Tangerine Dream - Zeit
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- 0:00:00 - Birth Of Liquid Plejades [19.58]
0:19:58 - Nebulous Dawn [17.57]
0:37:56 - Origin Of Supernatural Probabilities [19.36]
0:57:33 - Zeit [17.01]
1:14:34 - Klangwald, Part One [37.27]
1:52:01 - Klangwald, Part Two [40.41]
1972
Dierks Studio (Cologne)
Edgar Froese, Chris Franke, Peter Baumann, Florian Fricke, Steve Schroyder, Christian Vallbracht, Jochen von Grumbcow, Hans Joachim Brüne, Johannes Lücke - Hudba
Klangwald concert is the real gem here!
The opening track to this album "Birth Of Liquid Plejades" blows my mind every time I listen to it.... It's been a while since I listened to this album all the way through so I'm about to take a long journey with Tangerine Dream... LOL....
It's been almost a year since Edgar changed his cosmic address. In Memory of Edgar Froese & Florian Fricke
If you are listening to this song right now, your brain is functioning well and you have great taste in music. Congratulations! Kisses from Italy.
thank you! (from Ottawa!)
many thanks! from usa (glad i am not alone)
Probably TD's best and most misunderstood album. Sober or on drugs this will always stand the test of time for me as the first dark ambient album. And depending on how receptive you are, you'll hear something new every time. No matter how small the detail.
True that!
Are there any other TD fans who, when they very first heard this, had a bit of trouble getting into it, but now have it as one of their top five TD albums?
When I first heard this album as a teenager I had never heard anything like it and I was genuinely scared of it. I thought "come on, you can do it!", and kept listening. By the end of I was in love with it for life.
Honestly, it is like listening of contemporary classic music, like Igor Strawinski or Krzysztof Penderecki, and yes... Karlheinz Stockhausen.
Exactly this.
I wouldn't call it one of my top five, but I definitely appreciate now more than I did as a teen in the '80s. My best friend described it as "one note over four sides."
Just want more of this
love the old work , while I'm painting and drawing I listen. great
Froese-Franke-Baumann at their apex. This album, despite it's technological limitations, has stood the test of time, and helped defined the Dark Ambient genre, some decades before it even truly existed in name.
Phil Anderson
yes, your the first person beside myself thinking that to write dark ambient and Zeit, that I've come across at least. Most Excellent
i first heard a section of this album on AMC's The Terror (season 1, episode one or two, not exactly sure..) but it is used to Great effect when the expedition comes across a barren wasteland, (the section starting at 9:30 or so is played) and the first thing I thought of is how damn similar it is to another band, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, that has dark ambient vibes.. I had never heard of Tangerine Dream before hearing that snippet on the show, and I was amazed at how similar the sound was to Godspeed... only later do I realize that Tangerine Dream predated Godspeed You! Black Emperor by a generation. (I have read at least one post online that compares GY!BE to Tangerine Dream's sound, given the possible/probable inspiration)
A timeless masterpiece by TD. Cosmic and haunting.
Klangwald concert adds to the magic.
Origin of supernatural probabilities really helped me with cosmology, and is an amazing tool for quickly entering a meditative state.
It also helped with over 30 year old cosmological theories only now being talked about.
Perhaps a coincidence.
But, listening to this album while falling asleep, at least 50 times, before hearing it for the first time awake was bizarre, lol
Here we r in the middle of year 2020. One word subtlety sums it up WOW. Thank God for this masterpiece to guide me through such wonderful sublime time.
So, between 1990 and 200? I listened to this album at least a 4k+ times. Better than alcohol, drugs whatever to fall asleep. Still one of my favourites. Dark pleasures.
indeed
so true !
OMG well, it's between SAW II and this
doctorx0079 SAW II is my fav
The following albums never leave stereo's side; Zeit & Phaedra by TD, Structures from Silence by Steve Roach, Stalker by Lustmord & Robert Rich, Filosofem by Burzum, Air by Charles Manson, and Apollo by Brian Eno. Please check these albums out if haven't yet! Heil Odinn, Sael!!!
Harold Budd too. Abandoned Cities - chekkiott out
Brilliant.
Beyond that, I am speechless.
MASTERPIECE!! "Expanded" version TOP!!
My favorite from TD...could have easily been Kubrick's 2001 space odyssey soundtrack.
....Afirmative.
My second fave...to tg live..but this additional cd is making zeit doubly mind blowing..
Particularly when Dave leaves Discovery to check the monolith (Beyond Infinity)...
They were certainly influenced on this album by György Ligeti, whose music was featured extensively in Space Odyssey
No way!! Never!
There is no music here.
I believe I read that this was the last time Florian Fricke played The Big Moog before selling it to Klaus Schulze.
I sit back in my spaceship gazing at all wondrous sites before my jaded eyes. The stars are endless along other unexplained phenomena that do not have a name. My mind has accepted this soundtrack as I slowly glide along the infinite highway of my imagination. Words can not describe this feeling of floating among the far reaches of the unknown. I allow my faith to carry me through this wonderful playground of my mind. Colors and shapes have no meaning as I continue my journey into the unknown with this trip among the stars. Time has no meaning as I enjoy the now with no past or future inside this chamber of endless love. I smile as I assume that the end has no end only a beginning.
well said
...Great Art by Tangerine Dream (as ever) in very Special Evolution.
Tangerine Dream's "Zeit", Proust "Remembrance of Time Lost' and Brel's "Passing Time" for me are the most evocative works looking back along a life's time line with all the joys and regrets there with the pathos of a breaking heart while still looking forward into the abyss of time yet to come worrisome and hopeful as each future second arrives and as quickly becomes the past, for each persons finite number of breaths.
A profound blessing to find artistic ways to embrace finitude while being capable of imagining infinity~
I heard this album for the first time in the mid 70s. I loved Phaedra and Ricochet but I just did not 'get' this album. Not enough rhythm, lack of a hummable tune. I was 15. In the mid 90s I bought the album on CD after hearing an excerpt on a compilation. This time around I realised why that friend of mine back in the 70s raved about it so much and regarded me as an imbecile with no taste. He was right. Mea culpa. This is an important album that anybody who loves music should hear and should share. It really made me confront those questions: What is music? What the hell is music for? And why do we like music? Maybe your mum won't like it, and I wouldn't recommend it on a first date, but it is truly ground-breaking stuff. Many thanks to Richard John for sharing this expanded version. This is the one to hear.
+Richard Ellis There is music that I listened to when I was 15 that I still like, and some that I grew out of. And there were things that I just wasn't ready for at the time. This is one of those albums that needs time to appreciate I think :-)
Richard Ellis I know Zeit will not be for everyone. I bought this album in 1994 (the reissue on Relativity) when I was 22. I already owned Stratosfear and Phaedra, so hearing this was a huge shock, not realizing it wouldn't be like those albums. This album really changed my idea what music was all about. I didn't feel good music always needed to have pop hooks and traditional melody, form and structure so as long as what they do is interesting. What these guys did here was more concentrate on a certain mood and atmosphere, one that's eerie and forbidding and succeeded big time here, instead of recording a 3 minute pop song guaranteed to top the charts. Of course it was subtitled "Largo in Four Movements" so you're not getting much in the way of tempo change so that in itself had turned off a few listeners. But for me it was a mood they created here that I found particularly appealing. I admit had I heard this when I was younger, say 14 years old, I would have likely never "got it". My father never owned it as I seriously doubt he would "get it".
used to great effect (the excerpt from roughly 9:30 to 10:30 in season 1, ep. 2 of The Terror, in a very eerie and desolate scene on the edge of the earth...)
The equation is Zeit +hashish +day dreaming sleep or meditation =deliverance
Yes you are very right, with the time your musical taste evolves. When you are young you need a well defined melody that you can remember and reproduce in your mind. With the time you don't need that anymore, and you can enjoy musical landscapes that simply carry you to another state of mind. Some pieces of Tangerine Dream like this one are absolut masterworks comparable to Arvo Part, Penderezcky, Stravinsky, or even Schönberg, Shostakovich... there has to be some advantage about getting older.
Has kind of an eerie sci-fi style with a little horror undertones
Le plus grand album de Tangerine dream
I've finally managed to get this on vinyl at a good price, especially as it's the clear & blue version released this year! I listened to this many moons ago from my sisters collection whilst drawing or painting and have it on cd. The vinyl sounds really good and my concerns of it being full of surface noise, crackles and pops were premature. Yes it's not CD quiet, but the sound is just fab.
The experience of listening to this is similar to watching a picture of Dalí.
Brilliant, I love Tangerine Dream recordings from the seventies and those analog syhths. They were in a league of their own. Didn't know the live CD, thank you for posting this.
this is the true ambient music
I have some great news ! The newly remastered 2018 Pink Years collection (very different from The Pink years anthology) had been created using the original witness-master tapes and all first 4 albumes are now longer then ever before... including the missing 46
seconds from track Zeit, few more seconds having longer fad out to all
other tracks, 20 seconds longer Atem track and the greatest surprise
came at the NEW SOUND QUALITY, which is really great ! Absolutely
amazing. Listening track 1 from album Zeit you can hear the sharper
sound of the cello chords, high frequency effects on synths, and this
remastered collection worth everything, having these accomplishments
noticed.
I only listen to those albums on vinyl :-)
@@RichardW001 That is correct,... I remember when I was a kid, I bought the double LP, at that time, 40 years ago and Zeit had the 17 min 46 seconds written on the back sleeve... but, finally, the CD version arrived now in its most complete form.
i'm somewhat...something akin to embarrassed...to admit this is the first time i've listened this wonderful creation! 50 years its been around! well...thank you! love it!...i had no exposure; i would have been 15 at the time; no-one i knew listened electronic; even now, the only people i know who listen to this soundscape stuff are all you fellow cybernauts!
oh my gosh..how much more ' expanded ' do we need to get ?
All time classic album
deep dark and melancholic, you are the last one left .feelings of, absolute isolation and loneliness and last of all sadness, this mix is different to the original release
I bought this double CD in 1988 and the only thing that still remains is the cd case.. the disks have "disappeared" somehow. But the case was just enough to know that zeit(time) was longer then the full album by a whole cd. I am remembering the times I listened to this - as I hear it now. #tangerinedream
used to great effect (the excerpt from roughly 9:30 to 10:30 in season 1, ep. 2 of The Terror, in a very eerie and desolate scene on the edge of the earth...)
You are the boosss ! ...with "Expanded" thanks for you
"Zeit" opens the gate to your mind...
It relaxes me
Their ultimate masterpiece.
Rest in Peace Dear Edgar 6.6.44 - 20.1.2015
Zomba Music Publishers Limited had released 5 CD series, marked with numbers CTang 1 to 5, back in 1996. They all had the same front geometrical lines cover but with different colors. Zeit album had it in blue. Despite the sleeve notes and the CD contained the following song timings 20:00, 18:00, 20:12, 17:43, the real timings of Track 4 (Zeit) measured in any CD Player had only 16:58 but the music starts with some extra 45 seconds of previously unheard music on all the other releases. If one may carefully mix-add these seconds to the beginning of the Zeit track from the any after-1996 releases, that would get about 17:30 full track. This also means, at a careful listening of the Zomba release, Track 4 ends earlier then any of the after-1996 releases.
Interesting. Thanks.
I have some great news ! The newly remastered Pink Years collection had been created using the original witness-master tapes and all first 4 albumes are now longer then ever before... including the missing 46 seconds from track Zeit, few more seconds having longer fad out to all other tracks, 20 seconds longer Atem track and the greatest surprise came at the NEW SOUND QUALITY, which is really great ! Absolutely amazing. Listening track 1 from album Zeit you can hear the sharper sound of the cello chords, high frequency effects on synths, and this remastered collection worth everything, having these accomplishments noticed.
Thanks Richard W for all the TD sharings!!
Interesting how they recreated 'Zeit' live on 'Wald' -the same but different, proving they were not just a 'studio' special effects band - but carried the music around within them..
Beautifully said. Indeed, part of the key to how this came to be.
ZEIT ATEM PHAEDRA RICOCHET RUBYCON OFFICIAL BOOTLEGS SERIES VOL1 : I Tangerine Dream al loro splendore...Corrieri Cosmici in compagnia dei Popol Vuh, Ash Ra Tempel, Cosmic Jokers e Klaus Schulze....senza dimenticare Faust,Neu,Can,Agitation Free,Amon Duul II....Che musica in quei primi anni '70 !! ( naturalmente insieme ai maestri Pink Floyd!)
I'm floating in space, way beyond neptune, in my dream. tangerine dream blew me away.
haha! 'beyond neptune', that's great! that's really out there!
Yep. Even out beyond the Oort Cloud. Perhaps we’ve drifted off plane to intergalactic space. Perhaps the first humanity to sense dark matter and energy.
Tangerine Dream the best band of all time. Great. Tangerine Dream a melhor banda de todos os tempos. Excelente.
Wow, man, just fuckin WOW! This is so far out, ah, this summer 2015 has been the ultimate trip, a Psychonauts dream, and this LP and many others from its live boots just blast me into space when I 'turn on and tune in', this is better than Pink Floyd man, these 'underground sounds' from the 60s like CAN, Hawkwind(Space Ritual), Xhol Caravan, Andromeda, Brainticket and Golem, I thought I knew my shit til I stated digging for fire, I like to discover 'old new shit' that is like 'where have you been all my life?' This one of them.93
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
origin of supernatural probabilities...! YES..!
this has been my favorite song for like a year and a half (the few minutes starting at 9:22)
This album sounds like it could have been used for the soundtrack for the movie The Shining....
Thanks John Diliberto!
My favorite from the Ohr label.... without a doubt....
Love this album ! Also Phaedra & Ricochet !!!!
Yes I'm on youtube again... Don't feel like looking for this cd so thankfully it is up & I'm about to listen to this great album yet again... & of course have my mind blown away again too...
i already have the castle one disc version and trying to decide whether to double dip for this - it's probably worth it
Nebulous Dawn ....... We all know someone like that !
The Earth will never see it's like again....
listen to Godspeed You! Black Emperor.. a lot of their stuff was probably "heavily influenced" by this type of stuff.. especially the stuff round the 10:00 mark..
I'm curious as to what 'influence' your describing here between Zeit and Godspeed You
I experience vastly different compositions across the entire spectrum.
i love it
fixx steven it's Art Baby,1972 and Things would be done that will never happen again.
very close in spirit , to PENDERECKI 's concerto for cello and orchestra ...
19,000 exactly!
A mInha viagem predileta,...
Is there a high energy disco remix of this LP?
If not, Meco should do one...
haint nothing like this anywhither, zanies
Chris, and all others who appreciate TD's ZEIT try Klaus Schulze's IRRLICHT also released 1972 ... FYI Klaus Schulze was original drummer for TD
Gale force winds on Titan. 1:15:00
The first track was very ambient
Birth of Liquid Plejades = Dead Space 2 - Lacrimosa.
Yes, at last one more TD album, without pop/ folk musics. truely electronics and spacial
is Klangwald concert issued as a separate CD, does anyone know?
Only as Disc 2 of this release. There is a Tangerine Tree version (Cologne 1972,) but no official stand alone CD.
www.voices-in-the-net.de/1972-11-25.htm
@@RichardW001 So the “Klangwald” sections are 2 completely different songs not on the original Zeit?
Happy Thanksgiving!.
This is Echoes meets Ummagumma
Anyone experienced this album on dmt here?
Thanks YT AI.
I K.O TANGERINE DREAM
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