get secret ending
@ffandcinema Probably because he knew the heart of chaos wouldn't get destroyed and instead consume Noel just like it did Caius so he needed to know he had the strength to overcome it?
When I saw the new cocoon go up in to the sky I screamed my ass off... I saw a little bit more sarah died I cried... everyrhing went to darkness and saw lightning in crystal.. I stared in awe =0 now I'm thinking... Final Fantasy XIII-3? That would definitley a first.
Any idea why caius said "the goddess shall die once again" kupo?
@tokyo200
Give me the link to that news that they are not making another one. Square enix did register the domain name of Final Fantasy 13-3. The last time they registered a domain name.......it was under Final Fantasy 13-2. We see how THAT turned out. Lol
What kind of scream was that Noel?
Final Fantasy XIII-2-3 what a title
Wait what?...can someone tell me what happen to Lightning?
I love final fantasy and this one really got me into the history way more than the others dunno why and it really really made me sad see that ending it was like "awww everything is..." "WHATA FUCK!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS SERAH DIED?!" *waits a few more seconds* "NOW THE WORLD GONE TO SHIT?! CMOOON!!!" :(
Despite the grim ending, I think that Caius and Yeul would make a much happier world than what was.
@ReturnofFable What do you mean?