I'm astounded at the number of people who've said the same thing..."yeah it runs on idle, but won't run on the road...derp" etc...have you NEVER gone through the process of figuring something complicated out... for yourself? In other words, experimenting to find your way to the next step, the best path for success? Obviously he knows he can't drive it connected to a friggin hose! This was clearly just the step of seeing IF he could do it successfully, on a cheap/worthless car, for himself. He didn't have to post this clip. At least he is TRYING to figure it out, and is most likely much further along, has a better understanding than 98% of the people criticising him. So, to the guy who posted this, THANK YOU for sharing your experiment with us! I admire your dedication in putting hands on, and making it work! And to all those who have lots to say on the subject, instead of telling others what to do, or more accurately what NOT to do, how about SHOW US how YOU have managed to do it better! At least this dude SHOWED YOU it's possible to do. Those who can do, DO. 🤷🏻♂️ Those who can't...well it seems they spend the majority of their time in the comment section of youtube. 😂😂😂
So as a mechanic what I see, the metal can at the throttle body is a restrictor for oxygen, because of the air to fuel ratio is different then gasoline, he controls the throttle by opening the valve in the car injecting more fuel, he does not use the gas pedal etc, I don't know if the hydrogen generator is feeding pure hydrogen or a mix o2 and hydrogen though. This would work perfect for a generator at a set rpm, when you get the mixture dialed in it would be sweet. The way it is setup would not be recommended for a car, because of varying loads and rpms, you would need a way of injecting the hydrogen gas at the fuel injector locations and a ecu to manage it. that way it would run like its on gasoline.
Wouldn't you just need a valve that could open based on the rpm of the engine. The valve he opens on the passenger seat adjusts the HHO amount going into the engine. Operate that valve electronically based on engine RPM should do it.
Storing HHO (2 parts Hydrogen & 1 part Oxygen) high pressure gas in a tank in a car is superdangerous, because the gas mixture is unstable & can self ignite!!! A method that would work fine is using minimum 95% pure Hydrogen & use the high pressure fuel system/ injectors, because these will open longer or shorter to regulate rpm. A fuel injected engine combined with spark plugs is the best system, with minimal adjustments. Gasoline ignites in air fuel ratio idealy around 1/14. Hydrogen has a wider range 1/180 & is also more energycompact. (2,5x more energy for the same amount of gasoline) air gets delivered trough air intake valves. Hydrogen gets mixed with oxygen in the combustion chamber, where the explosive gas mixture is safe to ignite. NEVER use HHO gas to try this. If you wanna try this, use minimum 95% pure Hydrogen.
Что будет в случае сохранения експеримента (ООН при закрытом впускном колекторе) с увеличеной степенью сжатия (уменьшения камеры сгорания) до максимально (минимально) возможной конструктивно?
Супер. Осталось только поместить установку в багажник,где она займёт весь полезный объём + к этому конвертер 12/220 как мин. на 3 кВт. Всё это проходили ещё в конце 70-х в СССР, а в конце 90-х на Вольво, но не прижилось,наверное из-за громоздкости конструкции, к тому же и АКБ дополнительный ставить надо повышенной ёмкости. Электролизёры такого типа можно использовать разве что в быту, или как вариант закачивать сепарированный газ под высоким давлением в баллон. Нужен абсолютно иной способ получения водорода,типа электро- плазменного или дугового при постоянном токе низкого напряжения(12В). Т.е нужен мини реактор. Но всё это очень не безопасно, хотя и возможно.
If you are splitting water how are you separating out the oxygen to get the pure hydrogen (only) into the combustion chamber ? An engine already takes in atmospheric oxygen on it's own when it has a balanced fuel mixture ratio.
That electrolysizer machine is using much power. 14 Amps X 207 volts = 3000 Watts of electricity, and at 12 volt car alternator, you would draw 241 Amps. That would burn out your alternator. That will burn out 4 alternators. The only way to make this work is to generate gas in the home and pump into a pressurized tank in the car. But it may be more expensive than petrol using 3000 Watts. You need a better electrolyzer. You need to study the work of Stanley Meyer whos elecectrolosizer used step charging and capacitive resonance in water dielectric. He did not need 3000 Watts of power. He had the whole system installed on the vehicle and generating HHO on demand using much lower wattage from 1 alternator only.
However ......., it’s a step in the right direction & if you dig a little deeper you will find that the amp draw can be significantly reduced with some basic physics & some very cheap modifications ... IE: more efficient electrolyser -and/or- the electrolyte mixture -and/or- increase the temperature of the electrolyte -and/or- ect ...
@@andrewcoopes4069 The amp draw is actually reduced by making the electrolysis less efficient, by reducing electrode surface area, less electrolyte, etc
This would be good while using cruise control but how would you be able to control the hydrogen output on demand to be able to accelerate under a load without having a storage tank..?
Do you have a one way valve in the output line to prevent exploding when using the torch tip? Might be a favorable investment unless the water prevents it from burning?
Ну все, осталось поставить газовые форсунки, сделать врезки ближе к штатным форсункам и приделать ещё один дроссель, который будет регулировать разряжение во впуске автоматически. Также надо будет обязательно ставить датчик температуры на выпуске и мудрить систему рециркуляции отработанных газов, иначе поршни поплавятся от перегрева.
At least you didn't type 'hho forbids the third laws of thermodynamics" lol those "science experts" with their bullsh*t opinions driven by money. I've tested this myself, hho does powers engine, but you need a lot of battery power for a car but it can be done. However, I think the 1200 miles per gallon steam powered car which Jay Leno showed here in CZcams is better. He downplay it a lot saying it's complicated 😂 the guy just didn't want to bump heads with the oil tycoons. Steam powered car is so good and powerful it doesn't need Transmission. Watch the Jay Leno garage
@@BOREDANDWELLBORED I KNOW! HE DIDNT SAY ONCE HOW MANY MPG HE GOT. Do you know how much a doble would run on the gallon of kerosene? I bet you could completely do away with a burner too, and make an electric flash boiler powered by alternator and battery.
would not be able to do with derv or can you?, thinking of getting a geni to run my house electric instead of being on the grid, this can be done, that is a question?
Замечательно.Можно отапливать гараж . В Виннице производят водородные тепловые пушки 750 баксов у нас они предлагались по 1500 S.Очень интересовали ,только купить не смог. Живу в Сибири отапливаю гараж : дрова ,уголь, солярка.Один год отапливал двигателем от жигулей ,использовал бензин АИ 80 .Думаю применение водорода нужно искать в системах отопления или тепловых пушках непрямого(прямого) нагрева.
Водородная пушка говорите? Это чистой воды лохотрон... Меня очень удивили такие цифры как: Потребляемая мощность - 3,5 кВт. При этом мощность нагрева 10 кВт. Ребята забыли о законе сохранения энергии. Так же мне очень понравилась вот эта фраза: 1 куб.м/ч оксигидрогена (эквивалентно 2,3 куб.м природного газа). Нужно быть полным идиотом что бы написать это, или поверить в это. В качестве ЛИКБЕЗ приведу примеры удельной теплоты сгорания метана и водорода: Энергетическая ценность одного кубометра водорода не более 10 МДж/м3, а энергетическая ценность одного кубометра метана (природного газа) 27 МДж/м3. Кому будет интересно узнать об этом более подробно, читайте здесь: auto-minsk.maxbb.ru/topic397.html
Скайтек Скайтек Не совсем так! При сжигании одного кубометра оксигидрогена удельная теплота сгорания будет меньше чем удельная теплота сгорания одного кубометра чистого водорода. УТС одного литра оксигидрогена составляет 6,6 МДж = 1,8 кВт., а УТС одного кубометра чистого водорода составляет 10 МДж = 2.7 кВт. Если Вы владеете не земными физическими данными, поделитесь, очень интересно было бы с ними ознакомиться...
The HHO machine uses 15A 207volts, you can get that kind of power from hybrid cars like Prius. I will suggest you set up the HHO machine in a hybrid car that has a battery bank up to the required dc voltage and try to run it.
What?? How are you going to tap into hybrid battery no just 4 or 5 batteries in a series should be enough to produce enough H2 to power a 4 cylinder engine
Good work 👍, so engine is running. But you produce enough hho with small generator? I wanted to put 200amp alternator in my car, to test something like that.
Very cool. You might not be able to actually drive with the HHO alone, but it shows that you will be saving gas with the right configuration/ratio of gas to HHO. Thanks for posting.
como responde en subida y con peso? cada cuanto tiempo se hace el mantenimiento y cual es su costo? se podria hacer híbrido poniendole 1 o 2 motores eléctricos en cualquiera d los ejes y q el motor H2O ALIMENTE d corriente al motor electrico? Como se comporta el motor H2O en clímax extremos en -20° C o + 50° C
то есть регулируемые обороты двигателя педалью газа от 2000 оборотов до 5000 оборотов, как на старте гоночная машина ревет оборотами. То есть можно ли регулировать педалью газа? Спасибо.
большое СПАСИБО за видео - поздравляю ! -у японцев эл. двигатель под капотом жрёт 55 кВт от аккумуляторов так что вы даже по примерным прикидкам 3 кВт * 4(60 л.)=12 кВт вы в огромном выигрыше !!! -продолжайте , буду рад увидеть результат и ваше мнение.
Okay, I'm convinced. But confused with the white canister. Is it air restriction? How much pressure does it need to run? Could the system be condensed and run off the engine vacuum? Initially start the engine with gasoline, then have a toggle switch for the fuel pump. Just a thought, your video has got me thinking. Thank you.
Да, к сожалению пока это так. Если только не использовать накопление электроэнергии в аккумуляторные батареи при помощи альтернативных источников, таких как ветрогенератор, солнечные панели и другого аналогичного...
мася н Бензогенератор способный обеспечить питание для нагрузи 3 кВт, потребляет 1,4 литра бензина в час. Автомобиль на моем видео работает на холостом ходу, используя водород, который производится электролизером при нагрузке в 3 кВт. Но ели бы автомобиль работал на холостом ходу с использованием бензина, он потреблял бы 0,8 литра в час. То есть ты предлагаешь тратить 1,4 литра бензина вместо 0,8 литра? Где экономическая логика?
After all, this is a four-stroke engine, the piston group is lubricated forcibly by an oil pump. But this technology cannot be used in two-stroke engines, since the pistons of such maotrs are lubricated with oil, which is added to gasoline.
Could have an augmentary/auxillary fuel (compressed hydrogen, methane or propane, or gasoline) that uses atmospheric oxygen for situations when the HHO generating electrolyziser can't keep up with demand (such as stop-and-go driving..…... there would be a lag-time). There's be lots of electronic controls for valves, as well as check valves for safety.
Very nice experiment! Did you make any adjustments in the meantime? I'm thinking of converting a car to run on Hydrogen too, but I want to use the injectors and a high pressure Hydrogen cilinder (120 bar) instead. Also add a few components, like a flow controller, injector controller and spark timing controller. What are your thoughts?
120 bar is a very low and safe pressure for hydrogen. Toyota Mirai's hydrogen fuel tank is refueled at a pressure of 750 bar. And this is not the limit.
Yes, what it does not say is the station is stationary and is powered by electricity, so it is the kilometer hose and in any case that the unit had in the car to accelerate, the valve must be opened and closed, the throttle does not work.
Hydrogen engine is meant to run with the open throttle like a diesel engine. So what you did is blocked of Air supply actually make an intake so small that amount oh h2o is enough to power the engine on low revs. With your valve you regulating amount of h2o and thus why you reving up the engine. However to make that work more efficiently you would have to program the car computer and adjust the timing to 0 degree as h2o has instant burn rate and you don't need to advance timing. However you need much higher gas rate if you want to drive the car. At the moment you have somewhat around 3000w of intake to your cell. Now if you calculate output power of big 150A alternator that you can attach to your car. And at 4500 revs you can produce around 2000w @ 13.5v so you are nowhere near your input power and I saw that rev meter only goes up to around 1100 revs so your electricity production would be at quarter of the ratted alternator power output. Now if you fully open the blocked air intake port, that engine wouldn't run on the amount of gas that you are able to supply.
Why should there be? Me and a friend of mine once turbocharged an e36 318i BMW on a Budget and used a piggyback to drive the injectors. The standard ECU was just used for spark, the injectors were disconnected. No check engine light till this day.
Ну теперь надо этот газогенератор в машину запихать, пару аккумуляторов на 200AH , преобразователь напряжения на 220вольт и попробовать прокатиться хотя бы на 1000 оборотах посмотреть тащит или нет а так вообще норм получается типа гибрида, с такими ценами на бензин аккумуляторы могут быстро окупиться. Автору респект!!!!
well, you got the first part, run the generator in the trunk on an inverter and see if it will take throttle... chances are it won't because that takes more LPM per minute than the generator will produce.... use a safety bubblier with a pop off top cars back fire at the strangest times... it's always good to double up on safety ! Bob.....
Спасибо... здорово, а покажите пожалуйста видео когда вы даете полный газ то есть добавляете обороты двигателя до 3000 оборотов как ведет себя двигатель? Заранее спасибо.
тут добавить обороты невозможно, электролизер выдает недостаточно газа для работы двигателя свыше 1200 оборотов. Так как двигатель работает практически только на водороде с минимальным соотношением с воздухом. для того чтобы двигатель развил более оборотов, ему нужно еще пару таких установок.
Нет, это не так. Вырабатываемого количества гремучего газа, более чем достаточно для полноценной работы этого двигателя, но для качественной работы, необходимо кардинально изменить конструкцию двигателя, и систему газораспределения в частности. Следите за обновлением на моем канале и Вы увидите новое видео, где происходит демонстрация полноценной работы ДВС, на гремучем газе.
может я там чего затупил на счет сохранения энергии но если кто грамотный скажите как я понял с 3 киловат в час электричества получается 15 литров в минуту, гремучего газа в час будет 15*60=900 литров газа hho, при сгорании 900 литров в час гремучего газа выделется как я понял 69 калорий * 900литров = 62 100 калорий тепла в час от 3 киловат электричества а вот вопрос сколько калорий выделет 3 киловатный электрический нагреватель
Неплохо было бы поставить в машину емкость с водородом, и вырабатывать электроэнергию с помощью топливных элементов. Все это возможно, но цена предлагаемых в данный момент на рынке топливных элементов заоблачна. Думали ли вы в этом направлении?
Мы повторили скопировали Ионизатор чтобы обеспечить работу двигателя должен потреблять в среднем 10 ампер на част выходит что аккумулятор не вытащит. где ошибка подскажите . друганы.
Install a relay to start hho system on accessories to allow for hho gas to build up and then ignite on ignition. I'm very interested in where the hho gas is fed into and also what your cell consists of. Thanks.
Watch the video. It was using a huge factory built 3.1kW HHO generator up in the garage. It was being fed into the top of the intake manifold on the engine. I wouldn't really consider this a drivable system. It probably couldn't easily be made into one either. 3100 watts is a lot of power loss before anything even made it past the flywheel. But as a stationary power plant, this looks feasible. It was more convenient to leave the engine in the car for this demo/test bed setup.
@@SEVERS72 Stanley Mayer have prove the way is done research on his video there is a lot of information how he did this and it was safe is all on CZcams THE CAR RUNS IN WATER RESEARCH ABOUT THIS 6.00 $ A GALLON OF GAS IS UNJUSTIFIED SEE ALL HIS VIDEOS THIS WAS THE REASON HE INVENTED RESEARCH !!!
That's cool but please say something in the video's, as some people (don't know what the disconnected cables and hoses are), so are unsure what you have done.
That's absolutely correct mate. That $10,000 equipment producing 2,000L/min HHO is going to ruin the Walls of that Cylinders & Piston tops & Valves in less than a month - then that car will become an antique piece in loving memory of so & so............
It's only idle on life support. Stage one. Stage Two we need to see it driving down the country road at 110kmh, day from Mingenew to Geraldton WA or Perth WA, a 5 hour test trip
We all know that an engine can run on HHO. The problem is how are you going to produce enough gas inside the vehicle( Produce on demand) Where you powering that HHO plant from the mains?
крутой генератор, наверно можно использовать его для обогрева дома. А подмешивать в топливную смесь не пробовали? Ведь работа двигателя только на HHO снизит его ресурс.
then not having corrected the spark plug timing means that the HH, as it enters at a point distant from the combustion chamber, loses octane or power, at an ideal point to not have to correct the spark. Let us remember that a racing engine consumes high octane fuel and there is a need to make this adjustment......@@SEVERS72
Buuuutttt Being distant, large amounts of HH are required, due to the aforementioned. then taking it close to the chamber will require less and modify the spark like any other high power racing engine.. thank you,@SERVER72
Now let's set this up like a diesel locomotive configuration and use the HHO generated to run a generator for an all electric drivetrain and win on all fronts.
Alright as a experiment it’s cool it works. But at idle speed only. Just roughly doing some math in my head converting the volts and amps from your setup to the 12v that cars use... around 300amps! And remember that’s at idle speed. Guess that’s why these aren’t factory made. Most cares make from 50 to 120 amps at cruising speed and less than ½ that at idle. Anyway cool experiment
@Aaron Wolfenbarger I agree totally.. burning hydrogen has a very very big expansion area if burned.. it could very well be used if there is a way to pressurise it enough in car.. like the gas tank but instead of having fuel it would be a hydrolysis device capable of working at 12v and produce enough electric power so as to produce enough hydrogen with constant pressure.. hmm.. sounds easy.. it makes me think that all these companies are not trying something like that because fuel companies will suffer damage.. yeah.. sounds plausible
I'm astounded at the number of people who've said the same thing..."yeah it runs on idle, but won't run on the road...derp" etc...have you NEVER gone through the process of figuring something complicated out... for yourself? In other words, experimenting to find your way to the next step, the best path for success? Obviously he knows he can't drive it connected to a friggin hose! This was clearly just the step of seeing IF he could do it successfully, on a cheap/worthless car, for himself. He didn't have to post this clip. At least he is TRYING to figure it out, and is most likely much further along, has a better understanding than 98% of the people criticising him. So, to the guy who posted this, THANK YOU for sharing your experiment with us! I admire your dedication in putting hands on, and making it work! And to all those who have lots to say on the subject, instead of telling others what to do, or more accurately what NOT to do, how about SHOW US how YOU have managed to do it better! At least this dude SHOWED YOU it's possible to do. Those who can do, DO. 🤷🏻♂️ Those who can't...well it seems they spend the majority of their time in the comment section of youtube. 😂😂😂
So as a mechanic what I see, the metal can at the throttle body is a restrictor for oxygen, because of the air to fuel ratio is different then gasoline, he controls the throttle by opening the valve in the car injecting more fuel, he does not use the gas pedal etc, I don't know if the hydrogen generator is feeding pure hydrogen or a mix o2 and hydrogen though. This would work perfect for a generator at a set rpm, when you get the mixture dialed in it would be sweet. The way it is setup would not be recommended for a car, because of varying loads and rpms, you would need a way of injecting the hydrogen gas at the fuel injector locations and a ecu to manage it. that way it would run like its on gasoline.
Yep
he said HHO, which is a premix of hydrogen and oxygen.
Wouldn't you just need a valve that could open based on the rpm of the engine. The valve he opens on the passenger seat adjusts the HHO amount going into the engine. Operate that valve electronically based on engine RPM should do it.
Storing HHO (2 parts Hydrogen & 1 part Oxygen) high pressure gas in a tank in a car is superdangerous, because the gas mixture is unstable & can self ignite!!! A method that would work fine is using minimum 95% pure Hydrogen & use the high pressure fuel system/ injectors, because these will open longer or shorter to regulate rpm. A fuel injected engine combined with spark plugs is the best system, with minimal adjustments. Gasoline ignites in air fuel ratio idealy around 1/14. Hydrogen has a wider range 1/180 & is also more energycompact. (2,5x more energy for the same amount of gasoline) air gets delivered trough air intake valves. Hydrogen gets mixed with oxygen in the combustion chamber, where the explosive gas mixture is safe to ignite. NEVER use HHO gas to try this. If you wanna try this, use minimum 95% pure Hydrogen.
Whats ecu plz ? Thanks
Nobody is doubting cars can run on hho but getting it in the car and on demand system is what others have done is the goal.
Что будет в случае сохранения експеримента (ООН при закрытом впускном колекторе) с увеличеной степенью сжатия (уменьшения камеры сгорания) до максимально (минимально) возможной конструктивно?
Супер. Осталось только поместить установку в багажник,где она займёт весь полезный объём + к этому конвертер 12/220 как мин. на 3 кВт. Всё это проходили ещё в конце 70-х в СССР, а в конце 90-х на Вольво, но не прижилось,наверное из-за громоздкости конструкции, к тому же и АКБ дополнительный ставить надо повышенной ёмкости. Электролизёры такого типа можно использовать разве что в быту, или как вариант закачивать сепарированный газ под высоким давлением в баллон. Нужен абсолютно иной способ получения водорода,типа электро- плазменного или дугового при постоянном токе низкого напряжения(12В). Т.е нужен мини реактор. Но всё это очень не безопасно, хотя и возможно.
+Ivan Ka держать водоворот в баллоне и пускать его в двигатель....
If you are splitting water how are you separating out the oxygen to get the pure hydrogen (only) into the combustion chamber ? An engine already takes in atmospheric oxygen on it's own when it has a balanced fuel mixture ratio.
That electrolysizer machine is using much power. 14 Amps X 207 volts = 3000 Watts of electricity, and at 12 volt car alternator, you would draw 241 Amps. That would burn out your alternator. That will burn out 4 alternators. The only way to make this work is to generate gas in the home and pump into a pressurized tank in the car. But it may be more expensive than petrol using 3000 Watts. You need a better electrolyzer. You need to study the work of Stanley Meyer whos elecectrolosizer used step charging and capacitive resonance in water dielectric. He did not need 3000 Watts of power. He had the whole system installed on the vehicle and generating HHO on demand using much lower wattage from 1 alternator only.
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Correct. He use 5 volts 2amps to generate hho. I don't know how he did it but he must be very clever to find one way to get to work.
However ......., it’s a step in the right direction & if you dig a little deeper you will find that the amp draw can be significantly reduced with some basic physics & some very cheap modifications ...
IE: more efficient electrolyser -and/or- the electrolyte mixture -and/or- increase the temperature of the electrolyte -and/or- ect ...
@@andrewcoopes4069 The amp draw is actually reduced by making the electrolysis less efficient, by reducing electrode surface area, less electrolyte, etc
Покажите пожалуйста что происходит с выхлопной при работе на ХХ, именно поток с трубы выхлопа, я так понимаю, водяного пара.
So what's size engine and how much lpm needed just to idle?
A mangueira que voce está usando é de que grossura,obrigado.
Я всё понимаю и поддерживаю .Но почему только на холостых и как будет работать на оборотах?
какой обьем мотора?
сколько литров газа Брауна в минуту нужно для роботы двигателя на холостых оборотах и в рабочем режиме под нагрузкой?
felicidades !!! que tamaño de celda utilizas de cuantas placas- cuantas + y cuantas - !!!!
This would be good while using cruise control but how would you be able to control the hydrogen output on demand to be able to accelerate under a load without having a storage tank..?
Do you have a one way valve in the output line to prevent exploding when using the torch tip? Might be a favorable investment unless the water prevents it from burning?
I heard those start fires, can you give us all the reasons ?
@@joannthomases9304 maybe they do but the technology will get better overtime buddy
@@joannthomases9304 samsung phones caught on fire too when they came out they still a big company
Ну все, осталось поставить газовые форсунки, сделать врезки ближе к штатным форсункам и приделать ещё один дроссель, который будет регулировать разряжение во впуске автоматически. Также надо будет обязательно ставить датчик температуры на выпуске и мудрить систему рециркуляции отработанных газов, иначе поршни поплавятся от перегрева.
Do you have to modify the engine timing?
THANK YOU FOR KNOWLEDGE VERY GOOD IDEA THANK YOU AGAIN SIR YOU ARE GREAT
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Soooo with 2.8kW of electricity you can make your car idle? Wow. The 'throttle' knob might take some getting used to in city traffic though.
Check your math. I figured over 3.1kW.
U might need a longer hose if u are driving to the shops.
At least you didn't type 'hho forbids the third laws of thermodynamics" lol those "science experts" with their bullsh*t opinions driven by money. I've tested this myself, hho does powers engine, but you need a lot of battery power for a car but it can be done. However, I think the 1200 miles per gallon steam powered car which Jay Leno showed here in CZcams is better. He downplay it a lot saying it's complicated 😂 the guy just didn't want to bump heads with the oil tycoons. Steam powered car is so good and powerful it doesn't need Transmission. Watch the Jay Leno garage
@@BOREDANDWELLBORED I KNOW! HE DIDNT SAY ONCE HOW MANY MPG HE GOT. Do you know how much a doble would run on the gallon of kerosene? I bet you could completely do away with a burner too, and make an electric flash boiler powered by alternator and battery.
Removed all injector wires, disconnected all fuel lines, fuel tank empty on gauge.
would not be able to do with derv or can you?, thinking of getting a geni to run my house electric instead of being on the grid, this can be done, that is a question?
Замечательно.Можно отапливать гараж . В Виннице производят водородные тепловые пушки 750 баксов у нас они предлагались по 1500 S.Очень интересовали ,только купить не смог. Живу в Сибири отапливаю гараж : дрова ,уголь, солярка.Один год отапливал двигателем от жигулей ,использовал бензин АИ 80 .Думаю применение водорода нужно искать в системах отопления или тепловых пушках непрямого(прямого) нагрева.
Водородная пушка говорите? Это чистой воды лохотрон... Меня очень удивили такие цифры как: Потребляемая мощность - 3,5 кВт. При этом мощность нагрева 10 кВт. Ребята забыли о законе сохранения энергии. Так же мне очень понравилась вот эта фраза: 1 куб.м/ч оксигидрогена (эквивалентно 2,3 куб.м природного газа). Нужно быть полным идиотом что бы написать это, или поверить в это. В качестве ЛИКБЕЗ приведу примеры удельной теплоты сгорания метана и водорода: Энергетическая ценность одного кубометра водорода не более 10 МДж/м3, а энергетическая ценность одного кубометра метана (природного газа) 27 МДж/м3. Кому будет интересно узнать об этом более подробно, читайте здесь: auto-minsk.maxbb.ru/topic397.html
Скайтек Скайтек Не совсем так! При сжигании одного кубометра оксигидрогена удельная теплота сгорания будет меньше чем удельная теплота сгорания одного кубометра чистого водорода. УТС одного литра оксигидрогена составляет 6,6 МДж = 1,8 кВт., а УТС одного кубометра чистого водорода составляет 10 МДж = 2.7 кВт.
Если Вы владеете не земными физическими данными, поделитесь, очень интересно было бы с ними ознакомиться...
The HHO machine uses 15A 207volts, you can get that kind of power from hybrid cars like Prius. I will suggest you set up the HHO machine in a hybrid car that has a battery bank up to the required dc voltage and try to run it.
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What?? How are you going to tap into hybrid battery no just 4 or 5 batteries in a series should be enough to produce enough H2 to power a 4 cylinder engine
Mine only draws .25 amps
Good work 👍, so engine is running. But you produce enough hho with small generator? I wanted to put 200amp alternator in my car, to test something like that.
please try czcams.com/video/YJMOir7ptBg/video.html
Very cool. You might not be able to actually drive with the HHO alone, but it shows that you will be saving gas with the right configuration/ratio of gas to HHO. Thanks for posting.
What voltage is the generator?
looks like fuel injectors are unplugged so only the vacuum sourced hydrogen gets to the cyclinders , tnx for vid ! 🆒👍😃📗
Vacuum sourced?
Hi. Can you show me How do you do this system?
Won't a lean mix burn the valves.....Over heat the engine ?
could you possibly explain your design please and thank you for showing us..
Да вода великая сила !!! Мне очень понравилось хочю попробовать для отопления мастерской водород .
como responde en subida y con peso?
cada cuanto tiempo se hace el mantenimiento y cual es su costo?
se podria hacer híbrido poniendole 1 o 2 motores eléctricos en cualquiera d los ejes y q el motor H2O ALIMENTE d corriente al motor electrico?
Como se comporta el motor H2O en clímax extremos en -20° C o + 50° C
то есть регулируемые обороты двигателя педалью газа от 2000 оборотов до 5000 оборотов, как на старте гоночная машина ревет оборотами. То есть можно ли регулировать педалью газа? Спасибо.
большое СПАСИБО за видео - поздравляю ! -у японцев эл. двигатель под капотом жрёт 55 кВт от аккумуляторов так что вы даже по примерным прикидкам 3 кВт * 4(60 л.)=12 кВт вы в огромном выигрыше !!! -продолжайте , буду рад увидеть результат и ваше мнение.
Okay, I'm convinced. But confused with the white canister. Is it air restriction?
How much pressure does it need to run?
Could the system be condensed and run off the engine vacuum?
Initially start the engine with gasoline, then have a toggle switch for the fuel pump. Just a thought, your video has got me thinking. Thank you.
It is an air restriction
Всегда хочется верить в лучшее. Но на этот раз чудо не случилось, 3 киловата на борту авто это нереально D:
Да, к сожалению пока это так. Если только не использовать накопление электроэнергии в аккумуляторные батареи при помощи альтернативных источников, таких как ветрогенератор, солнечные панели и другого аналогичного...
SEVER -S
безогенератор 3 киловатный вам в помощь
мася н Бензогенератор способный обеспечить питание для нагрузи 3 кВт, потребляет 1,4 литра бензина в час.
Автомобиль на моем видео работает на холостом ходу, используя водород, который производится электролизером при нагрузке в 3 кВт. Но ели бы автомобиль работал на холостом ходу с использованием бензина, он потреблял бы 0,8 литра в час. То есть ты предлагаешь тратить 1,4 литра бензина вместо 0,8 литра? Где экономическая логика?
SEVER -S
я предлогаю запитать бензогенератор ВОДОРОДОМ
How does the engine keep the cylinders lubricated ? What keeps the piston rings from locking up?
After all, this is a four-stroke engine, the piston group is lubricated forcibly by an oil pump. But this technology cannot be used in two-stroke engines, since the pistons of such maotrs are lubricated with oil, which is added to gasoline.
How many LPM is it generating?
Could have an augmentary/auxillary fuel (compressed hydrogen, methane or propane, or gasoline) that uses atmospheric oxygen for situations when the HHO generating electrolyziser can't keep up with demand (such as stop-and-go driving..…... there would be a lag-time).
There's be lots of electronic controls for valves, as well as check valves for safety.
207V 14,4A for engine idling?
Very nice experiment! Did you make any adjustments in the meantime? I'm thinking of converting a car to run on Hydrogen too, but I want to use the injectors and a high pressure Hydrogen cilinder (120 bar) instead. Also add a few components, like a flow controller, injector controller and spark timing controller. What are your thoughts?
@RaPtor452 Same here but I don't think he'll answer. Really wish to get off of gas ASAP!
@Aaron Wolfenbarger -- Go ahead and compress HHO, this world needs a lot less stupid, people on it !!!
@@briankennedy5578 safer to have near pure hydrogen than an hho mix, more volatile with more oxygen present
Are you crazy??? + you think you can store hydrogen at 120 bars??? You can do that if you really want to become a roasted duck yourself.
120 bar is a very low and safe pressure for hydrogen. Toyota Mirai's hydrogen fuel tank is refueled at a pressure of 750 bar. And this is not the limit.
How do you accellerate?
Yes, what it does not say is the station is stationary and is powered by electricity, so it is the kilometer hose and in any case that the unit had in the car to accelerate, the valve must be opened and closed, the throttle does not work.
Hydrogen engine is meant to run with the open throttle like a diesel engine. So what you did is blocked of Air supply actually make an intake so small that amount oh h2o is enough to power the engine on low revs. With your valve you regulating amount of h2o and thus why you reving up the engine. However to make that work more efficiently you would have to program the car computer and adjust the timing to 0 degree as h2o has instant burn rate and you don't need to advance timing. However you need much higher gas rate if you want to drive the car. At the moment you have somewhat around 3000w of intake to your cell. Now if you calculate output power of big 150A alternator that you can attach to your car. And at 4500 revs you can produce around 2000w @ 13.5v so you are nowhere near your input power and I saw that rev meter only goes up to around 1100 revs so your electricity production would be at quarter of the ratted alternator power output. Now if you fully open the blocked air intake port, that engine wouldn't run on the amount of gas that you are able to supply.
With injectors unplugged, why is there no check engine light?
Why should there be? Me and a friend of mine once turbocharged an e36 318i BMW on a Budget and used a piggyback to drive the injectors. The standard ECU was just used for spark, the injectors were disconnected. No check engine light till this day.
Because the ecu not detecting any misfire 🤷♂️
Some car ecus do not get feedback from unplugged injectors, so it does not know they are unplugged...
to get more power . more thaan 1000 rpm need to mix hho with water vapor. I tested it. I drive ford fiesta on it years ago. All best Vuk. HHO TITAN
Where made by this system
Bob Lazar has a converted corvette he drives around in .
Q tanto fuerza y velocidad tiene el motor con el combustible a hidrógeno?
It runs. Can it be driven at say 45mph ?
Ну теперь надо этот газогенератор в машину запихать, пару аккумуляторов на 200AH , преобразователь напряжения на 220вольт и попробовать прокатиться хотя бы на 1000 оборотах посмотреть тащит или нет а так вообще норм получается типа гибрида, с такими ценами на бензин аккумуляторы могут быстро окупиться. Автору респект!!!!
how can i get one? does it have complete instruction for installation? how much pls?
When are you going?
Parabéns amigo
well, you got the first part, run the generator in the trunk on an inverter and see if it will take throttle... chances are it won't
because that takes more LPM per minute than the generator will produce.... use a safety bubblier with a pop off top
cars back fire at the strangest times... it's always good to double up on safety ! Bob.....
R u a hho user?
Si, casi nada y ver de donde sacar todo la electricidad para la celdas, por lo menos 2 o 3 alternadores, pero vas bien 👍
This is awesome
Where can I buy hho gas kits
Did you buy a kit to run your car on hydrogen, or make one yourself?
put that kit inside the boot, connect it to additional car battery
Where did you hook up the HHO hydrogen forward to run on just pure hydrogenI bought two fuel cells they run about 80 amp each how do I connect
Where did you hook up the HHO hydrogen forward to run on just pure hydrogenI bought two fuel cells they run about 80 amp each how do I connect
Спасибо... здорово, а покажите пожалуйста видео когда вы даете полный газ то есть добавляете обороты двигателя до 3000 оборотов как ведет себя двигатель? Заранее спасибо.
тут добавить обороты невозможно, электролизер выдает недостаточно газа для работы двигателя свыше 1200 оборотов. Так как двигатель работает практически только на водороде с минимальным соотношением с воздухом. для того чтобы двигатель развил более оборотов, ему нужно еще пару таких установок.
Нет, это не так. Вырабатываемого количества гремучего газа, более чем достаточно для полноценной работы этого двигателя, но для качественной работы, необходимо кардинально изменить конструкцию двигателя, и систему газораспределения в частности. Следите за обновлением на моем канале и Вы увидите новое видео, где происходит демонстрация полноценной работы ДВС, на гремучем газе.
SEVER -S а если запустить газ через топливную рейку что бы подача шла через форсунки,пробовали нет?
@@SEVERS72 Привет друг, с новым годом, есть новости по теме, что из ххо?
Спасибо брат, большое объятие!
@@SEVERS72 Мы ждём)))
может я там чего затупил на счет сохранения энергии но если кто грамотный скажите как я понял с 3 киловат в час электричества получается 15 литров в минуту, гремучего газа в час будет 15*60=900 литров газа hho, при сгорании 900 литров в час гремучего газа выделется как я понял 69 калорий * 900литров = 62 100 калорий тепла в час от 3 киловат электричества а вот вопрос сколько калорий выделет 3 киловатный электрический нагреватель
Неплохо было бы поставить в машину емкость с водородом, и вырабатывать электроэнергию с помощью топливных элементов. Все это возможно, но цена предлагаемых в данный момент на рынке топливных элементов заоблачна.
Думали ли вы в этом направлении?
Doesn't hydrogen turn into water when it burns .....and if so wouldn't that lead to having water build up in the engine causing oil to turn to sludge?
Is there a power lose? Die you drive that car? Runs it same speed AS whis gas?
It will only have low end.
So its runs but didn't see if it actually revved up or not didn't see what it was like under load either
Мы повторили скопировали Ионизатор чтобы обеспечить работу двигателя должен потреблять в среднем 10 ампер на част выходит что аккумулятор не вытащит. где ошибка подскажите . друганы.
Я не занимаюсь ионизаторами, соответственно, ничего по этому поводу подсказать не могу.
14 amp y 200v ?
Install a relay to start hho system on accessories to allow for hho gas to build up and then ignite on ignition.
I'm very interested in where the hho gas is fed into and also what your cell consists of.
Thanks.
The accumulation of HHO gas for storage is very dangerous!
Watch the video. It was using a huge factory built 3.1kW HHO generator up in the garage. It was being fed into the top of the intake manifold on the engine. I wouldn't really consider this a drivable system. It probably couldn't easily be made into one either. 3100 watts is a lot of power loss before anything even made it past the flywheel. But as a stationary power plant, this looks feasible. It was more convenient to leave the engine in the car for this demo/test bed setup.
@@SEVERS72 Stanley Mayer have prove the way is done research on his video there is a lot of information how he did this and it was safe is all on CZcams THE CAR RUNS IN WATER RESEARCH ABOUT THIS 6.00 $ A GALLON OF GAS IS UNJUSTIFIED SEE ALL HIS VIDEOS THIS WAS THE REASON HE INVENTED RESEARCH !!!
можно как штатное топливо ползоватся с hho МОТОРУ НИЧЕ НЕ СЛУЧИТСЯ
That's cool but please say something in the video's, as some people (don't know what the disconnected cables and hoses are), so are unsure what you have done.
I want information on the results of this project, can you help me
E é ai que eu falo que a produção de hidrogênio e oxigênio tam que ser compatível a aceleração por tanto a aceleração tem que ser eletrônica
Add a hollow metal ball between carb and intake manifold ( works like a bong) atomizes and vaporizes gas doubles gas mileage
Robert Burchell Jr I've thought of that many times. I wonder why it's not used in vehicles to increase gas mileage?
What does a hollow metal ball looks like?
I was expecting to see how much hydrogen was produced at 3 kW and also what the advance timing was.
You got a $10000 piece of equipment running a $100 car
Craig White I would rather test my system on a $100 car than on my vehicle I use for work.
So. Its the point he proven
That's absolutely correct mate. That $10,000 equipment producing 2,000L/min HHO is going to ruin the Walls of that Cylinders & Piston tops & Valves in less than a month - then that car will become an antique piece in loving memory of so & so............
Sam Sam can you get pistons and valves that would work with the hho?
how many amps?
А если поставить газовый карбюратор и накопительный балон для водорода
Todo desconectado......y ninguna luz en el cuadro de avería.....ya....
It's only idle on life support. Stage one. Stage Two we need to see it driving down the country road at 110kmh, day from Mingenew to Geraldton WA or Perth WA, a 5 hour test trip
Bravissimo
That would run an electric generator perfectly
Is this supposed to be a joke 😅
I don’t own an electric generator.
I dont thik you can generate enough to be self sufficiant
it does, there is a video on how to make one
keep up the good work man!! get that thing runnin on the road, Down with Petroleum!!
We all know that an engine can run on HHO. The problem is how are you going to produce enough gas inside the vehicle( Produce on demand) Where you powering that HHO plant from the mains?
крутой генератор, наверно можно использовать его для обогрева дома. А подмешивать в топливную смесь не пробовали? Ведь работа двигателя только на HHO снизит его ресурс.
Can your connect handphone WA?
Nice job.
Did you change the spark plug timing???
I want to imagine that you slowed down time??? please !!!!
No, I didn't change anything. This is the stock version of the engine
then not having corrected the spark plug timing means that the HH, as it enters at a point distant from the combustion chamber, loses octane or power, at an ideal point to not have to correct the spark. Let us remember that a racing engine consumes high octane fuel and there is a need to make this adjustment......@@SEVERS72
Buuuutttt
Being distant, large amounts of HH are required, due to the aforementioned. then taking it close to the chamber will require less and modify the spark like any other high power racing engine.. thank you,@SERVER72
Why can’t he accelerate under HHO - is there not enough gas production to run the motor above idle?
Yes, that right
Завораживает ....
But can you rev the engine?
When running on 100% Hydrogen is it necessary to change the spark advance timing ?
Not necessary but it will help a lot.
The combustion is momentaius so yes, big difference to combined fuel and gas.
Doesn't the engine get too hot with hydrogen??
what is use explain please
Now let's set this up like a diesel locomotive configuration and use the HHO generated to run a generator for an all electric drivetrain and win on all fronts.
Maravilla
Alright as a experiment it’s cool it works. But at idle speed only. Just roughly doing some math in my head converting the volts and amps from your setup to the 12v that cars use... around 300amps! And remember that’s at idle speed. Guess that’s why these aren’t factory made. Most cares make from 50 to 120 amps at cruising speed and less than ½ that at idle. Anyway cool experiment
@Aaron Wolfenbarger I agree totally.. burning hydrogen has a very very big expansion area if burned.. it could very well be used if there is a way to pressurise it enough in car.. like the gas tank but instead of having fuel it would be a hydrolysis device capable of working at 12v and produce enough electric power so as to produce enough hydrogen with constant pressure.. hmm.. sounds easy.. it makes me think that all these companies are not trying something like that because fuel companies will suffer damage.. yeah.. sounds plausible
А не генератор 5 кВ установку можно поставить ? Надеюсь не совсем глупый вопрос спасибо
There needs to be a more efficient hho generator, or alternator... I have not been able to keep a battery charged for a long drive.