Curly Coated Retriever | Is It Right For You?
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- Today Uncle Stonnie is working with Maggie, an awesome Curly Coated Retriever puppy and talking about whether or not a Curly Coated Retriever may be right for you and your family.
00:00 - Introduction & Basic Obedience Demonstration
08:02 - Off Leash Hike With Labrador Retrievers
Official Standard for the Curly-Coated Retriever
"General Appearance: This smartly upstanding, multi-purpose hunting retriever is recognized by most canine historians as one of the oldest of the retrieving breeds. Developed in England, the Curly was long a favorite of English gamekeepers. Prized for innate field ability, courage and
indomitable perseverance, a correctly built and tempered Curly will work as long as there is work to be done, retrieving both fur and feather in the heaviest of cover and the iciest of waters.
To work all day a Curly must be balanced and sound, strong and robust, and quick and agile. Outline, carriage and attitude all combine for a grace and elegance somewhat uncommon among the other retriever breeds, providing the unique, upstanding quality desired in the breed. In outline, the Curly is moderately angulated front and rear and, when comparing height to length,
gives the impression of being higher on leg than the other retriever breeds. In carriage, the Curly is an erect, alert, self-confident dog. In motion, all parts blend into a smooth, powerful, harmonious symmetry.
The coat, a hallmark of the breed, is of great importance for all Curlies,
whether companion, hunting or show dogs. The perfect coat is a dense mass of small, tight, distinct, crisp curls. The Curly is wickedly smart and highly trainable and, as such, is cherished as much for his role as loyal companion at home as he is in the field."
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I've been waiting for this video! I'm not a retriever person in general BECAUSE of the gregarious, overly-friendly nature a lot of them have. My type are usually boar hunters or terriers that tend to pick their one person, but those are dogs that require management in public - and what I like doesn't necessarily make it good for my community. When I heard about Curly Coats and saw that you had one on the channel, I've been so excited to see the difference and read the community's experience. I love how adaptable Maggie is, and how her behaviour changes depending on the context so easily once she gets the hang of it. Having a nice, athletic dog with a great attitude that you don't have to micro-manage is a win in my book! Thanks Stonnie!
Keep in mind that I have limited experience with the breed; some people are saying that it’s not uncommon for the Curly Coats to be a little surly, hard to manage, etc…
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…The Curlies I have met in the Show and Obedience rings were just as you described. Not as exuberant as a Lab. Very aware of their surroundings and foot placement. Focused on their person. Friendly, but not necessarily looking for pets from strangers, like a Boxer might. A good watch dog, but not a guard, like a Chesapeake Bay Retriever might be. One of the best advanced obedience dogs I ever saw was a quite tall, black male Curlie back in the 70s and I became an admirer. 😁🖤🐕🤎 I am very surprised they are not more popular, but let’s keep them a secret. Maggie is a beautiful example of her breed.
Maggie seems like a very nice dog who could fit nicely into many homes. I really enjoy these videos on different breeds. Thank you for sharing them!
Thank you for watching!
She's a lovely pooch.
American Labrador my favorite breed. But love seeing all the different breeds.
I will get my CCR puppy in few weeks 🥰
Check back in and tell us about her!
Very nice dog ! I am a vizsla lover, but this little Maggy please me with her nice attitude.
My big boy always wags his tail when watching your videos.😊
Wow I've never seen them. Beautiful dog
Great video, thanks! My 2 curly females are much like Maggie. There are lines more field bred. Also, generally, they are very affectionate.
You comfort me in my choice of breed for my next service dog.❤
This is one CCR, they all seem to vary in temperaments, I've owned 3 and all have been aloof and not fond of people outside of their circle.
They look like labs with a bad perm 😂very cute dogs
We have had a variety of breeds over the years and labs are by far the easiest of the big dogs to train. Now in my eighties we have an intact male Doberman and Dutch Shepard Mal mix for “protection” as we are in the country. They have been a challenge. But being retired and a dog lover my wife and I along with 7 grandsons have aggressively socialized the two so that the family structure is well understood by all 2 and 4 legged.
The genetic package that the breed brings is inescapable but as you so strongly demonstrate consistent training and support makes for a good companion and working dog.
Keep up the good work in educating, there will always be critics
Sounds more like a poodle in personality. Soft, cautious, and elegant. I'm trying to research this breed as I would love to get into a breed I could help the population of. ❤️
I seen a new Finland the other day at Walmart. I walked up to the owner and I said what is that a lab Stony thank you for teaching me that that’s what they came from
Love your outlook and information. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
She's very pretty.
What a sweet little dog Maggie is. Interesting breed. Always enjoy your videos, Stonnie.
Thank you!
Even the greatest retriever lines in labrador display variance in temperament amongst littermates. Dominant pups seeking involvement will typically be the ones who wont be gun shy and will not balk when asked to recover the crippled bird in February water. Point is it's hard to infer too much about curly coat without observing an entire litter develop. Maggie is sensitive and smart, has great lines and is elegant, she will be a stress-free companion. She belongs in the house and not in the barn.
Having curlies myself, when it comes to their trainability and temperament there can be a great variability between lines and how the pups are raised. Then it comes down to the training ability of the new owners.
How do your dogs compare to the pup in the video?
@@StonnieDennis my bitch is an absolute sweetie pie like Maggie, a thinker, very soft and cautious/evaluates situations before going head on in. My dog, also a lover but slower to mature (a boy thing 😜), he’s a fanatical retriever in the water, she is on the ground. Not much fazes either and both are people and dog friendly. As you mentioned, like
Maggie, prefect for nursing home environment as both are great couch potatoes 😊
Have you ran into many that were unfriendly? Did it take a while for your male to develop a strong retrieving drive?
I've read that some make sound guard dogs on top of their retrieving duties - would this align within the variability within their temperament?
@@StonnieDennis there's some same sex aggression in the breed, but i would say this stems from the fact that curlies have remained relatively unchanged since their creation. they were used by poachers/game keepers and i personally would define them more as a versatile gundog. they guard, track, hunt and retrieve. if you're lucky like me, you get one that does all those things AND flash points. they have drive but hate repetition and will blow you off when you've asked them to do a task too many times. again, they were used by poachers/game keepers and were supposed to work quietly on their own without commands so that they wouldn't give away their location. keep sessions short, and retrieve drive should be fostered. my curly retrieved at 8 weeks, but not like a robotic lab. my boy's prey drive is off the charts, i use him for blood tracking and recently started upland. they should NOT have any aggression towards people, but should be aloof. He's very demonstrative towards humans he knows, but does not run up to greet strangers. once you are ok in his book, he will remember you forever, and can find you from across a crowded room. they are also very intuitive and match their energy level to the situation they are in, translating to an awesome off switch.
Great information and Maggie is such a nice dog! I like curly coats and flat coats a lot. They look similar, but temperament seems to be quite different.
Great video again Uncle Stonnie. And Maggie seems like an awesome dog! (all depending on the owners expectations of course)
"Dogs that are good at doing stuff usually arn't really good at being still, and dogs that are good at being still are not really good at doing stuff" City/suburban dog owners need to understand this before they get a husky, JRT, aussie, or GSP.
100%
Always enjoy your videos😊
What a self-possessed little girl!
That is a beautiful dog, reminds me of a chessie
A nice blackthorn walking stick might come in handy
Great video! Would also love your opinion on the Flatcoat Retriver. I think they are Nutz😅
I’ve owned a nuts (ditzy, excitable no matter the exercise level received) one, but have met more settled Flatcoats. It was a very different experience with her compared to raising a Lab or the other large breeds that I’ve owned. She did, however, have the typical retriever temperament of being very friendly with people and other animals.
I’ve never seen Curly Coat in person. A friend had a few Chesapeake Bay retrievers.
I think thats the first time ive seen you do the little circle tippy taps loooool. Quite an interesting video, I liked this a lot!
I think I would still prefer the big chubby at 7:41, however.
Does Mr Stonnie have a book out yet? If not he should.
Good to know! Sounds like a golden retriever but a little more laid back. Could be my next dog, when I'm over 70
Yeah no..they are NOT SOME 70YR + dog, don't be fooled by super sweet Maggie. These dogs can absolutely be full of energy and drive and need a job.
Looks like Stonnie’s built a giant, mobile brush pile challenge.
Aren't CCR's the foundational breed for Golden Retrievers? Love that Catahoula wanting to be in the middle of the action. You teach them to stay with you the same way I teach hand signals. I only have 10 acres but it is room enough for training.
Yes you can find Curlies in modern golden pedigrees !
That's wavy coat retriever mixed with Irish setter
@akodo1 Actually curlies have shown up in golden retriever pedigrees in the early 1900s
@@LD-xg5gw the poster asked if the CCR was foundation of the golden. It's not. CCR might have contributed but it wasn't foundational. That's a wavy coat retriever and Tweed water spaniel. (I was wrong when I said Irish setter)
The first Golden Retrievers were bred in 1868 by Lord Tweedmouth, the first Baron Tweedmouth, Dudley Coutts Majoribanks, at his estate in Guisachan House in the Scottish Highlands. Lord Tweedmouth mated a yellow Wavy-Coated retriever named "Nous" with a Tweed Water spaniel named "Belle" in 1868 and 1871. The first litter's puppies were named Cowslip, Crocus, and Primrose
Miss the comparison od retrieveing skills od this two breeds..
I felt like it was an unfair comparison, so I left it out.
@@StonnieDennis This is because this dogs time in Your hands is too short. After some time she can compete with black labs and will not be beaten too much..
I’ll have access to her, as she just lives down the road. If her retrieving drive increases, I’ll make another video.
That being said, I can’t imagine her developing the drive of a field bred Lab.
She has read the calm and polite chapter of your book!!! LOL
I have been around this breed often, living smack in the middle of waterfowl hunting ground zero on the Chesapeake. From what I have seen (friends that had them) These dogs are temperamental and were not friendly like labrador retrievers or golden retrievers. If you have kids, I suggest you look on. Just my .02
How many, in total, have you had the chance to be around on a consistent basis?
How would you describe their retrieving drive?
I suspect bloodline makes a big difference in terms of temperament and working ability.
This one is as sweet as pie. I had another one two months ago and it had a reputation for being a bit unfriendly, but it turns out that he was just a little bit under socialized.
I think you will find your experience with the breed will come down to the lines and training/social interactions the dogs received. Do a huge amount of research on breeders before purchasing a pup.
I love your advice in your videos about picking a dog that is good for your home. I have a field lab and a lab mix, they are so easy to train and love their people. My field lab is a smuggler who is medium energy, perfect for me. Our rescue mix is not as easy in terms of anxiety so our calmer pure bred lab is a perfect dog with him.
Socialization for any dog breed is a necessity for a family dog. Some more than others but still indispensable.
@@reconrc1787It makes sense that if you live in an area where high drive dogs are valued, then that’s what gets emphasized in breeding and puppy selection.
Another thing to consider is that many people who buy dogs for hunting do not believe in the type of intense, early, socialization, that we provide in our program so you may not be getting to see the dogs reach their full potential in terms of sociability. That’s not usually an issue with Labs, but we all know it’s definitely an issue for some types of hunting line retrievers.
I’m super interested in your personal experiences. Please feel free to comment as much as you like!
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Maggie does not have a standard Curly tail. The head isn't right either. I suspect Maggie is not a true bred Curly Coated Retriever.
What percentage of dogs do you believe match their breed standards?
It appears to me that Maggie is in fact a full curly. She just needs a tail grooming.
I also noticed a clever detail about Maggie, and it’s right in her name! The head of a Curly with a TT will usually be less stately than the google images of a Curly with a PP. 🍆 Eureka! I think I will call my invention “molecular biology.”
Maggie’s parents are CH Curlicue's Quantum of Northern Light, and Tephra Harvest Moon Glow, whose pedigrees are viewable online. Her breeder picked her for her temperament. Her looks are her least important trait IMO. She was born to be happy and courteous at home, and to jump in the truck to go run and play in the field. She’ll live better than most people, even when her hair falls out and her eyes turn gray and her whole back end doesn’t wiggle anymore. That’s what dogs are for in my world, but I happen to think she’s a gorgeous sweetheart to boot. Expectations exceeded. As @lindadesercey852 noted, she’s wisely prioritized adventuring with Stonnie over her coif.
I never head so much useless „information“. You try to describe a complete breed by training 1 dog?😂😂😂 we have/had 8 curlies and almost nothing you said is true for our dogs. 2 are proven Huntington’s, a third one is trained to become one…….. I am already scared to watch the chessie video…
Make timestamps as to what I got wrong and then post some links to your Curly Coat Retrievers doing similar things in similar environments.
No need to be afraid, I made the video so people can start researching. This is my experience, with video evidence of the process and the results.
Do you have links so we can take a look at your work?
I just went to your channel. Honestly I couldn’t find one watchable or useful video. Maybe I’m missing something, can you please make a play list so we have a good starting point for understanding your opinion and expertise on the breed?
As someone who isn't a retriever person, I gained a lot from this video. :) And in the first minute of the video, it's already explained that he's not an expert. It's cool to not know things and reach out to people who do. So since you're here, what would you say about your experience with Curlies and what kind of handler would fit them?
@@StonnieDennis Stonnie, this guy seems to be from Germany/Austria area.
I've heard from guys who have imported German wirehair pointers, Drahthaars (basically GWP that don't meet the AKC/UKC standard ) and Weimaraners. These guys say the import dogs have much different temperament in two ways. First - they are more "hard headed" during training. Second, they are equally interested in mammals as they are birds. (Makes sense because these are more generalist hunters in Germany that track wounded deer, chase raccoons etc) It takes a few generations of breeding to get them "Americanized"
And we know that German line GSDs are very different temperament from American lines
What this tells me is Stonnie is probably 100% correct on American Lines Curly Coated (well maybe 95% don't want your hat to stop fitting ) and the commenter be 100% correct on German/Austrian lines.
If you want a dog like in this video buy from an American breeder don't import.
I have 2 curlies, I think Stonnie makes a good picture of curlies in a 20 minutes video. “Soft”, sweet temperament, in between field and show, perceptive to the environment.