He was the bets long distance in the world. Best triathlete is for sure Kristian right now. Current olympic champion, world series and two of the best times in both 70.3 and full. No question about who is best at Triathlon. Triathlon is more than just full distance
@@pal_lokomotivet2679 however, "best" is more than just the fastest. These are races, and Jan very rarely misses. Kristian is either all on, or far off. Other than mechanical or injury, Jan is going to be front pack all day. Kristian has off days.
@@pal_lokomotivet2679 nah, If you see the performance of the guys Kristian raced against you will realize how fast that course was due to conditions. Just look how they performed at other races and you will see Kristian is very good but some of Jans performances (e.g. Kona 19 and even TriBattle) were actually better. The biggest question is - can Jan maintain his level or will he get more and more injouries (like we see now) because of his age and cannot reach his full potential anymore.
@@onepunchbud1472 My main point is that triathlon isnt just ironman. If you look at the overall tri performance. Short and long Kristian is by far the best
@@pal_lokomotivet2679 that's true. Will be interesting to see if he stays on top for many years like Jan. Blu is very strong for sure. Because of him people forget about Gustav. I am still not sure who is the best Norwegian for middle / longdistance. Would not be surprised if Gustav wins St.George. PS: i think Blu is very good, but not the best LD athlete. I think Jan, Patrick and Gustav are better. Some others are close If in shape (Sam Long, Lionel Sanders and Sebastian Kienle) Sadly two of the three are out for St.George.
Wow it’s really hard to pick who will be the winner but I think it will be pretty cool race to watch. Also, great interviews GTN both coaches are super interesting and knowledgeable.Having said that I’m hoping Jan wins because this could be his last Kona and Kristian has more years to come.
Speaking bikes, Kristian seems to be testing a new Giant Trinity, the bike was completely blurred out in his recent training vid. Just picked up a 2020 Trinity and am really liking it, great starter bike and interested for what’s next.
I belive the swim will be very important. If Jan gets out with a gap to Kristian and Gustav with a few strong cyclists then I think he will win. Lionel will also come out behind them so they can work together too. But if Gustav and Kristian gets of the bike with Jan, I belive we will witness the real fall of the king
Jan Frodeno will always have a special place to me (i was born in 1981, for what he achieved), but i think that the new generation is coming up and are pushing the limits in the world of long distance triathlon: Kristian Blummenfelt, Gustav Iden, , Sam Long,.. Even Lionel Sanders (i'm a big fan of) will probably gonna have hard times against them. Jan has the ability to be here when you least expect but close to the end of his career (he'll be 41 for KONA). Big big respect for him👍
@@jfloyo11 Well Kristian and Gustav never race kona and he never beat them in any race. And they are all set to meet in kona this year so maybe Kristian will beat him before he retire
@@gregor350 cool story. They werent even racing each other. Gustav scored max points for his team and had a faster run. Different race dynamics on the bike
Well they are comparing an olmypic gold medalist and 70.3 + ironman world record holder to Jan yes. (Even if cozumel is bullshit Blu is still the man right now)
Jan is the current GOAT, but now I think the question isn't 'Is KB better?' because he hasn't proven that he is yet. But it's, was Jan the first of a new class of triathlete, and is KB now the second?
Gustav will win st george. Blummie is to big i think on the bike to much elevation. Kona is a different Story blu iden frodo and lange are the favorites (in my opinion)
This talk of Blu being to big, is absolutely moronic. he smashed everyone to bits at the olympics, purely out running the skinniest runners of Yee and Hayden. Anyone would looks at blu as being too big is just too stupid to look at the facts of his performances. you cant win a olympic gold by smashing everyone in a 29min 10km in the heat while being too big.
@@jamesd5241 even Jan said that He wont be doing nice 2019 because He is to heavy for the course. Blu also didnt excell on this course. Blu is a really good runner but i was talking about the hills but we will see. Blu is my favorite so im hoping im wrong;)
I don't understand the hype for Kristian Blumenfelt. He did world best on a course WAY to short for a normal ironman distance. I'm surprised anyone even speaks of it. He is olympic distance champion and it's nearly impossible to be a world-class long distance triathlete just several months later. And even if he did it, it brings no good light on his opponents of tokyo. I need more than 2 races to recognise someone as comparable to a Jan Frodeno. Nevertheless, he can and probably will be something like Jan in the future
He is the Olympic champion, world champ, had the two previous 70.3 records and word leading time in full distance. Everyone know by now the swim had a good current but taking this into account this time is still topp 2 all time. He would still crush Jans race record. The only time better would be Jans special event record. The level on the Olympic distance is much much harder. So if anything this says alot about the in the ironman circus. If you dont understand the hype then you dont understand triathlon
Why just those 2 ......why not Patrick Lange, Daniela Ryf, Lionel..... best triathletes are not just men..... middle ages mentality on this channel.....
Who do you think is the best triathlete in the world?
WTS: Kristian 70.3: Gustav IM: Well find out in a few weeks
@@bargen44 but Kona is a few months not weeks?
Lionel Sanders ?? :)
Gordon Ramsey, imagine being so busy owning so many restaurants and famous with tv shows and still having time to knock out some ironmans
Q: Who's really the best triathlete in the world?
A: Jan
He was the bets long distance in the world. Best triathlete is for sure Kristian right now. Current olympic champion, world series and two of the best times in both 70.3 and full. No question about who is best at Triathlon. Triathlon is more than just full distance
@@pal_lokomotivet2679 however, "best" is more than just the fastest. These are races, and Jan very rarely misses. Kristian is either all on, or far off. Other than mechanical or injury, Jan is going to be front pack all day. Kristian has off days.
@@pal_lokomotivet2679 nah, If you see the performance of the guys Kristian raced against you will realize how fast that course was due to conditions.
Just look how they performed at other races and you will see Kristian is very good but some of Jans performances (e.g. Kona 19 and even TriBattle) were actually better.
The biggest question is - can Jan maintain his level or will he get more and more injouries (like we see now) because of his age and cannot reach his full potential anymore.
@@onepunchbud1472 My main point is that triathlon isnt just ironman. If you look at the overall tri performance. Short and long Kristian is by far the best
@@pal_lokomotivet2679 that's true. Will be interesting to see if he stays on top for many years like Jan.
Blu is very strong for sure. Because of him people forget about Gustav. I am still not sure who is the best Norwegian for middle / longdistance. Would not be surprised if Gustav wins St.George.
PS: i think Blu is very good, but not the best LD athlete. I think Jan, Patrick and Gustav are better. Some others are close If in shape (Sam Long, Lionel Sanders and Sebastian Kienle)
Sadly two of the three are out for St.George.
My guess: there will be a surprise winner in St. George, i.e. Joe Sk. or Lionel but not Kristian.
what a great one to watch! and the expression "their feelings!", well...enlightening!
Glad you enjoyed Ricardo :)
Wow it’s really hard to pick who will be the winner but I think it will be pretty cool race to watch. Also, great interviews GTN both coaches are super interesting and knowledgeable.Having said that I’m hoping Jan wins because this could be his last Kona and Kristian has more years to come.
Your best content I Would say in a long while. Well done!
Speaking bikes, Kristian seems to be testing a new Giant Trinity, the bike was completely blurred out in his recent training vid. Just picked up a 2020 Trinity and am really liking it, great starter bike and interested for what’s next.
2 videos in one day!!! Happy Passover/Easter all
Great arguments for both Jan and Kristian. But this is CZcams, so the nod has to go to.... Lionel Sanders?
Jan
"Athletes sensation and feelings are more important than numbers" OAB
I belive the swim will be very important. If Jan gets out with a gap to Kristian and Gustav with a few strong cyclists then I think he will win. Lionel will also come out behind them so they can work together too. But if Gustav and Kristian gets of the bike with Jan, I belive we will witness the real fall of the king
Best EVER triathletes. Their performances are awesome ✌️✌️
Could you do a similar deep dive on female athletes, maybe LCB vs. Daniela Ryf?
Jan Frodeno will always have a special place to me (i was born in 1981, for what he achieved), but i think that the new generation is coming up and are pushing the limits in the world of long distance triathlon: Kristian Blummenfelt, Gustav Iden, , Sam Long,.. Even Lionel Sanders (i'm a big fan of) will probably gonna have hard times against them.
Jan has the ability to be here when you least expect but close to the end of his career (he'll be 41 for KONA).
Big big respect for him👍
Jan has already beat them at Kona, some multiple times. Jan will retire before any of those guys beat him. Kona is a different beast.
@@jfloyo11 Well Kristian and Gustav never race kona and he never beat them in any race. And they are all set to meet in kona this year so maybe Kristian will beat him before he retire
Gustav will win hands down!
yep. not even close i think
@@jamesd5241 Jan was faster than Gustav at the collins cup.
@@gregor350 cool story. They werent even racing each other. Gustav scored max points for his team and had a faster run. Different race dynamics on the bike
@@jamesd5241 Jan took it easy on the bike after almost skidding out on a corner because it was raining
@@robbo3132 nice!
Current, wind, sun, heat... KB broke the world record time in an homologated IM distance and condition. (period)
Are we actually comparing 2 1st year Ironman Triathletes to the Goat????? That's just silly!
I also think you are mixing goat and current best. Jan may still be the best but that is absolutely up for discussion
Well they are comparing an olmypic gold medalist and 70.3 + ironman world record holder to Jan yes. (Even if cozumel is bullshit Blu is still the man right now)
Jan is the current GOAT, but now I think the question isn't 'Is KB better?' because he hasn't proven that he is yet. But it's, was Jan the first of a new class of triathlete, and is KB now the second?
Did not believe that blus ironman is considered a world record? Thought it was a short run???
short downhill swim
Gustav will win st george. Blummie is to big i think on the bike to much elevation. Kona is a different Story blu iden frodo and lange are the favorites (in my opinion)
For a big guy he is quite a fast runner though. I think if he dropped some of the muscle mass he would be a power house on the bike
@@jimjamthebananaman1 being big is a benefit for cycling, if he lost mass he would be worse on the bike. what he needs is a proper aero setup
This talk of Blu being to big, is absolutely moronic. he smashed everyone to bits at the olympics, purely out running the skinniest runners of Yee and Hayden. Anyone would looks at blu as being too big is just too stupid to look at the facts of his performances. you cant win a olympic gold by smashing everyone in a 29min 10km in the heat while being too big.
Everyone said Jan was too tall and big to do long distance and he ended up a phenomenal long distance athlete
@@jamesd5241 even Jan said that He wont be doing nice 2019 because He is to heavy for the course. Blu also didnt excell on this course. Blu is a really good runner but i was talking about the hills but we will see.
Blu is my favorite so im hoping im wrong;)
It's EdmOnton, not EdmUnton. But a great video, thanks!
Joe skipper or Sam Long for st george.
der Jan
I don't understand the hype for Kristian Blumenfelt. He did world best on a course WAY to short for a normal ironman distance. I'm surprised anyone even speaks of it. He is olympic distance champion and it's nearly impossible to be a world-class long distance triathlete just several months later. And even if he did it, it brings no good light on his opponents of tokyo. I need more than 2 races to recognise someone as comparable to a Jan Frodeno. Nevertheless, he can and probably will be something like Jan in the future
He has the Ironman world record so…
He is the Olympic champion, world champ, had the two previous 70.3 records and word leading time in full distance. Everyone know by now the swim had a good current but taking this into account this time is still topp 2 all time. He would still crush Jans race record. The only time better would be Jans special event record. The level on the Olympic distance is much much harder. So if anything this says alot about the in the ironman circus. If you dont understand the hype then you dont understand triathlon
@@matthewlubey9316 czcams.com/video/uGcXifP2Dz8/video.html
This aged well…
Jan would destroy this guy in Kona
Didn't Kristian break the world record with the help of current in swimming session?
Yes but Jan also broke his record with a special course
They are not comparable at all…
Well they'll both (hopefully) be competing against each other this year, which should provide a pretty good comparison 😉
Robert Karas!
Taa by dostał baty w połówce lub pełnym dystansie jakich mało.
Body of work and consistency ... that counts right? or is it just checklist of PBs and times splits?
Come on people, hands down Frodeno.
The end.
Ali Brownlee is up there,Jan has had his time Kris would take the W
Why just those 2 ......why not Patrick Lange, Daniela Ryf, Lionel..... best triathletes are not just men..... middle ages mentality on this channel.....