April Wine - Just Between You And Me | REACTION

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Komentáře • 352

  • @dougmoulton6420
    @dougmoulton6420 Před 6 měsíci +83

    This was mine and my wifes first dance at our wedding. She passed away in June, so all i can say is thank you for this and your reaction to this song

  • @patticampana9458
    @patticampana9458 Před 6 měsíci +40

    This was my best friend's favorite song. She passed away from cancer, 2 month's ago. They played this at her funeral. I cried so hard!!! Thank you for honoring her memory, even though you didn't know you were. Stay healthy!✌️

  • @toddashton9696
    @toddashton9696 Před 5 měsíci +33

    Thanks for this reaction guys. April Wine was part of the soundtrack of my youth.
    RIP Myles.

  • @divetank
    @divetank Před 2 měsíci +24

    Canadians felt the passing of Myles Goodwin deeply. A national icon. We’re a small country and he meant the world to us.

  • @user-xj7wo1ny3e
    @user-xj7wo1ny3e Před 4 měsíci +19

    I'm from Halifax, Nova Scotia. I've seen April Wine six or seven times now and they've been extraordinary every time. I've had the pleasure to meet each member of the band on several occasions and I can tell you that they are as awesome in person as they are on stage. Myles Goodwyn was a sweetheart through and through. We'll miss him dearly.

  • @SuperDoomspoon
    @SuperDoomspoon Před 6 měsíci +75

    Thank You Guys!!! RIP Myles Goodwin!🙏🤟

  • @pettycamp
    @pettycamp Před 6 měsíci +90

    RIP Myles. One of my favourite musicians - a truly underrated gem. And thank you to "Views From the 502" for giving these songs more exposure. So good.

  • @bradkoski
    @bradkoski Před 6 měsíci +16

    Myles, such a humble rock legend who should’ve gotten more recognition along with the Band…….very underrated

  • @stefanycrawford2884
    @stefanycrawford2884 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I owned this album... Haven't heard this song for over 30 years and I sang every word...💣

  • @karensingh2020
    @karensingh2020 Před 6 měsíci +14

    couldnt hold my tears! just an amazing rock voice RIP

  • @gloriaduenez2080
    @gloriaduenez2080 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Some songs will pierce your heart and touch your soul and make you feel and bring out emotions whether you are going through something or not.
    There are so many great songs out there but very few that can touch your soul.

  • @rrichards146
    @rrichards146 Před 4 měsíci +7

    The perfect guitar solo for a perfect song

  • @mars856
    @mars856 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Great reaction guys. I grew up with April Wine. Brings back some great memories. We were lucky to have so many great bands in Canada during those times. Appreciate your heartfelt analysis.

  • @johnwyatt9193
    @johnwyatt9193 Před 6 měsíci +45

    The words are sometimes hard too find. The silence can be so unkind... Rip Myles, thanks for the sounds of my youth.😢

  • @alchemy-oi8xf
    @alchemy-oi8xf Před 6 měsíci +44

    So glad Myles lived long enough to get the accolades you mentioned at the begining of the reaction. You both did a super job on this one, guys.

  • @46lurtz
    @46lurtz Před 4 měsíci +6

    such a tasteful solo, not too long and overwrought. Love my memories of the '80s!

  • @nflr92
    @nflr92 Před 6 měsíci +17

    Every time one of my favorite musicians from when I was a teen passes away, it reminds me how my time is on its way. In my mind, I'm a 14 year old kid who can easily bring to mind watching April Wine on Don Kirshner's Rock Concert playing Roller and Sign of the Gypsy Queen with interviews of Myles and the band mixed in.

  • @ricwilson6262
    @ricwilson6262 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I got to meet Myles and Mr. Mercer after a concert in Mpls. Stood in the front row and rocked word for word on the whole playlist. After, I actually sat in their limo for 45 minutes talkin about life and they were so human. My idols, but so down to earth and so caring. Changed my whole outlook on rock and roll idols. A forever memory for sure. RIP Myles ❤

  • @fantasyguru26
    @fantasyguru26 Před 6 měsíci +11

    April Wine is a Canadian treasure. One of the very best rock bands we produced. RIP Myles. Awesome tribute reaction. I really wish more Americans got to hear these guys in their heyday.

  • @timfoster5334
    @timfoster5334 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Love this reaction. Music is a gift from God that helps us experience things on a heightened level. This band is the definition of underrated. I regret never seeing them in concert back in the day.

  • @whodat3700
    @whodat3700 Před 6 měsíci +12

    My favorite Canadian band and I'm Canadian. I can't help but think that if they were American and had a big label behind them that they would have been huge. Thanks for covering them guys. Loved your review of roller. One of my favorites.

  • @jodifox2283
    @jodifox2283 Před 6 měsíci +11

    Please do "I like to Rock" by April Wine. Thank you for the great reaction guys. ❤ RIP Myles Goodwin 😢 great voice and excellent guitar player. "Enough is Enough" is a good song. Love wine 🍷 all of it.

  • @davidroyston1918
    @davidroyston1918 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Thank you for the reaction. Not too many people know about April Wine. If there's anything out there on the 80's group, ASIA & Billy Squire, check them out. Amazing music.

  • @kurules3072
    @kurules3072 Před 2 měsíci +4

    What a perfect reaction. Thank you for justifying all of us April Wine lovers

  • @Willie_McBride
    @Willie_McBride Před 6 měsíci +6

    Such a different song than Roller, or my personal favorite from April Wine, Sign of a the Gypsy Queen. Great reaction fellas!!!’

  • @bradkoski
    @bradkoski Před 6 měsíci +5

    April Wine never went cheap……love ‘em❤️❤️❤️

  • @davidedwards3838
    @davidedwards3838 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Every school dance when i was a kid. This was played for the slow dance.

  • @cigsbutt
    @cigsbutt Před 4 měsíci +8

    I grew up in Halifax and was lucky enough to have April Wine play at my high school dances .I could never understand why they weren't bigger in the States. Great reaction. It makes think that had they gotten more playtime down there, they would have been big.

  • @memorylane7068
    @memorylane7068 Před 6 měsíci +9

    Love April Wine!!! Always remembering Myles.

  • @MrPublicPain
    @MrPublicPain Před 2 měsíci +8

    Telling your girl you won't cheat, you trust her and your love will last forever. When I was 13 we waltzed to this...... ah... so sweet

  • @chriscollesano8463
    @chriscollesano8463 Před 6 měsíci +8

    I was lucky enough to grow up near the Canadian border. So you would get a lot of Canadian radio stations. Q107, 977 hits fm, CFNY. A lot of great Canadian bands we would hear, where the more south you go the less you’d hear. This song reminds me of our youth, going to the mall, cruising or sitting at a park late at night with all our friends. This was a break up or love tune for the one you thought was going to last, when it usually ended in heartbreak.

  • @peggypatche6342
    @peggypatche6342 Před 6 měsíci +9

    I have been a fan of "April Wine" since the late '70s when I was a young teenager. My two favorite albums are "Harder Faster" & "Nature of the Beast." They had pure talent ! RIP Myles, you were one in a million.

  • @LitByFireflies
    @LitByFireflies Před 6 měsíci +11

    I had the privilege of seeing Myles perform 2 years ago and his vocals were still absolutely golden. He was a gem of a human being too. So glad you got to hear this special song and thank you so much for introducing your audience to April Wine.

  • @snave59
    @snave59 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I have listened to this song hundreds of times,when I was younger.

  • @ronstewart6362
    @ronstewart6362 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I was a bit young when that came out but I had 2 older bros that were music fanatics ( musicians). April wine were Never huge but they had a run of hits I remember in the late 70s and early 80s. I remember this album being played Alot growing up. Always liked them👍

  • @Siggi395
    @Siggi395 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Sad to see Myles passing... as a 17 year old high schooler in the 70s, spent many a nights in the pool hall "air guitaring" all the April Wine songs.
    WHEW!!!!... glad I'm over that stage. 😞🙏🙏

  • @pleasantvalleypickerca7681
    @pleasantvalleypickerca7681 Před 6 měsíci +7

    April Wine have many great songs.

  • @elmoomle4565
    @elmoomle4565 Před měsícem +3

    "Say Hello" is another GREAT tune from April Wine.
    Great reaction guys!

  • @jethro1963
    @jethro1963 Před 6 měsíci +9

    To those who are saying his death wasn't in the news in the US, his obit was in the NY Times

  • @stevetanner3019
    @stevetanner3019 Před 6 měsíci +6

    First band I ever saw live, at the age of 10. Changed my life.

  • @timhossack6837
    @timhossack6837 Před 6 měsíci +38

    You're reaction was perfect...you're reaction to their song "roller " is still one of my favorite reactions ever

    • @dp67dl93
      @dp67dl93 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Mine too

    • @kevinjennings238
      @kevinjennings238 Před 6 měsíci +1

      YES! These Guys "Get It"!!! Other Reactors that Also Appreciate Great Rock are "Andy & Alex"!

  • @timelkins3537
    @timelkins3537 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Underrated songwriter on an underrated band. RIP Myles. Thanks for all the memories. 😢

  • @zoeslovely7096
    @zoeslovely7096 Před měsícem +6

    The BEST reaction guys! Thank you for loving Canadian music ❤ This one hits hard, let the emotions flow. Love your channel.

  • @Sawdoff2
    @Sawdoff2 Před 6 měsíci +31

    Great reaction my guys. No shame in showing emotion either. That song I heard seeing them in concert. It was really a small venue and I still, some 40+ years later, remember where I was standing and everyone just became quiet and total focused on them. It was great. RIP Myles🙏

  • @scottkrentz7266
    @scottkrentz7266 Před 6 měsíci +34

    Great reaction. This was one of my favorite songs and bands back in the 80s. Still is. RIP Myles. 😢

    • @davidedwards3838
      @davidedwards3838 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I don't know, mate. He was inducted into the songwriters' Hall of Fame here in Canada. In his own country, he wasn't underrated.

  • @timhossack6837
    @timhossack6837 Před 6 měsíci +15

    One of my favorite bands growing up..RIP

  • @user-ze7mj6xj6q
    @user-ze7mj6xj6q Před 6 měsíci +8

    What a beautiful song and a lovely reaction guys!! I could listen to this over again. RIP Myles Goodwin 🌹💐

  • @Mr2012Ultra
    @Mr2012Ultra Před 6 měsíci +12

    I’ve got something stuck in my eye… honestly, a very heartfelt reaction to Myles passing. I grew up here in Canada and they were one of my favourite bands. Saw them 15+ times and they were always rocking on. RIP Myles.

  • @kevinwilson28
    @kevinwilson28 Před 6 měsíci +5

    This song is on our wedding CD. Awesome tune!

  • @kenhutchingame2606
    @kenhutchingame2606 Před 6 měsíci +8

    One of the most underrated voices and bands in music. As a Canadian, I've followed this band since I was a kid. R.I.P Myles.

  • @DRiver-vl3um
    @DRiver-vl3um Před 5 měsíci +5

    I'm a Canadian who grew up with their music in the 70's and 80's.
    Saw them live a couple of times. Myles was such a gifted writer and musician.
    Thank you for sharing.

  • @RockinMamaT
    @RockinMamaT Před měsícem +3

    This was played at every school dance from grade 6 to High school graduation. Love love love this song.❤ Peace out ✌️ ☮️

  • @kathiek4239
    @kathiek4239 Před 6 měsíci +3

    This has been on my favorite song list since it came out. I put it on mixed tapes back in the day. The melody, the voice, the lyrics all tug at my heart.

  • @MotleySchuh
    @MotleySchuh Před 6 měsíci +17

    April Wine was my first concert in 1982 and this was my high school girlfriend and my song. Hits hard.

  • @BClarke
    @BClarke Před 6 měsíci +4

    Truly one of my all-time favorite songs. Loved it since I was a kid watching the video on early MTV.

  • @gringosagucio4548
    @gringosagucio4548 Před 6 měsíci +5

    It makes me cry, too.

  • @jethro1963
    @jethro1963 Před 6 měsíci +21

    On the first day of MTV, April Wine was one of only three groups (along with The Who and Phil Collins) to have five airplays of a single song (Just Between You and Me). For total airplays the day was owned by Rod Stewart and REO Speedwagon. April Wine was still impressive in the list of total airplays for the opening day with the addition of Sign of The Gypsy Queen being played twice. So for total airplays we have: Rod Stewart 16, REO Speedwagon 15, The Pretenders 11, The Who 9, April Wine 7, Split Enz 7. Still a good showing by AW.

  • @user-ld6gf8nz6y
    @user-ld6gf8nz6y Před 6 měsíci +3

    Aàhhh !! My High school years,it is sad you haven't heard about his passing, I just found out about this watching 502 😢 one of my favorites 🎶🎶 RIP MYLES🎶🎶

  • @TheCharlieCurrie
    @TheCharlieCurrie Před 6 měsíci +3

    I could feel the slow clap coming. Legit.

  • @shanehamann6539
    @shanehamann6539 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Great job guys!!! Myles (RIP) was an extremely versatile musician and songwriter. He had a perfect rock and roll mix of hard rockers and beautiful ballads. Listening to “Coming Right Down on Top of Me” in the right mood gets emotional reactions from me every time.
    I’d love to know what others think of it…

  • @williamdemerchant7295
    @williamdemerchant7295 Před 6 měsíci +25

    Like many Canadians of my age group, the first rock concert I ever attended was April Wine in 1974 or 75. They were a part of the soundtrack to my teenage years. Thanks guys. RIP Myles.

    • @bradkoski
      @bradkoski Před 6 měsíci +3

      Wish I could’ve been there……love ‘em❤❤❤❤❤

  • @RobertsOnMyTurntable
    @RobertsOnMyTurntable Před 6 měsíci +4

    Thank you from A Canadian fan of yours and, of course, of April Wine and Myles Goodwyn🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

  • @4yules
    @4yules Před 6 měsíci +6

    its why so many people love these songs so much...grew up through the years with this soundtrack of life ..and we must say thanks for the memories.music definitly touches people .. rip

  • @markk.4941
    @markk.4941 Před 6 měsíci +3

    This came out the year I graduated High School. Have always loved April Wine. Hate to hear of Myles' death. Hearing this song is bringing tears to my eyes too! For something to cheer you up listen to "I Like to Rock". It's right up there with "Roller"

  • @peck404
    @peck404 Před 6 měsíci +6

    ❤😢 I have watched this reaction video now six times in 2 days this is one of my very favorite songs of all time by any Band

  • @johnrusseau4813
    @johnrusseau4813 Před 6 měsíci +11

    I seen April wine several times and each time was better than the last,one of my favorite bands. Rest in peace Myles,

  • @robl1613
    @robl1613 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Seen them live 6 times mostly in thier prime...they were great live...very underated

  • @axiomt5981
    @axiomt5981 Před 2 měsíci +3

    As a teen in the 70s was always into heavier music then I was at a friends party one weekend and he played a few April Wine albums back to back. I became a huge fan and saw them in concert a few years later when they were playing a concert in the area.

  • @trickdiddy123
    @trickdiddy123 Před 6 měsíci +7

    It's been very refreshing to see a lot of the younger generation hearing for the first time what I've been listening to my entire life.... and yes I know many have heard this before but I truly feel that April Wine has to be one of the most underrated bands in any era. From their debut album in 1971 to their 16th studio album in 2006 they have produced an unbelievable amount of amazing music including 34 singles. For those who are not that familiar with April Wine its the hidden gems that were never released as singles that make this group so good. Their third & fourth albums "Electric Jewels & Stand Back" are simply must have's that are full of great songs after great songs. Outside of the title hit & " Like a Lover like a song" the Whole World's goin crazy album has songs such as "Wings of Love, Shot down, Gimme love that are incredible as well. From 1978 - 1981 AW released 3 killer albums, First Glance, Harder Faster & The Nature of the Beast which if I was stranded on a beach would definitely be in my library. Along with the many singles there are so many songs on those albums that could of & should have been hits as well. Even some of their latest studio releases such as "Attitude" are kicking. For me, Myles Goodwyn was without a doubt the most influential music artist in my life (just ask my wife). He not only had one of the most recognizable & distinct voices in music but also had to be one of the best song writers in the industry. I appreciate you guys coming to realize the same, and yes....Wonderful reaction!

  • @Roddy1965
    @Roddy1965 Před 6 měsíci +15

    Myles Goodwyn, a legend of Canadian, and world, hard rock. Really hard to beat April Wine in this genre. Respect to you guys for a genuine and heartfelt reaction.

  • @chrisproffitt6198
    @chrisproffitt6198 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I bought this album when I was in the 5th grade . It doesn't take a rocket scientist to appreciate great song structure, guitar tone and stellar vocals. Glad you guys are discovering this 40 plus years later!

  • @catserver8577
    @catserver8577 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Literally plays your heart strings.

  • @db6655
    @db6655 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I first heard this song when I was a little girl, and I've adored it ever since.

  • @dougcarson5202
    @dougcarson5202 Před 6 měsíci +4

    So sad to hear that we lost Miles at a relatively young age. I had the good fortune to see April Wine live twice back in their heyday of the late 70s and early 80s. They were definitely FIRE. Watching and listening to Miles lead their incredibly arranged triple-guitar explosion was truly exciting to say the least. Miles had such a beautiful voice as well, showcased so sweetly here on this classic ballad. Rest-in-Peace. Miles...we love you.

  • @kimbarry4674
    @kimbarry4674 Před 6 měsíci +18

    You're worthy.....soooo many Canadian bands got the short end from the USA and thank god Canada supported them because I grew up to this amazing music.....APRIL WINE was just inducted into Canada's Walk of Fame you may be interested to go watch the video❤🇨🇦

  • @richardrodriguez2120
    @richardrodriguez2120 Před 6 měsíci +6

    RIP Myles. This album was and still is a banger. I wore the hell out of this album back in high school

  • @jeffmaltby6185
    @jeffmaltby6185 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Thinking of my school dances in the 80s. In Tears , 😥 RIP Myles

  • @KP-oe8sk
    @KP-oe8sk Před 5 měsíci +3

    I seen April wine and the Stampeders 1971-72? in Brockville Ontario Opera theatre.April Wine was the opening act for the Stampeders. As you know this song is from 1985? So they had 14 plus yrs under their belts !! Both good groups for a SMALL TOWN KID!!! 14 yrs old at the time!! RIP Myles!!

  • @TroyOttosen-jg7tt
    @TroyOttosen-jg7tt Před 10 dny +1

    I am here in Alaska , my favorite rock bands I grew up with? April whine, Rush, triumph! And I
    am 57!😉👍

  • @johnlivingston6162
    @johnlivingston6162 Před 6 měsíci +12

    As far as Power ballads go . this is a masterpiece. Been a fan for over 40 years...I shed a tear myself just now... I'll miss Myles forever

  • @imtallpaul
    @imtallpaul Před 6 měsíci +10

    One of my favorite concerts EVER. April Wine and Eddie Money around 1982. Fantastic show.

  • @ChrisTaylor-ef4zn
    @ChrisTaylor-ef4zn Před 6 měsíci +5

    Silver Dollar and Rock and Roll is a Vicious Game are two of my favorites.

  • @Karen_in_Canada
    @Karen_in_Canada Před 28 dny +2

    I didn't know he was gone. Thank you for appreciating his efforts

  • @dukecleve4008
    @dukecleve4008 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Man remember listening to these guys on the Buzzard, WMMS Cleveland really pushed these guys RIP Brother 🙏

  • @marksearch3461
    @marksearch3461 Před 6 měsíci +13

    Love the reaction guys 👍 As a proud Canadian , there were so many bands we produced in the 80’s that were SO UNDERRATED !!

  • @jamiegriffin9866
    @jamiegriffin9866 Před 6 měsíci +7

    OMG..this was my first.loves song..he died last year❤❤❤

    • @victoriabarr255
      @victoriabarr255 Před 6 měsíci +1

      He died last week.

    • @jethro1963
      @jethro1963 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@victoriabarr255 She meant her first BF

    • @victoriabarr255
      @victoriabarr255 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Sorry about that. Thanks for clarifying.

    • @jethro1963
      @jethro1963 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@victoriabarr255 I almost made the same mistake myself :)

  • @420since1974
    @420since1974 Před 6 měsíci +5

    RIP Myles. April Wine's "Electric Jewels" album was one of the first 10 albums that I ever bought. Please react to April Wine's "Drop Your Guns".

  • @bradmcneil4336
    @bradmcneil4336 Před 6 měsíci +7

    The passing of Myles Goodwyn has been all over the news n social media here in Canada. Our condolences to his family. RIP

  • @user-ty6hp4bw1t
    @user-ty6hp4bw1t Před měsícem +2

    been a fan since 1972, saw them the first '74 and a bunch after that. hearing of Myles death was a sad day indeed. just keep rocking guys!

  • @emzirek
    @emzirek Před 6 měsíci +14

    Now Just Imagine, growing up with this and finding your first teenage love...

  • @Jude_196
    @Jude_196 Před 6 měsíci +17

    RIP MYLES!! Thanks for reacting to this one, Guys!! RIP Myles Goodwyn!! SO MANY GOOD APRIL WINE SONGS!!! :)

  • @WendiBloomenthal
    @WendiBloomenthal Před 3 měsíci +3

    Classic Canadian band . I have seen them more than once the last time being at our local bar in the Westshore on Vancouver Island B.C Canada . They sounded as good as ever .

  • @lrmguitars1224
    @lrmguitars1224 Před 6 měsíci +27

    It's been a tough year for us Canadians Gordon, Robbie now Myles

    • @jopay142
      @jopay142 Před 20 dny +1

      I would add Karl Tremblay to this lot. I was quite surprised and touched to see condolonces messages from every provinces when he passed away. RIP them all.

  • @cjpew
    @cjpew Před 6 měsíci +6

    This one hit me harder than most - maybe because I grew up with their music, maybe because I had the pleasure of meeting Myles once. I will forever cherish that memory (and his autograph on my prized April Wine t-shirt). RIP Myles, you were a great gift to the music world. And thanks guys for this reaction.

  • @joerichards2658
    @joerichards2658 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Thanks guys for paying tribute to my hometown boy, Myles. Such a fantastic career and legacy.

  • @yaradeblanco4761
    @yaradeblanco4761 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Favorite the abril wine
    Lindo bello wao. ❤

  • @dannychase1787
    @dannychase1787 Před 6 měsíci +5

    They are from Halifax NS. It was my first concert in the early 80s. April Wine is pure Canadian Rock, along with Rush, Triumph, Hip….list can go on forever. Myles was a Canadian treasure and a Nova Scotian icon. What a loss. RIP Myles

  • @davecody5997
    @davecody5997 Před 6 měsíci +3

    They were so under appreciated .....Canada is so lucky to have been blessed with their music!!!

  • @bobthebear1246
    @bobthebear1246 Před 6 měsíci +7

    My #1 favorite video by you guys. ❤ I KNEW y'all would LOVE THIS!!!! ❤ Imagine 56-year-old me back when I first heard this song in late 1981 when I was just 14 years old. Just like with you guys it completely blew me away. It was love at first listen. It didn't take me long after that to become a big April Wine fan. They are the #1 most underrated Rock band of all time. They only sold 10 million copies combined of their 20 albums, 16 of which were original studio albums. This was a band who should have sold at least 50 million. They were one of the top bands in Canada, but unfortunately only barely made a dent in the US market a few times and that was it. What an absolute shame, but we will always have their music forever. ❤

  • @joelinvirginia5198
    @joelinvirginia5198 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Your reaction matches mine from the first time I heard it in 1981! It's a great album altogether really. April Wine was a known commodity here in the states, many of us thought they were great! The two albums preceding this one were fairly popular too, but this one broke them out a bit here.