The Luke Mitchell Murder Case (Part 1)
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- James English, The Anything Goes Show. Ep 41.
James speaks to Sandra Lean about her 16-year fight to get Luke Mitchell a re-trial.
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Looks like justice will be done, this man deserves a retrial. James thanks for bringing this story to the masses
James you have done a great thing shedding light on the darkness the police has caused and this woman is a angel
Welldone big man ...... 👌🏻
That woman is a con artist & is laughing all the way to the bank on your dollars
@@bethryan9077piss of with your shit
My own brother and family suffered one of Scotlands biggest miscarriages of justice in Scottish history in the so-called ICE-CREAM WARS. Listening to her has left me feeling anxious and disturbed. Like she said " what if it were your son?"what an eye-opener,what a Woman,what a Travesty of justice - and what a shame for that kid luke!
Defo pal. Respect yeah watched few things abt Joe glad he got his libaration take care M8 fae greenock
Joe’s support of Luke during his James English interview has brought it to the attention of thousands of folk. Well done James and Joe 👏🏻
@@arthurgoat1184 defo M8 was thinking that myself 💪
That so-called kid was not who some think. See my long reply to Roro, you will know some Truths about this case & why he is where he is.
If you're interested in justice for Jodi's family please read my post to 'roro' on here
Never enough evidence to charge Luke case was a sham . Thanks for another great episode .
Hands Up Don't Shoot 👍🏼
Delays in justice is injustice. This lad needs liberated. 🏴⚖️
THANK YOU!!
Without incriminating anyone, several court admin employees said there was no evidence to link LM to the crime. This case was an example of police not knowng how to carry out a murder investigation and the courts overall lack of justice. What sickens me about this case is the "achievement for solving the case" lead to certain folk progressing their careers with undeserving promotions. The justice system in Scotland is designed to fail so these free mason curupt individuals can remain in power and prosper.
You don't incriminate people if they are telling the truth you fucking idiot. Funny that eh?
Stop trying to make conversation with hearsay and bullshite
James, Firstly let me congratulate you. Any case that involves "Beasts" is a touchy subject. The boy may be innocent or he may be guilty however he doesn't appear to have had a fair trial. You have put your credibility on the line by being brave enough to highlight that this trial was flawed from the start. I don't know if he is innocent or guilty but i do believe there is a lot of unanswered questions and that the case must be reviewed and possibly reopened. Well done mate.
And as usual...the keystone cops were involved.
What...this way?....that way?.....oops...didn't mean to contaminate the crime scene.
There's a reason it's called....the CRIMINAL justice system.
.......and promptly ruined his credibility by saying, he understands people " wanting to do unspeakable things to those whom they consider to be 'guiltier of evil 'than they themselves are ....! "
What price buying into the system of personal power and one person's power over another, in place of standing up for the rule of law ( ie social policy ) : Instead of vying for our own personal position of power in a system of arbitrary power by person : not by publicly owned policy .
Hypocritical , sanctimonious F.W. IMO .
@@pennyfulton3418 I disagree, however i understand what you are saying. James i think rather crudely was inferring that wider society's position and attitudes are a crass reflection of society itself. It came across as Judge less ye be judged. He certainly didn't do himself justice with his inarticulate meanderings. I think he was clumsy but with the best of intentions.
@@williammurphyslaw Well ! yes william , but as the saying goes " The road to hell is paved with 'good intentions ' "
There really IS nothing 'good ' in the intention to punish ( anyone ) ! Don't you see that it is the prison system that is the evil , not individuals : as ever it is the dominant ideology that enables all harm :
Without ideological power, all persons are powerless to effect any influence on the world whatsoever , including upon ourselves ....
@@pennyfulton3418 I disagree, its the nefarious actions of men that are evil, whether that be a criminal or the criminality of the Justice system when dealing with said criminals. I believe in the ideology of do the crime do the time.
Im from england but was living in edinburgh at the time of this case and i am so shocked to learn of all the police mistakes , james you have opened my eyes so much thank you mate and goodluck to this brave decent human being who has spent 16yrs trying to get justice for all parties involved. James il spread this podcast as public need to be aware . Peace n respect from coventry pal.
mark darcy cheers mark 👍🏼
She's a scam artist, she wrote a book of BS for profit that's all. She wrote one before, it was so full of lies & misinformation, she was made to pull every single one from the shelves & the back alleys. She did a course & learnt about litigation laws & started again. Her hypnotism courses were for the TV camera & so, all the Garbage on Utube.
@@bethryan9077 generally people who write books do something called 'sell' them. It's quite common practice these days. There are even these fantastic little establishments called 'book shops' this is typically where people sell such items.
@@lmisinnocent4469 Yes, book shops sell books of Fiction, she knows the Drill.
Loved this interview! Thank you for bringing it us. I’m from that area and as a kid used to walk that way to the local swimming pool, so this to me is very interesting!
HOPE THE TRUTH COMES OUT FOR EVERY 1 INVOLVED. GREAT PODCAST AS USUAL JAMES 👍👍
bully grham thank you
What a interview , I didn’t read any off her evidence in the paper or online anytime through this case this is a first and what a interview. It was.
Peter Swift 👍🏼
There is too much wrong with this case. It really needs to be reinvestigated.
Good on you for highlighting it!
He's a creepy wee bugger I think he did it. Teachers school pals folk who knew him spoke about his violent tendencies
@@debbiemontague2355 so hes guilty cause you think he is creepy? Jesus christ.
@@debbiemontague2355 cause that's evidence eh lol 😆
@@P00kles Teachers semt him to guidance due to his satanic scribblings and behaviour with knives. Its in the court documents. Sandra said hes only thrown a chocolate bar. Lies.
@@ourwilliam2405 Every depressed kid i knew from school did stupid stuff like that when heavy metal was popular, doesn't mean anything. Usually that sort of people turn out to be the harmless ones
Remember the case well, remember following it in the papers etc and thinking at the time, something just isn't right about this case, things don't add up. Another good job James.
How disgusting that a mother can't comfort her son in his hour of need without people thinking there is something perverted going on, innocent or guilty this boy deserves a new trial, laughable police work
Luke Mitchell---A misscarriage of justice?
Posted on 7 September 2022 Premiers at 4.15pm Wednesday.
Read Scott Forbes book A Long Walk to Justice. It is an account of the circumstances, arrest and conviction of Luke Mitchell for the murder of his girlfriend Jodie Jones. Both Luke and Jodie were 14 years old at the time of her brutal homicide in June 2003.
Scott Forbes has been Luke’s lawyer since 2010. He has though been close to the case since 2003. In his book Scott highlights many aspects of the case that cast doubt on the veracity of Luke’s conviction. Indeed, some of the glaring mistakes by Lothian and Border Police make one wonder why Luke was even a suspect in the first place.
The circumstances surrounding Jodie’s brutal murder are so bizarre I doubt even a crime writing novelist would attempt to push such things to their readers. The catalogue of errors, missteps, omissions, assumptions by the police are really quite unbelievable.
The most important aspect to any murder scene is to secure the crime scene. One of the most important aspects of securing the crime scene is to preserve the scene with minimal contamination and disturbance of physical evidence. First Responders to an incident should document the placement and/or movement of items at the scene. None of this basic stuff was done properly by the police on the scene that night. The body was dragged along the ground. Branches from trees were cut away to allow the police photographer better views for his pictures! These are only two of the many mistakes made at the scene.
This was at the outset of the investigation and sadly, from there it went downhill. Witnesses that should have been questioned were not. People who had been at the scene were allowed to go home in the clothes they were wearing with no forensics taken from them. Subsequently and in some cases rapidly these garments were washed thereby destroying valuable forensic evidence.
Several individuals that had been spotted in and around the crime scene were not question at the time. Indeed, some were not even questioned till years after Luke Mitchell had been convicted and sentenced to 20 years to life in prison.
Alibis were created, statements were altered, crucial evidence discounted. The list of fatal mistakes and pure incompetence are too many to list. Information was leaked to the press, and they did a job on a 14-year-old boy and his family. Lies and false information were fed to the public via the Scottish gutter press.We all know how our media love to dig and dish the dirt.
This is a taste of the kind of headlines the Daily Record had been producing from the day of crime. It transpired the Record hack was a close friend of the leading investigator, DI Dobbie and we can only assume the source of her information.
Despite numerous other possible suspects the police determined from the night Jodie’s body was discovered that Luke was ‘their man.’ Indeed, DS Dobbie in charge of the investigation told his underlings to take Luke in and give him the ‘ full treatment.’ A 14-year-old child that had never been in trouble with the police in his life. He was exposed to this ‘full treatment’ by the police without a responsible adult beside him every step of the way. Luke was a Goth and the police thought he looked weird. That it seems was enough for the investigators to ignore any other suspects.
One crucial thing to note, not a shred of DNA or any other forensic evidence was found on Luke, his clothes or on Jodie! He was convicted on circumstantial evidence, police testimony and Daily Record bile!
Scott writes in far greater detail the circumstances around poor Jodie’s discovery, Luke’s arrest and subsequent conviction. I would advise you all to get a copy of his book and make up your own mind. This could just be the biggest ever miscarriage of justice in Scottish legal history.
I was able to speak with Scott this week and below is that interview. I would appreciate if you would listen to what Scott has to say. Then you will be free to make up your own mind.
Most importantly in all of this is Jodie Jones herself a 14-year-old child. Brutally murdered with over 300 wounds, her body mutilated in a most cruel manner and left dumped in a wood. Is another child capable of such a crime? Several criminologists, retired murder detectives and even the FBI don’t think so! Has justice served Jodie well or has justice only served its own needs, you decide?
@@My2Tube22 Daily Express, Sun, May, 2012:
But one of Mitchell's former girlfriends, who says he attacked her with a knife just weeks before Jodi's murder, yesterday dismissed his latest claims of innocence.
Kara Van Nuil is adamant that her ex-boyfriend did kill Jodi, and also revealed she is terrified that Mitchell will attempt to track her down on his release.
The 24-year-old, who believes that her decision to end the relationship probably saved her life, has now moved away from Midlothian in an attempt to avoid being found.
Ms Van Nuil, who was 16 when she dated Mitchell, maintains that he pressed a blade to her neck during an Army Cadet Force platoon meeting.
With the other cadets enjoying a snack break outside the hut, Mitchell is said to have grabbed Ms Van Nuil from behind, turned her round and forced a penknife to her throat.
"There's not one part of me that thinks he isn't guilty," she said. "Because of the way he was with me that day, I don't have a doubt in my mind at all. It definitely was him.
"He is so strong and he can easily hold someone down like me. I'm tiny and I'm sure Jodi was the same. I had no power to fight back.
"He is a very disturbed boy," she continued. "He looked up to Marilyn Manson, who is strange
@@bethryan9077 you piss of with your lies. STEPH HALL .
i enjoyed the interview. It's always good to hear more than one side of a story.
Rachel Buchan 👍🏼
Wow man, great interview James. I remember this case well and thinking he was guilty at the time, totally changed my mind after seeing this. Looking back I was totally swayed by the media just shows how much of a powerful tool they are.
I was exactly the same. I was convinced L.M killed Jodi(. To be fair, back then We didn't really know about"fake news" and media manipulation" like We do now) I'm not convinced of Luke's guilt at all now. There needs to be a re-trial for Luke, the Families, the public's sake, and for Jodi! She needs her justice too
@@TheOnlyElle. You say - 'back then we didn't really know about fake news & media manipulation like we do now'. But, this loser - Is The Media lovey. LMAO. Lying Leany & that so-called mother have Manipulated the hell out of people like You. Doh.
So, you were Not in court at any stage & you know Nothing about the Case Evidence but you have watched a 'show' on your screen & decided you know Luke the puke is innocent. Jeez.
@@bethryan9077 You assume a Lot. It's Friday, it's 6pm and a beautiful night. You must be very, very bored and lonely before All You have to do, on a Friday evening, is pick fights on CZcams with strangers. Bless Your heart- what a lonely al Woman you must be. Where's Your Kid's? Or Your Grandbairns? Don't they visit You on a weekend? When My lovely Granny was alive I could Not wait to go and visit her at the weekends! She was so lovely!! Have You not got some old Pals to visit? Go and enjoy a night at the bingo with them? Instead of trying to bully folk on CZcams?? Ashame, I feel heart sorry for You, Beth 😔
@@bethryan9077 wow you really have it in for the boy a was in court and been through everything there's more evidence on Jodi's brother than any other person documents state he held a knife to his mum and hit Jodi stopped taking his meds was released from a secure hospital 5weeks earlier
Don't just get his freedom, go after those police responsible for the stitch-up!
Lying Leany has done a good job on the naive, the ignorant & the stupid. That highly sadistic killer is where he will likely Never leave from, such was the abhorrent premeditated murder of this Child.
This channel is the most underrated channel on YT, deserves millions of subscribers! Big up James on the AG Show💯
Rory Colman thank you for the support brother 🙏🏼
No problem mate, Al do ma best to share ur content as much as possible💯 keep the great vids coming pls bro🤙🏽
Magic podcast again James, really enjoy watching your stuff here in NY.
Mark Clarke thanks mark
Thanks again James...i watch all your stuff i really like the way you do these podcasts. Respect by far.
Denise Gow thank you
i remember convicting him before trial like the rest of Scotland , guy in my work knew his dad and told me he was innocent after that i had open mind ad looked into it and truly believed he was innocent that was 2003 , sad
For Jodie’s family , a massive Hug and best of wishes for the future and the Truth. James , well done for having the balls to put this up for debate. Sandra, my respects for your time and years of searching for the Truth.Having done years myself behind bars for being Guilty I may say, I can’t even start to think how a man, young man at that , serve a life sentence for being innocent of the crime. I pray this lad gets out and justice is done.Once again the press and the media fkn someone,s life’s up.
@@user-qt3fc9oe4p sorry to learn that Amy x
He's as guilty as the day is long, don't be so friggin Daft.
I’m on part 2 of this and I’m getting really frustrated because everyone is going on about how much this girl’s family is hurting.. If this was my daughter I would want the truth.. I would not settle if I had questions. Surely you would want the person who did it and to know you have the right person without a doubt??? If anyone in my family was murdered I would not rest until the proper person was held responsible. That girl family puzzles me more and more!!!!! At the end of the day it’s justice for Jodi we should be looking for not for her family to feel like something has been done… there are so many questions and it seems like her own family don’t give a shit.. it’s frustrating
By part 4, you'll be so frustrated, the number one suspect is named
It's a rabbit hole ... depressing and sad. Anxiety. Despair. 100% innocent. That's a fact... its unforgivable...
Absolutely Karen. Having watched this series of interviews if it were my daughter I would be DEMANDING the case to be looked at.
God forbid, this ever happened to my daughter and a guy was put away BUT later a lot of evidence pointed to the guy being innocent I would be going "mental" thinking that the animal who had done it was still walking free.
@@graham.cathcart it is very possible that Jodi was Murderd by more than one person. Lawyers ect reckon Jodi was murdered then taken to were the Body was found. 5 ltrs blood was never looked for. 3 full dna profiles, saliva and hairs on Jodi. Still to be found.?
@@graham.cathcart And you believe someone who wrote a book for their own financial gain because?
Cracking podcast totally changed my mind on this Luke deserves a retrial cheers James
Ross Stirling 👍🏼
Couldn't agree more. Brilliant
Once again james has given us an insight into something we would have never known well done fantastic interview 🙏🏻❤️
Gallus Kirsty I never knew 99% of what wasn’t said at his trial or as evidence he needs a retrial 🏴💙
Definitely this has to happen asap
Gallus Kirsty I’m with you on this one it has to happen take note Scottish crown office the lad is innocent #freelukemitchell
Gallus Kirsty 👍🏼
James English would u consider Luke’s mum on the show
Quality as ever james i knew a few boys who were in the same jail as luke mate alot of prisinors and ex prisoners do believe he is innocent theres alot of corruption and if he does deserve a retrial i hope he gets a retrial if hes innocent keep up the good work james bro 👌👍👏
GLASGOW RANGERS 👍🏼
hope the truth comes out for every 1 involved. 👍
@Billy Big Bollocks come on now,the way you are talking it sounds like you have never heard of miscarriages of justice,retrials,mistrials appeals,the birmingham six, nelson mandela's incarcination or, and this one's for you now, watched the green mile!
You have done a great thing to highlight this case...
Here's hoping this brings significant longterm change... Wishing this lad luck
Pleaseeeeeè do an interview with Scott forbes
I’M GRATEFUL THAT SANDRA LEAN HAS CLEARLY POINTED OUT THE “MANY ERRORS OF POLICE”....& THAT SHE KEEPS AN OPEN MIND ABOUT THIS CASE...AS WE ALL MUST!!! CHEERS FROM 🇨🇦
Do you know Scotland in the UK has a case just as bad as the West Memphis 3? The What makes it worse is we do not have access to police interviews and other FOIA things like court transcripts etc.
I do have this interview with the Scottish criminologist and legal expert Dr Sandra Lean who has had access to everthing, she has been fighting for Luke Mitchell for 17 years for free. She lived in the area and was afraid that the real killer is free to kill more children as she had girls around the same age as the victim Jodi Jones.
Luke was 14 at the time that his 14-year-old girlfriend Jodi was found brutally murdered, Jodi was discovered during a search for her lead by her family and Luke they stumbled appon a truly horrified scene.
The media used the devil theory like the WM3 because Luke had a nirvana T-shirt and enjoyed metal music Satanic Panic in Scotland it was relentless, the press were allowed to use pictures of the 14 years old with salacious headlines.
Unfortunately, they failed to mention the fact when saying it was a brutal crime and Jodi fought back that Luke had no wounds whatsoever.
The pathologist said she bled to death and the killer would have been covered in blood. None of Jodi's blood was found on Luke or his home and none of Luke's DNA was found at the scene yet in 2003 at the time of the incident 5 other DNA profiles where found on and around Jodi.
After around a year and a half of the media saying he was guilty without any evidence every day in every news paper, he really had no hope of a fair trial he was already convicted by public opinion before the trial had even started. Unsurprisingly he was found guilty.
Just to let you understand Luke is in prison for the rest of his life unless he confesses which he has no intention of doing, he is stubborn and proud and completely Innocent even a polygraph said he was innocent. Would you confess to something you did not do?
If you want to know more please have a look at my video with Dr Sandra Lean.
czcams.com/video/5W0fnJqhih0/video.html
Thank u from scotland, right close to where this beastality occurecd. Im pretty sure 'bout what ah believe but WE must keep an open mind. We werent there so we dont know anythin for the real. Only cunts that do were there or have some K cos they were forced to play the game about what THE TRUTH IS. A narritve has been flung out there n the gullable bite. Anyone that thinks/ beliveves Mitchell is guilty ? Jus as bad as the people that screwin us all, u however got the 3rd eye vision. Thank u for sayin what u believe/ kin see or hear wif your own conscience instead of fallin for the bullshit that been spun by media whatever. Again ah reach ma hand across the oceans for u keepin it real, the way u see it point blank.
@@Sharon_Indy still keepin it real ma friend. But sorry on the same hand cos i cant comment more than i have ( if u look u member who i am ) but i cant say anymore cos i already hud someone houndin me on youtube about MK havin an alibi. Maybe u kin help me out here but i never heard about MK huvin an alibi. Member i grew up in gilmerton. I wont the truth to come out but i value my life. I need to know im at least on the right path. But plz dont respond if u think it could put u in THERE sights. Its jus enough to know u believe im not potty. Im jus sayin what i believe n what i have heard. Whatever but this case as always touched my heart like a cardio surgeon. Keep up the fight but at the same time keep your head down. If the corruptness is as deep as iv ALWAYS believed dont respond. Jus know YOUR HEART is where its meant to be. Stay safe my friend n never think these corrupt MF dont have a reach. If we say too much but were pretty much out the spotlight, were indespencable. May the Almighty keep u safe xx
@@marilynrobertson17 YOU MAKE SOME EXCELLENT POINTS!!! CHEERS FROM🇨🇦. HAPPY NEW YEAR
@@Sharon_Indy She is No legal expert Nor a criminologist. She does Not have access to everything, she has some papers about the appeals. Luke Took the family to the body. He was nearly 15 btw. He was into Satan & even though he had a free ride at a Catholic school, he had Satanic writings & drawings all over his text books & wrote such an abhorrent essay about same, the teacher wanted him to have counselling. They put his picture out to warn the public, especially the girls. Jodi did Not fight back & that is just another blatant lie put about by sandra Lean. Jodi's fingernails had No damage & neither did her knuckles. He hit Jodi so hard on the head with a blunt weapon, it cause a contusion on the brain. He knocked her out First & then carried on with his premeditated Plan. The pathologist did Not Say the killer would have been covered in blood. He was behind her when he did the deep cut to the throat & this is evidenced by the blood on the wall. Afew cuts were before death, most after. We don't bleed when we're dead. There were 20 Chapters of evidence against him but you won't hear any from Lean. That is bs that Lean spread, saying he has to confess to get out. His highly sadistic crime was so heinous & wicked is likely he will never get out. The fact that his so-called mother tried to cover up what he did, helped get him convicted & a longer sentence. sandra organised that polygraph & he & Corrine had plenty of time to learn what to do to trick it. That's IF the wanker who did it is telling the truth btw. Watch how they Both close their mouths after each no, hilarious. Yes, she tells the same bs, same bat channel
A very eye opening and interesting one this dude. Personally I think hes been used as a scapegoat, the police ballsed up and knew they had to blame someone. Most people automatically think guilty based on what we see in the media but look at Joe and TC who did 20 years. Totally feel for this wee guy now if he is innocent. Very interesting, thanks James
Ross Hill 👍🏼
because the police allowed evidence to be washed away when they left jodis body uncovered in the rain all night you mean? makes sense actually
As if the police would stitch up a lad & let a vicious child killer run around. Get a Grip you people. WHY do people believe a woman who wrote a book for her own financial gain? Jeeez
@@TheBunniechannel Why do you instantly believe All this woman says? She wrote a friggin book! She makes Money from that book yeah? BTW - it had already poured rain that night, but don't tell sandra I told you that. lol. Oh & the body was under a canopy of branches & leaves. Woops, I let that slip.
Yes wee is the word , he had 20 plus jars of it stashed under his bed.
Great storys james as always was looking forward to this from a diffrent view.
I can’t believe how Luke’s Mum has aged and it’s no wonder. What a terrible time she’s been through (and she is still suffering) and it has clearly taken its toll. God bless and help her. Luke too. I believe Luke is innocent and I hope he will be reunited with his mum soon 🙏🏻🦋
Her Guilt is why she looks as she does. She tried hard to cover up what her beast of a son did, she failed.
Another top podcast James pal 👍 cannae believe its been this long since this happened tbh i cant remember much of this as i was in an addiction bubble att😟 but i do remember presuming guilt due to msm,im gonna have a good look into this maself.
Take it easy James n look forward to the next P.C
✌💙👍 From the Capital 🙋
Yes do, sandra is a con artist & this is only about her making money from her books of BS.
Brilliant interview I thought he was guilty but no way has he done it. Great work James 👍🏻👍🏻
Tracey Muir 👍🏼
Oh did you miss the part where James asked her to tell him some evidence of the case & she refused
I am shook by this, remember it so well it’s unreal that this has gone on and just been left and someone’s walking the streets that done it
The integrity of the Scottish Criminal Justice System is brought into serious question with the absolute shocking conviction of this totally innocent person. This poor lad has spent the last 17 years behind bars on the absolute piss poor circumstancial evidence which would have been thrown out of any Law Court in a Banana republic. The channel 5 documentary broadcast over the past 48 hours has thrown substantial doubt on the safety of this conviction. Luke's case should be referred back to the SCCRC immediately. Hope Luke and his Mother get the Justice they finally deserve.
What worries me about this case is there's someone out there that is guilty of Jodi's death who's actually got away with it because the police fucked up and the media are sickening what they get away with
And they are still out there
Don't be so friggin Ridiculous, he was Convicted with 20 Chapters of evidence against him, which is a whole lot for one defendant. A high court judge & jury heard & saw what he Did, you daft buggers have been sucked in by Lying Leany who said Whatever just to Line Her Pockets. That highly sadistic lowlife Punk, is where he will more than likely Never get out.
No one is out there.. the killer is in jail.
Luke Mitchell did it.
@@blairrobert3438 I was probably you that did it ya clown!
This case would make a great Netflix documentary and also give it the exposure it deserves
Making a murderer, Steven Avery type case
Channel 5 released a 2 part documentary just recently. It’s called ‘Murder in a Small Town’ for anyone who is interested.
@@ZeeMatrix Yes Corrine made the murderer
@@bassethoundmom That is so bias it was reported to Ofcam. It is All about the book of nothing that this scam artist wrote
@@bethryan9077 haha I like it.
Horrendous crime, however magnificently conducted interviews James 👏
Defo a retrial has to be done, shocking!!
I genuinely think the boy is innocent. Some really strange forces at work in this whole case and the media have a lot to answer for also. The whole thing is heartbreaking for both families. I hope justice can be done someday soon.
Lol
It's should be about time the media also is gonna be held responsible for their contributions to the miscarriages of justice, they have a responsibility for what they send out to the world.....an responsibility to be truthful! And not to become a contributor to injustice and become part of the problem! When they were contributing and so they weren't critical, which is part of their job, being critical, then they should be held responsible too....only when people are held responsible things can change. When nobody is held responsible history will repeat itself....as history has proven to do so!
@@fakechannel7751 how's that funny ya idiot
@@ryandonaghey7189 Ryan ya we beast shut yer face
@@fakechannel7751 haha listen tae the fucxxxg big man wae nae name ya fud
This podcast was in the paper the day after you put this up @James English keep up the good work bro 👏
Who are Glasgow rangers?
She's coming on our live podcast tomorrow night at 8pm GMT. Should be a really telling interview.
Yes she will be telling More furbies
James English takes balls to stick yourself out and take these kind of interviews on.
That’s why you are the best my man. Your choice in football team could be better 🤪😝👍
Nice one again James, evidence was always thin on this case,would be interesting to know what the split in the jury was...
soulbrother61 👍🏼
Luke Mitchell---A misscarriage of justice?
Posted on 7 September 2022 Premiers at 4.15pm Wednesday.
Read Scott Forbes book A Long Walk to Justice. It is an account of the circumstances, arrest and conviction of Luke Mitchell for the murder of his girlfriend Jodie Jones. Both Luke and Jodie were 14 years old at the time of her brutal homicide in June 2003.
Scott Forbes has been Luke’s lawyer since 2010. He has though been close to the case since 2003. In his book Scott highlights many aspects of the case that cast doubt on the veracity of Luke’s conviction. Indeed, some of the glaring mistakes by Lothian and Border Police make one wonder why Luke was even a suspect in the first place.
The circumstances surrounding Jodie’s brutal murder are so bizarre I doubt even a crime writing novelist would attempt to push such things to their readers. The catalogue of errors, missteps, omissions, assumptions by the police are really quite unbelievable.
The most important aspect to any murder scene is to secure the crime scene. One of the most important aspects of securing the crime scene is to preserve the scene with minimal contamination and disturbance of physical evidence. First Responders to an incident should document the placement and/or movement of items at the scene. None of this basic stuff was done properly by the police on the scene that night. The body was dragged along the ground. Branches from trees were cut away to allow the police photographer better views for his pictures! These are only two of the many mistakes made at the scene.
This was at the outset of the investigation and sadly, from there it went downhill. Witnesses that should have been questioned were not. People who had been at the scene were allowed to go home in the clothes they were wearing with no forensics taken from them. Subsequently and in some cases rapidly these garments were washed thereby destroying valuable forensic evidence.
Several individuals that had been spotted in and around the crime scene were not question at the time. Indeed, some were not even questioned till years after Luke Mitchell had been convicted and sentenced to 20 years to life in prison.
Alibis were created, statements were altered, crucial evidence discounted. The list of fatal mistakes and pure incompetence are too many to list. Information was leaked to the press, and they did a job on a 14-year-old boy and his family. Lies and false information were fed to the public via the Scottish gutter press.We all know how our media love to dig and dish the dirt.
This is a taste of the kind of headlines the Daily Record had been producing from the day of crime. It transpired the Record hack was a close friend of the leading investigator, DI Dobbie and we can only assume the source of her information.
Despite numerous other possible suspects the police determined from the night Jodie’s body was discovered that Luke was ‘their man.’ Indeed, DS Dobbie in charge of the investigation told his underlings to take Luke in and give him the ‘ full treatment.’ A 14-year-old child that had never been in trouble with the police in his life. He was exposed to this ‘full treatment’ by the police without a responsible adult beside him every step of the way. Luke was a Goth and the police thought he looked weird. That it seems was enough for the investigators to ignore any other suspects.
One crucial thing to note, not a shred of DNA or any other forensic evidence was found on Luke, his clothes or on Jodie! He was convicted on circumstantial evidence, police testimony and Daily Record bile!
Scott writes in far greater detail the circumstances around poor Jodie’s discovery, Luke’s arrest and subsequent conviction. I would advise you all to get a copy of his book and make up your own mind. This could just be the biggest ever miscarriage of justice in Scottish legal history.
I was able to speak with Scott this week and below is that interview. I would appreciate if you would listen to what Scott has to say. Then you will be free to make up your own mind.
Most importantly in all of this is Jodie Jones herself a 14-year-old child. Brutally murdered with over 300 wounds, her body mutilated in a most cruel manner and left dumped in a wood. Is another child capable of such a crime? Several criminologists, retired murder detectives and even the FBI don’t think so! Has justice served Jodie well or has justice only served its own needs, you decide?
Another Great Interview from this young Lad... Always asks the Questions others avoid! Hope these podcasts lead to Bigger Better things 🤗
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Another cracking podcast James... well done bro 👌🏻
Luke Mitchell---A misscarriage of justice?
Posted on 7 September 2022 Premiers at 4.15pm Wednesday.
Read Scott Forbes book A Long Walk to Justice. It is an account of the circumstances, arrest and conviction of Luke Mitchell for the murder of his girlfriend Jodie Jones. Both Luke and Jodie were 14 years old at the time of her brutal homicide in June 2003.
Scott Forbes has been Luke’s lawyer since 2010. He has though been close to the case since 2003. In his book Scott highlights many aspects of the case that cast doubt on the veracity of Luke’s conviction. Indeed, some of the glaring mistakes by Lothian and Border Police make one wonder why Luke was even a suspect in the first place.
The circumstances surrounding Jodie’s brutal murder are so bizarre I doubt even a crime writing novelist would attempt to push such things to their readers. The catalogue of errors, missteps, omissions, assumptions by the police are really quite unbelievable.
The most important aspect to any murder scene is to secure the crime scene. One of the most important aspects of securing the crime scene is to preserve the scene with minimal contamination and disturbance of physical evidence. First Responders to an incident should document the placement and/or movement of items at the scene. None of this basic stuff was done properly by the police on the scene that night. The body was dragged along the ground. Branches from trees were cut away to allow the police photographer better views for his pictures! These are only two of the many mistakes made at the scene.
This was at the outset of the investigation and sadly, from there it went downhill. Witnesses that should have been questioned were not. People who had been at the scene were allowed to go home in the clothes they were wearing with no forensics taken from them. Subsequently and in some cases rapidly these garments were washed thereby destroying valuable forensic evidence.
Several individuals that had been spotted in and around the crime scene were not question at the time. Indeed, some were not even questioned till years after Luke Mitchell had been convicted and sentenced to 20 years to life in prison.
Alibis were created, statements were altered, crucial evidence discounted. The list of fatal mistakes and pure incompetence are too many to list. Information was leaked to the press, and they did a job on a 14-year-old boy and his family. Lies and false information were fed to the public via the Scottish gutter press.We all know how our media love to dig and dish the dirt.
This is a taste of the kind of headlines the Daily Record had been producing from the day of crime. It transpired the Record hack was a close friend of the leading investigator, DI Dobbie and we can only assume the source of her information.
Despite numerous other possible suspects the police determined from the night Jodie’s body was discovered that Luke was ‘their man.’ Indeed, DS Dobbie in charge of the investigation told his underlings to take Luke in and give him the ‘ full treatment.’ A 14-year-old child that had never been in trouble with the police in his life. He was exposed to this ‘full treatment’ by the police without a responsible adult beside him every step of the way. Luke was a Goth and the police thought he looked weird. That it seems was enough for the investigators to ignore any other suspects.
One crucial thing to note, not a shred of DNA or any other forensic evidence was found on Luke, his clothes or on Jodie! He was convicted on circumstantial evidence, police testimony and Daily Record bile!
Scott writes in far greater detail the circumstances around poor Jodie’s discovery, Luke’s arrest and subsequent conviction. I would advise you all to get a copy of his book and make up your own mind. This could just be the biggest ever miscarriage of justice in Scottish legal history.
I was able to speak with Scott this week and below is that interview. I would appreciate if you would listen to what Scott has to say. Then you will be free to make up your own mind.
Most importantly in all of this is Jodie Jones herself a 14-year-old child. Brutally murdered with over 300 wounds, her body mutilated in a most cruel manner and left dumped in a wood. Is another child capable of such a crime? Several criminologists, retired murder detectives and even the FBI don’t think so! Has justice served Jodie well or has justice only served its own needs, you decide?
I am only 27:52 into this first episode after only hearing about this case today as part 4 came up as a suggestion, and already, this is screaming police incompetence. This is a small village/town with its first big-profile murder case, and the commanding officer closed the case in his/her mind from the very beginning. That kid was getting slammed with a murder charge whilst dick features were labelled a hero for solving this horrendous crime, and quickly and efficiently, which allowed the family to grieve. It's clear from hearing this much that they did nothing in the way of investigative work even whilst there was so much evidence staring at them in the face. So far, it seems that the poor girl's family are the "weird" lot. So sad, but I hope justice is served.
Each interview gets more interesting, your stuffs spot on mate keep it going👍🏽
Well done James good on Sandra lean 👏
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Poor Jodi and poor Luke, someone has got away with murder, shocking from the police.
Well done for speaking up for the innocent
He is guilty & people need to research themselves instead of believing this Charlatan who just makes money from her book of BS, about Nothing
No even watched yet, but a lawyer once said to me "the crown have questions to answer, in the eyes of the crown he was always going to get a guilty" to me I took it to be that "justice" would be seen to be done. I mean no a fair trial.. whether or not he done it.. he wis getting done, alas no the first n no the last
The biggest fit up in Scotland.
Nat Frazer was another fit up , evidence very very thin and police caught lying about the ring in bathroom would normally clear any man
soulbrother61 Nat Fraser are u having a laugh
@@woody816 Not saying he didn't do it but the evidence against him was very very thin, nothing there, the ring in the bathroom evidence was shocking , yes he had a good motive but the crown have to prove the case and as for the jury well the only way he was getting a fair trial if the case was heard in Hong Kong....
@@benwrong6855 megrahi was a scapegoat, guy never done that and everyone knew that.
Check out the William Gage case. Guy has done 20 years I think now. Total dodgy case
I remember being extremely angry at the way it was reported. Trial by media cause sentences to be unlawful
Great interview James. And thanks to Sandra for being so candid about the case.
I was a young teen in Glasgow when Jodie Jones was so brutally killed. Vividly remember the headline and Marilyn Manson correlation and just believed MSM take on the case. "He was a wee weirdo, He must of done it". Now though being older and some what wiser I try to be much less judgemental.
Knowing what we all know, regarding miscarriages of justice all of the place. It certainly seems that a retrial is more than feasible. 16y layer he still protests his innocence, no dna is attached to him and severalpossible other suspects all over the shop. Shocking investigation by Scotland's finest. 🙈
That's called maturity Cheryl......this is what is needed with mankind as a body...instead of knee jerk/emotional reactions to what the mainstream media promote......people should be asking for cut and dried evidence.
It shows you the grip media has on the minds of the masses....they can get them to believe ...anything!!
WE ARE CHILDREN!!....what excites society as a whole is 22 guys chasing a bag of air about...on a pitch with 50,000 dupes watching on from the sidelines......we've not moved much further than chimps in the evolutionary scale.
Interesting . Deserves a retrial at the very least. Lots of mistakes by the police and courts.
I'm soo looking forward to part 4 ⚖️⚖️⚖️
This case has been stinking from day 1 this lad has been stitched up good and proper.
Doesn’t dub his door and he takes no prisoners...in hmp shorts!! If they thaught he was a beast he would b behind his wood on protection lol shotts is a LTP JAIL long term prisoners .. murderers etc defo widna b in shots if he was guilty would b in glenochill or Inverness beast sections
@@raymeer2797 💯 agree
@@raymeer2797 He is definitely on protection. Yes shotts is a long term prison.He got sentenced without limit of time,to serve minimum of 20 years.Hence why he's there.
As if the cops would stitch up a lad & let a vicious child killer run around. The cops have daughters too btw, & Grand-daughters & sisters & ..........
@@bethryan9077 they also have to catch someone for it quickly to show the public they are doing their job well...
All these sad old women championing murderers
I thought Luke was guilty because of what I had read in the paper but after watching this interview theres alot more to the story. Luke deserves a retrial.
More Smoke and Mirrors by Sandra Lean
“I apologise for any confusion - No Smoke was published more than 12 years ago, before I had access to all of the case papers and I haven't read it/referenced it for many years. The book was based largely on court transcripts, which were all I had at the time. I've contacted the publisher today to ask for the book to be withdrawn.
I would like to stress that it was not, and never has been, my intention to mislead....
@@heathertaggart1580 Shes been talking crap for years. She said Adrian Prout was innocent and his wife ran off. She backed him to the hilt. He later confessed that he strangled her and buried her on the farm. She caused a lot of agony to Mrs Prouts family.
Shes all over the place in this interview. Luke had previous for attacking two girls, He put a knife to one of tneir throats. He never just threw a bar of chocolate.
Lean is not even a criminologist as she claims.
@@govang5191 That is a book about absolutely Nothing Sandra. You need to stop with all your fake profiles on these sites, trying to get the public to buy your book.
@@ourwilliam2405 why have you changed your user name? Maybe just a troll?
@@bethryan9077 bit late beth I have read the book & 100% support sandra. Your another name that pops up in the comments section a bit much. Very much doubt the person your tagging is sandra
In my experience having done time for a crime I didn't commit the coppers knew he is innocent and decided to save the state money by blaming Luke.
Your right there mate had a few pals in the same jail as.him they all said they think hes innocent
That paul ward from Edinburgh
I think we'd be a bit naive to assume that's all its about
I remember the papers saying he smoking 100 hash joints day and I thought mmm no
@@marilynrobertson17 Yeah, Do you know him well? I just hate that people are so persuaded by the media! Did you watch ma two videos with Dr Sandra?
@@Sharon_Indy stop desperately touting for views and subscribers
@@marilynrobertson17 what stuff do u know about the guy Kane He should have been suspect from start
@@marilynrobertson17 a believe what your saying was just asking what u knew about him was odd he had scratches on face next day and apparently always carried a knife and on a cocktail of drugs a heard he was a pretty messed up guy
@@marilynrobertson17 what makes u think it was mk a heard he got charged with attempted murder in 2011
Wow totally changed my mind give Luke a retrial cheers James
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Hope he get's a retrial. Great podcast James 💜
My brother in law was in . polmont . when luke got the jail years ago. and he says all the time he didnt do it
Must be true then
Jessie Peter Tobin said he didn't do it
I've never believed that Luke is guilty of this murder. The fact that the dog led the people who were looking for her is natural, the dog knew jody so of course he'd sniff her body out. Add to that the fact that the police never wanted it to be anyone other than Luke then the truth is obvious to me. It's heartening, that boy loved Jody, and the suffering his mother has been through is disgusting. I pray that the truth will come out for this lad, who now is a grown man.
Yep my dogs especially my now deceased lurcher would always sniff out dead animals within seconds and if it were human - oh yes definitely will they pull to it as they have an incredible sense of smell and when things aren't good. They naturally go to that.
Trouble with small communities is they fuel each other especially with fears and paranoia. What I do not understand is he has nothing on him yet another kid who looks the same had scratches on his face and then if it is the same person he goes on to commit 2 more crimes involving threats and a knife/taser. Now he is deceased it is easy to keep on blaming Luke. Instead of police realising they messed up were out of touch with teens and jumped to conclusions. Nirvana quote about best day was when 2moro never came is about the pain of losing someone. You can tell they were a great couple of normal goths. Alot of us who were into goth lifestyles were not future killers but some of my friends did blood pacts with knives to say our commitment to each other and the knives would be engraved or written on. Obviously as you get older you realise how weird society sees that but as teens you think it is edgy and cool. I believe the guy who did it was jealous of Luke and Jodi and was unhappy she was with Luke and perhaps tried to frame him. Plus the Dahlia murder was no way similar to this.
How very odd that Scooby Doo Dog didn't 'sniff the body out 'when Luke went past The First Time. lol. Cops don't let highly sadistic child killers run around free. Oh sure he loved Jodi Plus the other girl he was seeing At The Same Time. That mother who tried hard to cover up his murder of that child you mean. The truth Did come out & that's why he is where he will Stay
@@bethryan9077 How strange also that Mr Dickies 8 spaniel dogs did not alert as he passed the very spot where Jodi was , strange isn't it . Very strange that Jodi had lots of different colourless hairs not verified as human or animal left on her body . Cops make mistakes , check out Kiszko /caztree or stagg/ napper. Maybe ask their victims if the police allow child killers to run around free. matter of time
@@michaelmessenger7476 So not interested in any Mr Dickie & you are a proven liar, however, obviously only the murderer's wonder dog could identify exactly where to go to find the body. Yawn
Nobody cares about hairs on the body deary, your child killer Premeditated all he did soo ...........................
I couldn't care less about anything You direct me to. It doesn't matter how much Crap you spout, your highly sadistic child killer, will likely Never get out.
I remember so vividly hearing about this case because I was same age as Jodi and Luke. I first heard the story on the radio in my dad's car and he immediately said "the bf did it. It's always the bf or husband" and thinking wtf?! I even remember the arrest and my dad being all "told you so" smugly. I wasn't sure then, but now I'm confident Luke is innocent. This screams like the Memphis three and I hope we see the real killer caught soon
Your dad was correct & you two can read what I have posted on this page. Look under 'view 33 replies', is my long reply to Roro. Not my theory, Crown facts & you will understand What that monster was & did to that poor girl. There are documents online, reply if I can help with a question. This is Nothing like the Memphis 3 & Luke premeditated all he did
@@bethryan9077 I have a question. How much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
@@ronm9101 my dad was a judgemental and prejudiced donkey, he wasn't referring to a specific male, just that whoever was the boyfriend did it. Don't pay any mind to what he said because like I said, he's a donkey
@TruthSeekers You're big Con Job is over sandra, yet here you are at me for some very strange reason & you're just more & more Pathetic, as per.
Luke Mitchell---A misscarriage of justice?
Posted on 7 September 2022 Premiers at 4.15pm Wednesday.
Read Scott Forbes book A Long Walk to Justice. It is an account of the circumstances, arrest and conviction of Luke Mitchell for the murder of his girlfriend Jodie Jones. Both Luke and Jodie were 14 years old at the time of her brutal homicide in June 2003.
Scott Forbes has been Luke’s lawyer since 2010. He has though been close to the case since 2003. In his book Scott highlights many aspects of the case that cast doubt on the veracity of Luke’s conviction. Indeed, some of the glaring mistakes by Lothian and Border Police make one wonder why Luke was even a suspect in the first place.
The circumstances surrounding Jodie’s brutal murder are so bizarre I doubt even a crime writing novelist would attempt to push such things to their readers. The catalogue of errors, missteps, omissions, assumptions by the police are really quite unbelievable.
The most important aspect to any murder scene is to secure the crime scene. One of the most important aspects of securing the crime scene is to preserve the scene with minimal contamination and disturbance of physical evidence. First Responders to an incident should document the placement and/or movement of items at the scene. None of this basic stuff was done properly by the police on the scene that night. The body was dragged along the ground. Branches from trees were cut away to allow the police photographer better views for his pictures! These are only two of the many mistakes made at the scene.
This was at the outset of the investigation and sadly, from there it went downhill. Witnesses that should have been questioned were not. People who had been at the scene were allowed to go home in the clothes they were wearing with no forensics taken from them. Subsequently and in some cases rapidly these garments were washed thereby destroying valuable forensic evidence.
Several individuals that had been spotted in and around the crime scene were not question at the time. Indeed, some were not even questioned till years after Luke Mitchell had been convicted and sentenced to 20 years to life in prison.
Alibis were created, statements were altered, crucial evidence discounted. The list of fatal mistakes and pure incompetence are too many to list. Information was leaked to the press, and they did a job on a 14-year-old boy and his family. Lies and false information were fed to the public via the Scottish gutter press.We all know how our media love to dig and dish the dirt.
This is a taste of the kind of headlines the Daily Record had been producing from the day of crime. It transpired the Record hack was a close friend of the leading investigator, DI Dobbie and we can only assume the source of her information.
Despite numerous other possible suspects the police determined from the night Jodie’s body was discovered that Luke was ‘their man.’ Indeed, DS Dobbie in charge of the investigation told his underlings to take Luke in and give him the ‘ full treatment.’ A 14-year-old child that had never been in trouble with the police in his life. He was exposed to this ‘full treatment’ by the police without a responsible adult beside him every step of the way. Luke was a Goth and the police thought he looked weird. That it seems was enough for the investigators to ignore any other suspects.
One crucial thing to note, not a shred of DNA or any other forensic evidence was found on Luke, his clothes or on Jodie! He was convicted on circumstantial evidence, police testimony and Daily Record bile!
Scott writes in far greater detail the circumstances around poor Jodie’s discovery, Luke’s arrest and subsequent conviction. I would advise you all to get a copy of his book and make up your own mind. This could just be the biggest ever miscarriage of justice in Scottish legal history.
I was able to speak with Scott this week and below is that interview. I would appreciate if you would listen to what Scott has to say. Then you will be free to make up your own mind.
Most importantly in all of this is Jodie Jones herself a 14-year-old child. Brutally murdered with over 300 wounds, her body mutilated in a most cruel manner and left dumped in a wood. Is another child capable of such a crime? Several criminologists, retired murder detectives and even the FBI don’t think so! Has justice served Jodie well or has justice only served its own needs, you decide?
Favorite channel. It is good to see James going out on a limb like this when he knows Dr Sandra Lean is involved with The Scottish Biker Gang and Corrine Mitchell talks to a man who runs a car crusher.
Great interview mate 💚👍
Steven Wark thanks Steven
Dalkeith seems like the town i grew up in. All the industry has gone apart from the rumour mill which runs 24/7.
There's basically no evidence against him. I remember at the time they made a big deal about him liking Marilyn Manson (he didn't, he had one free cd off a magazine, and even if he did so what?), violent video games and smoking joints. So, like every other teenager at the time then? The whole case is a complete joke.
@@user-qt3fc9oe4p awww come on they would have. Released this long ago if Luke’s dna was anywhere near Jodie it would only strengthen the case don’t believe this u are the ONLY person who I have ever seen say about Luke’s dna on Jodie its been said many many many times there was no dna evidence
Shocking and corrupt police work in this case, and how it ever went to trial is beyond me.
@@aldo30 how can you be so sure about that. Do you have evidence cause I've not seen any out there.
@@ntwaddle78 even less after that documentary aired tonight!!
Louise, I'm with you at the moment. The police should have interviewed more people but seem to have taken an instant dislike to Mr Mitchell. Then there's the DNA found on Jodi's shirt which belongs to someone else. I can't believe the police still get away with this type of policing. What I don't understand is how the jury are finding Mr Mitchell guilty. What is the evidence ?
@@aldo30 based on what?
@@aldo30 Funny how everything covered here was covered by experts in a documentary in 2007, no doubt the pathologist, eyewitness experts, experts about what statements should be used in court etc are all liars also?
Pants off, hands tied etc. He was a skinny 14yr old boy and apparently she put up a good fight. How can they do this to a young man?! Take his life away just to quickly solve and close the case?! This is the biggest miscarriage of justice I’ve heard. It makes me feel so angry. I only hope he gets his retrial and finally clears his name. His poor mother! God bless them!
Blinded to the facts of the case....doesn't mean that he wasn't there,but others might have been? Who phones the Speaking Clock from a MOBILE phone in 2003,the time is on the screen,exact to the second,right at the time of the murder?
When they scraped her fingernails they found no traces of DNA from anybody. She didnt put too much of a struggle.
May she rest in peace.
Totally agree
@@ourwilliam2405 apparently she put up a struggle to the end that came from the pathologist who examined jodi x
@@karennavara8701 I havent seen where he said that. I only read that he said there was a struggle at the scene.
Great podcast James, very interesting, 👍
Jean Copeland thanks jean
Respect to you for handling this matter with such respect 👌
So many details I knew nothing about.
No dna.
No other suspects, from the start.
So many things to mention.
Trial by media 💯
Great interview James 👍
I dont think LM done it. Too many other factors that wernt looked at or taken into account. This guy has sat in jail for the last 16 years for fk all. RETRIAL
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I remember this when it was in the news and listening to this its like the police are covering for someone and making sure luke gets the blame but I could be wrong and I don't think we will ever know
If I have my way, we'll know the truth about this case eventually and I don't intend giving up anytime soon!!!!
Sandra I hope you do get to the bottom of this and maybe you will as you come across very intelligent and excellent at what you do, you have the heart of a lion as this could be a cover up for someone of importance, if luke is innocent someone out there wont want you getting the answers but after watching this something is definitely not right about this things just dsnt add up .
@@scott6926 Thanks, Stay tuned - there's so much more to come!
@@drsandralean8036 It's now 2021, Nothing happened. lol
31st March 2019 this came out , 4 years ago
Sandra saying : with what we know now, the people that have come forward, the new evidence that we have, etc etc etc
And nothing has changed, absolutely nothing ,
The same story, I can’t say, I need to watch what I’m saying blah blah
Nothing is happening and nothings going to happen
@groundkontrol yes, after she got back the failed appeal that she prepared.
Now after last nights fire on Mitchell’s old caravan property
It’s being spun as a conspiracy by Sandra, She loves to stir up drama,
Folk are actually saying it’s intentional because the truth is out
Some supporters think Corrine stil has a business there
But Sandra doesn’t tell them the land was sold to property developers many years ago
Big news coming this week according to forbes.more accusations and lies im sure.these two really are laughable.
@@ourwilliam2405 the article by her "journalist" friend basically accuses the wee lass family of intimidation tactics. Ironic given they accuse jane Hamilton of spreading hate so would think they wouldn't use the same tactics themselves. I dont read DR and didnt read a single article Hamilton wrote. I read this ridiculous take on who's behind the fire though and where its probably been wee clowns with no knowledge of the case it's being spun as a dramatic "folk are running scared" story. I had respect for Sandra Lean even though I disagreed with her. I thought she came across as someone who believed LM may be innocent but didnt get involved in baseless allegations against the Jones family. Thats changed when she deliberately posted the Joseoh killed jodi graffiti. Any newspaper blacked out the name. Sandra lean posted it in full but told her followers it "wasn't fair to do to others what was done to Luke". So why stir up folk by putting JJ name out there. Shes posted barbed comments about Judith drinking. Yet defends CM buying her son a jacket identical to the 1 he apparently didnt own and LM engraving a knife pouch with 666 and jodis date of death. According to Sandra it wasnt all that strange. Funnily enough I used to think LM could be innocent years ago when most thought he was guilty.
I'm no scooby doo but I reckon sisters fella may have done it... something fishy about his dna at the scene and saying check the path again 🤷♂️ just my 2 cent. Well done James really enjoy watching your podcasts 👍
Who was Moped Guy 2,one was named,was it his semen in the condom? Could up to 4 people,including Mitchell been involved?
@@williamrae9954 Moped guys - Gordon Dickie and John Ferris. Condom man - James Falconer.
Moped guys were john ferris and gordon Dickie... the condom mans name was james falconer
@@summersunshine1007 was one of them related to jodie?
@@kcjai9016 Yes John Ferris was her cousin. Pretty sure the other one was her second cousin.
James this was a brilliant interview. Hairs standing on my arms and bloody anger running through my body. Courrupt bastards
Soo many people are just plain old Gullible. I sure hope you're Never on a jury.
Midlothian Police at their best, too busy trying to catch someone doing 5mph over the speed limit and no experience in real crime
THIS YOUNG MAN IS INNOCENT .
Hes not young anymore. Let that resonate for a second...
Its messed up
Why ain't her family saying anything ,if it was my wane and I watched that with no a shred of evidence against that boy , Dam right I'd want more answers , wouldn't anyone , just in case witch seems to be he didn't do it but incase he didn't I'd want to know who killed the wee girl , what is her family thinking
I thought the same. Why are they so quiet?
Very dodgy indeed. Family names in the pot.
@Can't bearsed Anymore Haha aye so they do lol the wrong guy
@Can't bearsed Anymore yeah definitely mate , strange one.
Umm, They were At The Trial. Doh. Unlike all you dafties who are Obsessed with lying Leany & her offsider, Crafty Corrine, Jodi's family, the high court Judge & jury, Actually saw the 20 Chapters of Evidence against that highly sadistic child killer.
It's frightening the amount of people that have been fitted up with the CID. They're ruthless bastards playing with people's lives.
16 years ..... for a potential innocent kid 🤷♂️😢
Sandra says there weren’t any laws about keeping Luke’s picture out of the media. But the United Nation Convention on the Rights of the Child would have been ratified in the uk. I’m sure it was adopted in the UK in 1992. This is a set of articles that keep children up to 18 years old protected, involved and provided for. One of the articles says the governments must protect children
from all other forms of exploitation. This leads me to question why the media were allowed to publish pictures of Luke.
Sandra talls utter nonsense. Shes all over the place in this interview. Shes not a criminologist for starters.
@@govang5191 what are the facts? You tell me.
@@ourwilliam2405 what are your facts that proves he is guilty? i would like to hear your evidence that will convince me that a child is not the victim of miscarriage of justice
@@DavidGault-go1qz Firstly. you’re going in the wrong direction if you think: 1/ Luke was a child 2/ Teenagers aren’t able to murder other people,
Once you understand that then you might find the truth
I'm sorry to the Luke Mitchell family we all thought he was guilty but after all this we now no he's innocent the man as spent the best part of his life in prison I'm sorry for not looking at the evidence we need to help you get out of prison.
Oh, so You believe this so-called mother who tried very hard To Cover Up her son's murder of a Child & for some reason you suddenly know about evidence. LMAO.
I remember following the trial at the time and being surprised back then that Luke was convicted because in my mind the evidence wasn’t there to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. I was also surprised that there wasn’t any huge backlash to the conviction back then either, it was a big case but didn’t feel that big.
ADMIN delete anything with beth ryan she is a troll and a liar.
Here is a summary of evidence against Mitchell
1. Knife that he was known to own, went missing and no reason offered by mitchell.
2, Green Parker Jacket...yes you guessed it went missing too, again no explanation offered.
3.His brother admitted he had lied when he said Luke was at home at the time of the murder. His brother is absent from the campaign to free him.
4. Independent Witness who gave description of 2 people resembling mitchell and his victim. at 4:50 in the area
5. 2 More Independent Witnesses saw young man matching Mitchell's description around 5:50 at gate between his house and the path to the crime scene.
6. Phone records show call made from his phone to the talking clock when according to his alibi he was at home.
7. His description of the dead girl and her clothing to police mentioned items of clothing including a hair clasp and bobble only visible when her body was moved.
8. The other suspects essay describing killing a young woman in the woods did not exist according to his lecturer.
You see I don't even need to mention his liking for Marylin Manson and Manson;s obsession with the Black Dahlia murder. Nor do I need to claim there were similarities to the nature of these crimes.
Hope that helps
So no evidence.
@@iamneo1690You response is comedy gold
@@ericcolumba Funny that as I think your 'evidence' is hilariously dumb.
Funny how the whole problem with this case from day one is that it was a trial by media and you might as well have copy and pasted your "evidence" from a daily record article 😂
@@calumlindsay3612 exactly 👍
Thanx for this James. Very insightful & impartial interview. I shall be tuning in to part 2.
B4 I do, may I add the point u made about not naming those under the age of 16. It made me remember the two boys who murdered Jamie Bulger (Jon Venables & Thompson?) Their pics were shared as minors under 16. That was however, back in 1993. I know they changed their names on release.
The other point I wanted to make (it may be raised in part 2, which I haven’t yet watched), is to look at cases where they have overturned their convictions & walked free bc they were innocent.
It may help in terms of what procedures & measures were implemented & also who it was that helped them to reach justice & freedom.
Just some thoughts....
You ae being lead down a road to nowhere calise. No-one that matters has ever given SL any mind in near 20 years & they never will. He has had 4 appeals & the MOJ turned this case down. Done, finished a long time ago. Certain people see dollar signs since her book came out & the milking continues while there is paper to print more.
@@bethryan9077 Just read your reply Beth. ThAnkhs for the info.
Just to clarify. R u saying that he is in fact guilty of the crime? And that the story is being milked to make money, ie. the Book?
Just so I’m clear & not misreading your message.
@@MrMadieu Yes he is guilty. All that he committed was premeditated & So depraved in totality, is likely he will never get out.
Yes, this so-called campaign is all about her book sales, what better marketing ploy could an author devise.
She Knows he did it & that Corrine tried hard to cover it up. What stands out so much is all that she & Corrine are hiding from the public about this case. If you have a look at her weekly update May 23rd, you will see what I got out of her there, the fact that she has always known, that Jodi was unconscious. He did that with a severe blow on her head using a blunt weapon. Just one fact that sandra has Never told, & she tries to 'thwart' this fact that another weapon was used, in her replies to me, telling more lies.
Thanks for your interest. Would you mind letting me know on here if you can't get on that update page as I am suspicious she has blocked people recently from getting on there.
I will give you an example of those 2 women, who 'slip-up' with their Stories about the jacket that disappeared.
Corrine is on one site from some years ago & said - Luke Never had a jacket before, Never wore jackets before, Hated jackets. She said - the police came to the house & took all his clothes away so she had to buy him new clothes. She went to a store & Luke chose - a jacket. Huh? She goes on - she was very happy because it was on sale, she gave the receipt to the liaison officer.
Sandra is on her site Innocents Betrayed. She tells a story about The jacket & said that Luke had The jacket on when taken to the police station the night he found her & the police took The jacket, so, it never disappeared at all, the police had it. Huh?
Hang on, ladies, Corrine said he never had one before, he hated them, never wore one before. Corrine, also on another site later & saying she bought a Replica Parker & bangs on same, but it was a Parker she bought later. The locals started talking, & then facts about the trial came out, & more now, so they have to keep changing what was before, about what is Known.
Fact - He was seen wearing The jacket in the months prior & on that afternoon & evening & then it disappeared. Many testified about that jacket. Even one of his school teachers. People think it was burnt because it was covered in blood but no, he was too cunning to let that happen, it was burnt because he was Seen in it that afternoon & evening. Of course, Corrine would have been worried that there may have been traces of blood or her hair or anything else from the scene on it. He was behind her when the deep cut happened & that is evidenced by the blood on the wall. A few cuts were before death but most were after. Mrs Bryson noticed that the jacket pocket a bulge when she saw them at the east end of the pathway. It must have been stuffed full, for her to notice that.
Corrine went out & bought him the Same jacket & was Caught-out doing that. She later bought him the Same knife & was Caught-out doing that as well. This was just one knife he had before that disappeared after the murder. It was a 4" skunting knife with a pouch & he carried it daily & he would cut his hash with that. The medical examiner describes the knife used as stout.
His balaclava disappeared also
that wee guy defo deserves a retrial
Alan Turnbull: Where were you originally intending to go?
Dc Alan Towers: Originally, Newbattle police station which is only a few hundred yards from the school
Alan Turnbull: I see. And did you set off in the car with that in mind
Alan Turnbull: No, eventually, we, that was in mind, but Luke explained his mother had a problem with transportation to Newbattle
Anyone? It could happen to anyone?
Suppose it could but...
Knife gone missing...
Spotted a body immediately, even though it was in dense overgrowth behind trees...
Hadn't been able to account for his whereabouts at the time...
Alibi destroyed
Not by just anyone
, too.
Everyone else. I suppose we should point the finger at everyone else.
The missing knife apparently was not the one used in the murder. The body was first detected by the dog. Jodies gran sister and sisters boyfriend all said the same for the first few months then decided to change their story saying they didn't know if he pulled the dog toward the wall or the dog made a be line for the wall making it obvious something was behind the wall. And as for the alibi being destroyed if they thought his mother was lying for him why did all the charges against his mother get dropped for giving him a false alibi. So where else is the evidence. Notice you don't mention the fact that there was 5 different dna profiles on or around Jodies body none of which were Lukes. Why did none of that dna get tested and those people looked into ?
Utter BS. Ferris had Luke's knife. Her body wasn't spotted immediately. He did account for his whereabouts. Alibi wasnt destroyed. No fingers should be pointed at anyone. That's down to Police negligence and human ignorance. However if any finger pointing where to happen I would say it should be towards the concrete proof that was available and that was with Ferris and Dickie being there and also the DNA that was found on Jodi. Helps to start in the right place and keep your verbal ramblings factual.
@@ntwaddle78 He had many knives & all went missing. He carried a 4" skunting knife & pouch daily & used to cut his hash with that. The ME described the sharp instrument used as stout. The jacket he was seen wearing in the months before And that day & evening also went missing. A neighbour saw his mother burning clothes that evening & her & other neighbours smelt the burning coming from the backyard. The dog obviously forgot to detect the body on his way past the First time. lol. The only person who says anyone changed their story is the con artist, sandra Lean. It costs a great deal of money to prosecute someone like that mother who would have thwarted the process with lies & so, cost the taxpayers much more. She could no longer lie for that sadistic monster so job done. His brother testified that Luke wasn't home & he sure wasn't cooking dinner & he also testified that Corrine had coerced him into giving Luke a false alibi before, as She did. His knives & jacket disappeared after the murder & he had plenty of chances to explain that, he failed. The neighbours smelt the burning 2 times that night. It was proven that his torch didn't have the reach to have seen the body. He described her torn & cut clothes yet supposedly hadn't seen her that afternoon. He was seen with Jodi at one end of the path & he was seen on his own at the other end 50 minutes later. Just a few points, there were 20 Chapters of evidence against him.
@@govang5191 The cops Didn't have the jacket he was seen wearing that day. There were Not 12-20 blows on her neck. They were superficial cuts & it is likely that he did that to try & cover up that he started to strangle her. The one big cut was from behind.
@@iseebs2354 Luke had Many knives & they all disappeared. He used to carry the 4" skunting knife & pouch Daily & would cut his hash with that one. Ferris had One that was Lukes & handed it to the cops. Luke Lied about where he was & his brother testified that he Was Not Home & he sure Wasn't cooking dinner. He also testified that Corrine had coerced him into giving Luke a False alibi before, as She did. Corrine was seen on CCTV & wasn't home with him when she said either. In total Luke couldn't account for 3 hours where he was from when he left school & went a different way when he left there. The cops did an excellent job & it's Very likely that the highly sadistic monster will Never get out. Ferris & Dickie were Not there & they were Seen far away for the time of the murder. The only DNA was an old spot of blood that hadn't washed out properly on her sister's Tshirt that Jodi had borrowed.
YOU need to stop spreading the BS so stfu
Like yourself, I was only young when this happened but as a long term fan of metal music I vividly remember the emphasis the media put on this aspect of the story. It's a very touchy subject so I admire you and Sandra for having the courage to stick your necks out. None of us is in a position to say whether Luke is innocent with 100% certainty but there's certainly some very reasonable questions that need to be answered.
Daily Express, Sun, May, 2012:
But one of Mitchell's former girlfriends, who says he attacked her with a knife just weeks before Jodi's murder, yesterday dismissed his latest claims of innocence.
Kara Van Nuil is adamant that her ex-boyfriend did kill Jodi, and also revealed she is terrified that Mitchell will attempt to track her down on his release.
The 24-year-old, who believes that her decision to end the relationship probably saved her life, has now moved away from Midlothian in an attempt to avoid being found.
Ms Van Nuil, who was 16 when she dated Mitchell, maintains that he pressed a blade to her neck during an Army Cadet Force platoon meeting.
With the other cadets enjoying a snack break outside the hut, Mitchell is said to have grabbed Ms Van Nuil from behind, turned her round and forced a penknife to her throat.
"There's not one part of me that thinks he isn't guilty," she said. "Because of the way he was with me that day, I don't have a doubt in my mind at all. It definitely was him.
"He is so strong and he can easily hold someone down like me. I'm tiny and I'm sure Jodi was the same. I had no power to fight back.
"He is a very disturbed boy," she continued. "He looked up to Marilyn Manson, who is strange
That was a good watch James very interesting. The public dont realise the things that the police and prosecution get away with in court.
From changing statements to suit their case or making things up completely, I've seen it all.
Gallant Pioneer 👍🏼
Every professional be it prison officer, psychologist, etc. that have worked with him know he is innocent.
How would any of them know?
Another steller job mate keep it up.Do you have or thought about having a channel on discord where folk can discuss your stuff as theres some great topics your covering?
Retro Hawk what’s discord?
@@JamesEnglish I only recently 6 months ago found out about discord. Lots of people use to to upload info about cases of other true crime where innocent people are incarcerated. There is a chat in there where you can all chat and discuss cases. Anyone can make their own channel. I THINK if it’s a big channel for a case or any topic, I think there is an annual fee ?..... Not 100% certain on that.
Lots of people into gaming also have channels on here apparently.
I only listen to true crime.
Loved your interview 💙💙💙
I am not from Scotland but was watching a Utube video chat about this case and your channel came up in my feed.
This is the first time hearing this she's a brave lady and if luke is innocent what a shame poor wee guy
You're believing a con artist who wrote 2 books for financial gain. The first one had to be withdrawn because of all the lies & misinformation. That alone should tell people Everything really.
Amazing podcast mate. Would be interesting to see the other side of the story. Horrible to think if Luke is innocent the killer is still out there. Especially for Jodies family. So if we could hear what evidence they actually had for a conviction it would be interesting to hear. Prob won’t get anyone willing to do a podcast for it right enough.
I have posted some of the important facts on this page, look under 'view 33 replies', I have a long reply to Roro. Sandra is Hiding the facts & tells bs about everything. She wrote a book for profit so will deny even when asked. Have a look at her weekly update May 23rd, will give you a good idea of what she is doing when you go through the thread. And then the BBC doc - Mia found her, read the replies there too, where she is spreading Really bad shite about Jodi's sister. At least on here it isn't Full of her fake profiles. There are a few of her fakes on here but aren't saying much because this page is not run by her.
Since posting above, I put a call-out to peers to contact the media & relevant authorities in relation to what sandra & her fake profiles were saying about Jodi's sister & even more vile accusations at Jodi's family. Her BBC doc site comments were shut off recently & at her weekly update May 23rd, she has deleted many of her fake profiles & the comments, same at other sites. She had to put her last weekly updates for June on her Facebook page. Now she is Gone, Finished, Kaput. Good riddance to a Proven liar & a despicable con woman.
@@bethryan9077 BBC DOC posted under MIA FOUND HER , the comments where switched off for good reason , which you will find out in time why. But dont worry the BBC Doc Frontline Scotland is still up with comments sooo hmmm I smells bullshiit 😆😆 Sandra is not going anywhere Bethy, btw do you think Sandra Lean owns the BBC now 😆😆
@@michaelmessenger7476 Yeah yeah lol, more of 'can't say now'. LMAO. You Know I referred to the one & Only site 'Mia found her' that was that Frontline Bogus doc. All that shite on that doc came from sandra's mouth because she was writing a bs book which she had on the shelves until it was withdrawn because of all the lies & the 'mistakes'. So she started another book about nothing & that is the Only reason all this crap has been going on, her form of marketing for that book about Nothing. Sandra Is Gone, Finished, Over, Kaput. All can hear her Goodbye on her Facebook page in June. Good riddance to very bad rubbish, you fake personas of Her, should do the same. Who the hell said that con woman owns the BBC? lol.