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Did Jay Z steal their flow? What Happened to Camp Lo?
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- Can an artist fall off if he never truly took off?? That’s a question of the ages and the rap duo we are discussing today should give you; if not an answer to that question; then at least a better understanding of the concept. Camp Lo is a rap duo composed of Geechi Suede and Sonny Cheeba; most well known for their debut album hits Luchini AKA This Is It and Coolie High.
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Real Hiphop supporters don't care about billboard charts . Camp Lo is underground legends that never sold their soul to be mainstream .
Yes! Tired of people using “album sales” to win a argument, when has hip hop been an popularity contest
@@ILoveTheAllCreator exactly
preach, nice video but he's talking about flopped and fell off, nonsense.
Correct
@@ILoveTheAllCreator right
Their first album is a damn classic
Yes yes..I still bang it!
yes
@@cwhetstone1554 I promise
🎵🎶🎶🎶🎵🎵🎵🎵🎶🎶🎶🎵🎶🎶💯💯💯💯💯
They also put out an album of demos and outtakes from that album called On The Way Uptown a few years back, and I swear it's just as good as Uptown Saturday Night. I still support these cats to this day, but the stuff they were doing back in that era was a whole other level!
Uptown Saturday Night will forever be a classic
FACTZ!!
WORD LIFE
yes
Word up🔥🔥
I second this motion.
One of the most underrated groups in rap history! They were waaaay ahead of their time…from their style, slang and delivery. In my opinion Uptown Saturday Night is one of greatest rap albums ever made and I still bang it like it came out yesterday. They still dropping good music just gotta dig a bit but it’s out there.
my clean up muic album. sparkly
“Ahead of their time…” I hear you on that but I have to disagree. If Camp Lo would’ve dropped in the era right before gangster rap they would’ve gained more traction. If they would’ve dropped in the era with the Brand Nubians, Jungle Brothers, X Clan, Flava Unit, etc. Gangster rap killed everything that wasn’t gangster.
@@antdel33 I can respect that perspective or point of view…and actually can see what you’re saying. But honestly I’m biased lol as their one of my favorite groups ever. But in terms of style and delivery at that time nobody looked or sounded like them. In a time when originality meant everything in hip hop they definitely stood alone. But again great perspective brother.
@@UntouchaBLU_1914 Camp Lo is them dudes tho - I’m not taking anything away from them. I tripped when I learned Jay Z took Sonny’s style.
@@antdel33 Man when I seen that interview with Doggy Diamonds it absolutely blew my mind. Sonny has always be favorite of the two.
I think Anderson Paak Needs to gather these two and produce them to give them the sound they're rooted from and play it live to update them.
That's a good idea 💡
Remember Tiz said it first! That sounds like a monsta colab bro.
Matter fact. Him and bruno
I've Seen An Interview On Doggie Diamonds Channel Where They Asked One Of The Members Who They'd Like To Work With And He Mentioned Anderson Paak, He Said He's Really Feeling His Music.👑
Perfect match
Camp Lo had crazy swag, and the whole 70’s vibes was just on a different level. Sonny Cheeba’s voice sounded like something out of a movie. Still my top 5 best Hip Hop songs of all time.
Facts💯
Luchini blew me away when It came out. I was like 12, it's probably my favorite Hip-hop song... Period! They definitely was pioneers as far as music, and fashion. I wish them brothers nothing but the best.
(They got a song with Tyler Woods I really like too)
I was 14 and my brother kept playing it so I became intrigued.
Yes indeed it's called caught up I just played it 2 days ago myself
@@dnerosparta4944 that's my shyt!!!
That ski beat was sick.😷
Literally blew me away fr . Very hard song
This is it. WHAT! Luchini pourin from the sky. Let's get rich. WHAT! The feels I get when that song plays🙌🏾✨️
I rock it till this day
I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE THE DAY SOMEONE COVER THESE GUYS!!!!!! THE DIAMOND LIFE IS TRIFF!!!!!
Diamond Life is my shit!!!!
I said the same shit. It's like nobody cared about them. I'm so glad someone covered them finally .
Jay Z has been 'covering' them his whole career 🤣
" Luccini" is a timeless classic .that whole debut album is a classic...look up the video for their song " You"...they never lost a step but Ski who worked with and was a member of Original Flavor as well as Cru ...gave away the instrumentals to their sophmore album to Jay Z and he created what would become " Reasonable Doubt"...that story is legendary in Hip Hop history!
No lies detected. It’s like all of that unfolded in right in front of me. I remember being in college in NC and use to see Jay Z in the mid 90’s on campus and not even be bothered. People barely knew who he was. Biggie use to do the same, but it was different for him as he was huge then(literally and figuratively). I was looking at legends during the golden age of hip hop!
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Camp Lo's music is a small market segment of listeners which is perfectly fine. We have to remember when it comes to music and hip hop specifically every artist is not going to be a megastar for their music to be meaningful to the genre or listeners. Camp Lo's music and influence play a significant part in hip-hop and should be celebrated. Great video Ali!
camp lo and digable planet it got no better than that that's the way we used to dress back in the mid 80s and yes we all sipped on amaretto Good times
Exactly! Well said! I hate when they are called underrated......underrated by who? Those who have an ear for their music love and rate them high.
As long as they can do what they do and make a nice living it’s all good
90s baby who still listens to Camp Lo
Camp Lo was WAYYY before their time. One of my favorite groups and severely underrated.
yea,cold as ice
They are a perfect version of hip hop. Truly unique. They made the genre “cool” & slick.
Don't care about ratings or underratings but these guys are one of the greatest rap duos of all time. Creativity, unique flows, great tracks and fly personalities OF THEIR OWN. Top notch!! 💥💥
That part!
That’s y I rock to these cats til this day👏
All facts
"Coolie High" is top 20 beats of all-time. Possibly top 10.
And "sparkle"
They birthed so many styles...from Lupe to Spitta
agreed son
Facts 💯💪🏿
Geechi Suede still puts out quality music
yes
Indeed
So does Camp Lo as a group in 2022.
They both do my brother
Their first album is a CLASSIC 💯💯💯 I liked how they were so different from every act out during their peak.
I’ve seen them live at BB KINGS NYC back in 2017‼️… When I tell you they STILL can put on a performance and rock a stage like it was 1996‼️….
They had a FLOW with a style no one can duplicate, replicate,or originate‼️
🏆🏆👉🏽👨🏽👨🏾🗣️🎵🎶
And what’s crazy is that they try to go solo. Hell naw, those boyz together are a hell of a 1-2 punch like KID N PLAY. Just my take
I would see the anytime
Camp Lo’s “Coolie High” remains a staple on every rap playlist I make to this very day. I don’t need them to be on top of the charts. They’re underground gems out here for hip hop fans who put in the effort to find great music…and there are MANY of us!✊🏾
Yo! You stay dropping stories I didn’t know I wanted to hear! These guys are legendary, much respect
These dudes music was a little more mature than most kids was listening to and that's exactly why I liked them. That's also what was cool about the 90s rap scene everybody didn't have to rap about the same stuff with the same style, creativity was a MF back then.
Yes we definitely had a variety in the 90s and that's what I miss the most about it. You could be different if you wanted to as long as you had Talent he didn't have to follow a certain outline
@@UrbanAlchemystic 💯👍🏽
I always like the more offbeat cats back then too everybody was just too fucking hard and these dudes made you want to sit back and chill with your people I have a fresh ass party
Camp Lo was hard... Good music comes in era. All hip hop that dropped in 96-97 was hitting.
It still hits the same way it did in the low 90's
My NIGGAS!! CAMP LO!!!!!!! UPTOWN SATURDAY NIGHT is still a classic even after 25 years!!!! PREACH!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
Luchini is an absolute banger!!
I listen to it all the time it just gets me hyped...
Reminds me of guess who's back by Ra it gets me in that same spot..
These guys have some of the best flows I've heard. They were very ahead of their time.
They named their albums after Sindey Poitier/Bill Cosby movies. If you haven't watched "Uptown Saturday Night," "Let's Do It Again," and "A Piece Of The Action" I highly recommend them.
Facts 💯
They never submitted to the gangster stereotype and were not willing to compromise for success. supremely talented. I don't even think they were promoted properly. Most of us didn't even know about any of the music they put out after Uptown Saturday Night. They just didn't fit what the industry was trying to sell to the kids back then and even now.
CLASS ACT!!! Luchini still brings me chills every X I hear it & they still make you feel what’s missing in hip hop as a genre
I'll be honest. They sounded GREAT! My "gripe" with them is that while they're flow was immaculate, I had no idea what they were talking about cause they were SO lingo'd up. I feel the same way about a lot of the Wu as well, though Lo had the better flow
Just have to think about it wasn't too crazy other rappers burned blunts they steamed the Vega
Vibe music before vibe music.
@@Eliburgo
Exactly, if you were familiar with East Coast hip hop everybody had their lingo. That was the beauty of the replayability. I still catch lines from 25 years ago! 🤣🤣🤣
That kind of music is meant to elevate your mind and soul.
Interesting perspective
Very underrated Rap Duo Camp Lo was the truth and there music still legendary
One of their downfalls isn’t because of them. It’s the majority of rap fans today wasn’t born in the 70’ and on that note they don’t appreciate the style. Furthermore they would even get it. If the rhyme scheme isn’t “cat in the hat” style they won’t listen cause it will make their heads hurt to decipher what their talking about.
Exactly!
I remember waiting for a bus at 34th Street,(Manhattan, N.Y.). It was September of 96 and I was on my way to Job Corps,(Glenmont, Albany). A guy came up to me with a white cassette tape. It was a promotional tape with one song on each side. I listened to that tape the whole entire ride and put many on to them up there. I had the biggest crush on Sony Cheeba. Those were the days!!!!😇🙏❤️👍🤗
Camp Lo still puts out good music presently and haven't dropped off in skill level at all. Pretty remarkable.
The 90's where rough for rap and hip hop WHAT!! Those were the golden ages.
I'mma say this I love this video but I'm going to be honest camp lo was Outkast competition for a brief second Outkast had Laface behind them a machine that's exactly what camp lo needed. Camp needed a major label that would have pushed them very very strong. A major label would not allow them to leave for five years camp lo would have been a real good act for Elektra records for numerous reason. Only if we could have got an outkast and Camp lo track or Camp and red and Method Man track. Camp lo flow and style would allow them to do tracks with 8Ball and MJG to be honest there limits was not push in the prime of their career.
A lot people favor Luchini as their best song but for me it will always be Coolie High..
Sparkle, bubblin
The whole cassette tape was the truth
Black Connection!!!
I still play Camp Lo's Uptown Saturday Night album... Luchini will forever bang for me.
You left out a lot and didn’t mention how iconic these brothers are amongst their peers. Legends frfr
The video version of coolie high was way better than the original
I've been a fan since almost the beginning, and over the years I have discovered a couple things about Camp Lo. They either don't know how or don't have any desire to be "successful". There is one part of me that thinks they very much enjoy being underground, because they themselves are huge fans of true Hip-hop. It seems to me that they make music more for themselves than for the public. Now on the other hand sometimes I think they just don't know how to market themselves. They could very easily build up a cult following again and release limited edition vinyl and cassettes as well as some well designed merch on a site like Bandcamp. I guarantee they would make money. But that would require them to commit to releasing music on a semi regular basis. But they just haven't been in that mode for the last few years. I keep holding out hope that they will come together again and really work hard on a new album. I miss that heist music.
They definitely would have PAYING FANS!
They really ain't been taking no musical breaks tho yo. It's just thaat the music's been under the radar...and if u listen to their catalog throughout the years, you won't be disappointed
Besides Ghostface and Raekeon, Camp Lo were the only guys spitting that lingo that needs deciphering
Go listen to “Black Jesus” by Camp Lo thank me later
They aint ready🔥🔥🔥...I was rockin that the other day...
They are definitely legends in my book it gave those of us who were not trying to be “gangsta” something cool to listen to back in the day and sonny Chiba was a beast with the flow.
Cheebah had the better voice inflection on the mic while Seude flow in motion complemented the poetry in motion auditing from Sonny Cheebah. But 👌
Also you forgot to mention their Japan EP “Short Eyes” which a crazy dope song called “Sunkiss”.
Their single “Disco-Tec” from DJ Honda album.
They was on a record label Loud/Simulated around 2001. The label dropped a compilation album which featured 2 songs from Camp Lo. On the same label they dropped a single Trouble Man on the A side and Cookers on the B side
You forgot Suede had a project with a producer called Apple juice kid. Under the name FreeBass 808.
You forgot their appearance on people’s albums through the years. One being a Rick Ross project
Last thing, Sonny Cheeba has a BIG HIT with The Avalanches that is featured in commercials worldwide.
I don’t play with my favorite rap group dawg. But I would say the reason they never blew up is because of the hot lost in the shuffle of Profile merged with Arista. They really played into the 70s style, heavy NY Slang and complex lyrics. If with all of that Luchini is timeless and always resurfaces
Do one on LITTLE BROTHER
You are watching ubn😂
Do a video on the groups Original Flavor and Fu-Schnickens
My favorite hip-hop group of all time. There is not one group like. So different in all aspects legendary in my book. It was difficult to obtain their albums however over the years I finally have most of them. I wish they didn't switch to the electric sound in the latter years but still a day one fan. To describe Camp Lo they rap 60's, 70's, 80's styles and so forth with a unique swag incredibly underrated...
Favorite hip hop of t group of all time? Over mobb, kast, nwa, wu, etc?
@deshaun dozier I know right? But hey, to each his own.
The album let's do it again is dope and slept on. High quality production. That track soul Train is amazing and typical cap lo.
Sooo underrated.. people stole their style and everything- That damn was a classic!
Camp Lo is over most peoples head. The way they rhyme and dress.
They are one of my favorite lesser known hip hop duos. Their Uptown Saturday night album is a cult classic. It's too bad that they never had any real label support for their music. I'm glad to see that they still are at it. I saw them a few years ago and they still have it.
The fact that they are still dropping some heat 🔥 til this day. Go get it, it's out there.
"HOUSTON WE HAVE A WHT CAMP LO"!!!!! Damn Ali this made my day keep up the great work fr👍🏿!!!! Now we need a WHT I-20 from DTP!
yes he did
As I always say, Hip Hop is a popularity contest. Instead of supporting so many awesome talents of the 90s like Camp-Lo. The majority of fans were more concerned on mainstream cats & gossip.
The industry NEVER wants GREATNESS!!! Only trash. Camp Lo will always be one of my favorite Hip-Hop groups of All-Time.
I was a model/actor back in NY when my agent called with two bookings- one was for a music video and the other a shoot for Vogue magazine. I had just shot a video for Mic Geronimo and my agent never told me who the artist was so I chose the Vogue shoot. I was soooo pissed when I later learned the video was for Camp Lo's Luchini. It's still one of my favorite songs and video but that's one of my biggest regrets.
Dope video Camp Lo fan falife💪🏽🔥
Uptown Saturday is a classic that I still listen to till this day. I randomly picked up the cassette when it dropped, because I liked the cover art. I was 13 at the time and was BLOWN AWAY when I popped it in. I've purchased that album so many times in my life-time. Truly underrated artists.
That 70s themed music was the most unique thing going at the time 🔥
Because it is group they got me in the sampling Luchini samples adventures in the land of music by Dynasty
Do the luniz next
Your so on point with your info thank you for shedding light on one of the most underrated duos in music history
Sonny Cheeba had some dope verses in The Avalanches "Because I'm me" track most recently 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Camp Lo = pure unadulterated dopeness!!!
They still put out music in 2023 as a group and solo (Geechi Suede). And perform as a group all over America.
I love Camp Lo. I still have their first CD and they are on my Apple playlist!!
Wow..... so Coop from According 2 Hip Hop was right! Damn bro, looking at the dramatic change to Jay-z flow from being with Jaz-O to Reasonable Doubt.... it makes sense.
5:23 In 2010 Ski Beatz said to Complex about the song Feelin' It "That was my song! It was a song I was working on for my album at the time. It was me and Suede from Camp Lo rapping on it. I was happy about the song so I ran up in Dame’s house and Jay was there. I played it for them and they got the mad frown face, bopping they head, like, 'This is dope!' Then Jay was like, 'You know you gotta give me that song right?' I was like, 'What do you mean? I just did this song!' He was like, 'Come on B, I need that for my album. You know we’re working on this album. Give me that beat, I want that hook too.' He took the beat, the hook, and the flow too! Which was cool, it wasn’t like he didn't ask me for it. He didn’t jack it. He told me he was going to do it. The thing with Mecca [was] she sung the hook. She got paid for singing, obviously. But I wrote the hook for the song. I guess the people that she was dealing with got in her ear and made her think she wrote the song and that she deserved all the publishing and that burned the bridge for what we was doing. They definitely wanted to work with her but it never got that far."
Why yeen do the split sheets right after dropping a reference? And how did suede feel about you hand delivering y'all's hit to jay and dame without even copyrighting it? Duh. Are you saying that you did this often?
Still bumping luccini
Camp Lo was one of my favorite groups.Crazy underrated I think.Their flow was ill,they had crazy swag and they was just mad unique.
INCREDIBLE duo, every project that came after the debut are Bangin', Always support these brothas, one of my favorite groups of all time
I still got the album 🔥🔥🔥
5:02 No one calls them Jayoncé. That was just weird
We was on them here in NC. They performed down here alot
There is always a moment in life that you will turn to Camp Lo. They are timeless in my opinion. They are like Wu tang, but in a different vibe but with the same hiphop relevance. they are important to our culture.
Kid n Play in my opinion sparked these catz existence 😊
Well !!! Even though they had lots of flops. One thing I admire is at least they are consistent and obviously love what they do. It's a lesson to be learned in this video keep pushing no matter how bad it seems.
When I first heard Camp Lo in the 1990s, the first thing I thought was OutKast+Souls of Myscheif+with a swagger flow.
Camp Lo should had solid backing from their record labels and in some cases, a slightly better record producer. I could have definitely see Camp Lo & Jermaine Dupri doing some music together.
Uptown Saturday Night was absolutely legend. Thanks for even bringing them up, the actual FIRST Concert I ever went to!
Yep this is my little secret high,when am feeling down,I just reach for my camp lo collection.
My little bro and I love this group. It’s an absolute shame they didn’t make it big time. They could rap their ass off bro.
My dad pmo to coolie high been on repeat he knows the words for this is it and jus lit up you cud see this is truly apart of his time I’m grateful he shared that with me music connects us all great video he was asking me what happened to them no i have a slight answer ❤
Still listen to that album to this day!
luccini, black connection, world heist, and coolie high were songs I was raised on.
I remember hearing luchini for the first time and there was no doubt in anybody’s mind that we’d never heard anything like them. Truly unique and original at the time. I was in middle school at the time and all of us were obsessed 😂
Creative artist waayyyyyyb4 their time. The record labels weren't way behind when it came to real creativity n music
Luchini was and is still lit🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mane I was in 10th grade 16 years old when this came out. I went crazy everybody went crazy when we heard this cd. Good days
Luchini will always be my jam. The dark man from camp Lo and Jay’s voice do sound similar.
I love Camp Lo
Camp Lo wanted the beat from Jay-Z's song Politics As Usual. Ski Beatz said "I had done Politics As Usual for Jay-Z, but Camp Lo wanted the beat because of the horns. And they was like, 'Yo how you gonna give that beat to Jay-Z? What about us? You always giving Jay the dope beats!'"
and Jay used his flow on those beats
@@eyeamblizz3744 That's on the song Feelin' It where Jay-Z used Ski Beatz flow. Ski Beatz said "That was my song! It was a song I was working on for my album at the time. It was me and Suede from Camp Lo rapping on it. I was happy about the song so I ran up in Dame’s house and Jay was there. I played it for them and they got the mad frown face, bopping they head, like, 'This is dope!' Then Jay was like, 'You know you gotta give me that song right?' I was like, 'What do you mean? I just did this song!' He was like, 'Come on B, I need that for my album. You know we’re working on this album. Give me that beat, I want that hook too.' He took the beat, the hook, and the flow too! Which was cool, it wasn’t like he didn't ask me for it. He didn’t jack it. He told me he was going to do it."
Camp lo was one of the illest groups hands down
my top 5 rap groups you made my day with this one
camp lo is underrated
Luchini is their best song 😎
I didn’t know they even dropped anymore albums but I’m definitely gonna look for it
They dropped an album in 2015, the song bubblin is one if my fav camp lo songs
They style was All over the late 90’s and early 00’s. The best rappers alive borrowed style from the camp. Geechi still the flyest since big daddy Kane
In 2010 to Complex, Ski Beatz said "The thing for everybody I was working with...Biggie heard Luchini and he was like, 'Come on, man, I need a beat from you.' Once Jay heard it, he was like, 'Come on, man, what the fuck?' [But when] Camp Lo heard Who You Wit, they was like, 'Damn!' Matter of fact, I did a song for Nature called Ultimate High and Jay was like, 'Yo, you know that was my beat. You know you should have gave me that beat.' And to this day he still wants to rap to that beat. Jay loves that track. We was about to redo the beat, but we never got to do it."
Camel was always jacking styles.
Ski worked with Curren$y a lot during the start of that Jet Set indie EP wave !
They left classic material and that's all you really wanna do as an artist at the end of the day. Money is cool but the art lives forever
Luccini!!! This is it whaaaaaat 🔥