Awesome Low Head High Flow Grid Tie Micro Hydro 530 watts!

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  • I travel to a summer home in the mountains of Western North Carolina to meet Bill. He has come up with a way to pull a lot of water over a dam and into a permanent magnet alternator. He feeds the power to the house to supplement what is used. Bill is using Langston Alternative Power for his setup and makes around 500 watts.
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    The interesting thing about this micro hydro setup is the way that the system is started. There is a lot of water that needs to flow over a dam. To get this system going Bill uses a simple shop vac to pull the water over into the 6" pipe.
    No batteries or charge controller is needed. Simply a grid tie limiter inverter.
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  • @LandtoHouse
    @LandtoHouse  Před rokem +11

    The SethCraft Channel !!!
    www.youtube.com/@sethcraftworkshop

    • @Sewel7
      @Sewel7 Před 6 měsíci

      Nice Video👍🏻
      Where can i buy this types of generators? Thx

    • @user-hh6ex9md4w
      @user-hh6ex9md4w Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you for sharing your channel, SethCraft! By the way, if you're into outdoor activities like camping or RVing, I highly recommend checking out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It's an amazing power backup solution with a massive capacity of up to 5kWh, fast recharging, and a waterproof design. Perfect for powering all your devices during your outdoor adventures! 😊

  • @andreaskampmiller7756
    @andreaskampmiller7756 Před 3 lety +1360

    anti-vortex-airsuction-device: one old tennisball... Genius!

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +103

      It's funny there's all this crazy hydro power stuff going on and tossing a Tennis ball into the mix makes everything that much cooler

    • @quentindavis501
      @quentindavis501 Před 3 lety +10

      My favorite part

    • @davisemergency
      @davisemergency Před 3 lety +18

      I’ve used balls, coffee cups, anything that will float. When you’re drafting up to 1500 gpm with a fire engine, you get creative. Buckets even work.

    • @MrLaTEchno
      @MrLaTEchno Před 3 lety +12

      @@davisemergency Precise....there is no limit to our imagination when we start using our head and heart this combo makes Magic ! every time again.
      And I love that,......freethinking makes the world go around with no borders at ALL......

    • @mr.nobody5251
      @mr.nobody5251 Před 3 lety +19

      We need 2 thousand dollar vortex stopper.
      Him : tennis’s ball

  • @ayeshamerrydeath7501
    @ayeshamerrydeath7501 Před 3 lety +266

    When I seen him bust out the vaccuum I thought.... he should call it Hoover dam.

  • @Wayne_Robinson
    @Wayne_Robinson Před 2 lety +53

    The tennis ball vortex destroyer is the most unique aspect of this. That's a pretty elegant fix!

  • @michaeldavidhenson
    @michaeldavidhenson Před 2 lety +236

    As an electrician, my only issue with this system is the male plug from the inverter plugged into a general outlet underneath the distribution board.
    If you trip over that and expose the plug or a child pulls it out, those plug ends are a potential death trap.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 2 lety +39

      When the grid is removed from the inverter it actually turns off.

    • @ZenNaster
      @ZenNaster Před 2 lety +29

      I came here looking for this comment

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 2 lety +20

      Its the primary concern with this install. I personally keep my two grid tie limiter inverters locked up so nobody can get to them.

    • @ehoffman2006
      @ehoffman2006 Před 2 lety +16

      @@LandtoHouse If the sense wire is still energized but the cord is pulled does the inverter turn off the output anyway? If so then it is ok. If not it is a code violation of 406.7(B) Attachment plugs shall be installed so that their prongs, blades, or pins are not energized unless inserted into an energized receptacle or cord connectors.

    • @Themachinewon
      @Themachinewon Před 2 lety +13

      you know he could put a regular switching panel in and have power when the grid goes out... The Plug thing is so wrong in so many ways ~!

  • @BitKing_Ross
    @BitKing_Ross Před 3 lety +2063

    Lets admire what a gorgeous backyard this guy has, freaking awesome.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +40

      YES! It is really great.

    • @bigbt.v8707
      @bigbt.v8707 Před 3 lety +24

      With a lot of bugs and snakes.

    • @DogMan077
      @DogMan077 Před 3 lety +60

      @@bigbt.v8707 even better

    • @IndianaDundee
      @IndianaDundee Před 3 lety +20

      One word, Mosquitoes.

    • @BitKing_Ross
      @BitKing_Ross Před 3 lety +46

      Drake Docson water that flows especially at that rate doesnt provide much breeding ground for larva. They are ever present anyhow given his location.

  • @MARTINREN1231
    @MARTINREN1231 Před 3 lety +900

    Not only did they produce electricity, they helped reduce the erosion rate of the dam itself. Now that's productive.

    • @donovangolemon4200
      @donovangolemon4200 Před 3 lety +50

      I was just about to say that, you can tell just from how much quieter the water got how much strain its taking off the dam.

    • @joemama.556
      @joemama.556 Před 3 lety +47

      never thought about it that way, but certainly a great point if we take in mind that the dam maintenance is also your responsability. great combo, lol I wish i had a pond

    • @pablofrancogarcia1617
      @pablofrancogarcia1617 Před 3 lety +108

      No, they didnt produce energy 😜👊🏼⚡, they transformed it

    • @VanBourner
      @VanBourner Před 3 lety +31

      @@pablofrancogarcia1617 lmao you so pedantic so cool bruh 👊pedantic assholes rule

    • @MARTINREN1231
      @MARTINREN1231 Před 3 lety +10

      @@pablofrancogarcia1617 well, that's true.

  • @fluorescentblack4336
    @fluorescentblack4336 Před 2 lety +34

    Great little setup and looks like a beautiful property. Bill seems like a really genuine guy who is interested in doing it for the right reasons and with the right expectations. Offestting small amounts adds up. Good video

  • @JCJC650
    @JCJC650 Před 2 lety +251

    Could have a float sensor that detects the lake level and controls a 6" valve near the intake. That would prevent the level of the lake dropping too much and loosing the siphon.

    • @JCJC650
      @JCJC650 Před 2 lety +14

      Actually it's probably easier to regulate it with a device on the priming side. You could T off to an automated valve to allow air in and on the other side of the t an automated shut off valve connected to suction (also automated). You could control it with some relays and a pii / arduino. When the float detects the level lowering it would start to let some air in, more and more as the level drops untill the system stops, then when the level returns to the max the air valve would close and the valve to suction and suction would activate for a set amount of time before shutting off to restart the system. That was there are no valves reducing peak efficiency

    • @richardschofield2201
      @richardschofield2201 Před 2 lety +12

      I'd be careful restricting the inlet.
      With all that vacuum it could cause cavitation which would knacker the turbine.
      Better to let a bit of air in downstream to partially disrupt the siphon.
      I would bother with an Arduino. Too temperamental and fiddly.
      You basically need an old toilet. Use the ballcock and valve as an air bleeder.
      You may need a larger valve, or use several ballcocks at different levels so the system ramps up and down.
      It's a tune and forget system.

    • @wormfighter1
      @wormfighter1 Před 2 lety +12

      @@JCJC650 a piece of PVC mounted vertically with holes drilled in it. As the water drops more and more holes are exposed, allowing more and more air.

    • @itslegit7362
      @itslegit7362 Před 2 lety +5

      Daisy chain two or three turbines. Gain enough restrictions to slow it down and totally not have an electric bill. Connect the system to a nice set of supper caps, could possibly power two homes.

    • @richardschofield2201
      @richardschofield2201 Před 2 lety +9

      @@itslegit7362 you can't daisy chain them. Well you can, but the headloss across each turbine would be reduced so each one would produce less power.
      You would have to run them in parallel but then you would likely drain down the dam.

  • @bobbobertson69
    @bobbobertson69 Před 3 lety +263

    I'm glad you are friends with John Locke, he's done a lot on the island

  • @elephantsong7782
    @elephantsong7782 Před 3 lety +135

    Ive got no clue why this was in my recommendation but I enjoyed it

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +6

      Thank for watching! This video is popular right now haha.

    • @Wolf-xu1fj
      @Wolf-xu1fj Před rokem

      So how much power does it produce? Enough to run a fridge or two?

  • @rikvdmark
    @rikvdmark Před 3 lety +4

    Cool project :)
    Amazing to see home much water is going through the system instead of over the dam!

  • @edenfromafrica4725
    @edenfromafrica4725 Před 2 lety +5

    Well done Bill, even just a hobby, but its great to see your technical aptitude.

  • @tannerhadra803
    @tannerhadra803 Před 3 lety +95

    As a power lineman I love the fact that he has protection for us workers in a emergency situation, back feed from generators is our worst enemy

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +15

      I have used these inverters and they turn off immediately when the grid goes down. Its really nice.

    • @alabastardmasterson
      @alabastardmasterson Před 3 lety +6

      Backfeed is bullshit. No lineman has ever been injured or killed from it

    • @Cotronixco
      @Cotronixco Před 3 lety +7

      @@alabastardmasterson You are correct. That little invertor would blow its breaker or fuse immediately when trying to power up miles of loads.

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau Před 3 lety +3

      @@Cotronixco That depends on where the break is, say a tree has come down onto the power line. If it a rural area, you and your neighbour might be the only customers affected. Could a 5kVA generator power two houses? Probably. Especially if the major electrical appliances are switched off.
      Edit: This comment is more addressing @w.w was saying. Sorry, wrong person.

    • @yesplease6407
      @yesplease6407 Před 2 lety +3

      @@alabastardmasterson lol. that's a bold statement that everyone knows is false. why are there 3 likes on this? wtf

  • @TMFXLLC
    @TMFXLLC Před 3 lety +418

    Neat, everything is so much easier when nothing freezes annually.

    • @Pink_Noodle
      @Pink_Noodle Před 3 lety +11

      One option is to put together a woodgas setup for the time when it is too cold to have water flow; electricity would be more scarce but still accessible

    • @SickWheyfu
      @SickWheyfu Před 3 lety +8

      @@Pink_Noodle would a steam turbine be easier? Just boil some water to spin a thing that has the power transferred via an axel to the generator? You get distilled water and potash as byproduct.

    • @Pink_Noodle
      @Pink_Noodle Před 3 lety +4

      @@SickWheyfu that sounds like a worthwhile idea to me. Water based power seems to be the best

    • @instalacionesvaldes
      @instalacionesvaldes Před 3 lety +1

      @@SickWheyfu Pero al calentar el agua necesitarás combustible para calentar y eso es lo que se busca evitar hoy en dia, usar combustibles para producir energía eléctrica.

    • @instalacionesvaldes
      @instalacionesvaldes Před 3 lety +3

      @@SickWheyfu ejejejeje Yo tampoco hablo ingles, pero hoy no es un problemas con el traductor Google. Pensaba que iba a usar una caldera de manera exclusiva para generar electricidad, lo cual no seria distinto al principio de las termoeléctricas, que tanto contaminan los paises hoy en día.
      Va a usar su estufa que siempre usa y ahora la utilizará como intercambiador de calor, eso es buenísimo asi aprovecha toda la energía de la combustión.
      czcams.com/channels/ILyV80Rnb4BTKg0CslCarA.html
      Le recomiendo ver los videos de este hombre que implementa tecnología a la combustión, saludos y compartamos todos por un planeta mejor, me aburrieron los abusos de los grupos que manejan las naciones, espero que paguen esos infames que sólo se preocupan de las ganancias y no por el hábitat de todos los seres que habitamos este planeta.
      Espero tenga una excelente resto de semana.

  • @supercuda1950
    @supercuda1950 Před 2 lety +1

    That's a pretty amazing system. Add all these alternative systems up and it adds up to a lot of free energy that normally would be wasted.

  • @gregbishop1381
    @gregbishop1381 Před 2 lety +2

    Great channel ,good to see people putting up alternative ways of doing things

  • @caseylandis3561
    @caseylandis3561 Před 3 lety +23

    I love the clean organized simplicity in the basic turbine and plumbing set up.

  • @seppukun208
    @seppukun208 Před 3 lety +63

    Great! Now I just need to find a waterfall

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +5

      Or a creek with lots of head pressure as in my 10 part hydro power series.
      czcams.com/video/zPIec9VCrOY/video.html

  • @gallomimia7780
    @gallomimia7780 Před rokem +1

    The tennis ball vortex destroyer! Patent Pending... That's so awesome.

  • @atinoteintunovas9969
    @atinoteintunovas9969 Před rokem +3

    Not only is fun to see all that invention you guys have sparking there but it's also a wonderful and beautiful pawn-damn there that is just incredible that is not only a great idea but also something that nobody else have it elsewhere. That's amazing Guys, you have something that everybody would like to see. Congratulations!

  • @natekurtz429
    @natekurtz429 Před 3 lety +22

    This is probably one of the coolest thing I’ve ever seen

  • @maifeeulasad
    @maifeeulasad Před 3 lety +39

    Respect for bill...
    Wish him health...
    Really nice and happy guy..

  • @nickraphael5382
    @nickraphael5382 Před měsícem

    Thank you, gentlemen! Beautiful setup.

  • @gilbertofernandes2546

    Congratulations, Bill!! Very nice your power station!

  • @michaellowe3665
    @michaellowe3665 Před 3 lety +30

    It needs to have a floating needle and seat in the intake pipe to reduce the flow automatically if the water in the pond drops. That way he can avoid draining the pond and sucking air into the intake.

  • @kletusbobby7029
    @kletusbobby7029 Před 3 lety +247

    Surprising how many watts he is getting from such a low head. Goes to show the high power potential from a low head hydro.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +39

      I think the formula still holds true for low head power.
      (Gpm x head)/10 = watts
      So (350gpm x 15 feet)/10=500 ish watts

    • @911life5
      @911life5 Před 3 lety +41

      I’m guessing the fact that he has the outflow under water creating suction is a big contributing factor. If you think about it it’s kinda like the entire creek is pulling the water through not only relying on the fall of the water to the turbine itself. It’s genius!

    • @rhom5180
      @rhom5180 Před 3 lety +6

      a turbine that big with that good of plumbing should be able to power your entire house, maybe if you gut the alternator out of high amp gas generator and built a plate to belt ot in, cool setup

    • @raymondj8768
      @raymondj8768 Před 3 lety +12

      Yea but look at the supply of water volume you need that is unsustainable almost every were !

    • @someguyinsantaclara
      @someguyinsantaclara Před 3 lety +10

      @@rhom5180 the load would bring the turbine to a standstill with a high power generator head.

  • @darkjester47able
    @darkjester47able Před 2 lety +2

    I work in the pumping industry and right before he pulled out the tennis ball I was going to mention that he needed to get one! Smart man!

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 2 lety

      Thats cool! Yes the vortex destroyer is an important addition.

  • @henrymorgan3982
    @henrymorgan3982 Před 2 lety

    And the option to have a blackout, but still have some power. Super cool!

  • @streaky81
    @streaky81 Před 3 lety +148

    Obvious upgrade projects: meter the water level, add an automatic valve in there, make it self-prime - all fairly trivial and then you could just leave it running, then fix your meter.

    • @chriselliott12
      @chriselliott12 Před 3 lety +26

      Screaming for a Tesla powerwall battery system!

    • @MacroAggressor
      @MacroAggressor Před 3 lety +9

      I was thinking the same thing. Could be a simple as a float actuated potentiometer controlling a gate on the inlet. Heck, if you really wanted to, you could use a float on a lever to mechanically control the gate if you didn't want to mess with switches and motors near the water.

    • @SimplyStuart94
      @SimplyStuart94 Před 3 lety +18

      Also switching the 90s for two 45s to reduce the loss of velocity thus increasing the energy generation, better yet, move the drop to the other side of the stairs

    • @dukeman7595
      @dukeman7595 Před 3 lety +7

      @@MacroAggressor An old toilet float would do nicely.

    • @MacroAggressor
      @MacroAggressor Před 3 lety +2

      @@dukeman7595 Sure, that would be the simplest solution. My only concern would be with the on/off operation of it, you may induce unnecessary wear and reduce efficiency to boot. But, as far as a simple off switch, that would be a great way to go.

  • @r0cketplumber
    @r0cketplumber Před 3 lety +111

    The tail tube allows the turbine to be mounted up high where it is easier to work on, and still use the entire drop from the dam to the tailwater. The pressure at the turbine's exit is below atmospheric, elegant!

    • @danalex2991
      @danalex2991 Před 3 lety +9

      Exactly. It reminded me of the draft tubes fitted after turbines from my old engineering days..I never fully understood what was the exact reason for them until this video and your comment. Thank you

    • @r0cketplumber
      @r0cketplumber Před 3 lety +19

      @@danalex2991 Glad to help. Many moons ago in high school, I was put into the national honor society (much to my surprise) because I did a good job of translating several teachers' garbled explanations into something my classmates could understand. Nice to know I haven't lost my touch.

    • @Bill_N_ATX
      @Bill_N_ATX Před 2 lety +1

      The pull is as good as the push.

    • @julianblacksmith8539
      @julianblacksmith8539 Před 6 měsíci

      Why is the turbine at top. Wouldn't it be better, if it uses the entire drop of the water from the bottom.

    • @r0cketplumber
      @r0cketplumber Před 6 měsíci

      @@julianblacksmith8539 The tail tube pulls suction on the back side of the turbine so that the full head of the dam IS used. If you punch a hole in the tail tube right below the turbine, it will suck in air!

  • @-2u2
    @-2u2 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I must say, it is very cool - I've always been fascinated by Hydro power.

  • @Nisarjosh1
    @Nisarjosh1 Před rokem

    This location is so ideal, i want this kind of setup in my village.

  • @Dragonaud
    @Dragonaud Před 3 lety +4

    This is awesome build, it's simple and yet so very much effective. Salute to Bill!

  • @kennethakin6322
    @kennethakin6322 Před 3 lety +15

    Everybody should have a hydroelectric system, it’s really efficient and cool.

    • @daddyyddad1
      @daddyyddad1 Před 3 lety +1

      How? A lot of us live in a big city with no rivers close

    • @kennethakin6322
      @kennethakin6322 Před 3 lety

      @@daddyyddad1 I’m talking about when you have to leave the big city because of the nuclear war that will happen on November 11 2020.

    • @daddyyddad1
      @daddyyddad1 Před 3 lety

      @@kennethakin6322 we have a date here on November 12th

    • @hirohunter2314
      @hirohunter2314 Před 3 lety +1

      @@kennethakin6322 how did you know? Did John titor tell you?

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn Před 3 lety

      @@kennethakin6322
      Well Holy Goly you expect everyone of us to just move into the woods, build house and a hydrodam in what like 2 and a half week???

  • @simeonsimeonov5205
    @simeonsimeonov5205 Před rokem +8

    Brilliant ideas! I believe that there is a small voltage drop on the line that can be reduced by doubling the size of the conductors of the line. Greetings

  • @mattf3761
    @mattf3761 Před 2 lety +1

    One of the coolest things I've ever seen! Reminded me of my dad when he said "I've been thinking about it for months"

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 2 lety +1

      Bill is a smart guy. Thanks for watching.

  • @Homsangpradit
    @Homsangpradit Před 3 lety +20

    I love his honesty about the rectifier. "I don't know how that happens, but that's what its doing."

    • @Cotronixco
      @Cotronixco Před 3 lety +1

      Three diode bridges with a common output.

    • @josepheasey1114
      @josepheasey1114 Před 3 lety

      @@Cotronixco They would have to be high power diodes. But then again, 500 watts ain't all that much.

    • @Cotronixco
      @Cotronixco Před 3 lety

      @@josepheasey1114 Off-the-shelf diodes. Bridge 3 phases to DC. Nothing to it.

    • @josepheasey1114
      @josepheasey1114 Před 3 lety

      @@Cotronixco yup you already said that; you could drop a capacitor (to ground) in there too to smooth out the voltage levels

    • @Cotronixco
      @Cotronixco Před 3 lety

      @@josepheasey1114 Depends on the load.

  • @sween187
    @sween187 Před 3 lety +14

    If you put a valve (ball or butterfly) in that 8 inch pipe, you could turn it off, this would store water in the upper pipe (potential energy), so when you open it again it would start up the genny again with out the need of a shop vac.

    • @tylersingleton9284
      @tylersingleton9284 Před 3 lety

      Do you know how much an 8" valve costs?

    • @mk-jf1ux
      @mk-jf1ux Před 3 lety +1

      i made a knife gate valve from scrap for free, knife box below waterline in lower pool. so there you go

  • @jaydiproy3363
    @jaydiproy3363 Před 2 měsíci

    Really wonderful full project

  • @redstae
    @redstae Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing! I will be working on a system similar to this in the future. Thanks for the video

  • @rizfany
    @rizfany Před 3 lety +4

    i like how he explain the payback time information, so detail 👍

  • @ncooty
    @ncooty Před 3 lety +13

    As I write this, CZcams says you're at 99.9k subscribers. Congratulations on hitting 100k any minute now! You've put a lot into it, so I hope you celebrate this milestone. :)

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +4

      Yes! Looks like 73 people away from 100k. Today is the day. The channel has been a slow growing but well worth it adventure.

  • @tommybronze3451
    @tommybronze3451 Před 2 lety +28

    I know that there are limitations on location and practicality, but the turbine would last longer if it was placed down the flow path (low water pressure will cause cavitation on turbine blades and increase wear & tear) but all in all great job for making something green out of household materials !

    • @tommybronze3451
      @tommybronze3451 Před 2 lety

      @Artificial Hobos hmmm, don’t know if there are of the shelf self contained (with generator) solutions for that around. My only point was that if they are running it through submerged turbine, I would place the turbine assembly at bottom end and slightly restrict the exit nozzle (5% maybe) which would increase internal pressure and eliminate cavitation. But if the use something (like pelton wheel) which is built for air in the housing than my point is very much DOA :) but to your point pelton wheel might be more robust if stones get captured in the pipe. But going back to the placement - it better to extract energy from positive pressure which can come in many BAR than negative pressure that can only get to -1 (well 0 for vacuum but I’m referring to pressure expressed on working part).

    • @tommybronze3451
      @tommybronze3451 Před 2 lety

      @Artificial Hobos I love the ghetto style with washing machine motor :) Old engineering paradigm: "if it works, it works". In regards of Australia - I'm not sure how anybody could build any hydro there, one it's pretty flat, second water is a bit of luxury. But if one is so lucky to have both (river and decent elevation change) go for it. Thou in Australia, I would think solar would be better solution since sun exposure is a greater and land prices cheaper, but again all depends on what's ones circumstances. Going back to turbines, alto I think Fransic would be better than Pelton, I like the idea of aerator for a small pond and having some fish as well. Mist from Pelton could also provide nice cooling effect on hot days, so three birds with one stone :)

    • @tommybronze3451
      @tommybronze3451 Před 2 lety +1

      @Artificial Hobos Do you remember the name of that series ? I would watch it and maybe drop him some info on bearings if I found something obvious ?

  • @MultilingualKdog
    @MultilingualKdog Před 2 měsíci +1

    That is very awesome and renewable energy

  • @frederickstuart7495
    @frederickstuart7495 Před 3 lety +5

    This video was amazing, I'm glad I stumbled upon it

  • @gortnewton4765
    @gortnewton4765 Před 3 lety +9

    Clever system, very well thought out. Loved watching this.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you for watching. The system has worked well!

  • @themajormagers
    @themajormagers Před rokem +1

    shop vac is such a cool idea

  • @jewittm
    @jewittm Před 10 měsíci

    Absurdly impressive project

  • @ragingblazex5004
    @ragingblazex5004 Před 3 lety +3

    that was ingenious solution to use shop vacuum 👍

  • @jasonrichter497
    @jasonrichter497 Před 2 lety +1

    The sound created by a minor waterfall is also a benefit for animals, plants, and people. White noise helps me sleep in extreme pain. This is a type of medicine with no downsides. I wish I had that in my backyard for sure!

  • @plurplursen7172
    @plurplursen7172 Před 2 lety

    the rectifier, also called DC bridge, is such a simple and logical piece. It gets hot because of the surplus of energy in the process, get transformed into heat

  • @TheXanUser
    @TheXanUser Před 3 lety +33

    If he replaced each of those 90 elbows with two 45's he would get significantly more velocity.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +5

      That is likely true!

    • @786fakhari
      @786fakhari Před 3 lety

      Positive 👍

    • @navrajjohal9053
      @navrajjohal9053 Před 3 lety

      but would that not put extra load on the turbine ? does that matter ?

    • @benholzwarth2235
      @benholzwarth2235 Před 3 lety +7

      The creek might not have enough flow to allow more velocity to pass through turbine

    • @captainboggles
      @captainboggles Před 3 lety +1

      a 90° eblow can restrict flow up to 12% always use swept bends may be possible to do this with 4" pipe . running the syphon tube to a larger dia destroys the syphon.

  • @Licantropus
    @Licantropus Před 3 lety +14

    Very good this alternative! A fish ladder would be interesting, allowing migratory fish to pass over or around an obstacle in a river!

  • @zoesamuel8189
    @zoesamuel8189 Před 2 lety +2

    Love this, very innovative and inspiring. Good work sir.

  • @jr92648
    @jr92648 Před 2 lety

    Absolutely beautiful land!! And major benefit is you can make electricity if the system goes down :) I’m so jelly

  • @DwayneShaw1
    @DwayneShaw1 Před 2 lety +50

    This is brilliant. With the vacuum pressure you're creating you could probably stair-step a couple more turbines into the system - cover all your needs. Might also create enough drag to slow the drain some - so you have less worry with draining the pond.
    - Would a smaller pipe configuration slow the flow while still producing sufficient pressure to spin the turbine at optimum efficiency? - 3" or 4" to 6" pipe, instead of 6" to 8" ?

    • @troywood5463
      @troywood5463 Před rokem +6

      Some Ram Pumps could be used at the outlet to reclaim some of the water as well. Maybe? Thoughts?

  • @masonborden5594
    @masonborden5594 Před 2 lety +63

    The vacuum you pull with that flow is insane. The venturi effect usually leaves a lot to be desired in denser fluids (water rather than air) but on a scale like this with a 30% increase in volume at the tailwater you are getting a massive vacuum. Its actually beautiful. You could increase the flow but that could lead to several issues in other areas, and fixing those might require some shotgun science. Patch it all and hope for the best. Guess the issue. You have a beautiful setup, sure it could be improved but why do it.

    • @timhallas4275
      @timhallas4275 Před 9 měsíci +2

      He doesn't need a vacuum on that pipe. He has a downhill drop of 15 feet. Once that water begins flowing, gravity alone will "pull" water from the pond. But here is the real point. He could easily have drawn his water from below the water line at the damn face. No siphon needed. Also I am certain that this flow rate could easily produce over 2,000 watts, ending his need for any power from the grid until winter.

    • @jap13777
      @jap13777 Před 8 měsíci

      I’ve been wanting to make one, we have a cabin near sa stream, this would help to illuminate our small and poor community. I just do not know where to start and who to ask

  • @lorenzopiano7419
    @lorenzopiano7419 Před rokem

    the novelty is the priming of the system 💡!!

  • @MrSingh369
    @MrSingh369 Před 3 lety

    This is how passion looks like

  • @brothertyler
    @brothertyler Před 3 lety +44

    Great work, you can increase your efficiency by installing transformers by the turbine to raise your maximum open circuit voltage to near the limit of your rectifier input.

    • @researcher4good
      @researcher4good Před 2 lety +8

      Exactly. It's not efficient because it's AC. It can easily be made efficient because it's AC.

    • @dwbogardus
      @dwbogardus Před 2 lety +7

      One hundred feet is a very long run with high loss for 24 Volts. Put a step-up transformer to 48 V or maybe 120 V near where the turbine now is, and move the diodes (which need to be on finned aluminum heat sinks with convective heat flow) to near the inverter. If you pick 48 Volt step up, you'll need an inverter that expects 48 Volts, and there are some. If you pick a higher voltage, there will be lower line losses, but you may need another step-down transformer just before the diode rectifiers that feed the inverter, and losses from the second transformer may negate the higher 120V (or what ever you choose). 48V probably ends up being the most efficient. You also might consider Silicon Carbide rectifier diodes, since they are more efficient than ordinary silicon diodes, but more expensive. Since you've only got about 500 Watts to work with, it is silly to give up a significant fraction to avoidable line losses and diode losses. There is a very good reason power companies use high voltages . You can also use heavier cable for your long run, but heavy copper cable is expensive, and raising the voltage is the cheaper and more efficient way to achieve the same thing.

    • @holysirsalad
      @holysirsalad Před 2 měsíci

      @@dwbogardus If he moved the rectifier beside the generator, another benefit would be using the cable properly: +, -, and a safety ground. At such low current this setup technically works but, if I was his electrician friend, I wouldn't want anybody talking about that! (For that matter, I'd probably insist on a dedicated breaker and ditch the suicide plug)
      PV inverters work with higher DC inputs, an MPPT would be a decent fit for an asynchronous generator. One drawback would be cost, however: If he's pulling about 530W on 3-phase ~24V over 100', the drop over the ground wire - which is 12 AWG in a 10/2 cable - is over 20%. That's relatively quite high but at this scale it doesn't seem like much power, I'm not sure the ~100W or so would be worth the expense.

  • @erickleinwolterink3524
    @erickleinwolterink3524 Před 3 lety +231

    I mean, the hydro part of it is pretty cool...
    But the electrical side is a bit wonky.

    • @peto22
      @peto22 Před 3 lety +79

      Yep. He is losing ~100W in cabling at full power. He should move the rectifier next to inverter and use three core 10mm2/ 8 awg for three phase run from generator to rectifier. Then serious health hazard! He is using plug to feed power to socket!!!

    • @deadclan7796
      @deadclan7796 Před 3 lety +15

      @@peto22 don't use a rectifier at all.. he's requiring ac for grid and has ac.. hes probably loosing like 200W for that conversion stuff

    • @TheCanadaman1
      @TheCanadaman1 Před 3 lety +22

      @@deadclan7796 in order to grid tie direct he would have to generate at 60 Hz and 120 v - doubtful he is

    • @dl5244
      @dl5244 Před 3 lety +13

      @@TheCanadaman1 watch the video... he's rectifying to 24VDC and has an inverter with grid sync and disconnect
      czcams.com/video/V82SVeVXKcA/video.html

    • @dl5244
      @dl5244 Před 3 lety +15

      @@deadclan7796 His 3phase generator is is not sync'd to grid phase and frequency (it's rotational frequency and output voltage are flow and load dependent). rectifier electronics for only 528W are trivial to produce his 24VDC for battery storage.

  • @user-fh8ff7vj4d
    @user-fh8ff7vj4d Před 2 lety

    Great to see that they decided to do a new season of Lost

  • @trollking6111
    @trollking6111 Před 2 lety

    Awesome setup! Very inspirational!

  • @btdarterschannel112
    @btdarterschannel112 Před 2 lety +7

    Seems like a self-starting siphon would be really beneficial to use in this situation. 👍

    • @spirituallyinsane
      @spirituallyinsane Před 2 lety +1

      With that long drop and such a small head requirement to start the siphon, it could probably be started with a second of dam flow diverted down through where the suction port is.

  • @HomesteadEngineering
    @HomesteadEngineering Před 3 lety +3

    This is really something, WOW! Game changer. I am going to do some version of this for sure. :)

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +1

      I also want to try a smaller scale version!

    • @thomasbonse
      @thomasbonse Před 3 lety

      Pick up a copy of the NEC and read it and reference it as you are designing and again as you are implementing such an installation.

  • @MyTube4Utoo
    @MyTube4Utoo Před 2 lety

    Very interesting! I love this stuff. Thanks for the video.

  • @MMShaggy
    @MMShaggy Před 2 lety +1

    Here I am looking at this impressive engineering feat yet the tennis ball amazed me the most, lol.

  • @wrekced
    @wrekced Před 10 měsíci +7

    At 9:15 you state that you don't know how a rectifier works: It takes the positive side of each waveform on each phase to one terminal and the negative sides of each phase to the other terminal. Really its just like a bunch of one-way valves that direct the electricity to the correct terminal for each polarity.

  • @spacefreeman
    @spacefreeman Před 2 lety +10

    Would be interesting to hear how the system works in winter. I suppose water intake should be placed deeper to prevent pieces of ice sucked into pipeline and damaging turbine's rotor.

    • @Cromafia132
      @Cromafia132 Před 11 měsíci +1

      It rarely if ever gets that cold in North Carolina, maybe once in 50 years.

  • @PartyHard.
    @PartyHard. Před 2 lety

    This man must have an amazing aquarium!

  • @davidspez7267
    @davidspez7267 Před 3 lety

    Pure awesomeness, thank you 👍

  • @steveclark6352
    @steveclark6352 Před 2 lety +13

    Great video, really impressed with the suction power available on the outlet of the turbine. Instantly made me wonder if it would be possible to harness even more power by having another turbine which is driven by the negative air pressure being pulled through it? Could possibly even connect it to the house and have one of those old school built-in home vacuum systems, help further reduce his need to draw power from the grid.

    • @gooseknack
      @gooseknack Před 2 lety +2

      Interesting! A problem with the idea is reduced efficiency from reduce water flow in the line. Reduced water flow would also reduce vacuum/negative pressure.... with the right sizing of pipe in the system, it could work.

    • @shannonp4037
      @shannonp4037 Před 2 lety +4

      I was thinking a paddle wheel at the end where the water flows out of the larger pipe.

  • @gregwarner3753
    @gregwarner3753 Před 3 lety +23

    This is one of the most effective micro hydro setups I have seen. If 500 W is all you need or want this works. Good work.

    • @paulmaydaynight9925
      @paulmaydaynight9925 Před 3 lety

      exactly, the point is making a bit more than you want to use,not mainstream thinking,gota make it big to make rich people richer.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +1

      Bill put a lot of thought into this setup. Turned out well for a hobby.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety

      Bill is happy with 500 watts. Working well for him.

  • @FoodForestBrad
    @FoodForestBrad Před 6 měsíci

    I love the high tech vortex destroyer 🤣

  • @troyball6623
    @troyball6623 Před rokem

    Great idea mate, excellent job.

  • @daneduttry8957
    @daneduttry8957 Před 3 lety +59

    Take the water falling over the edge and fill the line up with a valve close to the end. When you open it it will suck the water up and over thus it will self prime without anything.
    I built mine to be automatic with check valves.

    • @peterboil4064
      @peterboil4064 Před 3 lety +3

      awesome comment

    • @texasfossilguy
      @texasfossilguy Před 3 lety

      itd be better to design the dam this way to begin with with a channel on a ledge to prime the pump.

    • @lorditsprobingtime6668
      @lorditsprobingtime6668 Před 3 lety

      @Dane Duttry Not knocking your suggestion at all and have never built a hydro setup at all so this is only a suggestion that may be useless for reasons I don't know of but: I was thinking after reading your suggestion of an idea. How do you think it would go if he had something like a large ball valve at the bottom to hold the water till you're ready to run it, up above but just below the dam runover he had a funnel mounted in a section of the water ran into normally over beside his pipe and it fed into it. The ball valve closed the water would soon fill up to that point just below the edge and if you had a floating ball that fairly cleanly sealed off the funnel when you opened the ball valve and things started sucking (in the best way) then you'd have only the ball valve to open to get the system running.
      I know it wouldn't make a huge difference but, every little bit easier it is to operate and control has got to be a help. Anyhow, like I said, I have no experience, you do so I'm just throwing an idea at someone who has experience with this sort of thing to see what you think, useful or just a dumb idea that may even cause more problems than it's worth?

    • @malcolmrayner1613
      @malcolmrayner1613 Před 3 lety

      I pumped water a long way to a tank i would trap all the water in the pipe to prime the pump

    • @mrgoldendeel
      @mrgoldendeel Před 2 lety

      Another thought, could you install another gate valve before the turbine to control the rate of intake so the suction doesn't drain the pond below the dam and ultimately the intake? I realize this would potentially slow the turbine but then he wouldn't have to worry about draining the pond down too quickly.

  • @TheWizardGamez
    @TheWizardGamez Před 3 lety +107

    beavers watching this like: ha, 530 watts, how about 40 kilowatts (laughs in maple syrup)

    • @viatori5566
      @viatori5566 Před 3 lety +9

      It was the laughs in maple syrup for me 😂

    • @chazzdimitriadis9064
      @chazzdimitriadis9064 Před 3 lety +11

      @@viatori5566 it was the 40 kilowatts for me. Imagine, a beaver making electricity but not being able to do anything with it. Stooopid beaver.

    • @danalex2991
      @danalex2991 Před 3 lety +7

      Could you please explain the joke? I didn't understand it

    • @MmeHyraelle
      @MmeHyraelle Před 3 lety +1

      Aluminium refineries would like to disagree.

    • @ryarbrough1195
      @ryarbrough1195 Před 3 lety

      Beavers are underrated.

  • @antonaleksandrov
    @antonaleksandrov Před 2 lety

    Amazing technology utilizing laws of nature! I would love to live utilizing what's around us. Amazing!

  • @KauaiMoney808
    @KauaiMoney808 Před 3 lety

    Wow this guy is the man! What a set up and great vortex destroyer!

  • @johngacusan2777
    @johngacusan2777 Před 3 lety +42

    This is one of my dreams. A house near a peaceful river or creek and has unlimited renewable energy attached to it. I wish I have knowledge to reproduce this kind of tech and assembly with respect to the owner of the video.
    More power to you both, sirs

    • @jeffburnham6611
      @jeffburnham6611 Před 2 lety +1

      Ideal for stream or creek, not so ideal for a run off pond. Much depends on rainfall.

    • @Mick_A_Knuckle
      @Mick_A_Knuckle Před 2 lety +3

      You're not going to power a whole lot of things with only 500 watts.

    • @MrJthf9
      @MrJthf9 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Mick_A_Knuckle you wont power shit with 500 watts. maybe a big fan or something

    • @M70ACARRY
      @M70ACARRY Před 2 lety

      @@Mick_A_Knuckle it's better than nothing.

    • @cypresspuz
      @cypresspuz Před 2 lety +1

      @@Mick_A_Knuckle 500 is not zero

  • @CharlesGriswold
    @CharlesGriswold Před 2 lety +35

    When I was a kid, we had a generator system that fed power into our house backward through an electrical outlet. Even then I knew that was freakin' janky as hell.

    • @Moletrouser
      @Moletrouser Před 2 lety +4

      He had an electrician sign off on a plug-to-plug extension? Prongs at 120V when someone accidentally unplugs it? I think not.

    • @CharlesGriswold
      @CharlesGriswold Před 2 lety +5

      @@Moletrouser What electrician? This was a shack out in the woods powered by a generator. I would be surprised if an electrician had ever set foot in that place.

    • @timhawes6245
      @timhawes6245 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Moletrouser IKR - also running 3-phase over 2-phase plus ground cable is pretty, err, shonky. Would've expected the flex cable to be run in conduit as well. Love the turbine idea, however.

  • @afrog2666
    @afrog2666 Před 2 lety

    I like that vortex destroyer, nice and simple, easily replaceable and cheap :)

  • @kr3wjones45
    @kr3wjones45 Před rokem

    I think you should add a guard to prevent birds from landing on it and getting injured. Very cool system!

  • @ratheonhudson3311
    @ratheonhudson3311 Před 3 lety +19

    I've bought an array of second hand solar panels and I spent 500$ for the set of 10x 190w 44v panels and I picked up 2x 250w 48v panels for free. Overall I have an off grid set up for around AUD$750 producing 1.57kw 21amps 57volts.
    Your video inspired me to tinker with it some more.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Před 3 lety +2

      Very nice! I have a solar panel installed series coming up soon!

    • @fajoopsa
      @fajoopsa Před 3 lety +1

      The water still flows at night though.

  • @Borminator
    @Borminator Před 3 lety +25

    Oh my God, this is John Locke!

    • @fabiangualacovargas445
      @fabiangualacovargas445 Před 3 lety

      Jajajaj lo mismo iba a comentar :'v lo siento si no te respondo en ingles saludo

    • @Borminator
      @Borminator Před 3 lety

      @@fabiangualacovargas445 Todo está bien, el traductor de Google te ayudará.

    • @alanmunce7824
      @alanmunce7824 Před 3 lety +1

      He’s not Lost anymore. 😉

  • @wazandrew8202
    @wazandrew8202 Před 2 lety

    i loved this video, you live in such a beautiful place.

  • @bellenvideo5629
    @bellenvideo5629 Před 2 lety

    Real engineering so cool🙏, now I need to get me a backyard first 🙌

  • @inachu
    @inachu Před 3 lety +13

    3:06 or at the end of the green pipe cover it up and then fill by hand some water until the green pipe is filled with water then once filled cover the hole then open the end of the green pipe
    then suction will start and there ya go!

    • @AJH8713
      @AJH8713 Před 3 lety +1

      They did say the only other way to get it going would be to fill the pipe with water before he got out his handy dandy shop-vac lol

    • @gaycha6589
      @gaycha6589 Před 3 lety

      Priming a siphon basically

  • @MetrologyEngineer
    @MetrologyEngineer Před 3 lety +8

    Only a true engineer would talk about head... :)

  • @craigwilson8255
    @craigwilson8255 Před 2 lety

    That's awesome! Been looking for land with a creek, but those pieces of land are far and few between, and usually expensive.

  • @joshuaash2494
    @joshuaash2494 Před 2 lety

    Super cool project!

  • @djblackarrow
    @djblackarrow Před 3 lety +30

    I think instead of using the shop-vac you can put a Ball Valve near to the Outlet and move your Shop-Vac Hose connection to a higher point under the turbine to use it as a filler pipe. To start the Syphon for the first time, you have to close the lower valve, open the upper one and fill the Pipe with Water until it overflows from the filler pipe. Then close the upper valve and open the lower one. At this point you can turn the Syphon off and on whenever you want, only by turning the lower valve.

    • @propellerhead2000
      @propellerhead2000 Před 3 lety +2

      I think that lower valve could be fitted with an actuator controlled by a simple Arduino device which could be used to monitor pond level and throttle water flow to ensure the pond stays full to the brink of spillover. Or at least not vacuuming the pond dry.

    • @The2x4
      @The2x4 Před 3 lety +5

      He mentioned that idea as the "regular way" which is inconvenient. The shop vac was a great way to very quickly start it up without getting yourself wet.

    • @kkarllwt
      @kkarllwt Před 3 lety +1

      Price out a 6 inch ball valve.

    • @propellerhead2000
      @propellerhead2000 Před 3 lety

      @@kkarllwt Where I'm sitting a 6 inch PVC ball valve costs $113.

  • @CATownsend777
    @CATownsend777 Před 2 lety +4

    Get a battery system hooked up and store that energy already created.
    Would be a good backup system for a short time if the system were to go down.

  • @crazypoki
    @crazypoki Před 2 lety

    I sincerely laughed at the vortex destroyer ;D

  • @rookiemvp2008
    @rookiemvp2008 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video! I just took a small micro-grid seminar through my college (Arizona State). Love to learn more about how to set my own microgrid up!

  • @emmepiemme
    @emmepiemme Před 3 lety +23

    Neat installation, simple and effective: Simplicity is a good key to get long mtbf and lifetime in mini hydro plant. Are there some kind of ballast resitor to prevent turbine overrun in no-load or low load condition ? (I'm not native english, pls excuse my poor language skill)

    • @KevinSmith-ys3mh
      @KevinSmith-ys3mh Před 3 lety

      What you are proposing is a "Dump load" control. I used to follow an Electrical Engineer blogger in Chile who built a much higher output dual micro-turbine system in the Andes mountains for his off grid homestead. He used his electric water heater to absorb excess power and control generator speed & voltage to close tolerances, and allow time for the remote valves to close down. He seemed quite happy with it!

  • @paulbaker9687
    @paulbaker9687 Před 3 lety +11

    I wonder if he could use some sort of ballcock system that slows the intake down using some sort of 'cover/mesh' that slides over the intake if the level of the pond drops too much.

    • @kletusbobby7029
      @kletusbobby7029 Před 3 lety +2

      Yes I have a valve set like you describe, it works well.

    • @paulmaydaynight9925
      @paulmaydaynight9925 Před 3 lety

      thats one way to do it after the fact oc, but if you are going to the trouble of "making a lake"/storage of potential energy then its probably wise to give some time and effort to re/move some extra dirt to make simple upstream canal gates in a reduced width of the lake you make to simply limit water flow as you wish later,
      and a simple super deep slopping trench in the direction of flow your trying to make, and put a few different sized plugged up pipes in there to use later (laminar flow surface flow vortex drain to pull in your inital tromp air.
      (a few long range gigabit fibre optic cables because you know you will eventually want better than wireless lan (remote cams etc) at both ends sometime lol etc) ,before you fill the lake.

    • @LevAgency
      @LevAgency Před 3 lety +3

      Or HE could just leave the "VACUUM" valve open - that would reduce the draw on the intake...

  • @tomcurran1538
    @tomcurran1538 Před 2 lety

    I'm over near Mayberry. Great job.

  • @campbellsoup27
    @campbellsoup27 Před 2 lety

    Haha I install and repair rectifers as part of my trade, nice to see an applicable home use for one. Rectifier just flips the waves of alternating current to direct current using diodes.