Grey Elves of Beleriand | The Lords of Beleriand : Silmarillion Explained - Part 1 of 10
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- Welcome back to the First Age! Let's take a look at Middle-earth's indigenous dark Elves, their High King and his angel wife, and the first battle between the Elves and the Dark Lord Morgoth...
Learn more about the origins of the Elves - • The Awakening of the E... and • The Sundering of the E...
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Part 1 | The Grey Elves of Beleriand - • Grey Elves of Belerian...
Part 2 | The Return of the Noldor - • The Return of the Nold...
Part 3 | The Battle of Glory - • The Battle of Glory | ...
Part 4 | The Elven Realms of Beleriand - • The Elven Realms of Be...
Part 5 | The Origins of the Dwarves - • The Origins of the Dwa...
Part 6 | The Dwarves of Beleriand (and also Ents?) - • The Dwarves of Beleria...
Part 7 | The Many Clans of Men - • The Many Clans of Men ...
Part 8 | The Edain: Elf-friends Among Men - • The Edain: Elf-friends...
Part 9 | The Servants of Shadow - • The Servants of Shadow...
Part 10 | The Ruin of Beleriand - • The Ruin of Beleriand:...
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10 parts, eh? This is gonna be juicy.
I appreciate how much detail you go into on Tolkien's lore. It's a subject that totally deserves it. I get not everyone wants to watch long videos about these subjects but I would rather get all the details and context than watch a video that covers the whole first age in 15 minutes, so thank you. I hope you keep going.
Thanks! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos.
Dave, you’re the best.
If a proper First Age series ever gets produced, I hope you’re involved.
Thank you for this.
Ooooppl😅
😊😅9😅😊o
This is fantastic storytelling! I particularly like your enthusiasm and awe for the caves of Menegroth and of course the Cirdan-centric segment involving some totally justified adulation. I am glad Cirdan is finally getting the respect he deserves! Keep preaching it!
Thanks! Glad to know you're a Cirdan fan!
I love how much u cover the 1st age, best age ever, so dark, so misterious, so badass
I disagree, second ages is all about badassery, first age is about the elves dropping the ball
@@icenine135 you should re-read the Silmarillion then
@@icenine135 wtf lol Have you even read through the events of the First Age?
Easily the best LOTR channel anywhere.
Thanks, Rainbow Dave!!
I've been reading Tolkien avidly since around 1975 and I reckon I know most of his "histories" backwards. Listening to your well crafted summaries is absolutely delightful. Somehow you manage to juxtapose a certain levity with gravitas; perfect for the good professor's writings.
It's true that if you had to pick a character to live the life of, Cirdan is definitely the low key best choice! 💚
A great telling of the tales of Beleriand. The greatest of all the tales of Middle Earth. I am unsure why quite a few Tolkien fans have trouble with the Silmarillion. It is a work much greater than any that came after. Thank you for a great video
I really love your videos. The visuals for the battles and troops movements really makes it clear, where sometimes reading the Silmarillion you're brain and go numb and you just see blah blah blah until you set it down for a while. Excellent work my friend.
Fantastic video Dave. So looking forward to the rest of the series, I too really like Cirdan, he is my favorite of the elves. Can’t wait for more Dave!
An enchantment fell on him and he stood still. I've been there.
Elwe definitely brought the meaning of "dumbstruck" to a new level 🤣🤣 Great video, Dave! Ever since the start of the RoP TV series, I have been diving deeper into the Similarion, and your storytelling has been very enchanting!
So since finishing your first set of videos last year I went off saddened that there was going to be a break, re-read the Silmarillion seeing as you had helpfully demystified it, and discovered the Prancing Pony Podcast which also covered the Silmarillion in depth. I kinda figured I'd nailed it all, but watching this has been a wonderful fresh take that only highlights things I'd overlooked. Great job! Also Rainbow Dave, your enthusiasm for this subject and world is really infectious. Keep 'em coming, I'll be watching.
Thank you. I'm really glad you enjoyed it, and it's so good that you've been re-reading the Silmarillion!
@@tolkienuntangled honestly at this point I reckon I could take an A-Level in Silmarillion 😊
Really underappreciated channel 🤔
Ok, that was an amazing improvement since the last series, well done!!
Yes. Such a relief-visually, especially.
Best channel for tolkien fans!👍
Dave really digs Cirdan. I think he is one of the wisest Elves to have ever been, he just does not get enough ink for me to get a grasp on to who he really is. He is very Viking like. A mariner with a beard, who`s great skill is in the building great ships. The very beat, like the Vikings. And he had the ring of Narya , until he meets Gandalf, and sees the wisdom in Gandalf, and of his power, as he is wise to him being a Maiar. Then he gives Narya to Gandalf. Cool dude, but I wish he was more involved.
So happy this series is back! Thanks for the obvious hard work you put into these.
I simply wish to thank you for sharing your great understanding and deep knowledge of the Silmarillian!!
Honestly I unsubed other Tolkien channels. Yours is that good!
Epic crossover: Cirdan is Väinämöinen. He is the only elf with a beard, and both of them are shipwrights.
... wait, so Thingol decided to forsook Círdan but had time to relieve the surviving Laiquendi? I hope he had good reasons for it.
By the way, Círdan, though we sadly do not hear him ever speak but only hear about his deeds from a distant perspective, is a well-chosen candidate for the elv you would most want to call him your friend. I read (not the direct quote, I have yet to organise myself the History of Middle-Earth series) that his crafty spirit helped the Elves to traverse what would be later called the sea of Rhûn by ship, I'd say that feat gives him some Moses-like qualities.
I am also quite a fan of Thingol despite his flaws and foolish decisions which are not too few in number. When reading the Silmarillion, he was the only character that created a kingly and venerated image in my mind - proud, but for a reason. From all the tragic tales of the Silmarillion, none makes me blanch and stung like his end and the ruin of Doriath.
I -reluctant to go through the whole book but rigourously invested in backstory- am grateful for all your extensive content, covering all the intrinsic details of the book.
Wow dude glad you're back. Was wondering if you would continue with the first age. Looking forward to this.
I really like the world of LOTR, i just don't enjoy reading Tolkien, so thank you for this.
I'm always so happy each time I see a new video on your channel. This looks like a really interesting series.
Much love back at ya!
Very nice RD! May you continue to have good fortune. I know that all your videos are informative and full of great art work. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK MELLON! Rainbow Dave created, Storm Crow approved!
Just discovered this channel. Thanks very much for your hard work. Very enjoyable content.
Actually addicted to these videos an love your presentation! These are some of the best youtube videos about Tolkien's writings there is on the platform. They are extremely detailed an well put forth for newer readers an followers of the universe that is Tolkien's. Please keep making these
I'm so glad I found this channel. I can't stop watching!
That’s so great! I hope you enjoy the videos.
@@tolkienuntangled I have been binging them in the background all day while at work, so I can definitely say I've enjoyed them! 😁 Thank you for making them!
This is so good, I’m loving bingeing these series!
Incredible work! Thank you!
Youre a great story teller. I get home>tablet on coffe maker>tolkien untangled while making dinner. Keep up the good work bro!
Glad u r back :)
Really glad I’ve found this series. Looking forward to jumping into this 😊
Been binging your stuff recently and cant get enough of the lore you keep gifting us
Great video!
This is the only thing keeping me awake at work rn ty 😊
Mr Rainbow sir! I am enthralled by every one of you videos! so Thank you heaps dude!
Brilliant video, ty
I just want to say you and your videos are THE SHIT!! Keep it up these are so good!!
youre so good! better than many lotr lore people!
Really enjoying this
Watched it repeatedly for dayz
Have finished the playlist yet
What a great addition to the pantheon of Tolkien lore channels
What a great time to be a Tolkien fan
My compliments
Thank you very much! I'm glad you're enjoying the channel.
@@tolkienuntangled your welcome
N please keep the material coming
The artwork and thumbnails are well done as well
Extremely good video!! Next to the Noldor, the Falathrim are my favourite race. I wonder why even in Tolkien's works (and especially in secondary sources) they often count as being just a sub-group of the Sindar.
Most people who play D&D and have just seen the movies probably think that Dark Elves are silver-haired, black-skinned Elves who are almost invariably evil and who worship the Spider Goddess, Lolth (the D&D version, sort of, of Ungoliantë). Those of us who have read "The Silmarillion" know them to be generally good Elves, and if they are antagonists in a story, they are more in the line of Fëanor and most of his sons: They are proud and wilful like [spoiler] Eöl, rather than brutish like Orcs or devious like the Drow.
Great series
Great vid
Could you do something on what Dol Guldur was like when the elves of Greenwood lived there and how it was lost?
God bless you and your work sir 😇😇😇💜💜💜 respect for your passionate narration 🤗🤗🤗💜💜💜
Wonderful pronunciation
I’m really enjoying your videos…It would be EPIC if you roll your “r” like Tolkien intended for the elf name pronunciations..if ANYONE can pull it off seemlessly and do it well, I think you are that guy!! *Ni 'lassui En*
I really wish I could pronounce the names exactly like Tolkien intended, but to my lasting shame, I am entirely incapable of rolling my 'r's. I've tried so hard but I just can't do it!
@@tolkienuntangled I totally get it. I’m fortunate to be able to do it BUT I do have Russian as a second language and you HAVE to roll your “r” or you will be mercilessly berated by the professor until you do it correctly! Fear was my greatest motivator….🤣… Cheers!
Daww, no fun fact, sadness 😭 great video nonetheless! This is probably my new favorite CZcams channel lol
outstanding.
Amazing
I feel vindicated to see so many of my childhood “precious’s” (LoTR, X-men etc) achieve such widespread popular attention.
I can say with total satisfaction: “I was into Tolkien before it was cool!”
😏
I’m watching the whole playlist tonight!! Get,n my History lesson in 🧐😁🧙♂️🧝🏻♀️🍺
I agree with all the other comments! Rock on
Hi Dave: I think a vid on the reason why the High Elves in Valinor became so great at crafting weapons in the first place, would address a query I've received from a few of JRRs fans.
They didn't have much use for weapons in Aman but the Noldor, upon re-entering Beleriand were outstanding warriors. I have my own answers, as I've been studying JRRs world for close to 40 years but you have a CZcams channel, I don't, my Buddy! :)
It's because they're Elves dude, their bodies and spirits burn brighter so they engage in it's desires like sports and hunting and f ing 🤣 The Vanyar were known for making very deadly spears and absolutely obliterated everything in War of Wrath so obviously they been practicing with Uncle Manwë
And also they rejuvenate in Aman, read The Nature Of Middle-Earth, Elves child birth rate decreased every generation since Cuivinen from 6 average to 2 but once they reach Aman it picks up again, they become more vigorous and Hroä/Fëa body/mind is in tune over there, in Middle-Earth their Fëa becomes dominant leading to weariness
Holy moly, you got about 2000 abos in the last 2-3 day. damn O.O
Well done, M8
Rainbow Dave is the bomb 💣 A fantastic analyst…seriously
You're amazing 👏
It's interesting that despite being one of the Valaquendi Thingol insists on acting like the world's biggest Sindar elf, especially with how he treats the other Valaquendi when they return from Valinor.
I swear, you should be a professor at a Tolkien course
Can we have a game in the style of Shadow or War... But set in the First/Second Age? I feel like the Battle of Beleriand or the Fall of Gondolin would be amazing settings.
Great job, really enjoying these! So what about the Nandor? Wouldn’t they be another group? Or do you just consider them Sindar?
Thanks! The Nandor are the group that the Laiquendi (green elves) emerged out of. They're not Sindar, but they can be considered Silvan.
Okay so I am really excited about the new wheel of time series which is an heir to Tolkien and I misspelled a word tuath de danann and that is an ancient Irish mythology where there is a story where they burn their ships to prevent them from returning and it reminded me of one of your videos where to show resolve the ancient elves burn their ships I think...
The new WOT series is crap.
Oh yeah i like what im seeing, longer and longer videos, longer and longer series! And all the little gems you couldn't tell in the last 2 series without breaking the flow of the story. This really is as close to a chronological telling as you can get, well without it being disjointed. Also i forgot to say great art choices and hats off to the artists. Especially the late great man (👑) himself.
Thanks very much!
@@tolkienuntangled Hey Dave do you have any other channels or accounts on other platforms that aren't strictly personal? If so I'd love to add/follow them.
Very nice, Elves is not just Elves.
Are you playing the theme to the humming chorus from Butterfly???
Sublime choice.
Very good 😊, I would request that you don’t use music in the background because it is hard for some people to filter it out while you talk.
That was totally fantastic, you are quite a Bard yourself......
Thanks very much. I'm really glad you enjoyed!
@@tolkienuntangled I will be watching more.....
Melian is to Ungoliant, as Gandolf is to Sauron?... your videos are the best
Man so Gimli should’ve boasted to Legolas “my people built your people’s first nice kingdom!” 😂
I have been binging your playlists.. I discoveered this gem of a channel, less than 48hrs ago.. so please pardon my arrogant presumption when I go -
"waiiiit... where's the fun fact??!"
Yeah, I decided to retire the fun facts at the end. The videos were getting longer and longer, and so were the fun facts; and in the end, each video was looking to be about an hour long. I'm really glad you enjoyed them though!
Are the Sindar elves are wiser when comparing them to the Silvan elves and Avari?
The Sindar of Beleriand are at least ennobled by the Maia powers of Melian, and ruled over by a king who's beheld the light of the Trees; so I'd say yes, they're probably wiser than the Avari and Silvan, who are about as dark as dark elves can get. I guess a good comparison is Celeborn (Sindar) and Haldir (Silvan). One is clearly mightier than the other.
What about Shadar-kai?
Working, sleeping, exercising.. is there ever a time that isn't good to listen to Rainbow Dave expounding upon Tolkien's world? I don't think so!
I think I recall that it is said that it was the elves who first woke the trees and (created?) the ents. Could it be that it was the Laiquendi?
I always had one major problem with this world lit only by starlight. I can sum it up with one word: Photosynthesis.
I wonder if blix from the movie legends the movie was a dark elf not to get off topic lol
Cìrdan is NOT the only elf described as having a beard. Feanor's father-in-law, Mahtan, the most skilled craftsman of Aman was also described as wearing one as well. He was said by some "experts" on Tolkien to be one of the first of the elves to behold the light of the stars in Cuiviénen.
It seems pretty obvious to me that after Beleriand sank, Numenor was brought up in part of where Beleriand had been. I'm curious where in Beleriand would the area that would become Numenor have been? Can't find the info anywhere. FWIW.
20:50 i thought you said later that Frodo's long dead when Sam arrives to the immortal lands ? So which is it ? ^^'
I don’t think there’s any way of truly knowing if they were reunited - it’s possible (Frodo would be very very old), but Tolkien never said anything specific about it.
I finally found it lol the continuation of the story lol a bit of a break you took, like 20 videos break lol
The first age is where it’s at
BLUF: Cut back on the use of "anyway." I think you are doing a great job. I wonder if you are speaking Quenya or Sindarin. There was a time in my youth that I tried to learn Quenya, but at the same time, I was trying to learn Spanish and Tagalog. I slimmed it down to just one language; that of my wife. Kumusta po Kayo? I am really enjoying your videos, as it has been about 30 yrs since I read the books. Turin Turambur has always been my favorite story. Beren and Luthien were a close second, but that story just didn't have the absolute travesty of the tale of Turin. LOTR is my third favorite story. But I stray from the real reason for this comment: You need to cut back on the word "anyway." I have heard it so many times in your videos that it has become a distraction. I am not trying to be critical, but helpful. When I hear the youth of today speak, this is what I hear, "It was like, very amazing, and like, I couldn't, like, believe, like, what I was seeing, like, it was, like, incredible." I am not saying that your narration is comparable to these young people that seem to be incapable of using that word all the time. I seriously respect and like your breakdowns, my fellow Tolkien lover. By the way, I have known about Tolkien's and Edith's gravestones for many years before you mentioned it, but I never saw to tombstones before. I thank you for that. I am going to assume that you write a script before you post a video; now all you have to do is look at every time you say "anyway" and think of any other way to transition to your next subject. You may have noticed that I used the term comparable instead of the word "like." This was an intentional example of how it is done. Just in case you are curious, BLUF is a military acronym that means: Bottom Line Up Front. To be clear, I am only trying to help. Mahal Kita.
My Brother, I apologize for the previous post. I am a functioning alcoholic, and when I have been drinking heavily, I will sometimes post longwinded rambling comments, as I may be doing now. There is a point where it is hard for me to determine. I did not mean to be arrogant, only helpful. I have watched a ton of your videos, and I really love them. I apologize if I came across as an asshole. That was not my intention.
.....and the legends say that in the shipyards of the Grey Havens, known also as Mithlond, in the land of Lindon dwelled Cìrdan the Shipright. Ancient of years and renowned in great deeds. CÍrdan built all the ships to return the Moriquendi and Calaquendi to the undying lands beyond the sea.
He labored without complaint to help those of his kind.
.....we do not know what became of Círdan. He built all of the sacred vessels but no tale tells of a time in which he strode the deck of his own.
Legends say that, in the shipyards of the Grey Havens, known also as Mithlond, in the land of Lindon dwelled Cìrdan.......some voices whisper that he dwells there still.
It wil be interesting if Thingol owned Narsil aside from Aranruth.
Is it me or Menegroth. Looks like the scene in Amazon prime lord of the rings show. I feel like most of season might be of the first age.
I'm just curious and thus, I'll ask - Every now and then, when the story goes around or touches on certain things, you sound like jumpin' up 'n' down in the chair in excitement - you do so? x]
I typically stand when I record to give myself more room for bouncing 🙂
About the children of the Noldor who traveled to Middle Earth, children who were born in Middle Earth: are they considered High Elves? Because they've obviously not experienced the light of Valinor.
And the childrenn of Finarfin
Another clue on the map that something had gone wrong: The Sundering Sea.
A whole bunch of angry noldor descending on Bleriland. The native elves is like wft??
You must avoid using "dark" Elves when metioning the Sindars. They are still part of the Eldars, togethers with the elves in Valinor. Both are Eldars. The "dark" elves are usually referred to Avari, the elves who refused the summon of the Valars and did not make the journey west
Dark elf is just a translation of Moroquendi. It refers to all elves who haven't beheld the light of Valinor, including Sindar and Nandor.
what does the opening say, I can't spell it so search results are non-existent.
I say 'Alatulya meldonyar, ar hara mariessë.' Which is Quenya for something along the lines of 'welcome my friends, and live well in happiness.'
Not to be a bore but the one who broke the girdle of Melian was not more powerful but had a fate stronger than her magic.
Thingol was totally bewitched