Roy Keane & Gary Neville on whether sacking Mourinho would fix Man United's problems | Super Sunday
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Roy Keane, Gary Neville, Jamie Carragher and Graeme Souness give their thoughts on Manchester United's terrible start to the 2018/19 season, and whether sacking Jose Mourinho would fix the issues at Old Trafford.
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Let Keane loose in the United changing room with a cricket bat and put it on Sky box office
Floyds high heels as a united fan I would love to see that
Martial would probably run to his agent and blame Mourinho.
Make Keane assistant manager
Take my money
Floyds high heels 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Neville with the savage shut down 0:14
Not surprising he's trying to stay partisan but he's United through and through he's raging.
I was just about to comment that, class of 99 ❤️❤️❤️
@The Saint ST1 rude??? NAA just passionate m8
Yup lol
To be fair, I don't think he wanted to denounce the board as naive, without having the opportunity to clarify and elaborate on the point.
3 years into the future, and jose was right all along
He was always right.
@@therealpvc2541always right being a c***
No he wasn’t
@@MultiMcgurkhe was
@@x83937 no he wasn’t
"is he getting the best out of the current players ?'
He did. He did miracles
Iain Steele aged well
@@jeffersonch really well
"Can u let me finish" *piercing silence as neville exhales" 😂😂 0:14
Neville true alpha.
Left-Wing Gamer IF I TRANSLATE WELL IT WAS SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO ME FOOKIN CLOWN 😂😂😂
I cringed so hard
Only said that coz Roy Keane was next to him coz Roy stuck up for him against vieira otherwise Neville is a pussy
He only said that was because Roy Keane was sitting next to him
Gary Neville is definitely pissed off. He seemed legit angry
Can't blame him can u
It’s a brave boy who acts tough sitting next to Roy Keane 😬
I believe Valencia fans were angry as well
"Can you let me finish?!"😂
Maybe he should manage United next season
Lmfao Neville got so pissed when he got interrupted 😂
He left a pause, thats usually a que to talk..
I was about to say this ... Lol :D
David Conley lmao I know right!
Rightly SO!
Yeah , and thats becuase he is totaly bad as person , and just regular on the pitch
I love the fact the calmest guy in the room is Roy Keane.
Lee Cattermole player manager is the only sensible answer
lmao
matteastwood87
right babe?
I'd give Rory Delap a go as well
*Stoke Legend*
Lol. The real reason for the mess is David Moyes, he left a trail of destruction. Man Utd & Sunderland are still in 'recovery mode' after his management destroyed both clubs.
Mr Perfect Utter Nonsense, Moyes had 8 months, VG 2 years, Mourhino 2years. Moyes signed 2 players Mata and Fellaini, Still there! Blame LVG if anybody!
That's probably one of the best lineup of pundits I've seen
Conor Gregg The best.
All of them but Souness
I actually don't think he's that bad but yea maybe swap him out with shearer or Ian wright
Souness is the best pundit out of them and probably the best manager as well. Admittedly on that score the other two are not much competition.
@@Sportspenguin77 people really forget what Keane did at Sunderland. Yea Ipswich wasn't great but he changed Sunderland and I think the good outweighs the bad on that case
Keano was right. His interview with BBC, he said "the modern players, they are not just weak players, they are very weak human beings. You can't say a word to them." I think it's a reflection of modern society. Look around us.
is the interview on CZcams? big Keane fan from the Netherlands.
1000% true.
Big Keane is a legend
Bang on snowflakes are talking over the world, 100% agree
@HerrNilssonTheMonkey lol, do you even understand what he(keane) meant?? not physically but mentally...these players are not mentally strong enough..back then, even if they went 2-0 down, they still have spirit or believe that they can turn it around somewhat...nowadays, most players just lowered their head and want to end it all...
4 months later.
-LFC and Spurs in the CHL final
-United lost the final match to Cardiff and ended where Jose left them; 6th place.
MetalForTheMasses 😂😂😂
@@francis2728 Don't worry about them said Roy Keane
Caragger predicted all of that
A year later.
United on the cusp of a top 4 finish.
In with a shout of winning two trophies.
Spurs sign Mpurinho; they're currently 9th.
dendenn spurs were there tho with Poch at the start of season tbf
Gary Neville getting passionate about United, the Roy Keane effect
LunaT passion exactly what's missing in the club. 80k a week or even 360k a week. Only passion at united is the wage bill.
Roy Keane would run United into the ground. Great leader , terrible manager.
FBI so who has done better jobs in the clubs he managed?
dagnut Keane is a great leader but he is not a manager. Neville usually plays it safe and beats around the bush when talking about United (Maybe to stay in the club’s good books). Neville is one of the biggest reasons why Jose is still at United when he did that interview after the Newcastle game. He spoke like a true United fan today and I applaud him for that.
@@mohammedismail3929 lol you make it sound as though the decision makers at United take Neville's opinion into consideration when it comes to keeping or sacking mourinho
“Can u let me finish”
Put him right in his place 😂😂😭
He needs to be checked
You can tell how upset and frustrated he is 😅
By far the coldest and most annoyed "let me finish" I've witnessed
Triggered
I think he was annoyed because the presenter was trying to bring the conversation back to the manager again when Neville was trying to highlight the incompetence of the boardroom
Roy Keane treats Gary Neville like a little brother 😂😂
People think he is a nice guy....
Always has 🤣
@The Geek Is Strong I was about to say that... He said it in the interview. "They thought Neville was an easy target. I wasn't having it... Vierra is 6 foot something.. he wanted to have a go at Gary. I told him 'why don't you have a go at me then'?"
Roy Keane. ❤️
Roy Keane. A breathe of fresh air, absolutely nailing it!
He didn't tho
Not on this occasion
matthew hill how so? What's happened since? Nothing, yes there's an unbeaten run, but mostly poor teams. We've not won anything either, not to mention how many poor games there's been too. Solskjaer is a Glazer apologist, there to smile and get 4th while they benefit financially.
@@ronburgundinho3929 To be fair, we've got 3rd. We're most likely going to get Sancho and we're most likely going to win the Europa league.
Shergy scraped 3rd because of Leicester collapsing. Won’t win Europa either. If Sancho comes he’s spent nearly 350m and got what? Nothing. Less points than the last 3 managers got in their first year and spent more. Great stuff. Sold a striker who outscored our strikers by 7 too. Amazing work
Love how they're all cutting each other off mid sentence, but when Roy Keane speaks they shut up.
Because they know Roy would still put a tackle in. 😎
Most time he actually listens.
He'd tell them to "Stick it up yer bollocksl"
its the same with Souness aswell, Roy and Graeme are the Generals here lol
@@kiely4561 neville and carragher are great together because they are emotional and react like fans. But that lets them down in this exact way. Keane and souness are far more controlled when not talking.
Gary “Let me finish” Neville
He wasn't so confident as a manager
Name of his sex tape
The dude is angry
Neville is right. It's not entirely Jose Mourinho's fault. The club needed to reset when Ferguson retired and Gill quit. Ferguson's managerial skills were clearly in decline by his retirement; his judgement in picking players to sign was not what it once was. His choice of successor was a curious one: David Moyes was competent at Everton, but not really equipped to take the team to a higher level. United should have questioned the choice and maybe even overruled it.
But United didn't reset. It didn't move on from Ferguson. It went from the out-of-his-depth Moyes to the nutso Louis van Gaal to the walking soap opera Mourinho. Old Trafford has become Coronation Street.
Amir Khalid I agree bro it’s sad. Neville is hurt to see his boyhood club in this state. Watching him talk about ManU is like watching arsenal fan tv last season
Mourinho came 2nd with this squad, won the League Cup and Europa league. I dare anyone win anything with this squad. Mou is king of managers, if there’s a problem with him and you, it’s probably you
Mourinho deserves a statue for achieving what he did with such a mediocre Man Utd squad
This aged well...
and this age super well , almost 3 years later , nothing has changed , the players are to cocky and inmature , they will never win with that attitude , the worst mistake of this club was to think Mourinho was the problem.
Yep 👍
this is still aging well, now our rival fans are singing OLE's at the wheel :(
When Roy speaks no one interrupts 😂
Except Souness.
because he would eat you alive....
“Let me finish” ooo your hard, Gary’s fuming ahaha
cause keane is there
Livid
Sky should get keane to be a regular on the show great value for money
They can't at the moment
He said recently in an interview that he only likes doing it now and again
Jose is having the last laugh. The players are the issue. Jose over achieved at utd.
im not a man u fan or a Liverpool fan I just love football but never in my life time have I seen such an overrated group of prima donna's as the current man utd team I wouldn't pay them in chocolate buttons
3 seasons 6 transfer windows. Very much his players
@@cmoogster no one wanted those overrated little boys
@@cmoogster that's true ole is doing a great job though
@@Travis015 Is he really though?
Who is here after Everton beat man united 4-0, it wasn't Jose, it was the players
RIP Jose lol
I am Man Utd fan and that is 100% correct. How United can lose to Everton 4-0 is beyond understanding!
Earn 250k but perform like 100 euros
players he bought and kept on dickhead
Jack O'callaghan jose made excuses all the time. United being crap doesn’t cover up the fact hes crap
@@shantanushrivastava9981 because it's not 1999, there are better teams than man u now
This a great line of up pundits. Top class men
Can't stand Souness though
Smithy18 Roy Keane is good when he’s not hating on England 😂
* and Carragher
As players, compete flops as managers
Except for the Rotten old man Souness
Love if keane came in as manager just to rip into those players
Kelan Feeney if Keane came it would be a disaster football a lot different nowadays till the 90s players can drive u out now so Keane would be a mistake
Things would get even worse. Keano would scare those pussy boi's not coming into training. Neville said it best. Reset. Keane would be oil on a raging fire.
Keane maybe not as the new head coach but as part of the coaching staff would be great
I doubt it!.He also courts Controversy&and unfortunately his Coaching&Managment career hasn't replicated his playing Career..
Kelan Feeney Keane would lose the dressing room, look at what happened when he was coach at Ireland, Players can’t take criticism anymore
Don’t know what’s stronger, their accents or their tackles back in the day 😆
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
"Will yer let me finish" he asks questions and interrupts with questions bravo Gary bravo
@kieran Pugh well nobody really wants to hear this guy talk they want to hear the pundits
Today Mourinho stuck two World Cup winners in the bench and then played Felaini up front. What on Earth is going on in his head that warrants that? The guy is a madman.
Hilarious but brutally honest how on earth can he justify playing fellani
Fellaini Jones pogba Herrera lindelof all terrible & need to be outed not good enough & that’s making just a few
sourcescience he's doing his best to get sacked,it's like a Mexican stand off with the board,he still lives in a hotel he had no intention of sticking around and the board didn't see it,they really do need to off him maybe once the cups are out the way,replace him with a manager who is not afraid to off load big ego's give the new manager a four year plan backed with investment.its a long long road ahead for the supporters but that's football and my message to all fans from all clubs is none of the players board members will ever pay your rent if your back was against the wall so don't let it rule your life.
He bought on fellani to shut down fabinho in the second half because he was running riot, uniteds midfield was absent all game, and it worked somewhat.
He played fellaini in centre mid actually. His job was to spread the ball about for the forwards. Offered nothing in defense. The agenda against pogba is toxic. Why not play him there? You get the same result in defense but atleast you get better ball distribution. Put pogba and fellaini on. Lump the ball up to fellaini. Instead we saw fellaini doing the lumping. Souness obviously found a way to blame pogba for this.
Gary neville just absolutely shredded the board
10:20 if you came here to hear Jamie's foreshadowing of UCL final between Liverpool and Tottemham
Carragher laughing his ass off in his mind 😂😂😂😂😂
Oshane haha so true
Manchester Shity United🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 💩💩💩💩💩
he's laughing his ass off in his mind
Jahahah
Yes thinking 0 pl medals🤣😂😂fluke defender he was 🤣😂
Neville is proper pissed. United through and through.
I love it
Proper ggmu
@Fred McGregor boo hoo
Seeing this after 4-0 loss to Everton. It was the players not Jose! Should replay this to Neville
gary already admit it his wrong in another video
To be fair everyone was saying mourinho was the problem at the time.
Gary was actually supporting mourinho here.
I heard a lot of defending Mourinho
Got to love Roy Keanes analys... legend. Always put 💯 into every match as did many others. He stood out from the pack tho.
You know it’s bad when souness doesn’t get a word in
You know it's good **
Only reason I liked this video
Lol
I also noticed he didn't refer to us as Man U as he normally does when there's no Utd player or ex player there. He seems to find his manners when he's in the company of Utd players.
Thats because Pogba didn't play for him to criticize.
New centreback? They’ve just signed smalling... 😂
what? they signed him years ago.....
@@jjtheblue11 New contract
joshua mills new contract
United had the best defence in all comps last season.
@@lukemclellan2141 but he said it like they just bought him
Turns out Mourinho was right about the players and overachieved at United.
Jamie Carragher talking bout champions league, "Liverpool and Tottenham may not win them". Months after, Champions League will be played by Liverpool and Tottenham 😂 Thanks Jamie 😆
Wish granted.. its the start.. we will test our might, city knows it very well they also got the mindset only play to win even toteham too..
And now Liverpool won
People often forget that Mourinho has signed 2 cbs for 30 mil each roughly in Bailly and Lindelof, it's no wonder the board didn't back him to sign another one when you think about that.
Exactly the board have backed he just makes pointless excuses
tiezalbo especially when Spurs wanted 90m for a 30 year old cb.
Good point. Both are terrible
it's just that 30 mil isn't getting you the top top players anymore. With the money that manchester united have i think they should have reached for the best players out there when they bought in new players, it's a vey big differens between the absolute best in the world and the ones considered just below that level and now it's maybe to late because I don't see anyone at that level wanting to go to man U anymore.
Lindelof is the worst fotball player I've seen, period. Not only in "professional" football on the TV, but from experience. And I've played with girls too :)
Sky need to have this punditry lineup regularly.
Am Cha plus Jamie
Without souness
@@khaldrogo6130 souness speaks the truth and wasn't afraid to say anything about United's failings in front of Keane ... we need more like him
@Eddie Power Lol no, he's always talking out of his ass. He's so annoying...
There will be blood
Falcao, Di Maria, Schweinsteiger, Sanchez, Mata, Martial... All these players were amazing at their previous club and became mediocre while playing for United. So it's not only Mourinho, it has been going on since SAF left.
Laurens C. Real talk the club is run by kids that play ultimate team lol
Well Martial has been better for United than he ever was for Monaco, the stats don't lie. Mata hasn't been worse for United, he's a consistent performer. Falcao showed that he was just not suited for the premier league, he was even worse for Chelsea. Schweinsteiger wasn't great for United, but he wasn't terrible, and he's not exactly setting the world alight in Chicago, in fact he's playing at CB for 50% of his games. Di Maria was a tough one, it's 50/50 for me because he actually ended up not doing too badly but I think he didn't want to be playing Europa league football and not winning titles.
The mistake for me came from appointing Moyes. I believed for a long time that it had to be done, and someone had to be the fall guy, but seeing what Arsenal have done after Wenger left makes me think otherwise. They went balls to the wall and appointed a high profile manager who has won trophies. They might not necessarily win the title this year, but they are playing entertaining football and at least they're competitive.
Louis Irvine I'm not disagreeing with everything you said but Martial was 17 at Monaco he had just about made 50 appearances, he's a number 9 being played out of position and unappreciated. As for Arsenal, we definitely appointed the safest option, a very well rounded coach who will transition us into the new era of football. I think the only candidate is Pochettino unless Ole does well (hope he does) + I can't stand those yids
I feel like sir Alex loves that mourinho is losing his job at united . I think sir Alex has a whole lot to do with José failure at the club. I think Alex dictates to the board what to do in some ways. We know mourinho n Alex hate each other. Alex Ferguson lose more matches to mourinho than any other coach . Mourinho won European trophies with smaller clubs while Alex only did it with united which is bigger than every club mourinho managed except Real Madrid. The players are clearly under program . United only signed mourinho to Humiliate him.
Ferguson won with Aberdeen too.
Keane is savage
"still to win a trophy" 🤣
Then Klopp wins a trophy 5 months later!
He wins the biggest of them all
Foxtrot6624 yes it is
@@Foxtrot6624 To us (Liverpool) many would agree, but to the whole Europe, UCL is better and bigger than any other trophy, even World Cup for some.
Champions des europeenz
9:53 Roy Keane: Gary let's not get carried away with liverpool and Tottenham just yet, these teams haven't won Trophies yet 🤣🤣🤣
Classic Keano
I was waiting for that lol
Im with LFC, but this made my day :))))
Seriously.... miles apart... country miles... January looms.
Reminds me of the old interview with Ole. Asked about liverpool title chance. 2014. "I couldn't care less" Still a class act.
and he was being sarcastic too... making souness mad
This has been the best talk of the year from sky. Should definitely try to get roy keane as full-time. Same would stand for man united regarding managing
Ole loses 5-0 at home to Liverpool and Gary is still saying he needs more time!
(Knocks on toilet door)
Neville: "Can you let me finish."
Dalot, Lingard, Bailly, Rashford, De Gea were the only players that were actually playing yesterday. It was 5 united players vs 11 liverpool players....something needs to change in United
Lingard was absolutely garbage. Which game were you watching?
Lol lingard....
Lingard scored
@@michaelsardinha5114 he scored
Lingard wasn’t that good & Dalot is not United standard. It’s just basics, like movement off the ball. Every player static
with keane around, neville and garragher don't dare to fk around
that awkward silence at 10:07 when Keane cuts Neville off is epic LoL
Neville retreats verrrry quickly :D
that cough says a thousand words
Once your captain, always your captain
@@dannyboywhaa3146 Don't be ridiculous.There is a time and a place to make those comments and he selfishly jeoperdized Irelands chances with his behaviour.
He is more of a selfish bully than a man of honour and he should have been arrested for his despicable assault on Alf-inge Haaland!
haha well observed :)
Here after the 5-0 humbling
Neville's voice set my dog off barking
My Fernando Torres gnome had a seizure
😂😂😂😂
High pitched lol 😆
ESPN will never have this.
Nev shutting everyone down until Keane speaks. Nev knows his place ;)
After almost a year, every Sky Sport discussion about MU somehow linked back to this clip 🤣🤣🤣
Mourinho was right, end of story.
Mourinho failed. 2nd story
Vijay Iyer are you dumb ?
Vijay Iyer ole has a worst ever winning percentage
@@ethangondo no. Are you blind?
@@ethangondo when did i say anything about ole?? Maybe you really are blind
“What manger gets everyone they want” man got that absolutely spot on. Pep didn’t get alexis, got Mahrez instead and he’s getting the most out of him.
Why should the club keep backing him if he is not getting the most out of the players he’s gotten? Nah get out with that BS
He never wanted a lexis, they just wanted to drive the price up
He got a new back 4 in one window. The rest of the squad was there already
But he got someone else though didn't he when he already has such a strong squad who just won the league!!!!! We also know that pep normally gets what he wants and money is no issue therefore there may be a very high chance that city just played Man Utd into paying overinflated prices to stop them buying more. Mourinho already started off with a c+ squad and when they didn't get his cb of choice they didn't get a replacement player either.There is a reason pep avoided Utd or Dortmund and always goes to manage A- sides at the minimum.
A lot of reports state that even pogba wasn't his signing so who's to say any of the others are!!!
“A blind man can see that” 😂
Daniel Woods Daley Blind just scored a hattrick from CB.
Lukaku has 2 in 3 months. 🤣
Man Utd only need a new
Keeper
Defenders (Full backs)
Defenders (Center backs)
Midfielders
Strikers
Oh and a new
Board
Manager
That's all.
They got nearly all of that
Mourinho being backed by spurs,..beats man united 6-1 :)
One game wow .
Top of the table lol keep drawing to Fulham
@@harnavsaini2677 Man City top
@@harnavsaini2677 yeah one game wonder 😂😂 look where you’re at now...
@@conflict-tv second ? Where you at after losing to West Ham? 🤣
‘Give it to Giggsy till end of the season’
@John Black 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh here we go with the Giggs bullshit! Let it go ffs he was great player and that was it..
Give it to Giggs permanently. He knows the club inside out and couldn't do any worse than last 3 managers. He would play attacking football and bring youth through.
Nat Mal stop watching football you haven’t a clue what you are looking at and you’ll only be embarrassing yourself,
Jimmy Conrad are you joking ?
Even Neville thinks Mourinho should have been removed now, there's nothing to hold on to for our deluded fans anymore. What an atrocious game and 3 of our best players are still on the bench...embarrassing
At least he realized he was stupid to back Mourinho .
I want jose to go and in two years time the new manager comes in and struggle who are you going to blame
I could listen to Roy Keane talking sense all day...Top Bloke..!!..
Go and Apologize to Jose Mourinho, Now .
Nah
Lol no. Look where he is now
@@areeshkirmani4013 what are you talking about? He is in a final , uefa Europa leage , doing great toward the top 4, most likely to bring a trophy at Totenham. What else do you want ?
@@trazhgimgosturani6232 he’s in 7th position whilst united are 2nd and spurs are playing horrible football. No one associated with United should apologise to that defensive fraud mourinho.
@@areeshkirmani4013 Mourinho finished 2nd with Phil jones and Smalling in defence, but now you have bought the best defender in premier leage , millions of dollars , and Fernades , millions of dollars and yet again You and all the Man utd fans , dream to finish 2nd and you will not finish 2nd , we will be here at the end of the season.
Liverpool fans so Happy that Mourinho still UTD manager
He signed a new contract!!?
I'm not I'd rather see him not working in football can't stand him
Most Man Utd fans are too young to remember Liverpool winning the League.
Man Utd fans were spoilt under Sir Alex - 13 PL titles, that will probably never happen again under one manager.
He won PL titles with Cleverly in midfield.
King of the Bridge and Chris smelling and Phil Jones at the back
Games a lot different now, 6 top teams and lower league teams splashing 100 million to avoid relegation. 13 titles in 20 years probably won't happen again
There’s no probably about it, it will never happen again.
@@kingofthebridge8339 cleverly was amazing what are you talking about he was my fav young mid back then
Who here after they lost to spurs 6-1 😂?
I feel bad for ole he seems like a good coach but that defense is awful. You cant blame the manager for everything hes not the one out there playin
Keane was always right about Maguire and de gea😅😅
✋
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not at all sorry for Ole.. He will get them regulated like he did with Cardiff; them toxic players at United will make sure be long gone by Christmas! Ole at best is a championship manager
But you guys blamed everything on Mourinho but with Ole everything is on the Board.
9:20 the way Roy Keane says " Newcastle" so dismissive and filled with distain. 😂
Whats gone wrong at United? Just compare the club to the one that beat them today.
We had been a joke, mid-table side for the better part of 7 years after those idiot owners nearly ruined us. We kept bringing in weak managers to steady a ship that was sinking. Hodgson, Rodgers, all mediocre managers that kept recklessly buying with little thought. Our players were sub-standard and everyone could see that.
Klopp has been here 3 years and everyone keeps saying "Mourinho has won 2 trophies and Klopp has won 0". Fine, thats true. But look at the impact on the club as a whole. Over the course of those three seasons Klopp has been weeding out the bad ones and the sub standard players and replacing them with talented players who will run through a brick wall for him. Just look at the difference in players then vs now. Joe Allan replaced by Gini Wijnaldum. Christian Benteke replaced by Sadio Mane. Jordan Ibe replaced by Mo Salah. Mamadou Sakho replaced by Virgil Van Dijk. Lucas Leiva replaced by Fabinho. All of these players are miles better than their predecessors and Klopp, over the course of 3 years and an incredible amount of growing pains, has transformed our mid table squad, to one of the best in Europe. You cant rush success, even Man City took 4 years to get to their first title. Yeah, we haven't won anything but who is in the better position to win things? Proportionately, who has made a bigger impact? Mourinho and his win fast win dirty method is a tired act in the modern game. Unless he is backed to the moon then his way wont work because football clubs are investing so heavily, not only in players, but in facilities, coaches, backroom staff. All less noticeable than players but they are revolutionizing the game behind the scenes. You cant bring in a manager like Mourinho and back him sometimes, and then sometimes not. Its everything or nothing and the heirarch's at United are too hesitant to either pull the plug and also to back him. The problem is bigger than Mourinho, much much bigger, but I dont think we can say he isnt a contributing factor.
As a Liverpool fan believe me I am relishing this, but because our club went through the same thing, it is kind of hard not to show some level of sympathy.
Shut up
@@itallturnstodust1216 Thanks.
I think the fear as a United fan is that we end up in the wilderness like Liverpool did and United did before that. Liverpool were so dominant in the 70's and 80, during which time it was United that was in the wilderness. Fergie came in and it took him 6 years to build the club back up and once he did, they never looked back. Meanwhile, Liverpool, who had been so dominant, fell away. The great Liverpool side of the 80's was replaced with good but not great teams and good but not great managers. Every now and then they would rise to the occasion, like when they won 5 trophies in a year and of course the famous Champion's League win but the Premier League eluded them.
Both teams have been successful in Europe, Liverpool more so, but I think for both clubs, the league is be all and end all. I may be wrong but I think Liverpool fans, while they'd like to win the Champion's League again, would happily crash out of the competition if it meant winning the Premier League this year. For both United and Liverpool, the league is the mountaintop. United went a long time without winning it until Fergie came in and Liverpool have gone a long time without winning it since the Fergie era began. Liverpool have the chance to put that right under Klopp whereas United look like they could be in for a decade of nothing if something isn't done.
You lost me at Joe Allen. If Liverpool wanted to win anything they should have kept the Welsh Iniesta.
jedsithor you’re already in the wilderness
Can’t blame the CBs with a game plan like that. Atrocious managing
Man city have the best defence in the league ? Not because there cb are good but because most attacks get dealt with by their forwards and midfielders.
Tom Hulme yes Tom spot on...I personally think bailey and Lindalof are under too much pressures....ball is being stored around the midfield with ease...
John Galt What’s the game plan
I mean Mourinho gameplan does heavily depend on the CBs, man's out here like Tony Pulis 2.0 with that counter attacking park the bus football lol
Tom Hulme Totally agree, defend from the front is today’s modern game. City, Liverpool and spurs prove this.
I think it comes down to the players at United we’re just not good enough! Klopp took 5 years to win the league for Liverpool because it took that long to get rid of the players not good enough (benteke, clyne, Sturbridge, shelvey) etc for players like Mane and Salah and VVD that we’re good enough, the manager and the club are only as good as there players.
Lol. United were better under Jose than ole in all the 3 years combined! 81 points in the 2nd season, ahead of spurs and Liverpool despite worse squad. Asked for a centre back(Ruben dias) and got Fred. Won 3 trophies with a backline of young, valencia, lindelof/ Bailly and Jones/ smalling! Never got embarrassed against arch rivals like ole under city, Liverpool and now even against like Watford. United deserve where they are declining and decaying!
Who else forget Man Utd had Fred before Souness talk about him? 😂😂
Barny did yaba dabba doh.
I did 😂
Who is Fred?
Me
@@torinlacapital oh ok
*One day just one day Lukaku will actually win an aerial duel.*
Abdikhadar Hassan He was up against vvd chill
Lukaku has no first touch skills, he will never win an aerial duel.
Yeah, when he loses all the extra weight so that he can actually jump up to win the ball.
He won at least 3 yesterday 🤷♂️
One day he will control the ball
the bst thing sky does is when they have 5 sitting round a table and have souness, neville and keane go in on man united i absolutely love it
Morgan Mackay Neville is gutless forever changing his story when he comes under scrutiny I’d attribute him to a rodent compared to Souness and Keane :-)
Who else is here after Jose got the Spurs job?
Roy Keane aka The Realist ever
He never takes responsibility for a loss but puts up 3 fingers up and always claims the victory. jose😂😂
I don't think so 😂😂
Who is here after finishing 6th and thinking about finishing 2nd last season ? It was the players who should have controlled and told clearly who is the boss, it wasn't done and we are here. Neville was right how many managers you change ? Now Ole poor guy..
Finishing 20 points behind in 2nd was worse coz that was Joes biggest moment
Jamie Carragher sitting like a kid called into the head masters office 😂
crazy how mourinho is still manager
Players are shite.
Hudheifa Omar THE MANAGER IS NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM AND I WILL SAY THAT WOODWARD GLAZERS AND SOME PLAYERS ARE THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN THIS CLUB.......WHAT CAN YOU WIN WITH SMALLING JONES ROJO DARMIAN LUKAKU FELLAINI AND I WILL INCLUDE POGBA SINCE HE ARRIVED.....NOT AT HIS BEST LEVEL AT ALL....THE ONLY THING YOU CAN WITH WITH THAT IS EUROPA LIGUE OR CARABAO CUP
@@sivispacemparabellum3056 less caps
Omar did u see how shocking lukaku and rashford where and u wanna day Jose?
@@MrNana0987 who is the one that plays lukaku?
Gary "Let me finish" Neville
Whose watching this after they lost to Newcastle?
Roy's respond to Gary 9:53 was absolutely excellent
Carraghar spot on here👌🏼👌🏼
Should have never got his job back
tHe ReAL DEal come on he’s the one of the if not the best pundits
@@davidread8049 Dennis Wise is the best pundit on sky now.
@@Yestes same thing can be said to gary after that embarassing valencia spell.
Says it how it is.
Mourinho wants a new defender. He signed Lindelof, he signed Bailly. And we see him play McTominay or Herrera at times in defense. He's been supported, he wanted a striker - He got Sanchez. He wanted a midfielder - he got matic and Fred. Who of his signings is playing well? Who of the current squad in general is playing well? When we signed Martial, we put clauses in the deal for if he won the ballon dor, now he looks afraid to take a player on. If every manager got a blank cheque, there wouldn't be a "special one". He's a manager that peaked 10 years ago and hasn't changed. From his motivational style, his tactics, his demeanour, and he's been figured out. Time for him to go, and we need to bring someone in who at least empowers these players to go into every game with the mentality of "we are going to score more than you, we want to dominate all facets of the game" rather than "we will concede less than you". It's going to be a multi-year job, we need a root and branch reset of the culture.
He hasnt been supported at all. Far from it.
@@frizzyred1292 Agreed mate and people will list all these signings but these weren't his preferred players. Mou's system thrives on having players who play the Mourinho way--selfless and hardworking for the team. There's a reason players like Mkhi and Depay never made it and he comes back to players like Herrera and Fellaini over and over again.
frizzy red Lol please, Ferguson would’ve won the champions league with this team. Mou has a team to do a lot better than this. He’s outdated
@@onesf7954 He has absolutely dogshit tactics and seeks to reconcile this by demanding everything from his players. It's laughable really.
Not to mention he didn't think that salah or de bruyne were good enough. Even Daly blind and Memphis are now playing better
Fast forward 5 years...its now Sunday December 17th 2023 Liverpool v Utd and the club is still in this position if not worse!
To be honest this started under Sir Alex. He was so good at grooming the home grown players and getting the best out of mediocre players. He didn't bring in any top signings in his last year
Not a United fan but this club is in a slippery rope they need to act fast before they end up like Liverpool did in the early 90s
Spot on actually.
Before you "end up"? No title in 5yrs means you're already there.
United are finished. They will never be a dominant force like they was. It was Ferguson who was the giant not the club. With Moyes, Van Gaal and now Mourinho failing it's proof that Ferguson actually was bigger than the club. Same thing happened with Liverpool when Paisley and Fagan moved on. They won titles with Dalglish but most of them weren't even Dalglish's players.
@@chrisrowe7503 that's not really united though mate. Football is different now. Money is the main factor
@@zeusymoosey3348 Actually it pretty much is United now. Not only that, United's reckless spending is almost pin point to the reckless spending they did just before SAF took over.
Are they really talk about one center back. He has already bought two center backs for 70 mil
Who is here after 0-5 at old Trafford nd 4-0 at anfield 🙃
Now why they dont sack ole he hasn't even won a single Trophy
Suprised keane never slide tackled any one
Its way bigger than signing one centre back.
How was this 4 years ago
Carra asking will a CB revolutionise united when he and most Liverpool fans would say signing VVD was the key to Liverpool’s success (even tho he wasn’t) had Jose got a CB with the way he likes to play it’s very likely it could have been the missing piece to his team.
*I'll tell you what. Souness got some nerve taking part in this conversation LMAO*
I dont get ot
Why?
Why?
Neither was neville or Keane lol
@BCFC Yet he's one of the greatest midfielders the English 1st division has ever seen.
Jamie Carragher spoke a lot of sense in this video, consider this from a United Fan's view, Carragher was right when he said no manager gets exactly what they want, so why does Mourinho complain. He is using the players as a scapegoat to defend his atrocious managerial tactics. I'm sorry to say this but Jose isn't a world class manager and needs to get the sack NOW. We are Manchester United, we should never let a manager like this stay longer. If Ferguson could win the League with players like Johnny Evans and Rafael Da Silva, then why can't Jose do it with somewhat world class players? Jose needs to go NOW!!!
Ateeq Patel ngl he is world class, but has just been terrible at Man U. Since he is still the quickest manager to get 100 PL wins with chelsea
Alexander Gandy and won UCL with Porto
Realistically when mourinho finished his first season. Everyone would admit that uniteds squad was probably the best in the league. Depth wise and quality wise. Whats changed? If anything more have come in and players have improved like shaw. If you cant compete with a squad of lukaku who when he signed was a 20 goal a season striker, alexis sanchez one of the best players in the league and in his prime, pogba one of the brightest midfielders in europe and could realistically fit in any system, q complete midfielder, one of the best keepers in the world. I dont even think the centre halves are poor i genuienly think they are being mismanaged. Bailly was a fantastic signing and very promising at first. You put that lot in klopps hands and i guarantee you they'd have won the league.
Exactly! It may be understandable that Mourinho's wants more CBs to tighten up his defense, but with that attacking line-up of Rashford, Pogba, Martial, Alexis, Lukaku, they should be bombing teams with attacks. Probably similar to how Liverpool were a season or two ago, where they just blitz teams.
Similar to what Carragher said, Mourinho shouldn't complain. Mourinho needs to adjust himself to the players he got.
Pep gets what ge wants.. 😂
This is a real panel to discuss a topic like this. Good chat this 👍 🔥🔥🔥
Rui Faria quitting as his assistant coach after more than 10 years together had some part to play in the decline of Manchester United performances.
Most people overlook this.
Broke the world transfer record, most expensive striker in premiership history, highest wage earner in the premiership... erm yeah Mourinho hasn't been backed.
But did Mourinho make all the signings. He has given Lukaku lots of chances but has not done so with the other players which makes me suspect he did not sign them.
@@bighands69 he signed a new contract
@@bighands69 But its not just that. The question is that can he actually make use of the players he has now ? ManU have an amazing squad right now from attacking players to defensive.
We saw how good Lukaku, Sanchez and Pogba were in their previous club, and that was the reason ManU signed them.
But now, those same players are not showing any potential signs of success for which they were hired in the first place.
Yes individual efforts from player matter on the pitch, but at the same time its also about the tactics which is been implemented by the Manager.
you say Man Utd got an amazing squad, both from offense to defense. Now tell me, who amongst the defensive players are amazing? Smalling? A shadow of himself under Fergie. Jones? He could have been good if it wasnt for him being injured all the time. Lindeløf? A good alternative, a rotation player. Future 1st team. Bailly? He is certainly good, but not just yet the super-defender we had in Rio or Vida.
The problem with United is diagnosed pretty well in this debate. Anyone who does not see this is pretty ignorant.
@@henriknordahl94 Alright lets say ManU have bad defense as you pointed out. But why are they not even able to score judging by their so many attacking players ?
Why ManU is losing against teams like Westham, Brighton and Valencia? Are you saying that these teams have better squad then ManU ? Even a team like Young boys were able to hold them of till 90 minutes. Fellani's extra time goal gave united a lucky win.
Don't tell me that you consider team's like Westham, Brighton, Valencia, YB have better squad then United.