some of yall arent getting the point. not only wilbur is getting attacked but other content creators that WAS wilburs friend, and some cc doesnt want a part in the drama but was being forced by their own fans to make a statement in the allegations. Some of you guys dont understand what its like to be a content creator. Imagine your friend was just exposed for being an abuser?? just because tina is a content creator doesnt mean she should be treated less human.
Kinda sad when you know that there's people who's also trying to get Tommy to talk about the situation as well! Which he made a state later saying he'll talk about it when he's ready. Poor Tommy! Both him and Wilbur was close so I know he's hurting!
Dude this goes against exactly what Ranboo said at the very start of all this drama. To not force cc’s to make a statement on this, this community is so inpatient and not understanding of the people who are making content for YOUR entertainment. If you keep harassing people like this, some people could and probably should move away from content creation all together for the benefit of their own mental health. This community is seriously so nosy and inconsiderate, some people need time to process information, or simply do not want to make a statement at all and pretend like this never happened.
They think they're such good people forcing other CC's to make a statement on the matter "because it's the right thing to do" in their minds but they're absolutely not obligated to and I hate all these people thinking they're better than everyone else and making these CC's feel so incredibly pressured when they're already dealing with alot of feelings and shit on their own like it's so self righteous imo and ironically also lack of compassion to not recognize these CC's are humans too
I honestly think that all ccs that were close friends of Wilbur should talk about this, but it takes a lot of time to process and they shouldn’t be forced to do it in a certain time. Some ccs, like Quackity, spoke out about this when he wasn’t ready. Poor big Q. I think everyone should make a statement like Tommy, only when they feel ready.
I feel so so sorry for Tommy. Both him and Wilbur was very close for those 4 years. They was even like brothers. It's so heartbreaking that less than only a month ago before all this happened both Tommy and Wilbur actually have 2 videos of them together and they both looked so happy to be hanging out! Those 2 videos are now haunting and didn't age well and will most likely be the LAST time we'll ever see them Happy together, as well as possibly being seen together at all now! 💔
I would urge to everyone forcing a response/statement to content creators to just STOP you don't how people deal with stuff and don't know if they are trying their best to cope doing other stuff to trying to distract themselves, some of them might've been friends off stream and must feel awful and maybe friends with them and not notice "red flags" or being too scared to not have said anything. To end this please before wanting a response let the drama die down a little, let the people not involved directly be sad and gather their thoughts first they are disappointed and sad too let them process the stuff with their close ones first❤
Makes sense, she actually knew n talked to George, they were friends. her n Wilbur, just assuming here… rarely talked, which was kinda obvious when they did back in October on qsmp
So what should he supposed to do? It’s not a SA so I don’t understand why his friends unfollowed him & chooses to support caiti. It looks like they just ditched him when he is in his low points to save themselves.the6 r not true friends to being with
@@AskMe-fl2sm I mean thats their business, its normal to drop someone if they were exposed to something bad, but he literally admitted to it?? Think about it, he was literally almost 8 years older than her, I wouldn't want someone almost a decade old touching on me 🤨 I do understand what your saying, he didn't exactly sa her, but they probably did what's best. Even dream himself went on live (?) crying about the situation
wilbur fans that was still supporting wilbur after the apology was attacking not just wilburs fans but the whole community including tina. Some were forcing content creators to join the drama to calm things down or to be in a side.
and dont assuming they werent friends. They couldve had private conversations? Most of her friends are friends with wilbur so she probably talked to him alot. Tina is allowed to cry and so is everybody else. just because shes a content creator doesnt mean shes less human
@@Dantethegunk I mean it’s better to just communicate with your community that you have not been feeling well and just you know leave a message on the community board or Twitter either way I don’t think she should’ve gone live.
I mean some people are attacking content creators who either knew W or are in the same communities as him to get them to say statements about him or forcing them to pick a side. But clip videos like these do seem to be for the views as well as the calling out of said abuser.
her fans were forcing her to have an opinion in the drama so shes stating her emotions and opinions right now. Not just tina but foolish, bad, philza, tommy, and some others that were friends with wilbur.
Dang his friends really just abandoned him Are we sure she’s not lying? I’m not saying she’s lying, I don’t know, but this has happened before. I don’t know,,I don’t watch. In all seriousness why are fans forcing people who know them to speak out,
Wanna know how it’s so obvious Shelby wasn’t lying? BECAUSE SHE NEVER MENTIONED WILBUR. In the stream when she talked about the abuse she never said his name once, fans discovered it was him and he wrote an apology after the allegations. It was him because he admitted and Shelby refused his ‘apology’. His friends are abandoning him because he’s a bad person whose ’apology’ wasn’t one bit legitimate. #supportshubblesquad
some of yall arent getting the point. not only wilbur is getting attacked but other content creators that WAS wilburs friend, and some cc doesnt want a part in the drama but was being forced by their own fans to make a statement in the allegations. Some of you guys dont understand what its like to be a content creator. Imagine your friend was just exposed for being an abuser?? just because tina is a content creator doesnt mean she should be treated less human.
Kinda sad when you know that there's people who's also trying to get Tommy to talk about the situation as well! Which he made a state later saying he'll talk about it when he's ready. Poor Tommy! Both him and Wilbur was close so I know he's hurting!
@@ShadyRK9 yeah :(
@@3nor1ax and sadly there's 2 videos of them together a month ago that'll mostly be the last time we'll see them together...
@@ShadyRK9 fun fact: he changed the thumbnail of his video of when he met wilbur.
It's 'Hail Satan' now
@@user-tl9bj9kh4vhe changed it before shubble spoke about Wilbur, it was for his video with tubbo on how they ruined their own video thumbnails
Dude this goes against exactly what Ranboo said at the very start of all this drama. To not force cc’s to make a statement on this, this community is so inpatient and not understanding of the people who are making content for YOUR entertainment. If you keep harassing people like this, some people could and probably should move away from content creation all together for the benefit of their own mental health. This community is seriously so nosy and inconsiderate, some people need time to process information, or simply do not want to make a statement at all and pretend like this never happened.
its weird how its either you say something or your a villain mindset in this community.
They think they're such good people forcing other CC's to make a statement on the matter "because it's the right thing to do" in their minds but they're absolutely not obligated to and I hate all these people thinking they're better than everyone else and making these CC's feel so incredibly pressured when they're already dealing with alot of feelings and shit on their own like it's so self righteous imo and ironically also lack of compassion to not recognize these CC's are humans too
I honestly think that all ccs that were close friends of Wilbur should talk about this, but it takes a lot of time to process and they shouldn’t be forced to do it in a certain time. Some ccs, like Quackity, spoke out about this when he wasn’t ready. Poor big Q. I think everyone should make a statement like Tommy, only when they feel ready.
I feel so so sorry for Tommy. Both him and Wilbur was very close for those 4 years. They was even like brothers. It's so heartbreaking that less than only a month ago before all this happened both Tommy and Wilbur actually have 2 videos of them together and they both looked so happy to be hanging out! Those 2 videos are now haunting and didn't age well and will most likely be the LAST time we'll ever see them Happy together, as well as possibly being seen together at all now! 💔
it sucks too because to him willbur was the next best thing to techno since they where so close together
Phil aswell, I feel so heartbroken for the both of them.
@@numi8985 I guess it's now up to Tubbo to be his new role model?
@@ShadyRK9huh
I would urge to everyone forcing a response/statement to content creators to just STOP you don't how people deal with stuff and don't know if they are trying their best to cope doing other stuff to trying to distract themselves, some of them might've been friends off stream and must feel awful and maybe friends with them and not notice "red flags" or being too scared to not have said anything.
To end this please before wanting a response let the drama die down a little, let the people not involved directly be sad and gather their thoughts first they are disappointed and sad too let them process the stuff with their close ones first❤
Everyone is missing the point. Regardless, Im glad Tina was brave but I wish she hadnt felt pressured to do this if she didnt want to.
this was more about george!! ofc tina feels bad abt the abuse situation, but she's emotional because of george's actions.
Makes sense, she actually knew n talked to George, they were friends. her n Wilbur, just assuming here… rarely talked, which was kinda obvious when they did back in October on qsmp
The George stuff was way overblown. That should have been handled in private.
@@Mije101-bz8ph I kinda agreeeee
So what should he supposed to do? It’s not a SA so I don’t understand why his friends unfollowed him & chooses to support caiti.
It looks like they just ditched him when he is in his low points to save themselves.the6 r not true friends to being with
@@AskMe-fl2sm I mean thats their business, its normal to drop someone if they were exposed to something bad, but he literally admitted to it?? Think about it, he was literally almost 8 years older than her, I wouldn't want someone almost a decade old touching on me 🤨 I do understand what your saying, he didn't exactly sa her, but they probably did what's best. Even dream himself went on live (?) crying about the situation
This is about the george/caiti situation not wilbur
Where does she stream? Her CZcams channel isn't active anymore
On twitch
Yea suddenly everyone knew everything lmao, but it never comes to light before a victim comes out
We are on the Spanish Inquisition of minecraft content creators fr fr
Tá foda mano tá foda o negócio não tá nada legal primeiro o forever e depois os outros tá geral sumindo
Pretty sure this was about George, not Wilbur
Looks at title bro
It's about Wilbur... George's situation was way tamer than wilburs
this is about george
Wilbur
why was she crying btw? i didnt even know they were that close
wilbur fans that was still supporting wilbur after the apology was attacking not just wilburs fans but the whole community including tina. Some were forcing content creators to join the drama to calm things down or to be in a side.
She is just a sensitive person and she cares a lot about her friends
and dont assuming they werent friends. They couldve had private conversations? Most of her friends are friends with wilbur so she probably talked to him alot. Tina is allowed to cry and so is everybody else. just because shes a content creator doesnt mean shes less human
I don't think it's about them being close it's about the fact that this kind of situation brings up a lot of emotions and memories
1:08 she said it triggers her
Can you please stop calling them Allegations.
At this point what do you call them when some are getting pointed out to be fake now we don't know who to believe with or without evidence.
Its for legal reasons.
But is that not what it is? For legal reasons this it’s a literal text book he said she said prove me wrong?
I love Tina but honey you shouldn’t have gone live. A simple Twitter would have been a lot better f
Twitter is the last place you would want to go to
@@Dantethegunk I mean it’s better to just communicate with your community that you have not been feeling well and just you know leave a message on the community board or Twitter either way I don’t think she should’ve gone live.
@@bubblesawesome3284She went live for other reasons, she wasnt even sure on making a statement
I am never goin back to that place(X). Some people there are utterly disgusting they don't believe in other peoples opinion.
@@clarkenvy9142 oh yeah no Twitter sucks I agree with you there. It’s an awful place
Just feel like everyone is weighing in now to get views.
I mean some people are attacking content creators who either knew W or are in the same communities as him to get them to say statements about him or forcing them to pick a side. But clip videos like these do seem to be for the views as well as the calling out of said abuser.
A lot of people don’t have a choice. People on twitter have been attacking other content creators and asking them to say something
People are weighing in because its something that affects the community as a whole
her fans were forcing her to have an opinion in the drama so shes stating her emotions and opinions right now. Not just tina but foolish, bad, philza, tommy, and some others that were friends with wilbur.
im prettu sure this is about george, they were really close. That's why she's emotional.
Dang his friends really just abandoned him Are we sure she’s not lying? I’m not saying she’s lying, I don’t know, but this has happened before. I don’t know,,I don’t watch.
In all seriousness why are fans forcing people who know them to speak out,
im pretty sure that wilbur himself admitted to all of it in his 'apology' statement on twitter/x like a week or two ago
He admitted it himself? And he did it to other people too?
Yes and yes@@Bugvyy
Wanna know how it’s so obvious Shelby wasn’t lying? BECAUSE SHE NEVER MENTIONED WILBUR. In the stream when she talked about the abuse she never said his name once, fans discovered it was him and he wrote an apology after the allegations. It was him because he admitted and Shelby refused his ‘apology’. His friends are abandoning him because he’s a bad person whose ’apology’ wasn’t one bit legitimate. #supportshubblesquad
He admitted it, so I’m not sure why you’re forcing an angle like this? I’m pretty sure you know he admitted it too, so why do this?
reuploaded garbage, tryna get money from a sad mistake of a life, etc Tina is a joke
she didn’t address shit, just wanted “views, money, etc”straight sad