True :/ BUT, if they're truly dedicated and talented and play their cards right then they can use the already massive fanbase that's been created and either carry on without Wilbur or create a new project and keep going, it's really sad for them but absolutely doesn't have to be the end for them at all
Absolutely no problem at all, these issues are important to me and I wanted to make my views very clear. I really really appreciate your support with my channel too, thank you :)
@@JudeDylan ofc! i really enjoy your music and it's like a safe space for me (that sounds hella parasocial holyshit) . it's like what the dsmp or lvjy fandoms used to be like. safe, inclusive, relatively small.
Honestly i was in the community and the community itself was ABSOLUTELY LOVELY But I don’t really want to support someone when they’ve done a literal crime That’s sick:/ I’ve been trying to stay silent abt it and I finally stopped absolutely sobbing like last night (American time) (as I’ve looked up to him for 3 years) I feel why you’re guilty it isn’t your fault :)!
I know he created such a good thing :/ but it's okay!! There's plenty other places to feel accepted and just because this has gone it doesn't mean there's something else
I mean I think it’s kind of sweet how you look up to them and it’s nice that you have your own flow of music 🎶 so you got this king 👑 and me and your fans got your back 😊
It’s funny how I found you like 10 days ago when I loved Wilbur soot and now this has happened so I’m glad there are artists in the same music that are good.❤😅
Hey, it's completely ok! What he did is really shitty and it's not your fault that you've posted videos with their names on it before the entire situation. Theres no need to apologise and the fact you've come out and talked about it means a lot :) Support victims!!
There is no reason for you to fell guilty, and I actually cried hearing about him because I feel the same about the community and he had such a huge impact in my life all just to see it crumble, also of course the abuse to an innocent person was just heartbreaking, and my friends just keep talking about it and I also feel horrible. I wish he was just a better person. Thank you for addressing it and remeber that you have nothing to do with him anymore and continue to make music, dont let this discourage you.
I'll absolutely not let it discourage me, I'll keep going it's just unfortunate that he was part of that journey. But as for the community that he created, I should have been more positive, because there's still a million other places to feel included - that community wasn't the only place of acceptance on the Internet, and it may take some time to find but you'll find your other people you know? :)
You don't need to feel guilty for creating videos that you were proud of, we had no way of knowing that this was going to come out. You are doing the right thing now and that's all that matters, that's all you can do. I also hate that he had to be this way and all we can do now is show support to Shelby and other victims of abuse x
3:08 god you have no idea how true that is. like as someone who is from the middle east and was trying to survive my abusive family/country while being trans and queer, his content and the community surrounding it was basically what kept me sane. and for it all to explode because he turned out to be an abuser and a money hungry monster is just...such a shame
Its very mature for you do make this video and to make sure you audience knows about this. Most creators would just ignore it or not even care to take them down. Its is truly sad how he ruined a lot for himself and others around him, specially the victims lives.
Yo dude, isn’t this crazy? Like we all were simping over Wilbur, now we hate him, well some of us. But it’s crazy, he was the guys we all wanted to date, now the guy we want to stay away from. And bud, don’t feel guilty, you didn’t do anything wrong
Thank you for saying your insights on this as I know he was a big influence on a lot of people ( a bit off topic but I was thinking if you were going to say something about this today before you had posted this) I would still like to listen to his music and lovejoy but I just can’t bring myself to listen to it and my friends keep talking about him bc I used to talk about him a lot and to my keep joking about it and I want to tell them to shut up but I can’t bring myself to do it why did he have to do this?
I know, it's hard, I have some really good memories with friends of his music but they're all tainted now. A real shame. Sorry about your friends though :( I'm sure they'll stop when the whole situation calms down
Some people need to check the date of you video before attacking you. But srs. I loved lovejoy. I haven't even listened to all of their songs because i had been replaying the same ones over and over again. Its just so sad to see what happened :/
No because I think it was like ~2 days before I personally found out about everything that has been recently revealed, and I saw one of those posts. I love your music, and I honestly wouldn't have found it without that. Don't feel guilty about any of that, because nobody knew. I think we were all kind of shocked (I know I was).
Ok, I personally, am not taking any sides just yet until further thoughts from different people, different perspectives to look at, just to kinda get a better view on everything, to really look at it all. Cause this situation has only started to be talked about recently. Yes, there is full evidence Wilbur did what he did, Wilbur "apologized" and admit he hurt Shelby so yes, obviously, this did happen, which is really shitty. However, it is still good to get full detail on perspectives. And I just want to say, for all victims, I am so sorry for what anyone have had to gone through. Another thing I am sorry about is how many of you, myself included, have been a fan of Wilbur Soot for a few years or longer. I have, and I know a lot of you also have, found comfort in Wilbur's content and who he was or who we all thought he was as a person. Like a lot of people, this is a genuine shock to me as I know it is for a lot of people who know Wilbur personally, seeing as he originally seemed like a very genuine, kind, and good-hearted person. I really looked up to Wilbur. I started watching Wilbur when I was around 10 or 11, I'm 14 now; his content helped me through a ton of different tough times, I found comfort in a lot of his streams and the things that he has posted, I thought he was a good person. This is just disappointing and it pisses me off how first of all, quite a few of you people are defending this situation and justifying or trying to justify Wilbur's actions, even though, as I'm sure most of you have seen (if you haven't, go watch), what Aimsey said on their thoughts on the allegations, this isn't some damn Twitter drama. This is real life shit that needs to be talked about and taken seriously. Don't defend Wilbur, support Shelby and all other victims of any kind of abuse. Another thing: I want to reassure all of you, all of you have supported Wilbur and found comfort in him and his content, you are NOT a bad person for that. None of us knew he was a bad person until recently; that isn't your fault, you;'re not a bad person for that, none of us could've predicted that this had happened. Last thing: Kudos to Ranboo, Aimsey, Tubbo, Jack, and everyone who has shared their thoughts on this for taking this seriously and addressing the main issues here. Thank you for anyone who read through this. Have a lovely day/night. :) Remember, support the victims. Take care. Also, thank you very much for your insights. ❤
I wanna say one thing. I have no problem with the fact that you don't wanna have Wilbur on your channel after what he done, but but Ash, Mark and Joe (other Lovejoy members) didn't do anything. They probably didn't know what he did to Shelby and other victims. So I understand you don't wanna have them on your channel because Wilbur is part of the band, but this sounded like (to me) they're all abus3rs. Otherwise, I agree with your opinion.
Please please please don’t feel guilty you didn’t know about it and I’m pretty sure that people are going to look at the date before they comment and if theydo comment they should know better to look at the date before they start assuming that you just support him Also, please don’t take those videos down tons of people are just going to continue but make an announcement that they don’t support him anymore, because you get quite a lot of views on those videos.
just to be sure, is the song "i'll look good when i'm sober" not gonna be realeased now? please, its such a good song i still wanna listen the full verse. i dont want to say i like wilbur but the song is good as it is i like the song and i still want to keep listening just cuz they are my fav genre. sure there are other artists out there but nobody was gonna make that song so if u can please atleast show what the song actually is (i just waited for that song so eagerly so yeah i might be just a person with a childish behaviour with everything happening rn but yeah.)
I'm not sure yet if the song or the debut album will be released. If it does, I think it'll be in a few months time or something, when this calmes down a little.
Imagine looking up to a person just for them to then be a mental and physical abuser... I never knew much about Wilbur Soot, apart from that he made music and his last upload was a year ago.. am i right on that? either way, biggest support for Shelby, she did nothing to deserve this. you dont need to apologise, but thankyou anyways!! its ashame how people we thought we knew can be entirely different in the real world.
@@user-dj3ys5xg9cstill we don't know anyone IRL! You met Wilbur IRL or Shelby? You cant just cancel whole fucking man's career even in past many men had ruined their life or career because of these false accusations. We can cancel him after he found guilty or went to jail. I am not telling anyone to don't support Shelby. Even I am supporting Shelby but you know you cant just cancel whole fucking person with just one person accunsons. Just wait for phil or tommys point of view in this drama
he bite and abused his ex gf dispite her saying it hurts leaving bruises and manipulating her into thinking it’s her fault.In he’s apology he didn’t apologise for what he did and kinda said i’m sorry that ur feelings were hurt
Theres nothing with Lovejoy, its just Wilbur who has made some bad (Terrible) choices. Also nothing wrong with Wilbur’s music, its just his actions that are wrong.
@@_.-Damien-._ do you really think that you should spend your time on these types of drama?? Even we don't know what is going on irl??? They just said online and you believed it and spending or getting tension about this drama. Even will is guilty and Shelby is victim but they are many more important things going on world expect this shit. They are more over 5k+ families which are getting abused and getting truma but we are still focused on these types of small abused. I would like to tell that just wait for Tommy or philza's reply on this matter and don't get into it. Trust me if will even found innocent and if Shelby playing victim card as many men already faced it in future ruined their life, you all will get regret that you are cancelling person that you don't even want to hear his side or don't even know about IRL. But if he found guilty then it's all ok and move on. Wilbur will going jail and ruining his whole life.
@@Cavencyedits will isn’t innocent because ha admitted to it you dumbass- 😭 also yes obviously im going to focus on this considering he had a massive fanbase???
@@user-dj3ys5xg9c did i ever said that i support him??? I just not cancelling him or hating him cause he is not found guilty yet. If he found guilty then I will hate him but before that he is innocent. Remember when Jonny depp also got trouble because of fake allegations and ruined his career. I don't want that another man career got ruined. Today no one is hear to listening him one time. All are hating him but anyone I will support both Shelby and will
I feel really bad for Mark, Ash and Joe. They're biggest achievement yet has been ruined because one scumbag couldn't keep his teeth to food.
True :/ BUT, if they're truly dedicated and talented and play their cards right then they can use the already massive fanbase that's been created and either carry on without Wilbur or create a new project and keep going, it's really sad for them but absolutely doesn't have to be the end for them at all
dont feel bad for them they are knowingly still supporting and playing alongside him
Honestly the whole (ex) Lovejoy fandom could probably all conquer a country together!
Ha literally, probably could
Yeah man it really sucks, poor shubble. You have a good conscience for taking down those videos
Been here since December, and I genuinely thank you for clarifying your stance on this situation. Thank you very much about all this.
Absolutely no problem at all, these issues are important to me and I wanted to make my views very clear. I really really appreciate your support with my channel too, thank you :)
@@JudeDylan ofc! i really enjoy your music and it's like a safe space for me (that sounds hella parasocial holyshit) . it's like what the dsmp or lvjy fandoms used to be like. safe, inclusive, relatively small.
Don't feel guilty you didn't know dw. 💜
it wasnt your fault, you didnt know that wilbur did that untill it came out. You shouldn't feel guilty, its all on Wilbur.
Honestly i was in the community and the community itself was ABSOLUTELY LOVELY
But I don’t really want to support someone when they’ve done a literal crime
That’s sick:/ I’ve been trying to stay silent abt it and I finally stopped absolutely sobbing like last night (American time) (as I’ve looked up to him for 3 years)
I feel why you’re guilty it isn’t your fault :)!
I know he created such a good thing :/ but it's okay!! There's plenty other places to feel accepted and just because this has gone it doesn't mean there's something else
Don’t talk about him, support her. ❤
Yeah I should have made the point better to be honest - she's the victim and is what everyone should be talking about, not him.
Thank you for making a video clarifying! props to you man!
Cant wait to follow the rest of your journey!
No worries :) Thank you so much for the support, it really means a lot :)
I mean I think it’s kind of sweet how you look up to them and it’s nice that you have your own flow of music 🎶 so you got this king 👑 and me and your fans got your back 😊
It’s funny how I found you like 10 days ago when I loved Wilbur soot and now this has happened so I’m glad there are artists in the same music that are good.❤😅
Yeah it's crazy if someone told me this would happen three weeks ago I would never have believed it
Hey, it's completely ok! What he did is really shitty and it's not your fault that you've posted videos with their names on it before the entire situation. Theres no need to apologise and the fact you've come out and talked about it means a lot :)
Support victims!!
Yes 100%, support victims. Thank you for your understanding, means a lot :) 💛💛
There is no reason for you to fell guilty, and I actually cried hearing about him because I feel the same about the community and he had such a huge impact in my life all just to see it crumble, also of course the abuse to an innocent person was just heartbreaking, and my friends just keep talking about it and I also feel horrible. I wish he was just a better person. Thank you for addressing it and remeber that you have nothing to do with him anymore and continue to make music, dont let this discourage you.
I'll absolutely not let it discourage me, I'll keep going it's just unfortunate that he was part of that journey. But as for the community that he created, I should have been more positive, because there's still a million other places to feel included - that community wasn't the only place of acceptance on the Internet, and it may take some time to find but you'll find your other people you know? :)
You don't need to feel guilty for creating videos that you were proud of, we had no way of knowing that this was going to come out. You are doing the right thing now and that's all that matters, that's all you can do. I also hate that he had to be this way and all we can do now is show support to Shelby and other victims of abuse x
3:08 god you have no idea how true that is. like as someone who is from the middle east and was trying to survive my abusive family/country while being trans and queer, his content and the community surrounding it was basically what kept me sane. and for it all to explode because he turned out to be an abuser and a money hungry monster is just...such a shame
I'm really sorry you had to go through that, I really hope you're in a better place now 💛💛
@@JudeDylan i am thank you.
It’s not ur fault, you didn’t know back then and now you do, I love your music, keep it up!
Its very mature for you do make this video and to make sure you audience knows about this. Most creators would just ignore it or not even care to take them down. Its is truly sad how he ruined a lot for himself and others around him, specially the victims lives.
It is a shame some people are how they are and make other lives a misery. But we keep moving and spreading love and one day they'll alllll be gone :)
Yo dude, isn’t this crazy? Like we all were simping over Wilbur, now we hate him, well some of us. But it’s crazy, he was the guys we all wanted to date, now the guy we want to stay away from. And bud, don’t feel guilty, you didn’t do anything wrong
Yeah we idolise these people but at the end of the day that's all they are - people. It's so sad.
i support you man none of it was your fault and you should not feel guilty!
Thank you for saying your insights on this as I know he was a big influence on a lot of people ( a bit off topic but I was thinking if you were going to say something about this today before you had posted this) I would still like to listen to his music and lovejoy but I just can’t bring myself to listen to it and my friends keep talking about him bc I used to talk about him a lot and to my keep joking about it and I want to tell them to shut up but I can’t bring myself to do it why did he have to do this?
I know, it's hard, I have some really good memories with friends of his music but they're all tainted now. A real shame. Sorry about your friends though :( I'm sure they'll stop when the whole situation calms down
Some people need to check the date of you video before attacking you.
But srs. I loved lovejoy. I haven't even listened to all of their songs because i had been replaying the same ones over and over again. Its just so sad to see what happened :/
Ha yeah they do to be honest but oh well
No because I think it was like ~2 days before I personally found out about everything that has been recently revealed, and I saw one of those posts. I love your music, and I honestly wouldn't have found it without that. Don't feel guilty about any of that, because nobody knew. I think we were all kind of shocked (I know I was).
Yeah I was completely shocked, I've loved his music for YEARS. So sad. Thank you though, I really appreciate it :)
Ok, I personally, am not taking any sides just yet until further thoughts from different people, different perspectives to look at, just to kinda get a better view on everything, to really look at it all. Cause this situation has only started to be talked about recently. Yes, there is full evidence Wilbur did what he did, Wilbur "apologized" and admit he hurt Shelby so yes, obviously, this did happen, which is really shitty. However, it is still good to get full detail on perspectives. And I just want to say, for all victims, I am so sorry for what anyone have had to gone through. Another thing I am sorry about is how many of you, myself included, have been a fan of Wilbur Soot for a few years or longer. I have, and I know a lot of you also have, found comfort in Wilbur's content and who he was or who we all thought he was as a person. Like a lot of people, this is a genuine shock to me as I know it is for a lot of people who know Wilbur personally, seeing as he originally seemed like a very genuine, kind, and good-hearted person. I really looked up to Wilbur. I started watching Wilbur when I was around 10 or 11, I'm 14 now; his content helped me through a ton of different tough times, I found comfort in a lot of his streams and the things that he has posted, I thought he was a good person. This is just disappointing and it pisses me off how first of all, quite a few of you people are defending this situation and justifying or trying to justify Wilbur's actions, even though, as I'm sure most of you have seen (if you haven't, go watch), what Aimsey said on their thoughts on the allegations, this isn't some damn Twitter drama. This is real life shit that needs to be talked about and taken seriously. Don't defend Wilbur, support Shelby and all other victims of any kind of abuse. Another thing: I want to reassure all of you, all of you have supported Wilbur and found comfort in him and his content, you are NOT a bad person for that. None of us knew he was a bad person until recently; that isn't your fault, you;'re not a bad person for that, none of us could've predicted that this had happened. Last thing: Kudos to Ranboo, Aimsey, Tubbo, Jack, and everyone who has shared their thoughts on this for taking this seriously and addressing the main issues here. Thank you for anyone who read through this. Have a lovely day/night. :) Remember, support the victims. Take care. Also, thank you very much for your insights. ❤
''not taking any sides'' yet there is ''full evidence WIlbur did what he did''. what more do you need???
I wanna say one thing. I have no problem with the fact that you don't wanna have Wilbur on your channel after what he done, but but Ash, Mark and Joe (other Lovejoy members) didn't do anything. They probably didn't know what he did to Shelby and other victims. So I understand you don't wanna have them on your channel because Wilbur is part of the band, but this sounded like (to me) they're all abus3rs. Otherwise, I agree with your opinion.
Please please please don’t feel guilty you didn’t know about it and I’m pretty sure that people are going to look at the date before they comment and if theydo comment they should know better to look at the date before they start assuming that you just support him Also, please don’t take those videos down tons of people are just going to continue but make an announcement that they don’t support him anymore, because you get quite a lot of views on those videos.
just to be sure, is the song "i'll look good when i'm sober" not gonna be realeased now? please, its such a good song i still wanna listen the full verse. i dont want to say i like wilbur but the song is good as it is i like the song and i still want to keep listening just cuz they are my fav genre. sure there are other artists out there but nobody was gonna make that song so if u can please atleast show what the song actually is (i just waited for that song so eagerly so yeah i might be just a person with a childish behaviour with everything happening rn but yeah.)
I'm not sure yet if the song or the debut album will be released. If it does, I think it'll be in a few months time or something, when this calmes down a little.
Imagine looking up to a person just for them to then be a mental and physical abuser... I never knew much about Wilbur Soot, apart from that he made music and his last upload was a year ago.. am i right on that? either way, biggest support for Shelby, she did nothing to deserve this. you dont need to apologise, but thankyou anyways!! its ashame how people we thought we knew can be entirely different in the real world.
Yes absolutely, support Shelby, support victims!!
Thxs
Allegations by the way. Not knowing if they're true or not + No evidence. So why is everyone not remaining speculative?
Actually Wilbur admitted it on twitter if you didn’t see so is all true and not allegations
@@user-dj3ys5xg9cstill we don't know anyone IRL! You met Wilbur IRL or Shelby? You cant just cancel whole fucking man's career even in past many men had ruined their life or career because of these false accusations. We can cancel him after he found guilty or went to jail. I am not telling anyone to don't support Shelby. Even I am supporting Shelby but you know you cant just cancel whole fucking person with just one person accunsons. Just wait for phil or tommys point of view in this drama
Again is not allegations when Wilbur admitted on twitter my fucking god your not supporting Shelby at this point
What did he do , I don't know? Can anyone explain it
he bite and abused his ex gf dispite her saying it hurts leaving bruises and manipulating her into thinking it’s her fault.In he’s apology he didn’t apologise for what he did and kinda said i’m sorry that ur feelings were hurt
@@maxon1712 oh...well..thanks for telling me...
@@susancarey-wj7qd yeah it’s not great all support to shelby
i dont wanna hate on wilbur until some actual proof comes out since its all just accusations
Theres nothing with Lovejoy, its just Wilbur who has made some bad (Terrible) choices. Also nothing wrong with Wilbur’s music, its just his actions that are wrong.
Which beatles member is this
I simply am the beatle
@@JudeDylan thanks for the clarification
ima still watch/llisten to his shit, idc abt drama
He literally abused his girlfriend bro
@@_.-Damien-._ do you really think that you should spend your time on these types of drama?? Even we don't know what is going on irl??? They just said online and you believed it and spending or getting tension about this drama. Even will is guilty and Shelby is victim but they are many more important things going on world expect this shit. They are more over 5k+ families which are getting abused and getting truma but we are still focused on these types of small abused. I would like to tell that just wait for Tommy or philza's reply on this matter and don't get into it. Trust me if will even found innocent and if Shelby playing victim card as many men already faced it in future ruined their life, you all will get regret that you are cancelling person that you don't even want to hear his side or don't even know about IRL. But if he found guilty then it's all ok and move on. Wilbur will going jail and ruining his whole life.
@@Cavencyedits will isn’t innocent because ha admitted to it you dumbass- 😭 also yes obviously im going to focus on this considering he had a massive fanbase???
@@Cavencyedits you are literally supporting a abuser 🙄
@@user-dj3ys5xg9c did i ever said that i support him??? I just not cancelling him or hating him cause he is not found guilty yet. If he found guilty then I will hate him but before that he is innocent. Remember when Jonny depp also got trouble because of fake allegations and ruined his career. I don't want that another man career got ruined. Today no one is hear to listening him one time. All are hating him but anyone I will support both Shelby and will