SHOCKING Results! How much POWER is in your SHOWER?
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I appreciate your videos and content very much. We have alot in common altho ypu do way better video production and even production of materials and tools, devices.
But I really just made the comment to say thank you. I've been toying with the idea to make one of these for a long time but at the water meter location for our city water supply. I just have yet had the proper motivation. However you have proven I'm not so crazy with this idea after all.
Check your flow rate without the shower head (what's actually going through the hose you're using). Many showerheads have a flow limiter and what you showed on camera was ~2gpm as expected but then you removed the head for connection to the generator. Check this then adjust your math if it's different. Most homes are at least 4-5gpm.
And for those that say there's no point if there's a pump somewhere, the point is to save YOU money/energy, not the utility, and you wouldn't run your shower just to charge your phone. You're already running the shower to wash so why not use the energy at the same time instead of literally flushing it down the drain? It would be better, though, if you had a generator tied into your water line just inside the supply so anytime anyone used water anywhere on the property you get to power something, maybe a small battery bank or a fan.
I Didn't see you k factor designing your nozzle
Could it be that the gap between the wheel and the 3D printed walls is so narrow that friction due to excess water now flowing down fast enough, causing the wheel to spin slower?
I mean if that is the case then it is not only friction but also each "cup" on the wheel has push an x mass of water while it rotates
Dude, you need an isolation transformer.
Also isn't the three phase wiring you converted to more efficient?
Like that's why 3 phase is generally used for.
I love how you sacrifice your home just for our entertainment. You're really an awesome creator.
also u can tell he's a pro in doin that by the blue lab coat XD
And for his entertainment too
He lives in the woods as far as I know
I think this dudes a legend too. Wish all teachers were as passionate as him. My daughters going to be studying this channel in a few years
@@arielkozak ❤😅😂s
I really like how you're putting up the equations and showing how to solve them. Exposure like that is super important to helping people get more used to the mathematics.
I agree. Seeing the equation is nice. I can show a (glee generation child) the video and not have them believe you just asked alexa or aliens for the answer. You did the work and they can see it applied in the same video.
Idea for the next video, installing a pelton to harvest the power from the urinal :P But being serious, I love your new BUILD and would love to see a part 2 of this project!
You had to use the tongue out emoji immediately after talking about urinals
Yes. I like this idea.
Or flushing the upstairs toilet 😉
10:00 reminding me of my granpa, he was teaching me some electric stuff when I was ~8, and sadly, he passed away a year ago. What a great memory
I love videos that are like this. stuff made here, smarter every day, you, its these channels holding me on CZcams. Thank you for making my day, keep it going.
You like those maker daddies
@@skinife Makers daddies are the best.
First: I really love your content. Regarding improvement tips. You already got some electronic tips. So here a mechanical improvement. The pelton with two scoops per row spits half of the water to the top. Which in turn slows the turbine down while falling down because of gravity and on escape to the side :-). Maybe switching to a one scoop per row turbine fed at the high point and shooting out the water only to the bottom will increase efficiency.
weekend stuff, thats sounds better.
if i understand your suggestion its basically rotate the device 90° So that the stream is down and splashback is up and away.
Im not shure about a single cup pelton wheel improving unless its the plastic twisting stress adding a harmonic wiggle your concerned with. If so, i guess used the 3d print as a cast for puter or other metal casting pour? Somthing with more strength. Or an epoxy layer to reduce plastic deflection /cup twist. Cuz who has time for casting
@@scottadams3544, if you are able to rotate the complete device 90deg then no need for a single scoop pelton IMHO. The single scoop pelton was only ment to be used if the orientation of the device stays. But you are right there will be an issue with unbalanced forces. Regarding casting a metal pelton, using lost form casting, I could support with the furnace but I don't have access to a 3D printer (yet) :-). And it usually takes more than one try (for me) to get the castings right... So going with turning the device 90deg seems to be the easiest fix.
Hey Quint,
some thoughts on the electric side of the project: these simple buck converters are probably not very well suited for the project. You're dealing with a heavy variing input voltage that will probably drop a lot when put under load (e.i. when your Smartfone is connected).
What could wirk pretty well is a buffer - let's call it a rechargeable battery. And since you have this wide range voltage input, you can use a solar charge regulator for the charging of the battery: solar panels hve a wide voltage range and the voltage drops depending on the load.
A cheap TP5100 regulator would be my choice for a test - you get these in china for pennies. With a 3.7V battery connected, you can use a small boost converter to generate 5V to charge your fone.
Keep up the good work with your videos!
"Since metric makes everything easier". Thanks a lot !
What an interesting concept! Thanks for sharing your BUILD and the process you took to get there!
Hi, I am not an export, but I saw this same concept in The Great Escape with Richard and Tory on Amazon. When they overdid the flow with the wheel, they got and effect that made their wheel a lot slower.
I love how you use real-world problems as an opportunity to teach your children real-world solutions and lessons. It’s the best way to spend time with your children and teach them so many different things that they can use in their future. 🤙🏽👏🏽👌🏽I try to follow this with mine.
I would be more intrested in collecting the heat from the shower water that goes down the drain. 🙂 It is so much more energy. 🙂
There are products that do this. It's basically a coil of copper that feeds your cold water supply to the shower, recycling the heat immediately.
@@yosemiteanemone4714 true.
I bet your wife really enjoys projects inside the house 🤣 great video as always
if the videos pay the bills or for a vacation, i'm sure she does!
@@Jasonoid My wife would just roll her eyes and say make you put it back together when you’re done lol
I'm always happy to see a new QuintBUILDs!
Please do look into this further, it's very exciting.
Keep up the good work
Thank you, thank you thank you! These videos are awesome and is exactly perfect for my learning style. Great, subject matter with fierce tenacity. Great job!
Great Channel. I gotta binge watch now.
Great stuff! I'm happy I found your channel
Now I can feel less guilty taking a 4-hour shower. I'm producing power, mom!
280wh gained(assuming you got the 70w he said was possible). Probably like 80kwh used to heat the water. 😀
the quality of the editing and the graphics are gettin better and better. awsome channel. cheers from italy!
So cool that you involve your kids in the projects
You answered my questions about the shower, rain gutters and also potential energy storage with the water stored on your roof. Thank you!
go back to the wye wiring and instead of using a normal 3 phase rectifier, use thyristors with an arduino to control the firing angle. Your dc out voltage is determined by the angle. Then you can the converters at the input voltage where they are most efficient. My theory here is similar to MPPT instead of PWM for solar in that I think you need to keep the velocity of the generator rotor in the sweet spot as well.
Love all of your experiments. it gives meaning and fun to all these apparently dull formulas
I love the videos! Great vibe!
Wow, this is awesome! thanks!.
Man your videos are just brilliant! So much fun 👍🏼
Thanks for these videos.
Dude, I've always wondered this. Thanks!
good one! Always wanned to test this. thanks man!
I'd definitely like to see you explore this further.
I truly find ur show's very interesting and intriguing. What unique ideas u have, which makes it fun and entertaining. Great job man, absolute thumbs up. 👍 And yes, keep going with the shower experiment.
Great video .This is a great idea!. My suggestion would be tapping into the flow from the main water inlet into the property by fitting a turbine to convert the flow to electrical power, it would be be easier than tapping each individual water outlet to generate power as the flow rate of the incoming water supply is much greater and only one turbine would be required. Using this method power would be generated everytime a tap or faucet or appliance such as dishwasher, shower, washing machine, bath etc; is used. Using hydro power for generating electricity in the home is essential now that energy costs are spiralling.
this is a great suggestion, you could put a larger generator on the main line to power/charge a large battery for the house to run of of and put smaller generators onto the spigots to power water heaters…the water heaters can have batteries that would heat the water instantly on demand and use the power generated from use to recharge an continuously heat the water being used…
Oh man your videos are so very underrated. I wish I had this when I was doing my renewable energy project over 10 years ago!
hello quint, i'm from philippines and i am so glad to follow your works, i love physics too. keep it up...
You could try rigging up something to measure the torque from the Pelton wheel. Perhaps mount the whole unit on a pivot, with an arm to a weighing scale or something. That way you could measure the mechanical power being generated by the turbine under various speeds and loads etc. and compare it with the electrical output from the generator.
How am I only now finding out about this channel. Great video sir. Great engineering approaches/explanation here.
Pretty sharp dude!
Love these videos
You make great science videos! I love physics and I love your channel.
Amazing video and creativity. This is why I love the internet!
I love you channel It's so informative.
Quint it is likely you are over speeding the alternator. It's likely designed for shaft speeds around the 150 to 200 Hz output range.
With many alternators they are designed for a given shaft rpm range, if they are running outside of that range their efficiency drops off
Another thing to look at is your bridge rectifier suitable for the frequency you are feeding it with the high RPM of the Pelton wheel?
You could try a larger sized jet to flow more water to increase torque to the unit.
You are playing with compromises regardless of the math.
I have a rule to like all videos where someone puts a DSO on top of a toilet.
LOL!
very great explainations, you defenitely make them easy to understand
Love to see a follow up :)
Your channel is awesome
I’d love to see if a reduction gearbox would solve the power problem by slowing down the generator and reducing the load on the water wheel to help with surging.
I was thinking a transformer with the first coil config might be the way to go
Depends completely on the optimal speed of the impeller
It is not a power problem, it's an over voltage problem. Whatever power the generator produces, he wants all of it. He doesn't have excess power, he has excess voltage.
This is awesome 👌 👏
Fantastic work!
I love how you include your family lol.
Keep fiddling with it and you’ll get it. The more energy you extract the lower the discharge pressure and/or flow will be.
Maximize the power!!! I'm so interested in
The wall mount really took me off guard. That's dedication if I ever saw it.
Incroyable cette vidéo
wish you was around when i was in school, your doing a servce to these kids.
Extraordinary. Finish it and find out if there is problem or not.
I'd die happy knowing someone charged their phone with the power of ... going to see a man about a dog ;)
And now that my high school sense of humor is satisfied, great work, love your videos, keep em coming!
If I learned things like this in school, I probably wouldn't have hated shop class so much.
Maybe way back when. These days, if there even is a shop, you nearly have to take a separate safety course to even get close to a saw.
Try to use an mppt solar charge controller to convert from higher voltage to low. The mppt, constantly monitors the input voltage and tries to squeeze as much energy as possible, without pulling too much.
Add the same idea watching this.
the dog behind the shower curtain! lol
Thank you for this a hugest beneficial video. 😊😊
17:55 I think the friction inside the pipes is one of the variables that decreases the power. 😊
That’s something I’ve been wondering about for quite some time while taking a shower & glad to see someone trying to do it. I’m glad recommendations brought this up so I can Sub.
To make it simpler try making a in-line turbine that connects to a garden hose first to not make a mess in bathroom. It would be nice to charge something when watering the lawn/garden & have it connected to the sprinkling system eventually or would it be better connecting to the water line coming into your house or conect it just before the water heater. It would be a good combination with Solar Panels to charge batteries. For a simpler salution have something to screw on shower head then run a wire out to the charging station that has a light to light up bathroom when power is out & has a shelf to charge devices on. It would have an on board rechargeable battery to charge 2 phones at the same time. The thing I don’t want to see is people wasting water just so they can charge their phone when power is out. We get power outages all the time & I would buy something like this. I didn’t know there was a shower head that lights up & it would be great to use when power goes out.
I have a squeeze flash light & wondered if you can hook a USB port to it to charge phone. I have a Biolite stove that has a thermoelectric generator that charges my phone with wood. Have a thermoelectric generator at the gas water heater. I’ve seen thermoelectric generators you put on wood stoves. I’m all for trying to harvest energy anyway we can to be off grid. I’ll have to go back & check out your other vids.
8:21 I was looking away for a second and that thing popping out of the shower tripped me out 😂
LOL!
I also live i nthe beaverton area! Awesome channel and build. Would love to see you make your own generator/alternator for this as well. Maybe dig in more to the math needed to figure out optimal engergey at the rpm's you are at?
Very interesting project.
I think you can rewind the generator with thicker copper wire so that the current will increase. This will also help in reducing the speed of the turbine.
Go back to Y wiring and plug a solar mppt charger onto it. The MPPT will alter the current draw to make the Pelton wheel spin at a speed that will give peak efficiency.
There is a practical use of using water pressure as backup power. It's a water pressure powered backup sump pump. It uses the venturi principle to create a partial vacuum, that can suck water out of your sump basin. Generally used as a backup pump.
I'm sure it's not very efficient, and of course increases your water bill. But it's a very reliable pump that doesn't fail when the power goes out.
Oh, I think that the 80 psi might not be from the city, but the water regulator on your house. Something I learned recently and stuck with me.
You do a great job of combining the engineering and practicality of making something work. My personal idea is to use the incoming water supply after my water meter to turn a turbine. Just enough to be a charging station for a battery bank that is sufficient enough to run my home. The incoming water supply will be moving a lot more quantity of water consistently then just the shower. However I’m not at your level of expertise! Thanks for the video, keep up the good work!
I laughed when you simplified the simplified Bernoulli equation. It's just so fun to see out assumptions take away all out work.
"ponder hydro power" is that a sneaky orb meme reference? amazing!
Put the generator back to star and use an xmfr to lower the voltage then rectify it to DC
3:44 master of explanation !!!
That's an awesome idea to use the water systems already in the house to get power back on
I have a degree in mechanical engineering. I'm taking my board exam this month, I'll definitely recalculate everything. In this way, maybe it will help me master fluid mechanics and some basic electronics. However, I just finished reviewing and it's 3:20 AM in my country. I'll try it tomorrow.
BTW, you have great parenting skills. I salute you as an engineer and as a father figure 🫡
1:05 Hey... I've been in and climbed (internally) that water tower to do work on the antennas at the top! :)
YES PLEASE!
I love this!
Did I see 3 scope probes? Wonder what it would look like with an oscilloscope. They're getting cheap nowadays, and you shouldn't need a fancy/expensive one for this project.
I was also wondering if there is an optimal speed on the impeller. Perhaps faster is better
You might want to take another look at the wiring of the windings.
Perhaps the initial star config, along with transformers, could be the way to go. Or a gearbox.
Very interesting video! I'm subscribing!
Here in Brazil we use electrical showers. Usually 5.400W or 7.200W
12:25 I love the absurdity of this scene. It would be very difficult to guess what you are doing without any context.
add a gear reduction to reduce the speed at the generator. lower rpm might play nicer with the wind turbine
Hi, This is absolutely beautiful,!!! I am working
In my notes, I am very close to having enough
Research, info, that can be put into a booklet.
So, I will be starting on my booklet, that explains, step by step, how TO: build a house
Tiny house, Campers, or anything else. And make it ( self sustained ), generating it's
Own, power" to recharge a battery bank.!!
Awesome video! I wonder what would happen if you optimized power generation first without a nozzle or flow restriction, and then start experimenting with how to turn it into a shower head without reducing too much of that energy. Not sure how much restriction there was though.
In the mid to late 1800's a device was commonly sold that hooked up to your home faucet that generated electricity to run electric appliances. It was the easy cheap way to produce power. I was shocked when I first heard of these, I didn't know we had electrical appliances in the 1800's. These are the things they don't teach you in school.
I want a part two
You've got me hooked! I hope you find the answer.
Could you change the *diameter* of the Pelton wheel to make it turn at its optimal speed?
He'd have to redesign the whole case, because he's reusing a generator that only supports a certain size. I think a gear reduction would be better.
Not sure if someone else commented this, phones only charge at 2.5W when supplied 5V, you will need a QuickCharge/PowerDelivery circuit board from a battery bank to charge the mobile device at 15+ Watts. Just use the buck converters to supply it the Li-ion battery voltage.
I'm baffled confused and have brain ache 😕 but I really appreciate your video thank you for sharing 😊
Pretty epic video 😎
8:26 doggo with bunny ears
I think it's cool how you can hear the wheel slow down and see the voltage drop under load
Hi, to get maximum of the pelton turbine, the velocity of blades should be half the speed of water going from the nozzle. So you can try put there some gearbox.
Hello
I love your videos you really have a great content.
I want to ask if you tried testing the generator with a proper wind turbune controller( maybe an MPPT as for solar panels ) to be able to get the max ammount of power and charge a 12V battery with that.
Maybe this will help to get the desired power.
Thank you alotfor your great videos!!
nice Drok!
Imagine, Using Shower, Using Stove Gas, Using almost everything at the house, All Connected to charge the Batteries to those appliances that doesn't produce energy. MAN!!! House might be a Power Plant hahaha!!! Awesome Stuff.
I wish in the next 5-10 Years, Houses can now produce power enough to power other houses as well. Probably will solve our Electricity crisis to the countries that needs it. Heck, might even contribute to save global warming. Oh man! That Idea is pretty much Futuristic. Love this video!
So, the thing to do is: put a bi-pass in the main water line passing your property (provided it is something easy to do like it would be with a large pvc pipe like my water supply has in the country) and have the electric apparatus set up there. Then you would get power from all water to your home and everyone else's down the line. (I don't understand all the electric stuff, mental block for years)
I love this video, I was always wondering how much waste energy was in my water pipes. I also didn’t know Portland water was gravity, I thought it was pumped!