Why Halo CE Leaves a Lasting Impression on New Players
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- čas přidán 9. 03. 2023
- In this video, I talk about why I think Halo CE leaves a lasting impression on first-time players through its story and sense of discovery/mystery. Even though most of you watching (and me) have beaten it countless times, I don't think that original feeling should be overlooked.
Next video out should be an absolute behemoth, so just a heads up. - Hry
Yep. My personal favorite.
you love to see it
Been playing since i was a wee lad. Thanks for all the bangers Marty, wish you the best
Please come back & save us
And how the hell would you know?!
Did you even heard the soundtrack?
Love you Marty! Thanks for everything!
John Halo stole my wife. I have not recovered.
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U never had a wife to begin with
@@bottleflaskan802 oh how i wish that was true
Simply retrieve her
sorry not sorry
This game is a fucking masterpiece for its time. And the fact that it still holds up today (minus repetitive map design) makes me really happy.
I think it was a well executed reuse of assets and an efficient use of the budget for the deadline they had for a launch title. But I agree it's a masterpiece in the series.
@@xTheReapersSpawn I somewhat agree, but something slighty different would’ve been better than outright using the same map design, only in reverse.
But the story is definitely what saves that compromise.
It does not hold up to a game from 2013 (GTA V) yes it is been 10 years since GTA V and that game actually still holds up well, Halo CE is a boring, bad, slog. And speaking of the past Half Life did a better job at being fun than Halo CE, i couldnt even force my self to replay halo ce cause its that not fun. So stop coping and put those nostalgia googles off.
@@spzz33 *NEWSFLASH*
"10 year old game holds up better than a 22 year old game."
Stop the fucking presses. 🙄
@@m0urn1ng5tar5 Okay i'll admit that was stupid but what about Half-Life 1(1998) that game didnt to reuse full geometry for an entite level or reused levels (AoCR - TB) in Half-Life each chapter is memorable in its design and gameplay im not saying they are perfect but you get a sence of progression of levels (Ex: We've got hostiles starts slow and ends with an epic battle) wich you dont get in Halo CE's levels like im in this fucking ship and dont know when does it end and it feels like its never gonna end. In Half-Life you have fun gameplay , areas to explore, cool gimics like the tanks and bradleys, the game always has fun and amazing sections with many gimics in between as the game goes on till Xen cause xen is shit. Halo CE is a classic shooter i get that but thats not an excuse to reusing entire levels 3 times , Also there is the library the level that is shit, the game has ton od bad game design that make it pain to to through mainly on legendary after the 2nd half. Honestly it doesnt hold up well to Half-Life but is an Fantastic Title of its time so yeah.
I think the best part of the Flood is just how things escalate within the same level. It spends just enough time conditioning you to think they'll be the high mobility melee enemy going forward and then hit you with "the zombies can use guns."
The part where the Grunts and Jackals were running from Assault Rifle fire only for there to be no marines around that corner creeped me out when I first started playing, upon my second playthrough I found out that before you make it to the structure, if you look around, you will spot Flood Combat Forms stalking you through the fog and trees.
The helmet cam log showing the marines ignorantly retracing your steps got to me, or rather showing that you were following their apparently doomed mission right into the same unknown danger, arriving at that same room, very effective back then and even now. I mean, that whole section is just an actual masterpiece so hey.
Indeed, when you get to where there are like 4 jackals and one is right up the tree there is a flood elite from the up high tree trunch just looking at you until it dissappear, of course hes impossible to see in og graphics, then when you are on top of the fallen tree if you look to your left in between the trees there is one combat form running from left to right and then right to left, look to your right and up you see some flood elites running away then loon forward and you see a flood elite which also runs away
I played Halo when I was 8 or 9 yo and I stopped for like 6 months when i got to 343 GS. I could not bring myself to play the game anymore because i was too scared of the flood. Yes I was a kid but no game after Halo creeped me out the same way.
@@lodagin the flood gave me nightmares for years lol, tbf i was like 5 years old when i first saw the flood in halo but man that shit haunted me
When I first came across the flood I was surprised to see a new enemy that obviously are not part of the covenant... when I thought my AR would demolish the spores in a second I was mistaken and immediately the flood was a daunting enemy to me, then the surprise visit from the combat forms jumping through the door threw me off.. the flood is one hell of an enemy, can't wait for their return
Things can vividly remember as a kid are the pillar of autumn, halo , the hunters for the first time, the flood and library and the warthog run at the end. I’ve never forgotten those parts and they really stuck in my memory
Don’t you mean the puma?
Im currently playing through the halo series for the very time. I was 8 years old when halo CE came out and only now I'm getting to play these games. I'm so glad I am. Halo and the first trilogy has certainly stood the test of time. The soundtrack, the writing and the story is timeless
Nice! Have fun
pro tip: dont let Kat drive
You’re in for a master piece man hope you enjoy it
Beat this game for the first time last year, having never played a halo game in my life. The atmosphere of the ring, the elegant simplicity of the enemies, mechanics, story...it makes for a pretty awesome experience.
However, I can confirm that the Library is basically pulling teeth. From an angry elite. Who has an energy sword. And who will never, ever, OPEN the DOOR, even when you're about to DIE.
AGAIN.
I hope you played through all the games man halo is a fun universe with deep lore
I definitely did not turn my Xbox off when the flood first showed up. That was just a power surge.
Haha
I'm ngl The Flood from Halo CE completely SCARRED me as a child....the noises they make, their inability to be killed via melee and I definitely SHOULD NOT have played 343 guilty spark late at night alone in my room
The game is a masterpiece and I can talk all day about it. But I would rather talk about the masterpiece that is your videos and how well they are made in showing the quality of the franchise. Highlighting key points that matter most that we can all argee with. It's nice to feel part of a community of halo lovers which is a channel like this one from its early stages. Granted, I've only been here since your 1k subscriber mark. But I feel it has the potential for 1 million more. And when that day comes I'll be proud to say that I've been here since 999k previously.
Thanks Dylan
Bro, why do you only have 1,960 subscribers? You're gonna hit it big in the next few months. Your writing and delivery are excellent.
Still pretty new, so I'm grateful for what I have so far
We'll see what the future holds!
Yeah, Cortana was originally supposed to be using a British accent. However, the voice actor didn't, making the phrase sound off to the script.
“what could easily be mistaken for a naturally formed cave” was 🤌 chefs kiss
RIP Foehammer 😔
This was very well done. Excellent work.
What I love about CE is how overpowered you are. CE captures the feeling of being a super soldier better than any other Halo, and you genuinely feel like the most powerful thing on the ring up until the Flood’s reveal. All the guns are powerful, and none of them feel useless, unlike a lot of weapons in the later Halo games. If CE didn’t have the health system (which is an amazing way to counter your overpoweredness) you would be absolutely unstoppable.
The second mission of Halo CE still has one of the best atmosphere i have ever experienced in gaming. I can't really put my fingers on what precisely it is but the way the environment looks, the fact that you can se the whole halo structure above you, the colors and basically everything is so magical I still have goosebumps to this day if I really stop and look at it closely.
Best game i discovered Back then when i was 8.
It remain my best game ever played since then!
One of the scariest things I found in 343 guilty spark was when you pass the jackal hall way you hear some weird sound which freaked me out so I when back just to see the group of jackals I kill where gone.
Good review but you totally passed by how insanely amazing driving the warthog was! It blew my mind as a 16 year old lol. It still drives so good. Point and drive lol
And nowadays some games can't even make it right when a 22yo game did it perfectly
The intro to this video made me laugh so hard 😂😂.
"What are you talking about?!"
Love your vids man keep it up
The mystery for me is the most compelling part of the whole original trilogy (pentalogy including ODST and Reach). The feeling of grandure and scale and alien ineffability of the Forerunner structures, and then the intrigue of the terminals in Halo 3m, and the sense of encountering so much more vast than yourself in the level of Reach where you save Halsey. I think it's the mystery that 343 really killed in the new games by overexplaining every part of the lore behind the forerunners etc. There's no mystery left in the Halo universe, just empty shells where it all used to be. I don't think it's a nostalgia thing, I enjoyed Infinite, but I enjoyed it as a fun and silly FPS game - there's no sense of depth to any of the Forerunner relics you encounter. It just feels like a theme park.
This channel gives me 125k subscribers vibes. Keep up the good work, May the algorithm bless you soon
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very nice editing! :)
No one ever talks about John Halos sister Jane Halo SMH my head 😔
Haha
I definitely agree, my first play through felt like a big adventure and the story kept me wanting to know more. This game is one of my favorites
Halo 2's big plot twist was the Arbiter. IMO Halo 3's big plot twist was that humans were the descendants of forerunners. 343 games later retconned this plot twist out of the canon but it was explicitly mentioned by Guilty Spark ("you are the child of my makers, inheritors of all they left behind, you ARE forerunner") and implied by Gravemind ("child of my enemies") and the Prophet of Truth ("your forefathers wisely set aside their compassion"). Halo 3's plot twist was just blunted so much by future retcons.
great video!
8:52 Yes, this right here. This is what was missing from the sequels. Haven't heard people talk about it much.
Played CE since release (approx 6 years old or something) and 343 GS still gives me chills and goosebumps, then Ruby’s mod gave me some new ones I didn’t have before.
As someone who has played this game so many times playing with mods on MCC greatly gives the game a fresh coat of paint and while I know what happens at the end I still get excited to play that next level
The oldest memory I have of this game, is more a feeling than a memory really, or rather, a collection of thoughts and feelings I had in the period of playing it for the first time. Long story short, I remember sitting in a car, it's winter time and snowy, I'm listening to Enya - Amarantine on my CD player, and thinking about playing Halo when I get back home from visiting family. Shitty childhood, and young adulthood aside, I hold that memory, and memories like it dear. Halo CE was full of mystery and wonder, and I would love to play it for the very first time, once more ♥
I’m now a 25 y/o adult and 343 guilty spark still gives me anxiety and fear. Even after beating the game multiple times
The reason everyone dies in the clash landing is because chief wasn't tied down and he bounced around and everyone knows you will die if a 300 pound 7 foot 2in power are slams into you
That was never confirmed as cannon
@@CeZealot yes it was my dad owns xbox and he told Staton to make it a thing
@@oldmanprostte3574 oh ok seems legit
When I first played Halo, I was blinded by its majesty. No but seriously, I had never played a game like it before and I was blown away by the graphics and the physics in particular. I literally stayed up until 3 AM at a friend’s house just launching the warthog off of cliffs and stuff to observe the physics and it blew my mind. Wish I could reexperience memories like that.
I unfortunately never got this experience since I originally got Halo introduced to me from my uncle who only had Halo 2 and 3. I was also really young so the story kinda just flew over my head. All I wanted to do was shoot aliens lol. I only finally played through CE many years later after I had played through Halo 2, 3, ODST, and 4. So I understood the story already and pretty much knew what was going to happen in CE. BUT the reveal of the Flood in 343 Guilty Spark STILL blew me away at how good it was. I knew exactly what was coming and yet I still was so excited like a little kid would be. It was awesome.
Someone smart - “This cave is not a natural formation. Someone built it”
When you enter the structure after the Covenant are running out being shot at by Machine guns is honestly the biggest "Hmmmm 🤔" moment in my childhood.
What could easily be mistaken for a naturally formed cave was a great line
I finished this game for the first time yesterday. I purposely played with the 2001 graphics as I bought MCC on PC last week. What an experience.
Wears of over time, I've been playing ce since 2002 and 343 guilty spark mission still gives me nightmares and the unfortunate discovery soundrack makes it 100000000 times more terrifying
Cortana is making fun of guilty sparks voice with the "SOD OFF!"
Nicely done. CE is my first video game love. It still holds my heart.
What is it called when you jump, then hold crouch and float midair?
Fun fact about 343 Guilty Spark, the player isn’t the only one feeling fear. The Master Chief was actually pretty terrified after the flood reveal too according to the books.
Even when re-playing it for the nth time I still think CE retains this mysterious, omnious, ancient, lonely vibe and it’s one of the reasons it’s my favorite Halo campaign.
Oh man. First encountering the Flood as a kid, whilst barely speaking English since it's not my first language. Glorious!
I can relate to this about the flood I’m 15 but when i was younger and I played halo ce with my dad I was absolutely scared of the flood
When it released it was a mind blowing game, to this day I consider Halo CE to have one of the most climatic environments ever.
6:40 when you say you envy anyone who can experience this blind...it may make you happy to know that my six-year-old son has taken an interest in Halo, and I've only told him about fighting aliens. I plan on playing CE with him when he's a little older, and I am keeping the Flood under wraps. Cheers!
When I first played Halo: CE, I was young enough that I had the absolute worst attention span and "reading comprehension" (for lack of a more fitting term when talking about experiencing a video game), so even though I understood the overall story and events of Halo: CE, there were so many things that I missed or did not understand, and one of those things was the Flood. I had a vague familiarity with them already, because I was first introduced to Halo: CE when I watched one of my cousins playing one of the later missions (I'm not sure which one, because I could swear that the layout/design was identical to that of 343 Guilty Spark, but I distinctly remember seeing him fight Rocket Flood, which I'm pretty sure are not present in that level), though I think the lack of context of what I was seeing while watching him play helped keep me from being completely robbed of the surprise in their reveal (though, the impact was reduced somewhat because when I first played Assault on the Control Room, I played it with a friend who was always my co-op partner when playing each of the first three Halo games, and he had played that level once before, and for some stupid reason he decided to skip the ending cutscene; so when we played 343 Guilty Spark, I didn't understand why we were looking for Captain Keyes, nor did I have the context of seeing Cortana's frightened/concerned reaction to learning that the Covenant "found something buried in this ring" to set me up for the level).
What I failed to understand for the longest goddamn time was what the Flood actually were. Since you primarily fight infected Elites, and their heads typically just uselessly hang backward to the point that they're out of plain view when facing them head-on, I just figured that these were some sort of alien species that was inherently hostile to all other alien life. And I have no idea why I couldn't realize that the shorter, emaciated ones were infected humans. My aforementioned co-op partner told me that these things simply eat other lifeforms. Specifically, he said that the little tentacled ones (neither of us knew that these were called "infection forms" at the time) drank your blood, and that the larger ones ate your flesh and organs. I'm not sure if he got this information from someone else, made it up, or if it was based on a misunderstanding of what Cortana says in the opening cutscene from Two Betrayals, but when we later reached that part, I thought that her description of humans and Covenant serving as the Flood's "food" seemed to confirm my friend's explanation. You'd think that I'd put two and two together with that paranoid Marine yelling about "turning me into one of those things," but I guess I figured that he was just crazy or talking about something not depicted during gameplay, or something. Or you'd think that I'd FINALLY get the point of what the Flood are when we played Keyes and saw the disturbingly grotesque image of the Captain assimilated into the Flood, but nope. And I certainly wasn't perceptive/attentive enough to catch the monitor's comments about "infection" and "vectors," especially when it comes to anything he said during combat in The Library. Probably the only thing that might've gotten the point across to me during the game is if I could have actually witnessed an Elite or a Marine get attacked and assimilated into the Flood by a pod infector right in front of me like we could finally see in Halo 3, but sadly, the original XBOX clearly wasn't capable of processing something like that (outside of, perhaps, a pre-rendered cutscene, but I believe that all of the game's cutscenes were in-engine).
Thankfully, I always did like to read (despite my aforementioned terrible reading comprehension at the time), so I jumped at the opportunity to check out Halo: The Fall of Reach and its sequel Halo: The Flood, which covered the game's events. And, with that, I finally understood what I had been fighting all that time, and it explained a LOT about what was happening and what was at stake and why the monitor was so eager to activate the ring. If only I could have been perceptive and attentive enough to have picked up on all of that the first time I played the damn game. Knowing the harrowing nature of the Flood and what they were capable of would've vastly improved my experience.
I will always watch videos where it's just someone talking about how much they like Halo CE (and Marty is always in the comments lol)
I replay the original saga once every few years and damn I love all 3 games but halo CE keeps being the most simple/awesome game of all 3. I remember my first time and how it made my love this franchise till this day so easily
The Flood is one of the most effective twists in gaming. The way it was built up felt like a horror game.
Just finished playing the Half Life series and diving full on into the halo series. Combat Evolved has to be a game that also changed my way of what modern games should be.
When I first got the master cheif collection I was horrified of 343 guilty spark I refused to go any further (it still scares me a little)
Halo CE had a lot of wide and uncluttered hallways, which really gave a sense of grandeur. Halo 2 and Halo 3 made everything narrow and crowded.
That Christmas 2001 was tremendous.
And halo CE was the cherry on the cake.
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WELL SAID! The mystery of Halo CE is why I love that game more than any other game!
1st place be a LANDSLIDE with a controversial halo 5 in 2nd place
I grew up with Halo and don't regret it one bit...but I kind of wish halo came out today so I could experience it fresh as an adult, and so I can discover the flood with modern graphics and mechanics
Halo: CE is honestly one of the greatest games of all time. So good. It honestly never gets old for me no matter how many times i replay it. A Certified Classic
Seeing all the flickering and what not reminds me how buggy the MCC version (Gearbox PC port) of CE is. There's an Easter Egg in this mission where you can stay on the Pelican at the beginning of the mission and it'll fly you around to another part of the map where you can run around on top of the hilly area that serves as the boundary for the level. Eventually you'll find a marine up there that just stands there and does nothing. I you watch newer videos on this Easter Egg they'll say that if you stare at the marine long enough that his eyeball will start protruding from his head and you can see that happen in the videos. But this doesn't happen in the OG Xbox version of the game (the marine is there but his eye won't protrude from his head), only in the MCC version (and I assume CE Anniversary since both are based on the Gearbox PC port). It's just another MCC bug. Anyway, just thought I'd share that. Great video though, I enjoyed it.
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Thiv video is gonna blow up.
7:07, I dont think 343 GS ends when all of your marines die, it ends when the sentinels die
The sentinels are allies, but yes. At the time of recording this, I didn't know if it was both the sentinels and marines or just the sentinels.
As a little kid, i thought it was sawed off, like a shotgun without a stock xD
I was one of those kids that didn’t play the library because it was scary
3:02 rip lol
Made me a gamer back in 2001
This is my favorite Halo game.
Still my favorite, it's the full package.
Halo CE is the kind of game I can always play anytime. I love Halo.
Just something to note Halo Combat Evolved or some know as Halo 1 Combat Evolved or just Halo 1. On MCC is not the same experience on the original Xbox. As MCC is using a now modified Gearbox port of Halo CE. It's significantly better than the original gear port but still has its issues but definitely getting closer to that original looks, sound, scripting. Pacing etc.
343 actually fixed a lot of the gearbox port issues like giant Cortana being able to change colors again and the return of the fog on two betrayals along with many others
I'm sure every 10-year-old discovering the flood for the first time reacted like James woods in Scary movie 2 when the girl twists her head 360 degrees. XD
To me, Cortana using British slang was her method of mocking Guilty Spark. Even though he doesn’t have a British accent, the manner of how he speaks almost comes across as a proper English butler.
Which makes sense considering he is a sort of servant and caretaker to the ring.
I know Cortana was originally written to have an English accent but most of the dialogue didn’t have British slang until TB. The only other example I can think of is the very end of the game when Halo is destroyed she says to Chief: “Fancy a look?”
I played halo 1 and halo 2 back to back and had to delete them for memeory, gotta say, halo ce is the one im leaning towards downloading again.
Did you want cortana to say “fuck off” instead?
It sure hasn't made an effect in the last 4 MONTHS I CAN TELL YA THAT!
(MCC updated 4 months ago and Halo CE to this day has a memory dump issue that isn't resolved. 10 minutes of play used up 27 gigs of RAM and the frame rate crawls. Legacy graphics help VERY temporarily. Shutting the game down locks your processor up and it can take up to 10 minutes afterward to drain all the used memory back to idle levels)
To be fair, it's a 22 year old game on an ancient engine.
your PC issue, i've never had any problems
@@Zealot_cs It was a December MCC update that caused the issue. Whole reddit threads about it with replies and updates from developer staff (I originally said Microsoft, but that's not their responsibility). Replies and updates went dark 3 months ago.
playing flood mission for new players its scary
If in the near future I could find a way to erase certain part of my memories, i'd delete the memory of Halo CE everyday to replay it. Period.
0:44 That's hilarious and sad.
So hard to explain to new players why they should play this game without spoiling anything. The whole appeal is in the discovery.
You're right, it left a lasting impression on me. As the weakest Halo part. Drawn out levels, repetitive level designs, incredibly slow pacing, inaccurate weaponry, random explosions, sudden difficulty spikes (library, anyone?). Halo 2 is a better Halo CE and I'd recommend anyone to skip the first Halo entirely. The mystery factor you proclaim that makes it great is not worth it in exchange for one of the worst gameplay experiences I had in the last decade as a first time player.
Man i always tried to keep the marines alive at the end of 343.
I played it for the first time. This game is great, reminds me a lot of Half-Life. I don't know why i haven't played this series earlier. And funny how old graphics is just better, i ended up playing with it, new one looks really generic and i have zero bias or nostalgia factor.
The only impression it gave me was pain. It was so repetitive.
(I bought the master chief collection two days ago to relive old times, what better way to spend time while having covid being stuck in my room).
It took me a day to beat CE, and most of the time it was so repetitive and long, the Library was the WORST most repetitive mission of CE. Nonetheless, story is fun, guns are fun, vehicles fun. Good game.
"Sod off" is British slang for f*** you. Cortana was going to be British but that changed later in development.
One thing I hated about the sequels of Halo 2 is how they were graphically downgraded from CE. If Halo 2 could have had the exact same graphics as CE but its new content, I'd have been content.
It had to be good to be impressive, new games only have to look good to be recognized
Good video, but I think you spent too much time retelling the story and not enough time on saying why CE leaves a lasting impression on new players
I ❤Cortana.
What do you mean "whats she talking about?". When speaking about Cortana saying "sod off". shes just saying sod off, nothing more nothing less. You ask that like she meant something, it really doesn't.
Tbh i love this game more than COD. But i hate the library more than the CoD Infinity Warfare
ik this is irrelevant but like imo two best game franchises are Halo and MGS for me
People playing halo ce for the first time now would find the game repetitive, boring, and terrible to look at. It would ruin their expectations and turn them off from playing any others.
Just finished it, oh boy i was happy that it was finally over. Worst level design i have ever seen. I basically forced myself to finish it.
I found halo 3, despite how cool the game is, underwhelming in the weapons sandbox which is a huge turn off for me.
Halo 2 was a blast, but the campaign is a frustrating horrible exp on legendary
Halo 1 was not as pretty, but frankly the sound was the best. The game felt faster and more lethal to me😊