5 Myths about Israel and the War in Gaza (Episode

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  • @marjan5666
    @marjan5666 Před 4 měsíci +1631

    I agree with you about Islam and thank you for your podcasts which I enjoy. As an Iranian, I can say most people in Iran are very different from the picture many people have in mind about them. I agree that 40 years ago they were more brain-washed, but nowadays, the number of jihadists and extremists is very few among Iranians, most of them are peaceful and they resent Hamas and their barbaric acts. Just wanted to mention that the Iranian government is different from the people. It has been many years that Iranian people have been fighting against the government that has taken them hostage for these years. Most of us actually feel deep sympathy towards Israelians who now have hostages in Hamas's hands and stand with them.

    • @Eged282
      @Eged282 Před 4 měsíci

      Most Muslims are not the problem and peaceful! But if 25% that are not, are a BIG problem. They do need to be addressed ASAP

    • @shottheband
      @shottheband Před 4 měsíci

      Judaism is where Islam gets its violence from. The torah and talmud also command the believers to murder and rape, and as we see both abrahamic zealots currently follow those orders- except harris only has concern for one of these groups of zealots

    • @idanpeleg211294
      @idanpeleg211294 Před 4 měsíci +55

      Do you think it's unpreventable that our countries will clash ? 😢. I have many Iranian friends from previous student exchanges, and am aware of the sentiment of the people vs the government. I love them very much. Some of them even tole me straight up Iran must eventually be dealt with. I can't imagine how painful it must to speak of your own country in such terms. Is there no hope of a peaceful change of regime in your opinion?

    • @ahmadjamalmughal47
      @ahmadjamalmughal47 Před 4 měsíci

      I wish I could say the same about Pakistan too. It has been state propaganda since 1980 in Pakistan it is default position of everyone. Our government and people are pretty much on same page. Just condemning H*m*s once and then focusing all attention on Is*ael alone is not enough. Why don't they call back Pakistanis who work in Qatar or any country that funds H*m*s? Why don't they boycott all Arab countries that support them? Why only boycotting Is*ael? Why was there criminal silence for first 3 to 4 days when attack began even though videos were circulating all over the internet? And millions of them only took to the street as soon as Israel began its action?
      Edit: I just wanna say Sam Harris is one of the few intellectuals who sees how much religion has to do with all of it. I have ordered his book End of Faith which is supposed to arrive this week.

    • @user-fx5tm1ll4k
      @user-fx5tm1ll4k Před 4 měsíci +82

      “…he does not mention Israeli settlements on the West..” How can Israel be a “colonizer” of its own land?
      Under international law the principle of _Uti Possidetis Juris_ all of the land within Mandatory Palestine which was agreed to by the League of Nations in 1922 belongs to Israel.
      Don’t understand that legal concept? There’s another way to view ownership.
      When the 1948 war concluded with an armistice the Jordanian army controlled the West Bank, and two days later Jordan annexed the land. In 1967 Jordan attacked Israel, lost, and Israel took control of the land. While it is a violation of international law to acquire land as the aggressor in a war, it is not illegal to do so as a victim of aggression.

  • @gilad1908
    @gilad1908 Před 4 měsíci +1049

    Could someone pls do a 45 sec version of this for Tiktok preferably with a dancing half dressed influencer so it reaches the smart kids in Harvard?

    • @sindibadage
      @sindibadage Před 4 měsíci +32

      That's a great business idea! 😅

    • @mountainair
      @mountainair Před 4 měsíci +40

      Great comment

    • @Fran-ik6ob
      @Fran-ik6ob Před 4 měsíci +15

      🤣

    • @axaeyexus
      @axaeyexus Před 4 měsíci +16

      👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @emilianosintarias7337
      @emilianosintarias7337 Před 4 měsíci +11

      sadly, even woke harvard people are more level headed about this topic than sam harris is

  • @danielori5891
    @danielori5891 Před 4 měsíci +82

    This is the most concise, well spoken and accurate description of the conflict, leaving very little to be debated. I literally agree with every word.

    • @knowirds209
      @knowirds209 Před 3 měsíci

      Very tidy indeed, easy because Sam fails to mention anything about the origins of Isreal, please watch 1948: Creation and Catastrophe, free on CZcams. And this is the way we all have been brainwashed into thinking Isreal is just defending itself. They have been the aggressor from the start and it was a bad deal that is finally falling apart completely. Learn the actual history, not the propaganda, and certainly not Sam's smart but myopic anti-jihadist line. As Sam himself here says, there are many contributing factors that make up a conflict, but he is not even allowing the basis for this conflict which begins with a Zionist campaign that was exactly terrorism from the get go, look up the 1946 bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in which 91 people were killed, it was organized by Menachem Begin as Israel’s prime minister. Begin was only the first of the continuous right wing Zionists who are frank exponents of Jewish supremacism and who continue to rule Israel right this minute. I have used Sam's waking up ap for 3 years now, and I will not be renewing it again. I love all the guests he has on, but I can find them elsewhere. I find his guided meditations to be as strident as his thinking on this very critical moment of crisis. He has a lot to offer in criticizing Jihadism and nothing to offer in criticizing this other "lunatic ideology" which the US government backs.

  • @MichelleonSunset
    @MichelleonSunset Před 4 měsíci +128

    How do you reason with a group that sees paradise down the barrel of a gun? You don’t. You can’t.

    • @Sarcastic.Activist
      @Sarcastic.Activist Před 2 měsíci +9

      Right? Israel does not relent in it's violence.

    • @byrons1339
      @byrons1339 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I want to watch a debate between a Rabbi and Imam that would allow for mockery of the other's theology

    • @tamaramousley8597
      @tamaramousley8597 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Sarcastic.Activist Cute! But false and if you don’t understand that then that’s on you. Dare you to actually read history.

    • @hamidhamidi3134
      @hamidhamidi3134 Před měsícem +1

      How do you reason with a groups that it's leadership resides in Qatar which is the main US ally in the region ? 😅

    • @Giantcrabz
      @Giantcrabz Před měsícem

      You mean like Zionist settlers?

  • @dougmorrow746
    @dougmorrow746 Před 4 měsíci +306

    Only one thing I would disagree with you on. The real "leaders" of Hamas or Hezbollah do not live in Gaza or Syria, nor are they willing to sacrifice themselves for the cause of jihad. They live in Qatar or London, or Iran, a dozen places far, far from the fighting, where they can "call the shots" but suffer none of the consequences. They call for martyrdom of their followers, while living lives of luxury in their adopted homes. If those counties that hide these monsters were to seize their wealth and send them to Gaza to be part of the mass slaughter of its citizens, I wonder how long these calls for martyrdom would last.

    • @NothingButGoodStuff
      @NothingButGoodStuff Před 4 měsíci +25

      Let them fund UNRWA. The Egyptian Yasser Arafat amassed $1Billion from his grift, pretending to fight for liberation.

    • @explore-n
      @explore-n Před 4 měsíci +8

      it doesn't matter - they playing you. doesn't matter if the political leadership is there and the militant leadership is there. they all think the same and work toward the same evil goal

    • @dougmorrow746
      @dougmorrow746 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I'm sorry, but are you talking about Israel or the Palestinians?@@explore-n

    • @explore-n
      @explore-n Před 4 měsíci

      clearly the palastinians. their corruption is known around the world. on the same level of curruption in iran and russia@@dougmorrow746

    • @infidelheretic923
      @infidelheretic923 Před 4 měsíci +1

      It's not like the prophet Muhammad volunteered to martyr himself for his cause.
      He got suckers to do that for him.

  • @LiamL763
    @LiamL763 Před 4 měsíci +602

    Sam mentions the fact that a Jewish doctor saved the life of the leader of Hamas what he doesn't mention is that doctors nephew was murdered by Hamas on October 7th and whats left of his body taken into Gaza. RIP Tamir Adar ❤

    • @NothingButGoodStuff
      @NothingButGoodStuff Před 4 měsíci +12

      💔💔💔

    • @martha8241
      @martha8241 Před 4 měsíci +8

      💔💔💔😢

    • @FlashmanForever
      @FlashmanForever Před 4 měsíci +13

      Oh my goodness...

    • @emilianosintarias7337
      @emilianosintarias7337 Před 4 měsíci

      or that that he would've seen thousands of palestinian civlians, many having never gone through due process, tortured and mutilated in isreali prisons. Harris is out of his mind. This conflict goes back way before jihadism, and Israel is commiting actual genocide live on tv

    • @user-uq6bz1ri8j
      @user-uq6bz1ri8j Před 4 měsíci +26

      Shouldn't this be an example of the intentionality of extreme Islam? I'm struggling with understanding if a majority of the world - which includes non-Muslim supporters - is just plain bad or stupid. It's as if they cannot be reasoned with for the sake of a better world.

  • @jenniferteff
    @jenniferteff Před 4 měsíci +124

    I feel embarrassing grateful when I hear informed & intelligent people outside of Israel who give any support at all to sane analysis. THANK YOU.

    • @RobespierreThePoof
      @RobespierreThePoof Před 2 měsíci

      There's more of us than the propaganda war run by Iran and Qatar might make it seem

  • @josearmandovivero408
    @josearmandovivero408 Před 4 měsíci +19

    Thank you for being a voice of truth and reason.

  • @liberalegypt
    @liberalegypt Před 4 měsíci +675

    I am an Ex-Muslim from the Middle East and I agree with every word Sam Harris said. I want to ask your followers from all over the world: Do you really realize the danger of Islam? Or is there a state of ignorance that makes people not know what Islam is and consider it just one of the religions... and that extremism is just a few dozen fanatics... I live in the Middle East and I know that the 2 billion Muslims have a cancerous belief in dealing with the world. ..I do not know if the world is aware of the danger of this, whether politicians or people

    • @farhanmalik8100
      @farhanmalik8100 Před 4 měsíci

      We only realised when your mother's womb got full of dirt 😎

    • @user-uq6bz1ri8j
      @user-uq6bz1ri8j Před 4 měsíci

      I think so much of it is the West's evolution into religious tolerance which makes them believe they are being politically correct though they are truly being intimidated.

    • @NothingButGoodStuff
      @NothingButGoodStuff Před 4 měsíci +68

      @liberalegypt, I am an atheist, also from the Levant. You are absolutely correct, and I wish more people were aware of the agenda of world domination that Islam has always propagated. If one is a true believer of Islam, one has to embrace Jihad, and it's all downhill from there. I wish there were 2 billion non-religionists who understood that. There are a lot of westerners who are dealing with white guilt, who divide the world into oppressor and oppressed, just by color of skin or place of birth. There is so much ignorance, it is depressing. The extremists of Judaism mirror Hamas, but there are fewer of them - as yet. Let's hope their numbers remain small. Thank you for speaking truth.

    • @user-uq6bz1ri8j
      @user-uq6bz1ri8j Před 4 měsíci +22

      @@NothingButGoodStuff "There is so much ignorance, it is depressing."
      I bitch about this all the damn time!

    • @erowan1389
      @erowan1389 Před 4 měsíci +25

      It is the double-edged sword of preventing hate speech. It is valuable when trying to prevent the demonizing of people who do no harm to others, but it also prevents demonizing actual demons.

  • @MrBrammerca
    @MrBrammerca Před 4 měsíci +116

    This entire episode is gold. Thank you. As someone whose family was kidnapped by Hamas, you bring common sense to a complex problem.

    • @mznxbcv12345
      @mznxbcv12345 Před 3 měsíci +4

      " The first time the phrase “human animal” was recorded in history was by himmaliar, in The Posen speech to SS officers (6 October 1943) - On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians.
      Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1
      According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1
      When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1
      From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations.
      A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower.
      The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest.
      The reported ages of the victims are as follows:
      0-4: 2 civilians
      5-12: 8 civilians
      13-17: 14 civilians
      18-25: 132 civilians
      26-40: 119 civilians
      41-60: 55 civilians
      61+: 40 civilians
      Active duty military personnel:
      18-25: 258 active duty military personnel
      26-40: 60 active duty military personnel
      41-60: 17 active duty military personnel
      61+: 1 active duty military personnel
      haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr
      There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%"
      -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well'
      -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband'
      Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh
      UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023:
      2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440.
      2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255.
      2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492.
      2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300.
      2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138.
      2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30.
      2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349.
      2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191.
      2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227.
      civilian deaths on the other side -
      2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9
      2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26
      Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel.
      Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc
      The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Yinon Plan.

    • @jakelivni9576
      @jakelivni9576 Před 3 měsíci

      Holocaust denial doesn’t prove that the Holocaust didn’t happen, it only shows that you deny facts with your fake news. Denying the barbaric nature of the crimes of the Muslims of Gaza is the same.

    • @Lifeguard1970
      @Lifeguard1970 Před 3 měsíci +9

      🙏 for your family, I can’t imagine. I agree, 100%. People need to educate themselves because they won’t get it from the MSM.

    • @Lifeguard1970
      @Lifeguard1970 Před 3 měsíci

      @@mznxbcv12345you must be an accountant, you can do anything with statistics and get your information from any source. Propaganda!

    • @Lifeguard1970
      @Lifeguard1970 Před 3 měsíci

      @@mznxbcv12345 Hamas are classified as terrorists, how can anyone defend them?

  • @annapasternak718
    @annapasternak718 Před 4 měsíci +53

    Sam, you truly are the most coherent, concise, knowledgeable voice in the world. If only 2 billion Muslims could hear and absorb your message the future would look a lot brighter than it does today

    • @HaggardPillockHD
      @HaggardPillockHD Před 3 měsíci +4

      Categorising 2 billion people as a homogenous unit? Sounds a little discriminatory if I'm being honest

    • @Fomites
      @Fomites Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@HaggardPillockHD No, he is not doing that.

    • @HaggardPillockHD
      @HaggardPillockHD Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@Fomites who do you mean by "he"?

  • @lizhill3031
    @lizhill3031 Před 4 měsíci +22

    Holy cow a voice of reason! There are so many points of truth you have made very clear. I cannot even count the number and importance. You have hit the nail on the head of reason and investigation of these facts. You have reasoned out so successfully these points to perfection. I'm going to listen again. Thank you for your voice. You truly have much to say to a society which is bent upon the destruction of itself. I think about what Golda Meir said in 1957, "Peace will come when Arabs love their children more than they hate us." You need a bigger platform sir! If you are not on Telegram think about it. Sincerely refreshing!

  • @tonydorsett33
    @tonydorsett33 Před 4 měsíci +181

    Sam Harris says the difficult topics out loud without apology. This is the ONLY way we can have an honest, productive conversation.

    • @DanielJVoth
      @DanielJVoth Před 4 měsíci +8

      Totally agree!

    • @sketsakafit3733
      @sketsakafit3733 Před 4 měsíci +5

      so many things he said are untrue, sadly.
      "People only hear what they want to hear"

    • @mrrecluse7002
      @mrrecluse7002 Před 4 měsíci +18

      @@sketsakafit3733 If that is true, then it should be easy for you to give some examples.

    • @erniehudson1
      @erniehudson1 Před 4 měsíci

      yes, not matter if it Jihadism, Wokeism, Trumpism, Vaccination Skeptics... Sam is there to address boldly!

    • @sketsakafit3733
      @sketsakafit3733 Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@mrrecluse7002 ok, one example: He said that israel dont commit genocide because Gaza's population is not decreasing but rather increasing, from 250.000 (1948) to 2.5 million something (today). But do you know why there is a surge in Gaza's population? It's turns out isn't caused by increase in Palestinian's birthrate, but its because they are refugees. Gaza residents are displaced people from other regions of Palestine such as Jerusalem, West Bank, or other villages that got ransacked and taken over by either israeli armed settlers or expelled by the IDF. So it's clearly genocide and ethnic cleansing.

  • @ozzirlin9295
    @ozzirlin9295 Před 4 měsíci +240

    All people of the free world should hear this episode

    • @jacksonrauch9429
      @jacksonrauch9429 Před 4 měsíci +26

      What, so they can fooled by this clown Sam Harris?

    • @repolarrepolar9833
      @repolarrepolar9833 Před 4 měsíci +18

      Can you point out what was wrong of what Sam said?

    • @BassByTheBay
      @BassByTheBay Před 4 měsíci +16

      ​@@jacksonrauch9429The only thing an ad hominem convinces people of is that you don't have a substantive argument.

    • @TheMadmacs
      @TheMadmacs Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@BassByTheBay at this point, if you dont know the truth about the middle east, you must be avoiding it. so, accusing somebody of not having a substantive argument is disingenuous right at the start. when you start off with that, we all know what you are.

    • @BassByTheBay
      @BassByTheBay Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@TheMadmacs If you were trying to exemplify my point, you've succeeded.

  • @VaucluseVanguard
    @VaucluseVanguard Před 4 měsíci +49

    I worked at the UN for several years in the peacekeeping and security area. The UN is system of Agencies and organisations, some of which do great work to foster cooperation between countries on issues as diverse as international post to nuclear safety. However, large parts of it that are concerned with peacekeeping, promoting security and the delivery of services to refuges, displaced people and those in fear of starvation of endemic illness have become highly politicised and deeply cynical and corrupt organisations. Anyone who has worked at the UN for any length of time knows that UNRWA is by far the most compromised Agency. I have no idea how many UNRWA staff in Gaza are active Hamas operatives - that is those who will fire a rocket or use a rifle or RPG. However, that huge numbers of the UNRWA staff in Gaza actively support Hamas's campaign of violence against Israel is well known.

  • @powertrip1050
    @powertrip1050 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Again, thank you Sam Harris. For the clarity and comprehensiveness. I will be sharing this with decent people I know who have been very confused about the reality of this war.

  • @exoxy
    @exoxy Před 4 měsíci +224

    Thank you for keeping me sane Sam. Some days its all can do to stop myself from weeping openly at the ignorance and hypocrisy which is taking over.

    • @janienah
      @janienah Před 4 měsíci

      Sam…It’s a shame that you squandered an opportunity to inform your audience, and instead volunteered to be a propaganda, puppet for misinformation, provided by a foreign government. The right side of history is never on the side of the oppressor. without understanding the imbalance of power, the illegal status of Israel’s 75 year occupation of Palestinian territory, and an understanding of centuries.
      You need to recalibrate your moral compass. Justifying the murder of children and an absurdly high civilian death rate as “urban wear warfare”, is straight from the Zionist propaganda talking points. Shame on you. Suggesting that this Hass to do with religion is proof you have absolutely no understanding of hundreds and nearly 1000 years of amicable relations between the Muslim and Jewish communities. Zionism is a colonial political ideology. If you don’t believe me do your research on what the original name was. Judaism is a beautiful religion that is intentionally conflated with a barbaric political ideology to insulated from criticism and accountability. Like all humans, Palestinians have the right to live free or die trying. international law afford this right to all humans, including Palestinians. Over 13,000 children have been murdered with our taxpayer dollars, over 7000 women have been murdered and over 80% of Palestinian civil infrastructure has been demolished. The suggestion that this has anything to do with a clash of civilizations and religious ideology is laughable. Kindergarten level research would have proven that even Christian and Jewish Palestinians are part of the resistance movement Determined to end the 75 year oppression of Palestinians. They will live free or die trying. In case you forgot, Mandela was also a terrorist, according to the apartheid state, trying to discredit him. the truth will prevail and as always, the right side of history will be on the side of the oppressed… Not the oppressor. Wake up.

    • @twntwrs
      @twntwrs Před 4 měsíci +11

      Part of which is Sam's ignorance and hypocrisy.

    • @bernardofitzpatrick5403
      @bernardofitzpatrick5403 Před 4 měsíci +10

      So genocide is ok ?

    • @user-io6eq9gt6w
      @user-io6eq9gt6w Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@twntwrs sounds like you got TDS buddy

    • @exoxy
      @exoxy Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@bernardofitzpatrick5403 nope, hence Israel's response :)

  • @amyhunter7234
    @amyhunter7234 Před 4 měsíci +142

    Thank you for clarifying the definition of proportionality in war. Most people don’t seem to understand this

    • @MelbourneMeMe
      @MelbourneMeMe Před 4 měsíci

      So if there is a known terrorist in a football stadium, do Israel bomb it? What about a busy cafe, apartment block, or a hospital, or a bus... Israel is not open about how it determines each situation. There's a line somewhere, and the equation does include body count...

    • @twntwrs
      @twntwrs Před 4 měsíci

      Sam Harris doesn't understand it either after more than 10000 children killed and wounded by israel.

    • @Boostwerks
      @Boostwerks Před 4 měsíci

      Anything to feel better about the 28,000 dead and 2,000,000 starving am I right? What about the IDF blowing up unoccupied UN built schools? The IDF destroying all Universities in Gaza. Completely leveling the North (literally every structure). What about the IDF shooting tank rounds at press in Lebanon killing 1 (caught on camera btw). The Numerous counts of IDF shooting innocent Palestinians simply trying to walk to the safe zones while holding white flags? Sam is a well spoken cleric who sits in his Ivory tower to speak sweet truths of nothingness in your ear. Nothing more.

    • @andrewm4767
      @andrewm4767 Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah it’s pretty good!

    • @rnma14
      @rnma14 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Clarification is when you get new information.
      Yet this seems to be your position all along and Harris didn't change a thing

  • @MM-bt8ke
    @MM-bt8ke Před 4 měsíci +49

    As Israeli Druze (ex arab - i dont consider myself arab anymore, because this term was forced upon us minoorities in the middle east by arab colonizers from the arabian peninsula) thank you for sharing this video. This is well understood by us Israelis, Druze, Christians, Muslims, Beduins and Jewish Israelis but we are not great at explaining this. My family had lived in modern day North Israel for over 1000 years, as druze our ancestors teach us that they always lived along jews and until the ottoman empire where a muslim majority rule, there was fairly peaceful times and collaboration among jews, Christians, Druze.. it's islam subjection of all minorities to live us second class citizens that brought much of the suffering. Arab colonization is not well thought in the west and not at all in muslim countries.

    • @CotesDuQ
      @CotesDuQ Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@tamhiker1 what a croc. Over 2m arabs living well in Israel.

    • @CotesDuQ
      @CotesDuQ Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@tamhiker1 As I wrote, they are living well.

    • @MM-bt8ke
      @MM-bt8ke Před 4 měsíci

      @tamhiker1 let me tell you something, 1. I won't let anyone tell me how to self identify. Our druze community won't let overlord muslim arabs control how we see ourself. The title arabs was bestow on us a subjection/colonization. There is a term for Arab colonization.. it's called Arabization! I say no more! If the middle eastern jews managed to decolonize themselves from being looked as arabs! So will we the druze people.
      2. As an israeli Druze, jewish Israelis are not our enemy, our villages often are as close as 1-2 km from jewish villages and towns and they never attack us, they never force anything upon us, they live among us in peace and don't ask us to convert or be subjected to their way of lives the way muslims always trying to convert everyone to islam or arabization. The jews let us be, as they let the Christians and Muslims villages within 5 KM to us alone. This is why jews all over the world is 15 million, no history of oppressing and force converting others. How do you think islam expanded? Do you know basic islam history? Let alone arabazing native indigenous groups like druze by arabs. Zero respect to others, yet tell themselves their a religion of peace. Only peaceful Muslims I know live in israel and are good people with no desire to convert the rest of us to islam. The same cannot be said about fundamental islamist in Iran, Lebanon, Gaza, etc.
      3. I live in a town in North israel, where my ancestors have lived for over 1200 years, we live on a mountain overlooking Lebanon, when Islamist Hezballah shoot rockets into Israel that fly to our village, they don't consider that these rockets fall on Druze, chirstain, jewish or Muslim towns. And often the only thing between our homes and ancient towns built thousands of years ago being destoried by islamist rockets is israeli technology and israeli soliders risking their life to protect all of us. So weather israeli jews fully see me as an Arab or not, I can guarantee you they will 1. Not treat me differently to how they treat themselves. 2. Risk their own life to protect my home, my small children and my elderly parents. You need to understand that 99% of the media you are seeing online is either Qatari propaganda or American propaganda. On the ground, day to day, the reality is very different. 99% of minorities including Muslim beduins in israel, support Israel. And are as much part of israeli society as jewish.

    • @CotesDuQ
      @CotesDuQ Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@tamhiker1 I misunderstood your last response. Those in the west bank are living horrifically. If you want to blame Israel for that then there really isn't much to discuss. I'll just point out that I don't know what Israel could do in light of the fact that the only goal of the "Palestinians" since 48 (and really, even before that) has been to rid the entire region of Jews. They have been pretty clear about that in words and in action. So what can Isreal possibly do? And by the way, my original comment was to yours about Israelis seeing the OP as an Arab and the implication that he was somehow subordinate. Its still a croc.

    • @CotesDuQ
      @CotesDuQ Před 4 měsíci

      @@tamhiker1 I don't mean this to be condescending but is awareness of this conflict fairly new to you? The Pals have rejected two state solutions over and over again. As mentioned before, their goal is to rid the region of the Jews. Even when given the ability to govern themselves (there hasn't been a Jew in Gaza since 2006)....well, you saw the results in Gaza. They took the billions they received in foreign aid and instead of growing their economy and building infrastructure, they built terror tunnels and terrorists. The reason they live the way they do is twofold. 1. They are a certain security risk for Israel. If you can't see that then you are willfully ignoring reality. 2. Their ability to get responsible leadership in place has never come to fruition; beginning with Arafat and down through the years. "There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us" - Golda Meir. Hasn't happened yet.

  • @madhavi108
    @madhavi108 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Brilliantly , clearly , simply stated .. i wish this podcast would be listened to by millions

  • @betterman4ed
    @betterman4ed Před 4 měsíci +320

    Sam Harris- a beacon of moral clarity in this hour of darkness.

    • @JewTube001
      @JewTube001 Před 4 měsíci +35

      is that what you call support of war crimes

    • @synchronium24
      @synchronium24 Před 4 měsíci

      @@JewTube001 Your username makes me think you might be criticizing Israel for the wrong reasons, but Sam is indeed playing defense for Israel's war crimes.

    • @andrewgoldman9019
      @andrewgoldman9019 Před 4 měsíci +15

      LOL 🤣

    • @alexmacharia4549
      @alexmacharia4549 Před 4 měsíci +17

      You are deluded my guy,

    • @atlehman69
      @atlehman69 Před 4 měsíci +17

      Lol so many comments like this in every video I'm convinced he's got an army of bots

  • @jake3028
    @jake3028 Před 4 měsíci +115

    Solo Sam Harris podcasts are always the best. Keep up the amazing work Sam 🔥.

    • @jake3028
      @jake3028 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@KnowledgeSeeker-wi9sw Not at all the reason why. It’s because I can hear his whole thought process in as much detail as possible.

    • @andrewm4767
      @andrewm4767 Před 4 měsíci +1

      So fire! lol

    • @randyevermore9323
      @randyevermore9323 Před 4 měsíci +4

      "Solo Sam Harris podcasts are always the best." Not on this topic. The only people we've heard from so far on Making Sense are those who share his views. It just makes me wonder why Sam can't find an expert with a different perspective to debate with on this topic.

    • @cragjones1799
      @cragjones1799 Před 4 měsíci

      @@KnowledgeSeeker-wi9sw what specifically did he say you disagree with?

    • @mikescott5624
      @mikescott5624 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Cragjones, you'll never get a cogent answer, let alone a specific, from bankrupt trolls like "KnowledgeSeeker."

  • @MarkSHogan
    @MarkSHogan Před 2 měsíci +4

    A thing of great beauty. Thanks for pulling all this together for everyone.

  • @user-lp6po6ep6i
    @user-lp6po6ep6i Před 3 měsíci +20

    This podcast says everything that has been rattling around in my heart since Oct. 7. Thank you Sam Harris!

  • @Abu_Shimshi
    @Abu_Shimshi Před 4 měsíci +163

    Always refreshing to listen to Sam, we live in a world that we have made so much progress and many people still missing critical thinking.
    Thank you.

    • @CP-nl2zb
      @CP-nl2zb Před 4 měsíci +6

      Sam is a World Champion Pseudo intellectual.
      Sammy The Pseudo Harris.

    • @Abu_Shimshi
      @Abu_Shimshi Před 4 měsíci +18

      @@CP-nl2zbyou have 100+ comments on this channel, I assume they are all of the same character, you cannot be a real person.

    • @donnmckee4973
      @donnmckee4973 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Right. So hearing someone try to justify offing younglings as not evil in the first 10 mins of his video is refreshing to you?

    • @AndyColglazier
      @AndyColglazier Před 4 měsíci +7

      ​@@CP-nl2zbpersonal attack with no actual commentary on the content. Is that really what you want to go with?

    • @AndyColglazier
      @AndyColglazier Před 4 měsíci +11

      ​@@donnmckee4973is that what you heard? Because that's not really what he said.

  • @Cracktune
    @Cracktune Před 4 měsíci +111

    thank you for not shying away from this

    • @jmc5335
      @jmc5335 Před 3 měsíci

      Come on now. He's never gonna miss an opportunity to air his Islamaphobia

  • @iditbarmats
    @iditbarmats Před 4 měsíci +20

    The free world should support evry country who's threatened by the jihadists and the radical islam.. I stand with Israel 🇮🇱

    • @JonySmith-bb4gx
      @JonySmith-bb4gx Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ok let's play
      Which world is free ? ICJ verdict debunked your nonsense

    • @jonahtisamphd.6101
      @jonahtisamphd.6101 Před měsícem

      I agree. Israel is dealing with a fanatic group of Islamist Jihadists that believe in death than life as it guarantees them internal life in paradise is a dangerous cult. The free world must forget about their Muslim voters and stand with Isreal to
      defeat this evil 😈!

    • @JonySmith-bb4gx
      @JonySmith-bb4gx Před 18 dny

      @Redwood-sz9td provide proof . Waiting

    • @JonySmith-bb4gx
      @JonySmith-bb4gx Před 18 dny +1

      If u stand with Israel . Kindly show yourself to be treated how Israel treats others .

  • @Hollis_has_questions
    @Hollis_has_questions Před 4 měsíci +13

    It’s really creepy how what Sam says at the end makes me think of The Terminator. Here’s Kyle Reese describing the motivation of the Terminator to Sarah Connor: “It can’t be bargained with, it can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop - EVER - until you are dead.”
    Replace “you are” with “Israel is” and voilà, we have a perfect analogy. Is Hamas a Terminator? Is the Terminator Hamas? Either way, Reese’s description of the four key factors of the Terminator’s motivation - (1) it can’t be bargained with, (2) it can’t be reasoned with, (3) it has neither pity, remorse, nor fear, and (4) it won’t stop until [Israel] is dead - are as true for Hamas as they are for a fictional remorseless killing machine.
    Remember: Factors don’t care about your feelings.

    • @paulbuschman8318
      @paulbuschman8318 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Replace "It" with "Israel", and "you are" with "all Palestinians". There, fixed it for ya.

    • @theresaburdett1054
      @theresaburdett1054 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@paulbuschman8318Bulldust

    • @VesnaVK
      @VesnaVK Před 20 dny

      @@paulbuschman8318 20% of Israeli citizens are non-Jewish, mostly Arabs. They serve in government and all other parts of society. 0% of Gaza residents are Jewish. Now explain, how does your version fix it?

  • @lanishx8935
    @lanishx8935 Před 4 měsíci +121

    Clarity and bravery, even when it's unpopular. Needed now more than ever. Thanks, Sam.

    • @fuzzybunnyluv
      @fuzzybunnyluv Před 4 měsíci +2

      That’s such a dode shlarfing say nothing comment

    • @lanishx8935
      @lanishx8935 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @roopprabhu it was just a compliment, you over here expecting a full, profound deconstruction of the video in the CZcams comments? Lmao

    • @williammcarthur1966
      @williammcarthur1966 Před 4 měsíci

      @@fuzzybunnyluv to be honest, i personally wouldn't share this comment but fuck me are you right. can we please have less dick sucking of the content creator everyone? at least skim the surface and allude to whatever sam says that was "clear and brave". it honestly makes me think these are just bots or maybe its people who have something affirmed by the content creator and they just cant resist the dick sucking praise. this shit is everywhere - it's annoying, fawning, and you wouldn't be able to say it IRL without feeling cringe.

    • @andrewm4767
      @andrewm4767 Před 4 měsíci

      That is bravery like when an actress wears a specific dress to the Oscar’s- omg so brave! She totally pulled it off

    • @joaopedrosousa5636
      @joaopedrosousa5636 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Genocide supporter supports genocide supporter, how often does that occur?

  • @MelFinehout
    @MelFinehout Před 4 měsíci +138

    I had to send this to a few people. Man, what a bizarre world we live in now.

    • @user-uq6bz1ri8j
      @user-uq6bz1ri8j Před 4 měsíci +6

      And Sam isn't inherently biased. He presents facts in an attempt to educate those willing to listen.

    • @bjkarana
      @bjkarana Před 4 měsíci +4

      Strange times!

    • @geralyned9530
      @geralyned9530 Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-uq6bz1ri8j Unfortunately, his perspective is censored by the media. He hasn't gone to Palestine to find out for himself the truth.

    • @Simon89Jeppesen
      @Simon89Jeppesen Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@user-uq6bz1ri8j And you have no arguments against him

    • @MelFinehout
      @MelFinehout Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@user-uq6bz1ri8j I don’t know if ai agree that he’s not inherently biased. He is a Jew after all. I think he does a good job of staying consistent to his intellectual standards despite innate bias.

  • @fairlinda1
    @fairlinda1 Před 4 měsíci +4

    So BEAUTIFUL. I cried as the antisemitism and the disinformation about Israel's motives to rid Gaza of Hamas is so full on in the UK where I live that hearing Sam Harris is like a reassuring hand on my arm.

    • @jmc5335
      @jmc5335 Před 4 měsíci

      Would it be antisemitic to blame Jews for this?

    • @matikramer9648
      @matikramer9648 Před 2 měsíci

      He is not alone speaking out about it
      There are more

  • @honestlyforreal6304
    @honestlyforreal6304 Před 4 měsíci +24

    This needs to be a Netflix special

  • @Pod6168
    @Pod6168 Před 4 měsíci +92

    Sam, you don’t have nearly enough exposure. Your words need to be heard by hundreds of millions, not tens of thousands.

    • @andrewm4767
      @andrewm4767 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Not sure if this is a sarcastic slight but is funny if it is

    • @nervinokaras
      @nervinokaras Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@andrewm4767it's not

    • @peterhel1077
      @peterhel1077 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@andrewm4767 what's sarcastic here? I can only see your comment with undertone.

    • @andrewm4767
      @andrewm4767 Před 4 měsíci

      @@peterhel1077 I’m sure every Zionist on earth is aware of Sam Harris- let’s not try and add anymore followers

    • @juspe123
      @juspe123 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@LeoDeBrowne He might of lost all credibility and audience in the eyes of all conspiracy theorists who believe facebook posts and not medical professionals. It's only good thing they have their tin foil hat gatherings elsewhere.

  • @alexherbert9404
    @alexherbert9404 Před 4 měsíci +4

    " reciprocal savagery"....such a great phrase to illustrate the inanity of the term "proportional response"..

  • @amiwettstein1639
    @amiwettstein1639 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Gosh dang. I have been writing a sort of sloppy, disorganized dissertation for “fun” (for myself) since Oct. 7th. I’ve combed obsessively through articles and all manner of resources. It’s like 15 pages long and this absolute treasure of a podcast says everything I’ve written but in a succinct, articulate way. Thank you for putting this out there. The misinformation that has been spread and that is spreading about this topic isn’t just unfortunate, but potentially deadly. What’s gone on on U.S. campuses is pure lunacy.

  • @RobBenjamin557
    @RobBenjamin557 Před 4 měsíci +88

    This was one of the most clear concise, comprehensive talks on a subject from sam since the black lives matter episode. Really good.

    • @andrewm4767
      @andrewm4767 Před 4 měsíci +3

      100% -pure one sided talking points- always good!

    • @raina4732
      @raina4732 Před 4 měsíci +13

      @@andrewm4767then go through each point and refute it with evidence. But you can’t, so you won’t.

    • @andrewm4767
      @andrewm4767 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@raina4732 I could actually do a few and I’m nowhere near an expert on the topic-

    • @SmokeyEternal
      @SmokeyEternal Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@andrewm4767 Do it then

    • @geekylove3603
      @geekylove3603 Před 4 měsíci

      It's because of people like Sam and Coleman that thousands of Muslims can be killed by the West without consequences in Iraq 91 and 2003 plus now in Syria, Yemen and Palestine.
      Muslims have been k
      murdered by the West for decades.
      It is any wonder that they are slightly peeved lol.
      But Coleman and Sam and Kon and other immoral scum still at like the victim.
      What a strange world we live in.

  • @knowingphilosophy3901
    @knowingphilosophy3901 Před 4 měsíci +30

    Sam,
    This proves that your words do not shy away from any truth. This again shows that your voice is a necessary condition these days to keep reason on track. Please continue to spread your wisdom, even if it seems difficult sometimes. Thank you for showing clarity in a time of derangement❤️

    • @geralyned9530
      @geralyned9530 Před 4 měsíci

      There's no wisdom here. It is shocking that he has swallowed Israeli propaganda whole. He needs to get outside of the Zioinist bubble and the media whitewash in order to find out the truth.

    • @RobespierreThePoof
      @RobespierreThePoof Před 2 měsíci

      It's amazing to see the sizable number of Harris listeners on this page who immediately stopped listening to him as soon as he took up this topic.
      I looked at some of their other comments on his videos and it's very peculiar. They refuse to recognize the logical contradictions on their own views. Somehow, when its Israel, radical Islamists become freedom fighters to them.
      It's very hard to understand how they don't recognize the flaws in their own thinking. And I'm struggling to find any explanation other than "the Iranian / Palestinian propaganda machine is very effective" or "is it latent antisemitic bias that keeps then from actually listening to Israelis?"

  • @jackna9185
    @jackna9185 Před 4 měsíci +47

    It's an understatement to say that Sam is saying the obvious. But don't tell this to Al Jazeera or Hamas

    • @Liddy-lr5uy
      @Liddy-lr5uy Před 4 měsíci +5

      Or the majority of the international community condemning Israeli actions?

    • @inbox0000
      @inbox0000 Před 4 měsíci +6

      yet he ignores the atrocities comitted by the IDF labelling them "mistakes and poor judgement" and that war crimes will "eventually" happen..they have already happened.

    • @Foster-rv6ty
      @Foster-rv6ty Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@inbox0000Can you say one thing that your community did wrong? It is shocking that you people have never own up to anything. Nothing is your fault. The rest of the world is ALWAYS at fault.
      Any culture that is lacking in self-awareness self-reflection and self-criticism cannot prosper.

    • @_anon464
      @_anon464 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@inbox0000 The key difference is that mistakes and poor judgement are inevitable, even with the best of intention, whereas the systematic and deliberate targeting of non-combatants, or pursuit of jihad/martyrdom are intrinsically detrimental.
      There will always be isolated rogue actors (when there is sufficient tension as with this situation) and humans always make occasional mistakes and in war, that can have terrible consequences. To see the difference, consider Sam's point at the end about what the world would look like if each group had total power. If Hamas had total power, automatic genocide and/or enslavement of all Israelis.... Israel essentially has total military power, yet less than 1pc of Palestinians are dead in 6 months of war.

    • @RobespierreThePoof
      @RobespierreThePoof Před 2 měsíci

      It's not obvious at all. Why would you say that. This perspective has been buried by a deluge of disinformation and propaganda coming from the Iran-Hamas axis.
      And even without that nonsense, some of these details still wouldn't be obvious to people who do not know the history or follow the conduct relatively carefully.

  • @walterbenjamin1386
    @walterbenjamin1386 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The most candid, clear discussion of this nightmarish situation.

  • @michael3287
    @michael3287 Před 4 měsíci +13

    Such clarity!

  • @elena_007
    @elena_007 Před 4 měsíci +124

    Finally, someone said it without flinching. The reality is so terrifying that people are willing to believe anything, anything else; and, of course, blame the victim. Otherwise, we'll have to admit the truth and act on it. And that is too scary.

    • @SDRDS96169
      @SDRDS96169 Před 4 měsíci +9

      Absolutely. You have summed it up well accurately.

    • @stickjohnny
      @stickjohnny Před 4 měsíci +8

      Blaming innocent Palestinian civillians for their own slaughter is pretty victim-blamey.

    • @Boostwerks
      @Boostwerks Před 4 měsíci

      Israel certainly is the victim of the Oct 7th attack by Hamas. They are however, (and more importantly I would argue) the perpetrator of an occupation, blockade, illegal settlements, consistent murder and control over a 2,000,000+ indigenous population. One could quite easily make the argument that Israel has been doing EXACTLY what Hamas did on Oct 7th, but more discreetly and over the span of the last 60+yrs. The evidence is out there, but one has to be willing to look.

    • @elena_007
      @elena_007 Před 4 měsíci +12

      @@stickjohnny Where did you hear Sam blaming innocent Palestinian civillians?

    • @user-uq6bz1ri8j
      @user-uq6bz1ri8j Před 4 měsíci +3

      This is a precise statement of reality. Thank you.

  • @kmg474
    @kmg474 Před 24 dny +1

    1 myth about Sam: He understands morality.

  • @RodinThink28
    @RodinThink28 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Very well thought out, informed and hard-hitting narrative. The 5 points perfectly illustrate the issues facing not just the mid-east, but the world at large. It's a battle between civilized societies and the death cults.

  • @uk7769
    @uk7769 Před 4 měsíci +10

    thank you for being you Sam Harris.

  • @fernandovianna3691
    @fernandovianna3691 Před 4 měsíci +16

    Never seen such complete, fact-based, dispassionate and crystal-clear comments on the subject. Thank you.

  • @clausjuel1782
    @clausjuel1782 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Dear Sam, Thanks for this clarity. Clarity has to have power, if so, yours is the clearest one of all clarity. I would just hope, you will act with the same clarity. Action by folks like you is needed, it's high time. Thanks again. ❤

  • @andrealeaist
    @andrealeaist Před 4 měsíci +2

    I appreciate your rational contribution to the dialogue Sam, thank you.

  • @majidjamili2157
    @majidjamili2157 Před 4 měsíci +47

    hey, I'm commenting from inside Iran, ask me anything ... ?!!!

    • @yehudagreenfield
      @yehudagreenfield Před 4 měsíci +6

      A few questions:
      1. Does the Iranian population in general support israel? I see a lot of support from Persians outside of Iran but I'm not sure if that represents Iranians within Iran.
      2. It seems like there's a people's uprising against the Islamic regime. Do you think they will succeed in overturning the government and putting another system in place?
      3. Are you allowed unfiltered internet access there?

    • @majidjamili2157
      @majidjamili2157 Před 4 měsíci +57

      ​@@yehudagreenfield Hey, all the big questions. HAHA
      - I'd say there is a huge support from inside Iran as well. However, you can't find people publicly expressing it for many reasons. The biggest one is the oppressive regime in Iran which bans all of that. I'm one of the supporters BTW, hope the war ends soon in favour of innocent people on both sides. If you read the history of relationships before the Islamic revolution, you will find out why there is a huge tie between Persians and Jews. and how the revolution ruined everything...
      - True, there have been movements inside Iran against the autocracy for decades. I'm certain that big change will happen one day, the new generations are far more informed, educated and smarter. They give me the hope of a better future for Iran and the region. - The internet is heavily filtered, I'm using a VPN system providing me with an Australian IP so I can access social media etc.
      Hope that info helps

    • @SandraKanferClarke
      @SandraKanferClarke Před 4 měsíci +22

      Stay safe

    • @domsnow6418
      @domsnow6418 Před 4 měsíci +17

      @@majidjamili2157stay safe. Hope
      You‘ll get rid of your oppressors.

    • @majidjamili2157
      @majidjamili2157 Před 4 měsíci +18

      @@domsnow6418 thanks mate, we are pushing ... :) !

  • @Fomites
    @Fomites Před 4 měsíci +73

    Sam, I think this is your best yet. Very cogent. This needs to be widely understood.

    • @alpheuswoodley8435
      @alpheuswoodley8435 Před 4 měsíci

      Translations "Sam, I too support genocide and war crimes, and I feel less monstrous hearing your propaganda"

  • @clivespendlove5993
    @clivespendlove5993 Před 4 měsíci +11

    This sounds so convincing to me. I have long noticed that non-fundamentalists (such as I used to be) mostly seem incapable of understanding the danger of fundamentalist mentalities. This is the most worrying aspect of the present situation.

  • @travelmusic1113
    @travelmusic1113 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I don’t always agree with Sam Harris, but this is brilliant. Verbal and moral clarity.

  • @Nesendrea
    @Nesendrea Před 4 měsíci +127

    “In general, we are not talking about people who are part of the reality-based community.”
    One day, I hope to be capable of half such diplomatic fluency when pointing out backward, iron-age religious zealotry.

    • @Jesus2point3
      @Jesus2point3 Před 4 měsíci

      In reality, who the hell are you talking about? To tell you the truth, i know many Muslims. In fact, i happen to be one. The truth to the problem are the Christians my friend, and all their #WhiteRinger friends. When you believe 1 man can be God, what's gonna' stop you from believing you're one too? Nothing! If you'd open your eyes, & think for yourself, you may begin to see the light. You've been manipulated all your life, and you can't tell the truth from a lie!

    • @Rheologist
      @Rheologist Před 4 měsíci

      Although I agree, note that "the reality-based community" is a term from Jonathan Rauch's book which Sam discussed with him in the last podcast.

    • @punapeter
      @punapeter Před 4 měsíci

      that would be the 3 man made religions in that area.

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 Před 4 měsíci

      Sam is so far from reality it's crazy. But he's right that it's a clash of civilizations. The west is sinking fast as the east rises. That's reality. And it's a reality that beginning to steamroll due to the total incompetence of western leadership...

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 Před 4 měsíci

      Sam is so far from reality it's crazy. But he's correct in calling the situation a clash of civilizations.

  • @creatorsremose
    @creatorsremose Před 4 měsíci +61

    What concerns me, as a citizen of Holland, is that not a single Muslim leader of any Islamic community in the world, not a single one, has condemned or opposed what happened. They all expressed anything from denial to support of it. The following pro-Palestine protests were exemplary enough of the support Oct 7th in those communities. This leads me to think that most, if not all, Muslims in our country will not make the right moral choice when it comes to choosing between our Western way of life and values to theirs. They're here only for the money they get from welfare, it seems.

    • @alex8491
      @alex8491 Před 4 měsíci

      Not only, they will conquer rudderless moral relativistic weak West.

    • @grapefruitpineapple7667
      @grapefruitpineapple7667 Před 4 měsíci +9

      The leader of Bahrain publically condemned Hamas. He also criticized Israel for their air strikes. But he certainly did not celebrate Hamas and was opposed to them.

    • @user-lt2tu9wr7y
      @user-lt2tu9wr7y Před 4 měsíci +1

      I understand your concern.

    • @Custardpie174
      @Custardpie174 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Brother they will make a choice....and it won't be good for you.....

    • @michaelehrmann-falkenau7645
      @michaelehrmann-falkenau7645 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I think you are only here to state your right-wing, narrow-minded views. No wonder you yourself don't condemn Likud

  • @85326062
    @85326062 Před 23 dny

    I have read several of your books and always found them, not only making sense but also essential to forming a balanced opinion on the topics addressed by the books. I would love to join and be able to follow all your content, but as an Age Pensioner unfortunately cannot afford the monthly subscription fee.

  • @annabizaro-doo-dah
    @annabizaro-doo-dah Před 4 měsíci +8

    I know what you say about jihadists is not propaganda. How? Because I once was a religious fundamentalist. Fortunately my religion was anti war. But i longed to be a martyr as my one sure way of making it to paradise. I know how dangerous fundamentalist reigion is, let alone a violent one.

    • @RobespierreThePoof
      @RobespierreThePoof Před 2 měsíci

      Fundamentalism is a Christian concept. There's a similar concept in islam but it is called Salafist Forgive me but ... If you were a to fundamentalist Christian, I am struggling to think of which denomination is anti-war. That's not a common feature in Christianity. Exception: Quakers.
      I know no other religion that has any equivalent to fundamentalism.

    • @VesnaVK
      @VesnaVK Před 20 dny

      @@RobespierreThePoof Islam and Christianity are not the only two religions in the world. Also, fundamentalism (small f) is not necessarily a Christian concept.

  • @incollectio
    @incollectio Před 4 měsíci +171

    8:46 - "Myth 1: Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza"
    22:31 - "Myth 2: International humanitarian law requires that Israel's response to Palestinian aggression be 'proportional'"
    29:56 - "Myth 3: The Jews are colonizers, and the Palestinians are indigenous people"
    33:19 - "Myth 4: The atrocities committed by Hamas - along with over 1000 Palestinian civilians - on October 7th were a legitimate response to oppression"
    35:41 - "Myth 5: The two sides in this conflict are equally civilized, equally entitled to respect, and equally worth protecting"

    • @buddahluvaz8
      @buddahluvaz8 Před 4 měsíci +84

      Thanks, no way I could have slogged through the stupid shit Sam was saying in this one.

    • @bodhidaka2145
      @bodhidaka2145 Před 4 měsíci

      please explain, I'm interested in the opposite view@@buddahluvaz8

    • @wombat6177
      @wombat6177 Před 4 měsíci +63

      It never ceases to amaze me how rude, nasty and dismissive people are on social media when someone presents an argument that challenges their own position. Small minds.

    • @ivanleon6164
      @ivanleon6164 Před 4 měsíci +19

      LMAO at the myth list.

    • @emilianosintarias7337
      @emilianosintarias7337 Před 4 měsíci

      yeah an opinion they have heard their whole life, that is no longer supportable by facts@@wombat6177

  • @talhaqureshi2394
    @talhaqureshi2394 Před 4 měsíci +167

    It would be lovely to see a debate between Sam and Norman Finkelstein.

    • @geralyned9530
      @geralyned9530 Před 4 měsíci

      Finkelstein is far more knowledgeable and intelligent. Where does Sam get his information? From Israeli lies and media propaganda.

    • @micahjohnsonboxing6409
      @micahjohnsonboxing6409 Před 4 měsíci +124

      He never would, Sam is a coward.

    • @CM3Dave
      @CM3Dave Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 What more needs to be said about Norman Finkelstein; this is a man who famously declared “We are all Hezbollah,” thus explicitly identifying himself with an organization dedicated to killing Jews and eradicating the Jewish state.
      He questioned whether it is antisemitic to describe Jews as killers of Christ, a historically antisemitic accusation.
      - He suggested that the number of Holocaust victims should be open to “statistical, scholarly questions,” a view associated with Holocaust revisionists.
      And praised David Irving, a figure known for his Nazi sympathies and Holocaust denial. He referred to Irving as "a very good historian," even though Irving's claims were debunked in court, and his works were seen as providing support for far-right groups.
      Indeed, what more needs to be said!

    • @mementomori8991
      @mementomori8991 Před 4 měsíci

      @@micahjohnsonboxing6409Norman openly celebrated the October 7th terrorist attack right after it happened. He’s a dumbass and a weirdo. Oh and he backed out of debate with Destiny

    • @clovis86
      @clovis86 Před 4 měsíci +97

      Sam would get absolutely wrecked

  • @mirapilates
    @mirapilates Před 4 měsíci +43

    Why doesnt Sam debate Norman Finkelstein?

    • @BroodallyHonest
      @BroodallyHonest Před 3 měsíci +26

      Because he would be destroyed by Finkelstein

    • @mathish1477
      @mathish1477 Před 3 měsíci +15

      Ahh, no, Finkelstein is a bargain rate thinker​r @@BroodallyHonest

    • @BroodallyHonest
      @BroodallyHonest Před 3 měsíci +17

      @@mathish1477 The only thing Harris is good at is making religion look ridiculous. But, somewhere along the way, he developed a vendetta against Islam and Muslims, in particular. He's extremely biased.

    • @mathish1477
      @mathish1477 Před 3 měsíci +30

      @@BroodallyHonest or, he's just right and you don't like it.

    • @BroodallyHonest
      @BroodallyHonest Před 3 měsíci

      @@mathish1477 No, he's a Jew who's got a soft spot for his heritage. He's blind to the atrocities of his own people

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I have just one word to say: BRILLIANT! 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @sudharsansundaram1192
    @sudharsansundaram1192 Před 4 měsíci +95

    Thank you Sam! We need more people like you

  • @ruthconradie8650
    @ruthconradie8650 Před 4 měsíci +48

    Thank you, Sam. You stand head and shoulders above the other podcasters. No one compares to you, your depth of understanding and your clear articulation of the situation. Your generosity in sharing this podcast is greatly greatly appreciated.

    • @jmc5335
      @jmc5335 Před 4 měsíci

      You're better checking out Ezra Klein for more insight

    • @jacksonrauch9429
      @jacksonrauch9429 Před 4 měsíci +3

      I would crush your boy Sam in a debate. He is an intellectual lightweight.

    • @jackd6129
      @jackd6129 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@jmc5335lol. What a joke

    • @jmc5335
      @jmc5335 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @jackd6129 Klein has had some really impressive guests on regarding this subject. All of whom I would wager would shake their heads at the reductive nonsense Harris spouts from the get-go here.

    • @jackd6129
      @jackd6129 Před 4 měsíci

      @@jmc5335 successfully argue against 1 of his 5 points and I’ll give it a try

  • @davidrice6224
    @davidrice6224 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm a straight man but I LOVE Sam Harris! 💙
    The man is a brilliantly clear thinker, rational and compassionate.
    Hopefully Sam is an Everton fan!

    • @RobespierreThePoof
      @RobespierreThePoof Před 2 měsíci

      Maybe Sam Harris can turn you out. Might be the one and only guy who could do it. Lol. Kidding.

  • @delsere7095
    @delsere7095 Před měsícem

    I was very confused when I first began reading about the pro-Palestine movement along with the Israel perpetrator narrative, and ultimately what settled it for me was the historical polling statistics of Gazans. This is the clearest, most logically coherent commentary on the Israel-Hamas war that I've heard to date. Thank you Sam Harris.

  • @martha8241
    @martha8241 Před 4 měsíci +37

    Im in love with your brain. So grateful for this Podcast..... Thank you Sam Harris. A BRILLIANT honest, genuine Mentch

  • @jonbaker2102
    @jonbaker2102 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Sam is a true genius- best line was that pacifism wouldn't have worked against Nazi Germany- or in Gaza today..

    • @hoodwiser7652
      @hoodwiser7652 Před 3 měsíci

      Unfortunately Sam has failed to realize it is Israel that has acted, and continues to act, like Nazis.

  • @CARambolagen
    @CARambolagen Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks, Sam, for setting the record straight once again.

  • @BitcoinMeister
    @BitcoinMeister Před 4 měsíci +53

    I am only 22 minutes in to this and it already is the best take on his situation that I have ever heard!

    • @janienah
      @janienah Před 4 měsíci

      Really?!? Omg….. watch ISRAELISM
      It’s a shame that you squandered an opportunity to inform your audience, and instead volunteered to be a propaganda, puppet for misinformation, provided by a foreign government. The right side of history is never on the side of the oppressor. without understanding the imbalance of power, the illegal status of Israel’s 75 year occupation of Palestinian territory, and an understanding of centuries.
      You need to recalibrate your moral compass. Justifying the murder of children and an absurdly high civilian death rate as “urban wear warfare”, is straight from the Zionist propaganda talking points. Shame on you. Suggesting that this Hass to do with religion is proof you have absolutely no understanding of hundreds and nearly 1000 years of amicable relations between the Muslim and Jewish communities. Zionism is a colonial political ideology. If you don’t believe me do your research on what the original name was. Judaism is a beautiful religion that is intentionally conflated with a barbaric political ideology to insulated from criticism and accountability. Like all humans, Palestinians have the right to live free or die trying. international law afford this right to all humans, including Palestinians. Over 13,000 children have been murdered with our taxpayer dollars, over 7000 women have been murdered and over 80% of Palestinian civil infrastructure has been demolished. The suggestion that this has anything to do with a clash of civilizations and religious ideology is laughable. Kindergarten level research would have proven that even Christian and Jewish Palestinians are part of the resistance movement Determined to end the 75 year oppression of Palestinians. They will live free or die trying. In case you forgot, Mandela was also a terrorist, according to the apartheid state, trying to discredit him. the truth will prevail and as always, the right side of history will be on the side of the oppressed… Not the oppressor. Wake up.

    • @andrewgoldman9019
      @andrewgoldman9019 Před 4 měsíci +5

      lol.. it's nothing but exaggerated claims and lies

    • @BitcoinMeister
      @BitcoinMeister Před 4 měsíci +19

      @@andrewgoldman9019 That 1984 story from the Iran/Iraq war is a lie? It is hardcore truth that sums up the barbarity of today's situation.

    • @pmacgilli
      @pmacgilli Před 4 měsíci +19

      @@andrewgoldman9019 Ok, so it should be easy for you to pick a particularly egregious example. I'm waiting.

    • @soarel325
      @soarel325 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Unsurprising that "BitcoinMeister" has this level of unintelligence

  • @stephenkane1074
    @stephenkane1074 Před 4 měsíci +33

    A drink of ice water in the desert.

  • @lloydjones3371
    @lloydjones3371 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thank you Sam for bringing clarity to this controversial topic.

  • @davegail35
    @davegail35 Před měsícem

    Thank you for articulating a critically important perspective that many in the west or so called global south fail or refuse to acknowledge. As someone who lives in Israel, yours is an important voice that we often fail to effectively express. We too have a small minority of crazies who tend to be loud, beyond the pale and are often seen, incorrectly as representing the majority of Israelis.

  • @wvhollargirl7549
    @wvhollargirl7549 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Thank you, Sam Harris. I understand JIHAD like never before. I never made the fanatical relationship to death before this sharing. You are a true voice of reason

  • @morrisgreg2176
    @morrisgreg2176 Před 4 měsíci +49

    Thank you once again Sam Harris

    • @jacksonrauch9429
      @jacksonrauch9429 Před 4 měsíci +2

      For what being an apologist tool to justify Israeli atrocities?

    • @morrisgreg2176
      @morrisgreg2176 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@jacksonrauch9429stay morally confused.

  • @jinnahmaelobrio9228
    @jinnahmaelobrio9228 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Thank you Sam for your enlightening discussions.

    • @tanimyasirazad9774
      @tanimyasirazad9774 Před 4 měsíci

      czcams.com/video/oFSyNdQf5uk/video.htmlsi=jMgZRA8tO9GElIie

  • @mycuteb
    @mycuteb Před 4 měsíci +27

    Killing innocent children should never be ok, on either side.

    • @HecticGlenn
      @HecticGlenn Před 4 měsíci +12

      Did you listen to the bit about intention? If you intentionally drove your car into a child vs you swerved a child and hit another child are very different acts. You're over simplifying the issue, as if no child is harmed by stopping the war, children will continue to die, intentionally, at the hands of hamas

    • @lainrich
      @lainrich Před 4 měsíci +9

      clearly, this podcast went over your head.

    • @gilkatchko6482
      @gilkatchko6482 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Thats right the difference is that in israel we dont think its ok while the other side believe its a sacrifice for just cause

    • @samuelgoldring9691
      @samuelgoldring9691 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Deaths are tragic
      But we don’t always get old fashioned Hollywood endings
      where the hero talks the bad guy out of dropping the baby
      off the terrace and then the bad guys slips off and plunges
      to his death .
      In reality the bad guy is about to throw 10 babies one at a time but though he is shot and dying he manages to throw one off.

    • @hoodwiser7652
      @hoodwiser7652 Před 3 měsíci

      @@HecticGlennthe irony is that analogy completely oversimplifies Israel’s past actions, present actions and, most importantly, indiscriminate killing of anybody in Palestine.

  • @peterdembowy4459
    @peterdembowy4459 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Thanks for being a voice of logic and reason.

  • @ambassador8524
    @ambassador8524 Před 4 měsíci +20

    I had this pop up in my feed and I’m really glad I clicked on it.

  • @marouanenajar3026
    @marouanenajar3026 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Well said, the Palestinians could have won by being pacifists, that is why Israel admittedly promoted Hamas. Way to go Sam!

  • @matthewwright257
    @matthewwright257 Před 3 měsíci

    A wonderful summation. Such refreshing moral clarity and rigorous logical thought is sadly extremely hard to come by in mainstream western discourse now.

  • @mmikee407
    @mmikee407 Před 4 měsíci +20

    Moral clarity is the scarcest of all virtues in the West.

    • @SDRDS96169
      @SDRDS96169 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Not exclusively a Western scarcity, it's a human brain thing scarcity everywhere on everyone even if the levels of scarcity on that front may be higher in the West than say some places in the East, it is still not exclusively Western

    • @mmikee407
      @mmikee407 Před 4 měsíci

      In the East, they have a crystal moral clarity albeit the morality they are clear about is twisted, deranged subversive and absurd, but clear nevertheless. The West in the main is morally ambiguous specially on the left and thanks to that new craze of DEI and cultural relativism is getting worse. @@SDRDS96169

    • @lloydgush
      @lloydgush Před 3 měsíci

      He's lacking a bit if he's comparing iraq and afghanistan to gaza. Specially iraq.

  • @QuixoticIgnotism
    @QuixoticIgnotism Před 4 měsíci +14

    God Bless Sam Harris! :)

  • @joshualewis9
    @joshualewis9 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the clarity.

  • @charleskatz2606
    @charleskatz2606 Před měsícem +1

    So well expressed comprehensive yet concise.Send to EVERYONE.

  • @rubdub4
    @rubdub4 Před 4 měsíci +41

    Sam’s monologues are the best.

  • @ariel6999
    @ariel6999 Před 4 měsíci +20

    Thank god for people like Sam who is the voice of reason in this age of sea of lies...

  • @YOGAthletica
    @YOGAthletica Před 4 měsíci +1

    Rational. Factual. And spot on. Thank you. 🇮🇱

  • @unom8
    @unom8 Před 4 měsíci +14

    Pacifism didn't work for the Palestinians either.

    • @WorshipinIdols
      @WorshipinIdols Před 3 měsíci +1

      Maybe they should try? Which government have they NOT tried to overthrow?

    • @fadidabban
      @fadidabban Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@WorshipinIdolsgood response, doesn’t neglect or nullify the original problem though, that Israel is and will always be an occupation.

    • @WorshipinIdols
      @WorshipinIdols Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@fadidabban no, Israel is not legally an occupying power. All territory west of the Jordan River is lawfully part of Israel. Israel is the lawful sovereign inheritor of the British Mandate from 1948. Aka sovereign succession. Israel has graciously allowed the creation of a Palestinian Self-governing autonomous region on its own territory. Gaza on the other hand has been fully independent and sovereign since 2005, and under the rule of Hamas since 2007.

    • @superme29-19
      @superme29-19 Před 3 měsíci

      Bullshit israel offered peace and two state solutions multiple times

    • @superme29-19
      @superme29-19 Před 3 měsíci

      ​. Can you explain who lived in israel before Palestines (muslims arabs) immigrated there from the middle east. You dont need to auctuly. jews lived there. So if jews lived there and the plaestines came and took that lands jews have every right to take it back

  • @jeremyevans8374
    @jeremyevans8374 Před 4 měsíci +13

    I don't know how any prominent Muslim would dare risk a charge of apostasy by attempting to publicly advocate for reform.

  • @gzy4407
    @gzy4407 Před 4 měsíci +30

    Thank you Sam. An excellent program as always. I'm so glad you're speaking out on this problem again, the world needs as may sane voices as possible to make these points clear.

    • @geralyned9530
      @geralyned9530 Před 4 měsíci +2

      A very disappointing perspective. He has swallowed Israeli propaganda whole. So sad.

    • @lloydgush
      @lloydgush Před 3 měsíci

      He ain't that sane if he's using iraq as a comparisson.
      Does he knows bosnia was a thing?

    • @lloydgush
      @lloydgush Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@geralyned9530nah, did you even watch the video?

  • @mspatnaik
    @mspatnaik Před 4 měsíci +5

    Sam is outright propagandist now! I feel sad I followed this person for a long time!

  • @albertbala3235
    @albertbala3235 Před 2 měsíci

    Voice of Sam is very comforting. ❤

  • @christophorfaust2457
    @christophorfaust2457 Před 4 měsíci +51

    Stumbled across this while responding to yet another Gaza ceasefire podcast. Dr Harris is a voice of reason. I am not! If the Islamic nations cared about the Palestinian people, they would follow his advice… but they don’t and it would seem, nothing is going to change their minds. Hate is a powerful motivator, but religious zealotry knows no limits. So glad someone was/is willing to acknowledge this fact besides just me!!!

    • @user-uq6bz1ri8j
      @user-uq6bz1ri8j Před 4 měsíci +4

      ...particularly since it's seems unpopular to support Israel these days.

    • @christophorfaust2457
      @christophorfaust2457 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@user-uq6bz1ri8j While I'm not a big fan of the way Israeli IDF has handled this mess, but I realize one side's negotiating position is death at any cost. If that's what they want, then so be it!!!

    • @jmc5335
      @jmc5335 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@christophorfaust2457What should Islamic nations do for Palestinians?

    • @jacksonrauch9429
      @jacksonrauch9429 Před 4 měsíci +2

      You mention “religious zealotry”… you include Zionism under that moniker I assume?

    • @user-uq6bz1ri8j
      @user-uq6bz1ri8j Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@jacksonrauch9429 Ancient history has religious extremism and conquests on both sides, but you are not being honest if you think there isn't an ethical difference, now, between Islam and Judaism/Christianity.
      I'm not going to repeat Sam Harris' lessons on this. You'll just have to listen better so you can avoid making foolish comments when you're trying to be clever.

  • @matejluptak
    @matejluptak Před 4 měsíci +6

    Thank God for Sam!

  • @BetsyRoutmanMarks
    @BetsyRoutmanMarks Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is everything. Thank you. I will forward.

  • @oggatog3698
    @oggatog3698 Před měsícem

    29:46 "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster and when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you"

  • @kraakelol
    @kraakelol Před 4 měsíci +20

    A shining gem of morality on the left. This is needed. Most pro-Israel sources are unfortunately «right wing» and outright dismissed by so many. This is obviously apolitical and calmly conveyed. Thank you, as allways, for being reasonable and reliable on these issues.

    • @user-gy1pu3gq3d
      @user-gy1pu3gq3d Před 4 měsíci

      Jewish supremacists from left and right, regardless of where they were born, are always ready to defend the diaspora.

    • @engramynd2314
      @engramynd2314 Před 4 měsíci

      😂

    • @strongblackcoffee9573
      @strongblackcoffee9573 Před 4 měsíci

      Nah. He's not left. More of a centrist. Check out Chris Hedges for a real left take

  • @Connaissances3
    @Connaissances3 Před 4 měsíci +14

    Excellent indepth analysis of thé situation in Palestine and the muslim world broadly speaking ❤❤❤❤

  • @otherpaca
    @otherpaca Před 4 měsíci +3

    I just talked to God and he said Jerusalem can relocate to North Dakota. North Dakota is the holy land now. This solves everything.

  • @Lillgull
    @Lillgull Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you! This is so sad, how are we ever going to solve this...I wish people in charge in my country would listen to this, we have so many problems related to Islam.

  • @Karsonn3333-ef1cc
    @Karsonn3333-ef1cc Před 4 měsíci +20

    If you haven't had a drink of water for three days (or a meal), and a leaflet falls out of the sky telling you to walk 2 miles East to avoid a group of bombs, can you do it?

    • @BobbyFromNJ
      @BobbyFromNJ Před 4 měsíci +6

      Irrelevant distraction from the points made with no alternative offered. You can't stop absolute evil by being absolutely compassionate. You have to be somewhat evil.

    • @Karsonn3333-ef1cc
      @Karsonn3333-ef1cc Před 4 měsíci

      I'm in basic agreement w/ Sam. I was referring to the so-called alerts the Israelis send via leaflet drops or cell texts to tell civilians where bombs will occur. I'm pointing to the reality of civilian women w/babies sleeping on the street with difficulty finding water and food every day...do the alerts really work on-the-ground?....NO. Some people can hold two thoughts or points-of-view. @@BobbyFromNJ

    • @Karsonn3333-ef1cc
      @Karsonn3333-ef1cc Před 4 měsíci

      Not a "distraction" BobbyF. I basically agree w/Sam. He points out, however, Israeili's drop leaflets or cell text alerts to warm off bombs to civilians. Does it work on-the-ground if you are starving & carrying 2 babies?...NO. Some people can hold two ideas or points-of-view at same time. It is not always fully black & white to have some compassion.

    • @user-lt2tu9wr7y
      @user-lt2tu9wr7y Před 4 měsíci +1

      Have you seen the maps of the bombarding zones and the non bombarding zones? They were pretty close, in order to permit a scape. Of course, if Hamas allowed you to scape.

    • @d.k.1545
      @d.k.1545 Před 4 měsíci +3

      yes. and you would have had water if not for Hamas

  • @PhenomenalWorld
    @PhenomenalWorld Před 4 měsíci +66

    It’d be interesting for Sam to discuss how, perhaps, many people can’t fully comprehend the threat of Jihad because they can’t allow in the heart of darkness, the base, bloodthirsty, demonic, savage, nihilistic psychological realms inhabited by Jihadists, can’t understand that “death cult” actually means death cult and isn’t some phrase meant to shock or boost a point. As Bob Dylan said, “See life from a fair garden and everything looks cheerful. Climb to a higher plateau and you'll see plunder and murder.” Does some portion of general anti-war sentiment come from an inability to have “negative capability”, to hold war and its horrors as sometimes inevitable, that practicing non-violence or being nice or fair cannot overcome real evils (I once believed like this)? Life has much light and so much beauty, yes. But there’s no doubt a shadow side, which’s mostly been Integrated and expressed by the poet, artist, or mystic, who fully accept angels AND demons without judgement. In order to really understand the reality Sam’s describing, is it necessary, on some level, to personally encounter some of the uncontrollable chaotic violent side, that heart of darkness within us all? Does this account for why people, notoriously afraid to feel things deeply, can’t wrap their mind properly around the phenomena of Jihad, and instead cling to a more superficial and palatable reading of currents events?

    • @C.E.Thomas1952
      @C.E.Thomas1952 Před 4 měsíci +3

      IMHO and with a background in child psychology (studies), teaching, professional astrology leading to karmic astrology and then onto Buddhism, my answer to you is "yes," it is necessary to "shine light on" our Shadow side, that is, what we do not want to face about ourselves (we also have in our Shadow good things, but this is not the discussion here). I quote Jung : "When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." This happens on an individual level and a collective level and because we live in the world of duality, there is good and evil and most of us are somewhere on this linear spectrum. I dare not write more here, but psychology, Jung and Jungian thought, art (poetry, writing, painting etc ), astrology (karmic astrology particularly), mysticism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Hermeticism etc... show the way. I wrote about a linear spectrum, but our spiritual evolution is spiral (just to complicate things). Would love to write more and what you have written is absolutely true. @PhenomenalWorld

    • @JuliaGooliaOnGoogle
      @JuliaGooliaOnGoogle Před 4 měsíci +18

      You just basically described me before 10/7 so I'm inclined to answer all of this with a 'yes.' Naivety. But 10/7 - and the immediate reaction from people whom I thought were just like me - changed me. Big time. Rose-colored glasses are off for me and I've spent the better part of 3 months examining and firming up my moral red lines. I wasn't even aware I had them. But I think there's a lot of people out there who are going through the same process, silently. Sam's courage to speak up here when mostly everyone is afraid to is very admirable.

    • @C.E.Thomas1952
      @C.E.Thomas1952 Před 4 měsíci +9

      @@JuliaGooliaOnGoogle There is another expression that might give you comfort : "The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable". I enjoyed reading you because that is exactly what happened to me to and my own transformation because of this is far from over.

    • @xavitheta5190
      @xavitheta5190 Před 4 měsíci

      Jihad happens, I gross behavior, but it happens when European jews invade Arab land.

    • @andrewm4767
      @andrewm4767 Před 4 měsíci

      @@C.E.Thomas1952 you wrote more than enough