Nolan's Twisted Time...and Tenet
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Were you confused after Tenet?
Well, that's Nolan. But let's still take a look.
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Collider's take on Nolan's 'Following':
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0:00 Introduction
1:11 1. Premise
2:53 2. Structure
3:04 A. Non-linear
4:03 B. Cross-cuts
4:44 C. Frame Narrative
5:47 3. Recurrence
6:45 4. Protagonist
8:36 The Chesspiece
9:40 The Balance
10:38 5. Tenet
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What's your favorite Nolan film?
Probably Inception. It's not his best film and it's got it's glaring flaws but I basically love everything about it.
Dark Knight, but that was more on the actors and editors than Nolan himself. Him forcing Bale to use that dumb voice ruined so much of the coolness of the character
Memento. Holy shit. The idea that you can tell a whole movie(instead of some parts of it) in a non-linear way and still get away with it... I love that movie. Gotta give it a rewatch soon
@@neonwallacewells7818 as An experience INCEPTION ...as a film TDK....but TENET is something special i feel
The prestige ❤
Your video essays are criminally underappreciated, you might be one of the best doing this on youtube right now
Discovered him todey. I agree, he is surely one of the best video essayists on the Toob!
The influence of Thomas Flight is apparent.
The one thing I know for sure about the Protagonist is he ordered his hot sauce an hour ago.
Legend says he still waiting for the hot sauce...
@@pororriken He finally received it next week
It's a James Bond homage. No one cares about Bond's interior life (something the recent films have forgotten to their disadvantage). So it's part of the genre is that we don't need to know the Protagonist's backstory. I thought it was enormous amounts of fun and isn't that what really matters?
Yeah! This is the same thing i,ve been telling everyone, you won't have an emotional connect with an international spy no one cares/should care about his feelings.
It does very well what it should thrill and excite us.
Yup. Totally agree. I enjoyed every minute of that movie. Not once I wanted to see the Protagonist's dead wife or dying mother, or estranged children from a previous marriage. Still a cool video essay.
Im one of those annoying dudes who complains about a nolan movie and doesnt enjoy them that much, and i still watched the whole video with curiosity. Thats how much youre good
Glad this showed up in my recommended, forgot to subscribe when I last binged your videos. Amazing as always
Why thank you !
Incredible perspective on tenet. Felt the same way. Nolan refusing to even give him a name in the script makes it seem very intentional
The thing is Tenet is a spy movie, he works with the genre tropes, making it more of a bond movie than like his other films, I also don’t think The Protagonist is the real protagonist of the movie, ironically Neil/Max ends up being the one you learn a lot about it you spend the time to piece together his storyline, and I felt much more invested in him and Kat, the movie has a different goal in mind, definitely not my favorite Nolan movie either, but people I think are missing the point that it’s supposed to be different, whether or not you like that is fine
Well said
Yeah I felt the same way in that "The Protagonist" character name is actually there to confuse us. The real protagonist is not clear here and that forces us to make our own decision on who to relate to and what lense to view the movie through. It kind of felt like a pick your own narrative film. I watched a few times and noticed that you really get invested in different characters each time.
It's not only that. Many times, in Nolan films we don't get to see the protagonist's life in detail, and that is fine. He shows more than people notices, and with care and attention, you can spot them. In regards to the assertion that this is supposed to be a spy film wrapped in Nolan is also fine. It's that the protagonist is not even there. He is absolutely amorphous and has no continuity or consistency in his actions, motivations or even his character. Take the plot to save Kat for example. Suddenly, with the fate of the world ticking away, this man feels the need to save a woman who he barely knows. This is a man who was willing to bite down into a cyanide pill in the beginning of the movie, a man focused on the completion of the mission. That is how he is introduced. Yet somehow, he wants to endanger his life for Kat at this point, when they have the artifact and have no reason to undergo this risk. If in service of the plot and the movie, it works, but it just obliterates the protagonist. And in fact, things like this destroyed the movie for me, because I felt like no one really felt serious about this central problem they were all trying to collectively deal with. The threat of the world ending did not feel genuine. Kat later goes 'fuck it' and kills Sator prematurely. No one cares about anything in this movie, or remotely shows that they feel the stakes at hand.
Loved reading your thoughts about the film. It gave us a more in depth look on how impactful this movie is. :)
There are some genuinely fascinating video essays on the true nature of the Protagonist's intentions and decision making in TENET that will give you an entirely new perspective was to "why" he did what he did throughout the film, i.e. saving Kat. For example, the theory that the Protagonist is in a never-ending time loop and his decisions are pre-determined. Or the fact the he likely recruited Sator from the beginning. Or the fact that Neil is very possibly Kat's son, which then adds an extra layer of understanding to certain decisions made throughout the film. It is also worth noting that the very fact that the Protagonist was willing to bite down on a cyanide pill rather than give up his friends and colleagues is selfless. He morns when he wakes up and is told that none of the others made it. At the end of the Opera House Siege, he even made the deliberate decision to throw the bomb into an area without civilians. This very essence of selflessness- a core aspect of his character- leads him to put his life in danger in order to save Kat, a person whom he brought into his mission and consequentially would have been at least partially responsible for her death had she died. Which can also explain why him and Neil went back to the Freeport to save her life before (of after?) having decided that she could be useful in the final stage of the mission. That very selflessness coincides with his character. I would strongly suggest looking further into these video essays and topics instead of assuming you already perfectly understand the Protagonist's character and all of his motives. You will come to find that the character is deeper than you think. After watching the film many times and watching various video essays on the film, I have certainly come to appreciate the character more and more.
@@Caped___Crusader he didn’t respond so you’re probably right. I agree with you on the protagonist, his motives made sense to me and it clicked in my head that Neil knew what was going to happen because it already has. Him saving his mother was destined to happen and he knew it would, the protagonists selflessness is extremely apparent at the start of the movie.
@@QuestionQuestionMark I totally agree. Glad you were able to understand his character as well, mate.
I AGREE SO MUCH. I GOT SO MAD WHEN HE WAS FIXATED ON SAVING HER. like bro?? No?? Why does she matter all of a sudden
I liked Tenet, surprisingly
I haven't seen many of Nolan's films myself but i did enjoy this one
ur gonna blow up bro, with this quality it's inevitable
I’m so glad I found you, your editing is immaculate and your commentary is awesome. Thank you! Definitely excited that I found you when I did and I look forward to watching your channel continue to grow.
This channel is so underrated. all these videos are top tier quality! keep up the amazing work!
We know he would give his own life to protect his friends. We know he has strong morals( protecting kat) and we know his main purpose in life is to save the world. Seems like a much better human than cobb, who acted selfishly and risked the lives of his friends. I had no problem with the lack of character development. We've become too used to one way of telling a story.
Excellent video! Im a big Nolan fan and I too was a bit "confused" with what I thought about Tenet, this surely helped me to figure it out better! You got yourself a new sub sir! Very good content, keep it up
We never met the Protagonist...we met his precursor. Neil illuminated the emotional depth of the character with the Bromance so artfully revealed at the end. "We get up to some stuff...you're gonna love it."
Amazing video! I personally loved tenet, it blew my mind and I even watched it again after a few weeks. There is one detail in particular that is right in your face at the second viewing (spoiler: it’s something with the first backwards guy we see in the opera
Seriously you need more love! I've been hooked since the first one I saw!
Ur literally the best film analysis channel on CZcams I can't find anyone else that I like. Are there any tv series you like?
Got lost in what I was doing watching this. Nice stuff, fella’!
I find it incredibly odd people are complaining about Tenet's sound mix. I personally didn't even know it was a problem until I saw people talking about it online
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Just found your channel. Awesome. Thanks for your work.
See, his every film has pushed our expectations from him above n above, nd now if his 1 movie is not as great as his portfolio, that means We resonate with him❤️, this is because we Expect from him. And this is the biggest proof that he is the Director with whom we all r standing 🔥.
great video as always!! thank you
Excellent work.
Denitely great. Love Nolan and your work.
this channel is so underrated
Personally I don't take much issue with downplaying the Protagonist's backstory or anything, because the film's focus and heart isn't revolving around any specific arc. The entire movie is a "temporal pincer maneuver" and we see that most prominently between the Protagonist and Neil. There's a great video about Tenet and exploring its themes by Ben From Canada, I highly recommend it
And i can bet....he will make more n more outstanding - Epic movies &
His BEST is yet to Come🔥✌🏻
love your videos !!!!
thank u for going after the real shit. im a new fan, but an old film student. love ur consistent voice and ur radiant cinephilia. ill hang around. ur understanding of horror speaks to my heart, it can only come from unfiltered Real Life Exp and a need to process. ur as important as any auteur. stick with us, like mary ann has since 98 or so. grow. collaborate. go deep. go for the coca cola kid, santa sangre, de ofrivilliga and mind game.
How does knowing the Protagonist's back story help move the story forward in any way? It's a spy/action film not a drama or romance.
incredible video. subbed.
The relationship of Joi and Kade also expresses that once humanity is mostly subtracted from actual humans, it will live on in their works. Joi and Kade are both works of high technology and art, as evidenced by their complexity. They are mysteries to themselves and even somewhat to each other, but they both know what the other needs and move to fill that void. A trait that is symbiotic, and remembers life. Even if the humans who made these two did not feel loved, they knew what it should feel like and they put that in their creations.
The movie says there is hope, as long there are others that feel the way we feel. And when we shave away those parts of ourselves that make us unsuitable, as Kade's chief has done, we also remove what makes us open to each other. and the message, in the end, is that there is peace in self acceptance. But maybe not victory.
Tenet would work perfectly as a middle film in a trilogy and if the first and third movies in that trilogy followed the ideas of the protagonists character that are hinted at in Tenet I think that It would restrike that balance that is missing.
Some people have guessed that it might be the first in a two movie series or in a trilogy...
I've never felt so angry at a movie as I felt with Tenet. I was on the verge of leaving the theater for the last 40 minutes, precisely because of the imbalance between plot and character you mentioned. I felt no connection whatsoever to any of the people on screen, which made me completely indifferent to the huge action set piece that seemed neverending.
Somehow (even though they were given no character beyond their current situation), the characters in Dunkirk were much more easier for me to relate to and care for, potentially due to the infinitely more realistic premise which helped me get in the characters' shoes and made me feel like I was watching a genuine horror film.
i was so hyped for tenet and went to watch it on the day it came out. To be honest i was really disapointed. I really liked the concept with the time inversion but it got so convoluted with so much stuff it kinda got to much.
I’ll never forget arguing with my girlfriend on the ride home in the Uber after watching this. We aren’t together anymore :^)
I honestly love tenet, hated the sound and editing, but the confusion i had was what made a lasting impression on me
Hold up… I think you just made me a fan of Nolan and I previously haaated his films
IF TIME IS LINEAR, THEN THAT LINE MEETS ITS END 2 FORM A CIRCLE
The soundmix is wonderful, same as in Interstellar.
The rest I can agree on.
As a director, Nolan only likes one film - "REMEMBER" or "Memento"
Wooah i'm impressed at the video
Dude do a video on Tarsem's The Fall
this... this, channel
I adored tenet personally
I really love your channel and share your love for South Korean movies but I just cannot agree with you on Nolan. I used to love his films. His films now are nothing but headaches.
How many easter eggs?
i loved tenet
Tenet was good but doesn’t touch inception
iam a fans of nolan,tenet is good but not great, not like any other films before....or iam just expecting too much...
he used to be great...but i dont know what is missing from tenet...it just okay but not great..🤔
No-lan, NO-lan, say it right!
Golden Dawn.
Wandavision.
He is awful
He is awful