The conversation between Yabushige and Toranaga on the cliff in the finale left we with my jaw on the floor. The actors clearly put everything into their characters and the writing was just on another level. Absolutely incredible television.
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The most beautiful part of the finale for me was how many people were affected by Mariko’s death, either by regretting it (Ishido, the Regents, Yabusige), remembering her poetry (Lady Ochiba, Toranaga) remembering her words (Blackthorne, Fuji), or honoring her wishes (Toranaga, the Monk Alvito). Toranaga’s vision (and four-dimensional chess game) was finally realized, but the show never forgot that Mariko was the true heart of the story, transforming everyone by her life and by her death, and destroying Toranaga’s enemies in a way an army never could. She was such an unforgettable character in a such a wonderful show. Thank you, Mariko-dono. You are the beautiful flower that finally fell, but, thankfully, you have been carried by the wind for all of the world to see and cherish, and you will never be forgotten. 🌸🌺🌸
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I have spent a lifetime wondering how Hiroyuki Sanada hasn't been a consistent leading man. The man has the cool, the calm, the presence to absolutely kill whatever he's in.
When Mariko said: _"if I could be a flower in this flow of wind, raging against winter's breath, I'd probably not because they just sit there and swing and shit like for real what can you do as a flower"_ got goosebumbs, one of the best performances of the year
So I've been wondering about this line a lot. Why is it so significant? Flowers can and are appreciated while they are still on their trees, and fruits also fall from trees, and actually gain more value after they have fallen in comparison to flowers. Why do you think it is a significant line?
Yabushige: "How does it feel to shape the wind to your will?" Toranaga: "I don't control the wind. I only study it." There are so many great lines in Shogun!
@@DeptalJexusThat’s not at all what it implies. He doesn’t control it but he studies it and has a great understanding of the winds machinations, so he can put himself in a position to best use it for his own gain.
Im 67 and wondered if you ever saw the miniseries Shogun with Toshiro Mifune? My husband and were engrossed and invested in every episode. It was our first experience with subtitles and felt grateful for an opportunity to learn and experience the Culture, religious, and politics of Japan during the fuedal/Edo period. I havent watched this new series but it sounds as though I really should! Thanks Charlie
You are right. Thanks for pointing out my error. I meant to say "with no subtitles". It was really an emersive experience with another culture and time!
After the final episode I can say that Shogun is a show that I personally consider a masterpiece. From the sets, cinematography, costumes, mannerisms, and the superb writing and acting. Every character had layers to them, and Yabushige is the perfect example of how fantastic the writing and acting was. You could go from hating him, to loving his character, to then hating him again, and then in the final episode you still somehow manage to feel a bit sorry for him after everything he did. ALL of the actors were phenomenal. Fuji's line to Blackthorne on the rowboat, "Let your hands be the last to hold her" was such an incredible call-back to episode 1 when Mariko said the same thing to Fuji in comfort as she was about to lose her child. That moment made me tear up.
Shogun was so amazing. The actors were phenomenal, the story, everything. One of the most high quality productions of anything I’ve ever seen. A masterpiece.
I LOVED the book Shogun, but my one complaint is it’s 1300 pages of “wow not much time left to wrap this up in an epic way”…..then the entire war takes place in one paragraph on the last page. But the show makes it feel so much more intense and rewarding!
@kevinking2380 i never read the book either, but i feel that thematically speaking, the war didn't need to be shown in its entirety. The entire theme of the story is fate, and Toranaga is always destined to win and become the shogun no matter what. Everything played out in Toranaga's favor, so the war became meaningless. Im actually a little glad that this story doesnt need a game of thrones or lord of the rings battle to get the point across. Although, there are a lot of plot holes like whatever happened to Toranaga's brother, why specifically does Lady Ochiba hate Toranaga, how did Blackthorne return home when his fate was against that. Perhaps just one more episode could have resolved this, but im fine.
The first like.... 7 episodes were amazing, the end / conclusion wasn’t ..... underwhelming, but the episodes “felt” different, They weren’t as deep as the others.
Man when I tell you all of the cast is incredible in its acting, every one of them like damn, perfection, and I love how it makes you completely engulfed in the time period with the insane attention to details, best series of this Year
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the ending left me wanting, felt like they ran out of budget for the actual big battle...They're only doing one season, so we'll never see it. Pretty disappointing.
The concept that, " how you die is just as important, if not moreso, as how you live." Is fascinating. One doesn't necessarily trump the other, but the finality of death elevates its importance. Thus, an otherwise unimpressive life lived can be redeemed if the circumstances of your death are of significance. And, in contrast, a dishonorable death can negate a lifetime of service, or leave a blemish on the memory. It's a fascinating culture with a LOT of nuance. The Catholic in the Osaka prison scene alluded to it, "their rules are too opaque." Rules on top of customs, on top of precedent, on top of tradition, on top of expectation. Love this show!
Shōgun was a breath of fresh air in a sea of shyte that is current television. Could've stuck the landing a little better but was a phenomenal show overall. The acting, writing, dialog & commitment to authenticity was simply next level.
The honorable traditions and the use of them for scheming is so fucking cool. Like everyone involved knew that a character would use the grieving period to bolster their forces but they couldn't outright do anything about it, and the person themselves was only moving pieces around in the background to keep up that appearance. I hope there's more to this story, it ended in a really great and conclusive way but I want more.
I've already seen a bunch of people complaining there was no big battle at the end and like, that was never 'really' the point. Toranaga was always playing to win, and the easiest way to win is to win so completely even having to risk fighting a battle would be a pointless waste of time. His plan came together so completely, outplaying his opponents, that the battle was won before it ever needed fighting.
@@Blisterdude123, I was first a bit annoyed by it but the more I dwelled on it I came to the same conclusion and now found the ending satisfying. He had won the war before it even started and there was no need to see it anymore. And also, as it is based on historical events, I did go watch a documentary on the Battle of Sekighara to "finish" the story.
@@SouthernSouthAsian While yes, Toranaga's historical counterpart did engage in a more high-stakes military campaign, for dominion, Shogun's Toranaga was creative-licensed to be a 'touch' more of a schemer and thinker. The emphasis was always more on his mind, and plans, than his battlefield acumen. And honestly, yes, I don't believe it does diminish the narrative consequence. It was a marvelous adaptation.
The acting was incredible all around. The actress that played mariko gave some of the best performance I've seen in years. This show deserves all the glory and rewards. Also yabushige is the goat man was just trynna survive you gotta respect it lmao
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For the first time in my life me and my dad have made an event out of a TV show, every tuesday wed just cut the lights and watch the newest episode of Shogun. Literal masterclass tv show ty Chester for this true meter❤
I’ve been watching Shōgun with my mom and ITS SO GOOD BRO WTFFF the characters, the story, even the fucking intro bro, it’s all beautiful and must watch
I havent started it. My gf and I are watching another show and will start this when we are finish with our current show. I have a question for you...does the series end with an opening for a season 2? I know they said it is a limited series, but did you finish with a feeling it could continue on for more seasons?
@@Mercenary-1914 Shogun is a novel by James Clavell I won’t spoil what happens at the end, but it’s an anti-climactic end and there won’t be a season two as it was only a one novel series, and the show was written just for James but it is definitely worth the watch to get into it’s a masterpiece a Mastercraft beautifully written show.
SPOILERS (DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE SHOW): I believe the death you are speaking about is Hiromatsu killing himself in front of everyone. The significance of that was to gain some time/doubt from the Christians who were there to witness it that would believe that Toranaga is genuinely surrendering. I wasn't sure at first if that actually bought them any time as the Christian leaders seemed to still believe that was a ruse but it definitely led to hesitation in the Japanese Christian leaders with their dealing with Mariko, while she was in Osaka castle. Furthermore, it may have led to the eventual deal with sparing the barbarians life, ultimately I believe it showed the Christian portugese that either Toranaga still had a plan and the Anjin would not be allowed to return to his home country or that if Toranaga was truly surrendering then they would have access to the Anjin after he was gone anyway. The main importance, arguably, also actually came in the form of quelling the other generals of Toranaga who believed that Toranaga was giving up as Hiromatsu kept claiming, "do not give up on our lord even when he seems to be giving up" which prevented the other generals from either acting on their own due to thinking toranaga didn't have a plan or killing themselves due to disobeying (or thinking they were disobeying) Toranaga. I hope that made sense, and I'm still confused about several parts of the show so I'm welcome to more discussion.
Yeah, this was 100% it. They needed everyone (including all on their own side) to believe that the surrender was genuine. So many still had their doubts that Toranaga could just give up, but sacrificing his oldest friend convinced many that the act of surrender was indeed genuine and all hope was lost so the enemy would put their guard down.
One thing people tend to get wrong about Hiromatsu is that they think that he was in on the plan. He wasn't. He just figured it out in the moment and kind of gave a look of recognition to Toranaga. He knew he'd have to give his life in order to make the plan succeed. That is true loyalty.
Funny enough Hiromatsu's death was not neccessary. Toranaga never planned on punishing the generals. And while the death did make the situation more serious, it was never needed. It was a tragic preventable loss
You know the writing is good when you actively WANT to get in the headspace of the characters, and you know you're watching a masterclass actor or actress when you're intentionally scanning their face for any faint muscle twitch to get inside that headspace. That is what makes cinema.
Really thankful for Charlie for getting this show on my radar. Got hooked from ep 1 till the very last but still want something more, I want each ep to be even longer man this show is amazing
I said this before and I’ll say it again. This show was one of those shows that very few managed to do which was that for every Tuesday night, for two months, for 90 minutes, I felt like a fly on the wall. Every episode felt like I was there because the writing and performance was so well executed. I seriously don’t think I’ve seen a show of this quality before..maybe besides Better Call Saul. But still, this show impressed me in more ways than one and I couldn’t be happier with the ending as well as the show itself. 100% worth it. 💯
This show is amazing. I loved every episode and that is rare for me. Top notch production, based on a true story, cool ass samurais and stuff, what more could you want.
I love Yabushige for being the definition of "I play both sides so I always come out on top" also love all the grunts he makes, look up a compilation its great
In recent memory, Shogun has to be among the top (if not already the top) shows I've had the absolute *honor* of watching. The set design, the acting, the cultural values of the past, collision between East and West, it's a marvelous journey all around. Highly recommend.
I also LOVED it. Had fun watching it with my siblings every Tuesday night when we could all get together. It made me cry several times, chortle with glee many more times. The costumes, the acting, the atmosphere was wonderful.
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As an enthusiast of Japanese history, culture and traditions, I was absolutely stunned with the accuracy, the emotions portrayed and breathtaking sets. The writing and acting which is portrayed here by the likes of Anna Sawai and Cosmo Jarvis are truly award worthy. It really does feel like they took the novel and stuck all of its beauty to a show, hence making it truly immortal. The final episode where they were on the cliff took me to a whirl, like it was a sudden realisation of what Toranaga did and how everything folded. The ending is beautifully ambiguous and ended where the book did....I will remember this show for a long long time
This really is one of the best shows I’ve ever seen fr, it never feels like ur on a set and all the actors deserve every bit of praise they get. These were Oscar worthy performances by almost every single person in the show.
Everything about Shogun was spectacular, but one thing I especially loved about it was the dark comedy. The timing on several of the jokes was incredible, and they felt very natural and organic as opposed to “in-your-face” and forced; especially the ones from Blackthorne
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Show was great! Finale was a nice send off, too. Some lovable characters taken away, questions were answered while leaving us wondering how Toranaga’s plan will go.. it really did do a great job with the story. Really enjoyed it, and I’m super excited for the next season!
I love how much this version of Shogun is so different from the 80`s version, but still the same in a weird way. The perspectives are so different. Where the 80`s show is the perspective of Blackthorn and what he does not understand or know, you also do not understand or know and this modern version is the perspective of the people he met. You learn so much more about the personal situations of the people around him. And it is beautiful.
One thing this show does amazingly is build translation and interpretation as well as the subtitles themselves into a crucial aspect. Sometimes the translations are off or purposely interpreted differently from what is actually being said. Also I got some behind the scenes videos of the Shogun set on my channel
Hollywood really needs to take notes on how incredibly attentive this show was to the details, it ties together the equally amazing performances so well.
It wasn't necessary to show the battle. Toranaga won it before it even began. This is the genius of his character. It is a great example of the quote “Every battle is won before it's ever fought.” - Sun Tzu
I don't think it was really a budgetary thing. Shogun was never about battles on the battlefield, but battles of words, and politics, and faith. Toranaga was always playing to win so completely, that any battle he fought was won before it began.
The characters and dialogue carried the show, and it ended with the characters and dialogue. No need for grandiose battle scenes to understand the outcome.
I finished watching the series last night, it's worthy of all the praise it gets. Like charlie said, the writing is incredible. I might only speak for myself, but as a huge fan of the book I found it incredible they could fit so much story in only 10 episodes. I definitely understand the whole plot hole thing, because there are many details that were changed or left out that would make much more sense to the viewer. (Warning: spoilers ahead) Without diving too deep into the lore, a few notable discrepancies that need some clarification is Ochiba's hatred for Toranaga. The series made a veiled allusion to it, telling Ishido what she had to go through to produce an heir. About as veiled of an illusion as being served a cherry flavored carbonated drink and spiting it out when you realize you were served La Croix when you asked for Fanta. Some notable major differences that set the series apart from the book would be some of the deaths seen on screen; the timing, reasoning, details, and consequences. It was quite a surprise and shock to see these differences play out on screen. It does seem odd and I totally understand Charile's stance about it being somewhat plothole-ish. While it might weaken the plot, the foundation the writers built upon stands very strong, and the end product is still very much a masterpiece. I disagree with everyone saying the ending was the same as the book. Both end epically. Both are equally captivating and like everyone who finished the series and read the book, we all want more. That being said, I am a bit biased and will give the book the edge. that extra 5% that would give charlie's score 100%. Which is perfect. But we're all gamers here and for some of you we all know the real complete save file is greater than 100%. James Clavell's Shogun, his magnum opus, is a timeless masterclass in storytelling. I've finished the book many times, purchased it many times, even had a pirated pdf at some point. To those who want more, I would very much recommend reading it. (Just an opinion as a fanboy, I firmly believe it is possible that some of the missed details and the book's epilogue, along with some action perhaps, could be realized as a major motion picture. It wont happen, but one could dream)
Simply making a show about a different region is not diverse national representation, it's just diverse storytelling and representation of foreign countries.
Shogun is god tier but I want to warn everyone who's enjoying it that the show is 100% complete after season 1 based on the source material. Not a single fragment of the source material remains for additional content so if the show does continue for additional seasons we are completely dependent on writers inventing all the new details and dialogue from their own minds as there is nothing for them to transform from page to screen. For me the show is over and i'm happy with it as it exists but if you're expecting more than I just want to fans to know the situation. All the other novels that could be the basis for a potential season 2 in discussion take place hundreds of years after season 1.
Have you read the book? How much of it is left off screen? I feel like the ending could have had more closure. How did Anjin get back home? How long did he stay in Japan?
I wouldnt mind having a Tai Pan remake. And have maybe the Anjins Descendant make a cameo. I remember in the Book (same Author of Shogun) Noble House, had a Descendant cameo.
@@mrandersen6872 The way the show ends is how the book ends like it's pretty one to one sadly u won't get much closure also the scene with Anjin as a old man was more a dream a what if not a time jump
I was devastated when I realized that it was the end, me wishing for more knowing it would end in 10 episodes had me broken but was grateful to see the show adaptation finally release. Looking forward to the spin off series based off the other book eras
At my university we hosted a samurai expo, where two people that ran a NY samurai training program for Japanese/asian actors came down and demonstrated their abilities. The man in charge of that academy said that he was IN this show, as one of the bodyguards in an episode of Shogun, and he was so excited for it to come out. Really excited to see this man I got to practice with on screen!
He gave it a 95%
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I love Yabushige's running gag about needing to write a new will every so-and-so times when he thinks something will happen to him
And his poem was a masterpiece 🤣
He was my favorite comedic actor.
The conversation between Yabushige and Toranaga on the cliff in the finale left we with my jaw on the floor. The actors clearly put everything into their characters and the writing was just on another level. Absolutely incredible television.
Great point. It was one of those scenes where I didn’t even appreciate the acting because I was so sucked in because it was done so well
Am I the only one who still remembers how he's the one who boiled John's crew alive and no one brought it up again? U guys crazy?
I found a comment where the guy doesn’t say, didn’t ask my content is way better then any of this guy’s. Amazing
@@vijaz5559who cares?
@@vijaz5559he only boiled one guy tbf. but also he got mariko killed, i dont think anyone necessarily thinks hes a good guy but hes a great character.
“ I sent a women to do the thing an army could never do”. Could be one of the best closing lines ever!!
Must be a lot of dishwashing
@@guitizzar61793 You have obviously never served in the Army.
@@rooster1012 poor guy was that dishwashing joke too hard for your bum bum?
No, just lazy and boring and done all to hell for 69 years.
@@guitizzar61793is being sex slave for the military better for you? As in past women in army had that role.
Every performance was insane. Every actor played their character to a T, yabushige deserves all the praise
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He was my fave character 😂
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Yabushigi was hilarious. I was rooting for that goofy treacherous fella
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@@PWRGEUTTP cringe
Yabu did what all of us would have done
He had a great conclusion too a smile on his face.
We knew it wasn’t gonna end well for him lol
The most beautiful part of the finale for me was how many people were affected by Mariko’s death, either by regretting it (Ishido, the Regents, Yabusige), remembering her poetry (Lady Ochiba, Toranaga) remembering her words (Blackthorne, Fuji), or honoring her wishes (Toranaga, the Monk Alvito).
Toranaga’s vision (and four-dimensional chess game) was finally realized, but the show never forgot that Mariko was the true heart of the story, transforming everyone by her life and by her death, and destroying Toranaga’s enemies in a way an army never could. She was such an unforgettable character in a such a wonderful show.
Thank you, Mariko-dono. You are the beautiful flower that finally fell, but, thankfully, you have been carried by the wind for all of the world to see and cherish, and you will never be forgotten.
🌸🌺🌸
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Uncle: "You have no honor!"
Takai: "AND YOU ARE A SLAVE TO IT!"
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I have spent a lifetime wondering how Hiroyuki Sanada hasn't been a consistent leading man. The man has the cool, the calm, the presence to absolutely kill whatever he's in.
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My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
Bizarre how concerned you are with some random celeb lol...
@@asimhussain8716bizarre you needed to point that out and laugh out loud to it
"Flowers are only flowers because they fall." -Toda Mariko
“If I could use words, like scattering flowers and falling leaves, what a bonfire my poems would make” 😢
that's Akechi Mariko for you
When Mariko said: _"if I could be a flower in this flow of wind, raging against winter's breath, I'd probably not because they just sit there and swing and shit like for real what can you do as a flower"_ got goosebumbs, one of the best performances of the year
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So I've been wondering about this line a lot. Why is it so significant? Flowers can and are appreciated while they are still on their trees, and fruits also fall from trees, and actually gain more value after they have fallen in comparison to flowers. Why do you think it is a significant line?
Yabushige: "How does it feel to shape the wind to your will?"
Toranaga: "I don't control the wind. I only study it."
There are so many great lines in Shogun!
too many to count...
implying he doesn't control the wind. He is part of it.
@@DeptalJexusThat’s not at all what it implies.
He doesn’t control it but he studies it and has a great understanding of the winds machinations, so he can put himself in a position to best use it for his own gain.
@@italianwaffle5592 Toronaga embodies the concept of Virtù. Endlessly adaptable, composed and calculating. Also a high functioning sociopath.
@@caad5258sociopath? He very clearly feels very strongly about things like hiromatsus or marikos deaths
Im 67 and wondered if you ever saw the miniseries Shogun with Toshiro Mifune? My husband and were engrossed and invested in every episode. It was our first experience with subtitles and felt grateful for an opportunity to learn and experience the Culture, religious, and politics of Japan during the fuedal/Edo period. I havent watched this new series but it sounds as though I really should! Thanks Charlie
They're both classics!
My understanding was that the original miniseries deliberately didn't include subtitles for the Japanese dialogue at all - is that untrue?
You are right. Thanks for pointing out my error. I meant to say "with no subtitles". It was really an emersive experience with another culture and time!
After the final episode I can say that Shogun is a show that I personally consider a masterpiece. From the sets, cinematography, costumes, mannerisms, and the superb writing and acting. Every character had layers to them, and Yabushige is the perfect example of how fantastic the writing and acting was. You could go from hating him, to loving his character, to then hating him again, and then in the final episode you still somehow manage to feel a bit sorry for him after everything he did. ALL of the actors were phenomenal.
Fuji's line to Blackthorne on the rowboat, "Let your hands be the last to hold her" was such an incredible call-back to episode 1 when Mariko said the same thing to Fuji in comfort as she was about to lose her child. That moment made me tear up.
Great observation! I never noticed or put two and two together about marikos line and then her saying that at the end. The writing is divine!
Toranaga said "Why tell a dead man of the future?" was a callback to Yabushige telling Omi the same thing.
@@pqndagfx1143Lmao, he did heard the entire conversation.
listen to it's official podcast and rewatch the show again. With the amount of small details that went into it, you'll fall in love with it again
Shogun was like 90% "Dudes in a room having a tense discussion", and I fucking LOVED THAT!
The episode when they all have dinner together with Banturo and they drink all the sake and he shoots the arrows
@@Njbear7453 the fact that they managed to demonize and humanize Buntaro is crazy.
@@goat9295mariko was for the streets
That’s why they’re the goats!!!!
@@leonrussell9607 nah her husband was trash can't blame her
Shogun was so amazing. The actors were phenomenal, the story, everything. One of the most high quality productions of anything I’ve ever seen. A masterpiece.
The entire cast was incredible. Everyone was absolutely amazing
The priest finding out Blackthorne was a Protestant and immediately telling Yabushige to execute him was so fucking funny
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Honestly sad too. So many people have died over our trivial perceived “differences”
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Because Christians in Japan orchestrated armed revolts to try and spread their faith so from the Japanese perspective they're trouble.
@@JonahNelson7the 100 years war 🤡 All because two priests were forcibly assassins-creed'ed into a pile of manure
I LOVED the book Shogun, but my one complaint is it’s 1300 pages of “wow not much time left to wrap this up in an epic way”…..then the entire war takes place in one paragraph on the last page. But the show makes it feel so much more intense and rewarding!
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Never read the book but I think the ending was rushed and disappointing
@kevinking2380 i never read the book either, but i feel that thematically speaking, the war didn't need to be shown in its entirety. The entire theme of the story is fate, and Toranaga is always destined to win and become the shogun no matter what. Everything played out in Toranaga's favor, so the war became meaningless. Im actually a little glad that this story doesnt need a game of thrones or lord of the rings battle to get the point across. Although, there are a lot of plot holes like whatever happened to Toranaga's brother, why specifically does Lady Ochiba hate Toranaga, how did Blackthorne return home when his fate was against that. Perhaps just one more episode could have resolved this, but im fine.
Because it's not Hollywood and the war is not the object of the book.
The first like.... 7 episodes were amazing, the end / conclusion wasn’t ..... underwhelming, but the episodes “felt” different, They weren’t as deep as the others.
I loved it. Super glad it was only a mini series though.
Man when I tell you all of the cast is incredible in its acting, every one of them like damn, perfection, and I love how it makes you completely engulfed in the time period with the insane attention to details, best series of this Year
I really hope that we get more shows like this.
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It was only a 1 Series Novel unfortunately we won’t get season 2
@@StillJustSkulls hence shows like this
Shogun was so amazing. I was completely blown away. Great writing, cinematography, performancs. All of it was amazing.
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the ending left me wanting, felt like they ran out of budget for the actual big battle...They're only doing one season, so we'll never see it. Pretty disappointing.
@@Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1 wtf
@@TheNewOption I can see where you're coming from, I would've loved to see the actual battle too, but I'm happy with how things turned out either way.
I've been waiting for this since Tuesday man thank you so much for the recommendation
The concept that, " how you die is just as important, if not moreso, as how you live." Is fascinating. One doesn't necessarily trump the other, but the finality of death elevates its importance. Thus, an otherwise unimpressive life lived can be redeemed if the circumstances of your death are of significance. And, in contrast, a dishonorable death can negate a lifetime of service, or leave a blemish on the memory. It's a fascinating culture with a LOT of nuance. The Catholic in the Osaka prison scene alluded to it, "their rules are too opaque." Rules on top of customs, on top of precedent, on top of tradition, on top of expectation. Love this show!
Shogun is easily best live action TV show I've watched this year it's so good
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It’s good but it’s certainly no gentlemen.
It was the best, but then Fallout happened. Crazy to get two shows on that level in the first four months of the year.
@@yoursensei8837 Dude Fallout is good but Shogun on a whole other level of amazing
"Trying not to spoiler anything" immediately spoils something 😂
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Just watch the show bruh
btw everyone dies
@@mr.lizard666thnx for the spoiler.Every interest i had was ruined in a second
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Shōgun was a breath of fresh air in a sea of shyte that is current television. Could've stuck the landing a little better but was a phenomenal show overall. The acting, writing, dialog & commitment to authenticity was simply next level.
It was a great series, I’m only bummed we won’t be getting more seasons. Your Shōgun coverage has been the best on CZcams.
The honorable traditions and the use of them for scheming is so fucking cool. Like everyone involved knew that a character would use the grieving period to bolster their forces but they couldn't outright do anything about it, and the person themselves was only moving pieces around in the background to keep up that appearance.
I hope there's more to this story, it ended in a really great and conclusive way but I want more.
Toranaga is such an amazing character. He is the embodiment of being cunning
and his acting is so fun to watch (or behaviour I mean)
I've already seen a bunch of people complaining there was no big battle at the end and like, that was never 'really' the point. Toranaga was always playing to win, and the easiest way to win is to win so completely even having to risk fighting a battle would be a pointless waste of time. His plan came together so completely, outplaying his opponents, that the battle was won before it ever needed fighting.
@@Blisterdude123, I was first a bit annoyed by it but the more I dwelled on it I came to the same conclusion and now found the ending satisfying. He had won the war before it even started and there was no need to see it anymore. And also, as it is based on historical events, I did go watch a documentary on the Battle of Sekighara to "finish" the story.
@@SouthernSouthAsian While yes, Toranaga's historical counterpart did engage in a more high-stakes military campaign, for dominion, Shogun's Toranaga was creative-licensed to be a 'touch' more of a schemer and thinker. The emphasis was always more on his mind, and plans, than his battlefield acumen.
And honestly, yes, I don't believe it does diminish the narrative consequence. It was a marvelous adaptation.
Hence the name, "tiger-snake"
The acting was incredible all around. The actress that played mariko gave some of the best performance I've seen in years. This show deserves all the glory and rewards.
Also yabushige is the goat man was just trynna survive you gotta respect it lmao
Your’s has to be the best description of Yabushige I’ve seen so far lmao
Every single frame from this show is a work of art every quote and every phrase has weight to it… this show is simply perfect
Can't wait for the sequel, "Shotgun"
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The Last Samurai: "Are you challenging me?"
Shogun: "YES!"
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For the first time in my life me and my dad have made an event out of a TV show, every tuesday wed just cut the lights and watch the newest episode of Shogun. Literal masterclass tv show ty Chester for this true meter❤
I’ve been watching Shōgun with my mom and ITS SO GOOD BRO WTFFF the characters, the story, even the fucking intro bro, it’s all beautiful and must watch
Just finished Shōgun yesterday and it was an absolute masterpiece
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I havent started it. My gf and I are watching another show and will start this when we are finish with our current show. I have a question for you...does the series end with an opening for a season 2? I know they said it is a limited series, but did you finish with a feeling it could continue on for more seasons?
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@@Mercenary-1914 Shogun is a novel by James Clavell I won’t spoil what happens at the end, but it’s an anti-climactic end and there won’t be a season two as it was only a one novel series, and the show was written just for James but it is definitely worth the watch to get into it’s a masterpiece a Mastercraft beautifully written show.
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I believe the death you are speaking about is Hiromatsu killing himself in front of everyone. The significance of that was to gain some time/doubt from the Christians who were there to witness it that would believe that Toranaga is genuinely surrendering. I wasn't sure at first if that actually bought them any time as the Christian leaders seemed to still believe that was a ruse but it definitely led to hesitation in the Japanese Christian leaders with their dealing with Mariko, while she was in Osaka castle. Furthermore, it may have led to the eventual deal with sparing the barbarians life, ultimately I believe it showed the Christian portugese that either Toranaga still had a plan and the Anjin would not be allowed to return to his home country or that if Toranaga was truly surrendering then they would have access to the Anjin after he was gone anyway. The main importance, arguably, also actually came in the form of quelling the other generals of Toranaga who believed that Toranaga was giving up as Hiromatsu kept claiming, "do not give up on our lord even when he seems to be giving up" which prevented the other generals from either acting on their own due to thinking toranaga didn't have a plan or killing themselves due to disobeying (or thinking they were disobeying) Toranaga.
I hope that made sense, and I'm still confused about several parts of the show so I'm welcome to more discussion.
Yeah, this was 100% it. They needed everyone (including all on their own side) to believe that the surrender was genuine. So many still had their doubts that Toranaga could just give up, but sacrificing his oldest friend convinced many that the act of surrender was indeed genuine and all hope was lost so the enemy would put their guard down.
You're spot on, it was a performance almost.
One thing people tend to get wrong about Hiromatsu is that they think that he was in on the plan. He wasn't. He just figured it out in the moment and kind of gave a look of recognition to Toranaga. He knew he'd have to give his life in order to make the plan succeed. That is true loyalty.
@@anonypersona3189I just read this reply instead of the comment, but there are war crimes in this show!? I gotta watch it now
Funny enough Hiromatsu's death was not neccessary. Toranaga never planned on punishing the generals. And while the death did make the situation more serious, it was never needed. It was a tragic preventable loss
I'm going to watch it again sometime soon because Shogun is just incredible and keeps you hooked in every single episode.
Absolutely amazing show. Writing, production, music, and the acting are all on points. A masterpiece
This indeed, is the greatest shogun of All Time
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The violence in this show was grusome, on top of the amazing story telling. Best show this year imo
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You know the writing is good when you actively WANT to get in the headspace of the characters, and you know you're watching a masterclass actor or actress when you're intentionally scanning their face for any faint muscle twitch to get inside that headspace. That is what makes cinema.
Heard about it last night and then you drop this video. Gonna need to give this a watch.
SHOGUN IS SO HEAT, finished it last night and i wanna forget it just so i can rewatch it again
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Sanada was absolutely amazing as Lord Toronaga! Everyone and everything about this show was simply incredible!
He’s gonna get a ton of Hollywood roles now
@@Njbear7453he already has
Really thankful for Charlie for getting this show on my radar. Got hooked from ep 1 till the very last but still want something more, I want each ep to be even longer man this show is amazing
Shogun, more like sho me more because this shows good
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There’s not gonna be a season 2
This is it. Season ended right where the book ends
@@Blackuzumaki83 perfect, now we hope the creators will make another one shot banger
So glad to see this. I’ve been waiting for it
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sweet thank for the review. I haven't been keepin up with new shows and had never heard of it. but definitely watching it now.
Charlie uploads so much I love it I never have to watch something twice unless I want to.
Such a good series, might have been one of the best ones so far
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i’ve been waiting for his review on this one. shogun was just damn near perfection. easily one of the best shows in recent memory.
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I said this before and I’ll say it again. This show was one of those shows that very few managed to do which was that for every Tuesday night, for two months, for 90 minutes, I felt like a fly on the wall. Every episode felt like I was there because the writing and performance was so well executed. I seriously don’t think I’ve seen a show of this quality before..maybe besides Better Call Saul. But still, this show impressed me in more ways than one and I couldn’t be happier with the ending as well as the show itself. 100% worth it. 💯
This show is amazing. I loved every episode and that is rare for me. Top notch production, based on a true story, cool ass samurais and stuff, what more could you want.
I love Yabushige for being the definition of "I play both sides so I always come out on top" also love all the grunts he makes, look up a compilation its great
In recent memory, Shogun has to be among the top (if not already the top) shows I've had the absolute *honor* of watching. The set design, the acting, the cultural values of the past, collision between East and West, it's a marvelous journey all around. Highly recommend.
Very true and sad to think about how long it's taken for another GOAT to appear
I haven't been this invested in a series since breaking bad
this has been one of my favorite shows to watch it is so good.
I also LOVED it. Had fun watching it with my siblings every Tuesday night when we could all get together. It made me cry several times, chortle with glee many more times. The costumes, the acting, the atmosphere was wonderful.
Man I really wish there would be more quality shows like this
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ngl beung handled well to even me seeung my dad (a fan of the 80s show) still able to watch it and get hook
As an enthusiast of Japanese history, culture and traditions, I was absolutely stunned with the accuracy, the emotions portrayed and breathtaking sets.
The writing and acting which is portrayed here by the likes of Anna Sawai and Cosmo Jarvis are truly award worthy.
It really does feel like they took the novel and stuck all of its beauty to a show, hence making it truly immortal. The final episode where they were on the cliff took me to a whirl, like it was a sudden realisation of what Toranaga did and how everything folded. The ending is beautifully ambiguous and ended where the book did....I will remember this show for a long long time
one of the best adaptations I've ever seen, just amazing
This really is one of the best shows I’ve ever seen fr, it never feels like ur on a set and all the actors deserve every bit of praise they get. These were Oscar worthy performances by almost every single person in the show.
Everything about Shogun was spectacular, but one thing I especially loved about it was the dark comedy. The timing on several of the jokes was incredible, and they felt very natural and organic as opposed to “in-your-face” and forced; especially the ones from Blackthorne
Thank you Charlie for bringing more attention to this show, that it very much deserves
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Show was great! Finale was a nice send off, too. Some lovable characters taken away, questions were answered while leaving us wondering how Toranaga’s plan will go.. it really did do a great job with the story. Really enjoyed it, and I’m super excited for the next season!
First show that had me actually anticipating the next episode week after week, in a while.
"a song of seppuku and haiku" is the real name of the show
And Bushido
Ayo this title is amazing
The last convo between yabushige and toronaga was so amazing. Really made me stop and think about my life
I love how much this version of Shogun is so different from the 80`s version, but still the same in a weird way. The perspectives are so different. Where the 80`s show is the perspective of Blackthorn and what he does not understand or know, you also do not understand or know and this modern version is the perspective of the people he met. You learn so much more about the personal situations of the people around him. And it is beautiful.
This better be atleast 95. But I would give it 100
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Every episode was great I'd say it's a 10/10 show too. Not a single slump.
Watching Shogun feels like a breath of fresh tbh all other productions are just objectively poop
I love yabushigi and his nephew. Such a beautiful expression of the human experience.
One thing this show does amazingly is build translation and interpretation as well as the subtitles themselves into a crucial aspect. Sometimes the translations are off or purposely interpreted differently from what is actually being said.
Also I got some behind the scenes videos of the Shogun set on my channel
i loved shogun every step of the way, i see surprisingly little on it tho. i've never seen something about it on instagram og tiktok
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Those zoomers can't read subtitles
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Been wanting to watch this since it came out. Will absolutely get to it soon.
One of the best written shows I've seen in a while. I wish more people would check this series out.
This is one of the best shows in a while
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Shogun is hype
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Hollywood really needs to take notes on how incredibly attentive this show was to the details, it ties together the equally amazing performances so well.
Yabushige had a perfect character arch, and so well acted, loved the mannerisms he created for the character, definitely my favorite.
I noticed some people expecting grand battles like GoT, but Shogun did not have the budget for it. No one was expecting Shogun to be so good.
i don’t think they ever planned to have “battles” like that though? Toranaga knew he would lose if he went to war like that
That’s what good acting / writing/ and cinematography does ! Sucks you in.
It wasn't necessary to show the battle. Toranaga won it before it even began. This is the genius of his character. It is a great example of the quote “Every battle is won before it's ever fought.” - Sun Tzu
I don't think it was really a budgetary thing. Shogun was never about battles on the battlefield, but battles of words, and politics, and faith. Toranaga was always playing to win so completely, that any battle he fought was won before it began.
The characters and dialogue carried the show, and it ended with the characters and dialogue. No need for grandiose battle scenes to understand the outcome.
Bro gave the last Jedi a 70% 💀
Last Jedi was a 100% compared to Rise of Skywalker...
@@Jinni_SD garbage vs trash
Should’ve been 40%
@@NamNguyen-lr6sk 40% is very generous
You know this show goes hard when i get an ad for the show when watching a near perfect review of the show
I finished watching the series last night, it's worthy of all the praise it gets. Like charlie said, the writing is incredible. I might only speak for myself, but as a huge fan of the book I found it incredible they could fit so much story in only 10 episodes. I definitely understand the whole plot hole thing, because there are many details that were changed or left out that would make much more sense to the viewer. (Warning: spoilers ahead)
Without diving too deep into the lore, a few notable discrepancies that need some clarification is Ochiba's hatred for Toranaga. The series made a veiled allusion to it, telling Ishido what she had to go through to produce an heir. About as veiled of an illusion as being served a cherry flavored carbonated drink and spiting it out when you realize you were served La Croix when you asked for Fanta.
Some notable major differences that set the series apart from the book would be some of the deaths seen on screen; the timing, reasoning, details, and consequences. It was quite a surprise and shock to see these differences play out on screen. It does seem odd and I totally understand Charile's stance about it being somewhat plothole-ish. While it might weaken the plot, the foundation the writers built upon stands very strong, and the end product is still very much a masterpiece.
I disagree with everyone saying the ending was the same as the book. Both end epically. Both are equally captivating and like everyone who finished the series and read the book, we all want more. That being said, I am a bit biased and will give the book the edge. that extra 5% that would give charlie's score 100%. Which is perfect.
But we're all gamers here and for some of you we all know the real complete save file is greater than 100%. James Clavell's Shogun, his magnum opus, is a timeless masterclass in storytelling. I've finished the book many times, purchased it many times, even had a pirated pdf at some point. To those who want more, I would very much recommend reading it.
(Just an opinion as a fanboy, I firmly believe it is possible that some of the missed details and the book's epilogue, along with some action perhaps, could be realized as a major motion picture. It wont happen, but one could dream)
Oh look, Diverse characters in an accurate environment! This is how it should be 🇯🇵
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I think it was a bit woke to be honest.
@shitmandood not quite since it follows the original book from 1975.
Simply making a show about a different region is not diverse national representation, it's just diverse storytelling and representation of foreign countries.
Shogun is god tier but I want to warn everyone who's enjoying it that the show is 100% complete after season 1 based on the source material.
Not a single fragment of the source material remains for additional content so if the show does continue for additional seasons we are completely dependent on writers inventing all the new details and dialogue from their own minds as there is nothing for them to transform from page to screen. For me the show is over and i'm happy with it as it exists but if you're expecting more than I just want to fans to know the situation.
All the other novels that could be the basis for a potential season 2 in discussion take place hundreds of years after season 1.
Have you read the book? How much of it is left off screen? I feel like the ending could have had more closure. How did Anjin get back home? How long did he stay in Japan?
oh, I was kinda sad it ended until I read this. Ok then.
I wouldnt mind having a Tai Pan remake. And have maybe the Anjins Descendant make a cameo. I remember in the Book (same Author of Shogun) Noble House, had a Descendant cameo.
@@mrandersen6872 The way the show ends is how the book ends like it's pretty one to one sadly u won't get much closure also the scene with Anjin as a old man was more a dream a what if not a time jump
@@mrandersen6872The book ends in a similar manner with an epilogue taking place after Sekigahara.
I was devastated when I realized that it was the end, me wishing for more knowing it would end in 10 episodes had me broken but was grateful to see the show adaptation finally release. Looking forward to the spin off series based off the other book eras
damn i was hoping that they were going to make a season two. great show
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Shogun is the show of a lifetime and I’m grateful to have lived to see it 🙏
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The cinematography was beautiful
Should also be noted that the entire soundtrack / sound design for the series from top to bottom was fantastic.
,,Shogun these nuts"-Hiroyuki Sanada, probably
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x-men 97 is amazing as well, we are truly being blessed by good shows rn
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Definitely. Warrior on Netflix is pretty good too
X-men 97' is surprisingly excellent
I didn't expect this level of quality from today's marvel
Shogun is exactly the series I wanted for years
At my university we hosted a samurai expo, where two people that ran a NY samurai training program for Japanese/asian actors came down and demonstrated their abilities. The man in charge of that academy said that he was IN this show, as one of the bodyguards in an episode of Shogun, and he was so excited for it to come out. Really excited to see this man I got to practice with on screen!
I love when the moist meter said its moisting time and moisted all over the future
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I agree it was a masterpiece. Loved the storytelling, loved the character building, loved the visuals even down to the music.