I Played Armored Core: Master of Arena And I Was Blown Away
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2023
- So up to this point in my time with Armored Core, I’ve consistently liked the games, but I’ve never loved them. They’ve had moments of absolute brilliance, but those were always followed by some of the most annoying and frustrating things I’ve seen in a PS1 game. But FromSoftware was still out there… taking as much time as they needed to really make this next one their best. When making Project Phantasma, they took only 4 months after the launch of the original game to develop it to completion. The results were good, but still felt unsatisfactory, like something was just… missing. But when making their new expansion, Master of Arena, they knew they had to make this the one. This had to be the absolute best that Armored Core would ever be on the PS1 hardware. So they took 13 months to develop this new expansion, and built on top of their last iteration of the franchise. Did it pay off? Well, let’s talk about it.
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Armored Core: Master of Arena is a 1999 third-person shooter mecha video game developed by FromSoftware for the PlayStation. Master of Arena is the third entry in the Armored Core series and a direct sequel to Armored Core: Project Phantasma. It is the final game in the original Armored Core trilogy. The game was not released in Europe. An indirect sequel, Armored Core 2, was released on August 3, 2000, for the PlayStation 2.
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One of my favourite things about watching people getting through these games, especially archived on CZcams, is watching the piloting progress. What always starts out with stilted and jerky movements, playing like every action has to be translated in the brain before it can be put into the controller, always ends up with the player mastering the controls and everything looking so fluid. These games really do level you up as a player.
Master of Arena is a complete masterpiece. I love the simple plot that still hits you with twists and turns. The mission variety is excellent, and the pacing with the arena, garage, and sorties is perfect.
it's not a bug if you get human plus your ac and character name will forever be called rebel
@06:20 k to clarify
Rebel is automatically a title given to you if you undergo human plus, once your character is modified by it, your orginal name gets replaced and you get called "Rebel" even if you rename yourself in MOA..
It's just a thing in the game..
Cool to see you had fun with ac:moa I defo agree that it gets pacing done well and build up with Nine Ball is executed perfectly =D
There was a cheat code for changing your pilot name. In the garage, highlight ''Change AC Name." While holding L2 + R2 + Right, hold X and quickly hold Square. Best to do it after you get all the human plus upgrades. And a little trick that helps with vertical aming is when you want to change from sky or ground to center press and Hold R2(Down) or L2(Up) then press the other one and release both
Yep, it's a codename that is imposed on you much like your cybernetics, always reminding you that you've been compromised as a human.
C4-621 is a callback to that.
@@TheZgrzytu and if you do it l;ike me from the first armoured core game you can use that profile for the second one and still use the same profile forr master of the arena
so youll have parts from all 3 games still play with my bro and friends but they are no match 4 me lol
@@jasonalexander5674 I know I 100% all 3 of em :)
No one mentioned the Karasawa because it's a secret. Shhh.
But no, no one told you for the same reason no one should have told you about Nineball Seraph. It's *more fun* to eventually figure it out on your own. I'm glad that you made your way through and beat Nineball Seraph. Though you didn't touch on the Ex Arena, which I thought was great and the IRL backstory to it is pretty cool too. A time when FROM really interacted with its fanbase a lot more than I think it does today.
I recommend you get used to not using Human+ as they will eventually disallow it entirely while continuing to give it to the AI in later games. And you won't get human+ back until it becomes the unavoidable default in AC4, where Psychic LYNX pilot NEXT-type AC's with awesome power.
11:15 Because it is a graduation, you Defeated Nineball Seraph.
The first games are just the Raven Exams, there's more to come.
ohhh right thats not a UI bug IIRC if you enter the human plus program the name rebel will be stuck to you... for almost as long as younplayed those imported saves this logic carries over to AC2 to another age where the human plus program as an "easy mode" ceased to be going forward. to be replaced by OP-I in AC3 when you finish the game where in you need to equip the option part and then do certain side missions to unlock human + upgrades but not the ability to field as overweight which is one of the perks of human+
PS once you reach gen 3 it is wisely advised that you do not do a fresh run of Silent Line but import your save from AC3, logic runs the same line once you reach last raven you either import a save from Nexus or import a save from a fully unlocked and completed run of Ninebreaker (depending if you carried over data from Nexus or start fresh from Ninebreaker) which more or less meant you need to gold all of training parts in Nine Breaker
and yes Karasawa is the most powerful laser rifle in the games and its basically what is the Moonlight greatsword to From Software games. story has it he was the man behind making the prototype for armored core since when they first begun developing King's Field 1 roughly 4 years (yes the jp version of King's Field 1) and died after project phantasma was completed I think.... and yes every generation has its version of Karasawa except Last Raven which sports not 1 but 2 generations of Karasawa, with ACV topping it by having 4 variants.... only VARIANTS :/ I allude the 5th gen Karasawa to the Beam Magnum from Unicorn what makes it up for fire power lacks in ammo count :/ 4 shots and 5 shots with dual shoulder slot magazine
however the Karasawa in Gen 1 has its limitations not all legs can use it as the model will "clip through" the environment and from soft didnt want that
ohh come another age.... uhh yeah.... your experience play the first trilogy will definitely come in handy.... I wont spoil but if you know then you know
If you liked MoA. you are going to love AC2
Yea ac2 definitely a watershed moment for the series great game =D
AC 2 , was the first one I played it was great , after that I wasnt able to get another ac game until ac4 , armored core 4 and for answer are hand down the best in the series.
Master of Arena is shorter, but I liked the feel a lot better than second gen, mostly because of the lack of heat system and snappier movement feel. 2 has a great story, but there's some growing pain.
enjoying the show? refill your popcorn, you're going to love this next one
I mopped th floor with everyone in AC 2 because they depended too much the new weapons and mechanics. Good game but for me the game series peaked at MOA
Ah bro! im so happy you got into Master of Arena! its one of my favorite AC games because it shows you how dangerous the world is. Just doing a simple "destroy the convey" mission will become a random AC battle. unlike in Phantasma and the original, you get a sense that the most dangerous threat you can encounter, is another AC, most likely outfitted with human plus.
Also, speaking of Human plus, in game, when you get it, the lore implications is that you become a cyborg who can 'jack' into their AC as opposed to just piloting it. along with other cyberpunk augments, after the surgery, your new name becomes "Rebel" followed by some random numbers. Its a small implication that while you've become a Plus, you have lost your human identity. Armored Core Lore makes videos on the games and topics if you're interested.
also also, supposedly, Master of Arena takes place after the original Armored Core (Phantasma is a prequel to the first game) and your player character is someone else from the first two games, but they hate Nineball because Nineball killed his family. But comically enough, the player fighting 2 of them in the first game gives any gamer enough reason to want revenge lmaooo
(garage gang ftw)
(Did you know about Master of Arena's Disk Two? It features more... bizarre ACs)
Meanwhile in later Armored Core lore, ACs have shrunk in size and less armored up, while we are getting a mix of normal, augmented, and digitized AC pilots and AI alike.
But yes, anyone who have fought Hustler-1 not once, not twice, but three times in the original would go "How many times do I have to shut you down!?"
But some of us are insane enough to leave no Nineball standing and still got room to slay the final boss
You have to download both disks to play???
AC1 has missions where ACs can unexpectedly show up. The mission where you defend the train, the early "destroy random stuff" mission where the RANK 2 shows up, and I recall one in a crater which might've been a different one in the series.
Master of Arena is truly a great game, but I also believe these games also just simply start to click better once you get over the hump of the learning curve. Sure, the structure of these games is addictive, but making a build you can effectively pilot is so incredibly satisfying. It was the best feeling when I got good at piloting a lightweight build and somehow took out Nine-Ball Seraph on my first try.
Also, the parking garage makes an appearance in AC3 again, lol. You might be thankful it exists there at some points even if it doesn't feel like an honorable victory haha.
How is it not an honorable victory? I used parking lot for 95% of arena matches
@@FSVR54Lol, same. But it did bite me in the ass when I had opponents with heat rounds and flamethrowers. I'll forever hate Caller with a burning passion.
The whole Rebel thing is actually a really cool design choice meant to dehumanize the player by taking their own agency away from them
I played this when I was a child and it was one of the most important games to me growing up, I felt like I walked away from it with a dozen things I just loved. Thanks for making these videos and giving the games a shot and a spotlight, it's really evident in your presentation that you take the time to really respect the games. This was really awesome to watch and get to sit for a few minutes to remember it all and take it in, thank you.
0:32 Like better hardware lmfao. This game was way beyond its time. I commend them for making as many as they did before even twin stick controls were a thing. Just being able to efficiently pilot a mech with the original ps controller back in the day was a badge of honor. Being the kid at the sleepover that nobody could beat.. priceless..
Red robot reminded me of boondocks. "I like ya, and I want ya. Now we can do this the easy way, or we can do this the hard way. " lol
You do know that this is a 2 disk game, right? And after you beat the story, the real. Arena unlocks on the second disk ware you get to fight the game programmers and their wooden ACS can't even make this stuff up there's a reason they called it Arena
My cope for the garage arena is that I don't select maps, I cycle through them after each match regardless of if I win or not. This helps keep the experience fresh, out of my hands, keeps building skill, while also allowing a "unfair" victory when the troublesome ACs end up fighting in the garage.
And if I lose that garage map, oh well guess I'll have to at least try to beat them in the others before the next opportunity. Yeah it takes more time then choosing the cheapest maps and weapons and youtube builds, but it suits my currently tight work schedule where I can't binge games or other things anyway, which these games I swear were originally designed for that. (it's almost like japan at that time had brutal work and school hours...) And sometimes I beat them in more typical maps due to getting gud.
I played MoA before I ever played the first 2 games. The final boss was brutal without Human Plus. I didn't even know Human Plus was a thing until years later.
Same. Didn't play the first 2 first, never knew about human plus in MoA.
Oh boy your experience of the story of AC 2 is gonna be fascinating given how much MoA means to you thanks to your experiences. Hopefully now my view that MoA is basically AC 1's remake makes sense to you. Either way, I'm glad to see your experience with the series so far, and look forward to seeing it continue!
Mad respect for sticking with the tank controls. I had to play with my emulator to get it like a twin stick. Which isn't hard. But still tedious as fuck
Now and can move with the sticks and attack with the triggers. Rip th face buttons
Getting human plus in AC1 to beat MOA! 😂. I remember as a kid I thought human plus made the game too easy and I was worried about honorable wins so I refused to use it. Whatever helps you enjoy the game, I support, but I still find it amusing being worried about honorable kills or redemption while you go easy mode (might as well carry over the Karasawa while you're at it). Start a fresh play and make the very most of those all those parts because, as always, knowledge is power in Fromsoft and that's the real fun of it. You slum your way out of the bottom to become an unstoppable force at the top.
I remember struggling with CHAMPION arena specially with the AC named Paradise Lost.
I got a good laugh when you were mad about the kirisawa. I got that immediately to carry me through the first game
Cool series dude, really enjoyed seeing a fresh take on all my old favourites
love your 3 videos so far, it's awesome that so many people are trying this series out!
Just, about the controls maybe you didn't notice but you could remap the controls since AC1. By setting the movement and strafe to face buttons and aiming to dpad (or viceversa), the series plays perfectly fine until AC Nexus. But maybe you got used to the default controls which is cool!
I haven't played Master of Arena since I was a kid during the PSX days. I am replaying through the games now, luckily I already have all of the 14 home console releases of the Armored Core franchise. I also still have the PlayStation consoles needed to play them. No emulation needed.
I’m glad you enjoyed this masterpiece! I’m surprised like so many that you didn’t mentioned the Ex- Arena or even MK Ranker (where YOU create an AC enemy (full shop and parts) to fight).
My favorite game of all time.
The Rebel designation happens when you get Human Plus, usually it is REBEL+some random 3 digit number replacing the pilot name
Fun fact. the protagonist (player) of AC MOA is named Leos Klein. and he is antagonist in Armored Core 2
same happend too in Armored core 4 and 4 for answer
9:00 I mean if you wanted to really strike that 'true raven' feel then you'd also be playing without H+. The garage is a form of difficulty setting in the same way H+ is.
Fun fact: Nineball Seraph appears as a boss and an Extra Mission executive player unit in Another Century's Episode R.
There's even a canon AC, which is far and few between.
2nd favorite Armored Core game, the pacing in the game is good, the missions are fun and most of the arena fights are fun. Plus the game is centered around my favorite AC.
Should talk about how the ranked arena in armored core six brought back the sub arena system in a way
I heavily recommend learning to bunny hop
MOA was one of the best entries in the entire series.
blown away
i feel like there is a joke about getting rekt in here somewhere
maybe a cut of you getting overwelmed when you say you were blown away would be cute or funny lol ty
Great video, keep going!
AC MoA was supposed to be played in sequence. So, AC1 -> AC PP -> AC MoA. And you loaded your saves from each one. I standby the fact that AC MoA had the best and highest skill ceiling for pvp of any AC to this day. AC6's pvp actually feels boring atm. All ACs start when you beat the game and acquire all items. Then the real game starts with pvp. AC MoA was made for pvpers. And we loved it. AC 4 FA was probably the 2nd best. I really wish FromSoft did more networking code.
Armored Core Master of Arena was my first taste of Armored Core. I demo'd it in a used game store back in 1999-2000. The intro sequence was cool and I still like that music.
That said I think its the weakest of the first generation games. Some of the best weapons were nerfed from AC-1/Project Phantasma, and a handful were buffed.
The focus on the Arena in both gameplay and story was just annoying. Still the story was an evolution. Armored Core 1 was kind of weak in story, but its also the basis for every other game as youre a mercenary taking jobs. Project Phantasma's story was more linear, but it it did have a continuous story. Master of Arena's story combined them with Stinger being Nine-Ball 2.0, and in MOA you fight Nine-Ball 3.0.
The future games would much more often focus on enemy Armored Cores as rivals and parts of the story with Nine-Ball being basically the face or mascot of the series with him reappearing or getting referenced frequently.
Nice Video man!
Depending on how cynical you outlook is on the game, going Human PLUS is either FromSoft's way of taking pity on you, or it was their way of rewarding persistence. In a way, considering how there's basically no hand-holding in the Armored Core games prior, a successful 100% run of these games without Human PLUS all the way until Armored Core 3 _is_ a challenge run unto itself.
No, it wasn't a UI bug, you gave up your name for Human plus. Your character became a science experiment for the progression of cybornetic augmentation to pay off their depts and all it cost was their humanity and identity.
Interestingly, In AC6, I believe this sort of "tradition" canonically happened to pilots like 621 and Iguazu by making poor decisions or through sheer bad luck. Both definitely occured in Iguazu's case.
I just rocked the shit of the entire arena and game with just one holy weapon gilded with a light-yellow color. The WG-XW11. Don't get me wrong, the karasawa is a beast, but if you have the two optional parts that buff energy weapons, you'll dish out almost 1.8X more dps than the bare karasawa. Trust me, i didn't even have to move or fly much using it. enemies caught fire as they tried all their fancy maneuvers and all i used was a middleweight AC with a gun that rivals the karasawa. So if the karasawa is too heavy, use the WG-XW11. it'll save you a migraine trying to reconfigure your build.
Yep this was a good one.
Man the fact that you didn't even touch on the Disc 2 content with multiple class based arena's some of which are locked behind completion of missions and arenas, as well as the ability to create your own arena full of your own AC designs and each having an AI that you can tune yourself... Oh and the extra parts you get from Disc 2's arenas including the best legs in the game. Missed out on some good shit.
Hmm, I've only seen a couple of people mention that you didn't even touch the other half of the game: the arena disc. I spent way more time there than I did doing the campaign. This is also probably the AC game I have the most time on period, as it was the height of my pvp era. I still have my two copies and a ps1 link cable... oh and once again, the stats on various parts were rebalanced with this game making it far more competetive than the broken stuff in Project Phantasma. System link 1v1 was so much fun in MoA.
There's a chunk of the community that talk shit about H+, but I am fully on board with it. After all, you're just handicapping yourself if you don't use the advantages available to you. If someone didn't want to fight with H+ I still had regular save files just in case. I didn't have PP at the time as I missed it and I don't think any nearby stores stocked it iirc, but I did have AC1 since new and you bet your ass I always imported previous save files through the games that allowed it. I did eventually get two copies of PP over the years as well.
How do you turn the graphics so smooth?
Master's of the arena I used to play a lot with my friends.
H+ in the original changes your name to Rebel. That’s your name now.
Didnt you play the second cd of masters of arena?
Now you have to beat MoA without H+.
That's the gold medal, buddy. You can do it.
6:00 ITS MEGAMAN! THE SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT! MEGAMAN!
dude I have an X build I'm AC6 this is so cool
You were named Rebel because you use the Human+.
It is not a bug. It is just the game tell you that you are using Human+.
He finnaly got human + 🤣
You should look for the moonlight blade
What emulator/setting are you using? I'm playing through the AC games too, but mine looks like doodoo using ePSXe
I’m using Duckstation here, and would generally recommend it for any PS games 🙂
There's a weapon even more OP than Karasawa. WA-Finger. It's ludicrous & you get it for becoming number 1 in Project Phantasma arena. lol
Not only uses Human Plus but also uses Karasawa in first playthrough...🧀😅
I don't caaaaare who you are
Only part of MoA i didn't like was that i was uncoear how it fit with the other games.
Is it an alternate timeline? A prequel? I eventually settled on prequel though. Good game.
I believe it's a sequel to the first? Least another comment said it was.
Hope you make it to ps2 AC:Last Raven
human+ isn't the full gameplay experience imo, it's just a handicap/easy mode intended by the devs for players who can't beat the game normally. the reason why fromsoft removed it in later entries is because players were using it as an exploit.
9-ball accidentally kills the protagonist's family
Your back radar wont work with H+ fyi
lmao the garage, a classic of armored core cheese
For taking human + you become less than human (to the game, the devs, and the community) and _your individuality is lost as punishment._
Disk 2?
8:04 Ehhh... unless you completed the first AC.
you've only done 50% of moa, where's the disk 2 content
LoL. Tech biased.
wow i already told you what you need to do and you still use the garage tipical no you didn't complete anything or even play disc 2 like i told you before even if a mecha land in your backyard you can't pilot it i was right all you think are elden rings dark soul those are easy games
People should enjoy the game the way they want to, if the story is fun enough, he sure will do SP Arena sort of extra stuff, don't be such a gatekeeper
I don’t see how you’d like anything about this without hitting Human+ 6x in the first game
He beat previous game without it, so why not? How is this related to his feeling with the game