How to Spot a Fake Breitling Chronomat Evolution - Real Vs Fake
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- čas přidán 29. 02. 2020
- Thinking of buying a used Breitling on eBay or from someone you don't know? Just like we need to be on the look out for fake Rolex watches, we too need to be aware of fake Breitling watches. In today's video I'll show you a quick side by side comparison between a genuine and a fake "replica" Breiling Chronomat Evolution. Can you spot the fake Breitling?
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The B wasn't centered over the T in Breitling. When you stopped it, it didn't go back to 60, it was off.
I guessed right. I noticed the chronometer hand was not exactly on the 12 o'clock like the other watch was.
I noticed the same thing, but still picked the other one because I thought it looked prettier. Maybe just because I like the black better than the white..
This could also happen in a genuine watch. IMO it is indeed suggestive of a lower build quality in a fake watch but it is dangerous to assume that all watches with a misaligned chronometer hand are not genuine.
wow that reveal!!! scary stuff!! I did a coin flip because I had no clue, happened to land on black as fake, but still had know clue till I saw the opened cases!! Great vid dude, Thanks for sharing!
I got it right: It seemed like there was much less resistance when pushing start/stop on chronograph on the fake. Also, the chronongraph second hand did not reset instantly to exactly zero on the fake. Also the words on the back surrounding the middle seemed to be less deeply engraved on the fake.
Thank you for sharing this 😊. I spotted that the grey was the fake one from the placement of the date window and the quality of its print. Then when you turned both watches to show the back cases it became clearly abvious. An advantage for me is that I already own one; so it's easier for me to spot a fake, albeit it is really scary how the fake one is finished. Once again ... thanks for sharing 👍
I've Got Each one you've done except for this one and I'll tell you... the AR is exactly what got me. they were so close and when I saw the AR on the one Crystal and not the other..that's what brightlings is famous for , having a Flawless anti reflective coating... scary stuff brother!!!! Outstanding video as usual 🤟
If you see the fake in isolation you’ve little chance of recognising it as a fake. Having a genuine watch helps but is by no means foolproof. I identified the fake but only because I was looking for a fake. Excellent video.
Good video. Thank you. How many fake chronomats do you know. Do you know fake "sport" modells like Knicks etc.?
i have the fake graphite, the 45 marker is a little bit too close to the ceiling as well. It's amazing how they'd get so much right and mess up on small details like this.
That was amazing, and wow when you removed both the backs, what a difference. Scary is an understatement 👍 Tam.
These days they come with the same movement decoration …. I spotted it with the badly aligned date.
The centering of the date window and the engraving om the case back is what caught my eye. Other than that easy to be fooled by these watches.
Anthony, my brother, It's great to see another review from you. I ended up guessing right. What told me the black dial was fake was the engraving on the caseback and the way the hands moved when you moved them. The 7750's, I've come to notice, have a very distinct hand movement when you twist the crown. It really is scary how good some of the fakes are (and have been for the last 10 years or so). All the best! - Mark
Ah yes, you are right! For me: The chronometer hand didn't reset to 0 (in reset to just offset), and the rotating bezel has a weird font for the numbers when compared to the original.
I don't know if you missed it but on the fake one the chronograph index didn't "set" on the 12 exactly. On the genuine it did. So I spotted the fake as soon as you reset the chronograph.
Agreed however there are real ones out there that have the same issue from movement wear...
Chronograph hands not resetting exactly is more common than not unfortunately. It doesn’t tell you anything on the watch bejng genuine or not
Tbh I thought this too, the only reason I thought the fake one was the black one was because it didn’t reset properly. But then again I’m not the best watch man
Great video. These replicas are really getting scary. Another reason to buy from a bricks and mortar dealer.
Chronograph hand did not sweep back to exactly 12. In addition, the shape of the crown appears a bit different from the original. Probably I was just lucky to guess correctly...thanks for the video!
I got it right. The second hand on the grey one does not line up with the chapter ring. The engraving on the back is less clear. If you would have put them on a timegrapher the difference might have been much more obvious.
The zeroing of the second hand gave it away for me
Thanks very much for this video. Very interesting stuff.
Nice video. Thanks. The applied wing logo on the fake one not perfectly centered. Also, the fake movement doesn't have an adjustment lever!
I don’t know if the movement of the replica can be powered up through the crown besides than oscillating the mass.
But just when J.Anthony skipped that part in the gray, that was my cue. Also the numbers in the date window seemed lackluster.
Good work J.A
It appeared to me that the chronograph seconds did not reset to zero on the black dial model.
Hello! I’m lost and need help with trying to figure out if my Breitling is real of fake. I received it from a family member years ago. I just have no clue where to go about to find out if it’s legit. Thank u for your time!
The superclones now have indistinguishable movements unless you look at the gearing in them with a loupe. Without a loupe, you cannot distinguish anything between them anymore.
Side be side there are visible differences
1. Lume pips size at 12,3,6 and 9,
2. Lume Color on the hands,
3. Misalignment and size of the date print in the date window,
4. Different font for the 5 in "15" and "45" on the bezel,
5. The minute markers on the bezel seem slightly misaligned at 1:30.
6. The etching of the circular pattern on the dial is not nearly as deep and crisp at 9:48
7. The "Automatic" print is larger and not as fine.
8. The little 40 marking on the tachymeter is misaligned with the 150
9. The printing is generally not as fine - especially the chronograph "30" at 12 o'clock
10. The chronograph hand doesn't reset to 12 o'clock.
11. The engraving on the back - as you said.
12. The Breitling logo entirely misaligned with the 1884 print
But yeah, if just saw it in separation, I would assume it's genuine. Maybe only the misaligned date would make me sceptical, as it gives off a cheap-movement look.
When the second chrono hand does not return to the correct 12 o'clock, I've spotted the fake, not before! Really good lookalike!
Right! At first glance I was thinking the white faced watch but upon closer inspection there were two clues that swayed me. First was the hand didn't reset to zero on the black faced watch and it also looked like the T in the Breitling logo was slightly misaligned on the face.
There is dust motes and a very large white flake on one of the dials that gave it away right away - Breitling QC would never allow that. Caseback also gave it away on the center stamp.
Man! Question is how did the replica get the AR coating correct? The authentic one didn’t have the proper crystal. That was the only thing that threw me off. I noticed how easy the play was on the replica and the case back wasn’t as prominent as the authentic. Scary!
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I guessed the correct one but just as a wild guess. It is a scary replica. I just purchased a Crosswind off of EBay and can’t wait to check the inside of it.
That’s the only way to tell? By opening the back?
Thanks
Question. The fake’s Dial has different shades of black.. does the authentic do that as well?
Thanks awesome info 🎉
If you look carefully on the side of the bezel between 11 and 12 you will see an engraved flying Breitling B... helps to make the decision!
Never noticed that before! I have looked over my watch with a jeweler's hood and that's one detail I have missed. Aside from that, the details are amazing under magnification! Truly works of art. Fit and finish is impeccable!
Very right sir.. I have noticed too on my watch is a mini engraved B😃
I guessed the fake based on the way the numbers are appearing on the date function. The 9 is not perfectly centered in the date window and this is pretty obvious. However, there are better replicas out there which are virtually indistinguishable from the original.
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Good fake but spotted the fake straight away @10 and at @12-13 seconds in. Not only does the T in Breitling sit in the middle of the B - Badge but the hands are a clear give away also. Those fake hands are bent and very rough looking thanks to your excellent zoom. Great video by the way and cheers.
I guessed right. The numbers on the rider tabs of the gray one didnt look as crisp. But the real tell was the font of the numbers on the sub dials.
Guess wrong here, though the lack of AR coating on the white one is the fake giveaway lol
I was able to suspect the dark one was fake. I happen to own a Breitling Chronomat, also being a white face dial. Mine has the gold accents around the bezel, the crown and push buttons. I have a leather strap but it has the Breitling clasp like that of the metal band. So that made me wonder. Also the stitching didn't seem as spot on. I don't know if that would really have made a difference but it was just things I noticed. Also as you brought out about the back, the lettering didn't seem as "crisp" or sharp, but I didn't know if that would have made a deciding difference.
When viewed under a jeweller's hood, many fine details become more evident. The fine details of fit and finish are impressive! The effort put into the making one of these time pieces is second to none! I don't own a Phillp Patek but I've seen Rolexes that don't have the same level of detail work. My Omega is nice but my Breitling is in a class of it's own!
This is the first one that I spotted the fake correctly! It was the Breitling logo that gave it away for me. The white dial Bwing was so clean compared to the fake. I am now at a score of 1 out of 3.
Robert Easley About that, I also just noticed that the Bwing is not centered above the Breitling logo on the fake watch. It’s perfectly aligned on the genuine watch.
The black strap, under the lettering in the watch face it has a small white dot with out any use.
I have an authentic one my father gave me... but the smaller dials have fallen off and one of the number bars fell off as well...
i GUESSED RIGHT BUT IT WAS ONLY A GUESS. I NOTICE ON SOME HIGH-END WATCHES ON THE BACK THEY HAVE NOTHES OR CUTOUTS GOING AROUND THE CASE IS THIS A RED FLAG? IGNORE CAPS.
One minute in, when you held up the white/silver I could see the hash marks around the 12 lume plot were shorter than the rest: Gen. The graphite one has longer hash marks: Fake. One of the reasons I know this is because I've done the gen dial (into rep) conversion a couple of times!
I got it right, I could tell by the AR, the watch with the black band was very reflective.
I can see right on the logo ... on the dark ones is a bit on site... not right in the middle with the breitling sign.
the date alignment in the window and the misaligned chrono hand gave it away for me
I got it right before you popped them open: the onoin-shaped crown of the original is slighly elongated, but the replica’s crown is rather round. My wife owns a Chronomat and I eas intrigued by the shape of that crown...
Lume pip at 12 on the bezel looks to have an imperfection on the dark dial. The case was slightly sharper on the white dial so I was leaning that way. Since it was old I was thinking the AR was polished off otherwise it would have been too obvious. AR on the dark dial is good but if you've seen real Breitling AR you know it's even more blue/purple or invisible depending on the angle. Ultimately I had to look down at my replica which is known to have the correct sub dial font and it looked like the white so I figured that was the real one as the dark dial is too fat :-) Edit.... just checked out more pics and maybe the dark dial is supposed to have fatter subdial font. I really don't know. Aside for a little more case line sharpness really hard to tell.
The big giveaway to me was when resetting the chrono on the dark watch. It was about one second ahead of the 12 o'clock position. Nice copy though
The white dialed one had a much higher lush back polish also the seconds had at 9 o'clock was marking seconds, couldn't see that on the dark one...!!!
Back in 2003, my wife bought me a Brietling Super Avenger and I used it for a very long time. This video fooled me ! scary replica -- good job
Black one ! Fake
Date not centered
Breitling logo not centered
Second hand for the chrono misaligned with the 12 position
I guessed wrong! I was to focused on the strap.
The Chinese are are now cloning the 7750 movement so the only way to tell the difference is close up font inspection, and history serial numbers I guess.
Pretty sure you have the option with some super clones of getting it with a real Swiss Valjoux 7750 movement.
Thought the light dial was the fake because there is no AR coating. Scary stuff
i picked the left one as fake. The dates scroll badly and the engraving on the back logo was not cleanly cut. The reset of the watch was also sloppy.
I was gifted a fake Breitling, binned it after watching this, thanks.
I guess right. The number on the date window not aligned perfectly
Excellent video.
I did get it right, but I couldn’t tell by how it looked. The black one did not center its second hand witch told me the movement wasn’t so well made, but that’s not far off. The print and etching wasn’t quite as good, but not far off.
The AR coating is what got me. I guessed wrong.
I knew the one on the left was a fake right away. The running second hand on the right has a jet plane shape to it. The one on the left does not have the jet plane. It is a scary close replica though.
I was able to spot the fake once they were turned over. Unfortunately I was only able to do so because I knew one was real and one was a fake. If you don't have the two case backs side by side, I think most people would struggle to spot the fake. The thing that I caught on to was the quality of the lettering on the case back. The serial number tip was also a good one. I will have to keep that one in mind moving forward. Good video.
The 'loose' hands in the setting of the grey one, gave it away, and the date setting was not as precise as it should be.
But yes, fake watches has distanced themself from the $100 ones from the vacation in Bulgaria...
I got it right due to the chronograph return direction. The real one returned counterclockwise, the fake clockwise.
I think it returns counterclockwise before 30 and clockwise after 30 sec....
All the while watching I was thinking the black one was the fake because of the way the chronograph buttons pressed without clicking, the movement of the hands when turning the crown seemed way too loose. But when you pointed out the glass having a blue hue, I was convinced I had got it wrong and that it must be genuine. This is why I will never buy something like this from anywhere other than the manufacturer, or a reputable watch seller that provided guarantees.
Good morning, J. I was able to figure it out because you didn’t spend too much time rotating the fake’s bezel and when you adjusted the hour and minute hands they appeared way too loose. In addition, the dial on the genuine Breitling just looked more “alive” but maybe that’s because it’s white hahaha.
This was the first time I looked at the watches together so that wasn’t intentional...no idea why I did that lol but agree on the dial
For me also, the hands seemed loose, as they moved too freely. And of course, the "light" etchings on the case back ... still, scary stuff !
Wow. Great video buddy. I got it wrong. Lol
I dumped the black dial one on the logo on the dial. But scary.
As soon you showed the fake I noticed the crown wasn't right and the case quality and guess it most be the fake, but I wasn't 100%.
When you rest the chrono on the dark one it didn’t align straight.
Sad world we live in, how about the "B" engraved usually on the bezel did the fake also have that?
Yes
Where did they get the replica? We need the name and website so we can make the authorities aware
Hi J ,scary if I buy a watch now over £500 in a dealers shop I always ask to see the movement because some dealers will be fooled and will look to pass the fake on especially if it’s a junior that is conned he won’t want to tell his boss he has just handed over thousands for a Chinese knock off.I think it’s the greedy fast buck anyway you can times we live in.
The blue shine on the black dial one gave it away from the beginning
Date was a give away. The numbers on the bezels weren’t quite perfectly aligned/centred either.
The hands move a little too freely in the replica.
You also weren't as careful when turning the hands of the replica as you were with the gen...!
When you reset second hand on second watch it was fractionally forward of 12 o’clock position that’s when I thought black strap watch!
How do I open the back cover pls? I would like to check the authenticity of mine 😂😂
What detail! Thanks. 😅
Amazing real reiwew
I knew the black was fake right away, if you look at the 0 and the 45 it is rubbish work.. great video btw
The thing that got me the right answer was the hands. The polish on the fake was not even, and the edges weren’t as smooth. Tough one though. I dread the day they start buying the genuine ETA7750 and sticking it in a faked case.
Biggest tell is the date. Nit only single digit numbers are not centered but the date don’t fill up the date box
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A few things show the grey dial watch as the fake, mostly the case back which is very poor and the running second hand which is the wrong shape, but also the hour batons are too big, the printing on the sub dials is too heavy, the lume at 30 and 45 is wrong, the date wheel momement was inacurate, and yes the chrpnograph second doesn't reset correctly. But, the grey dial watch looks to have an AR coating on the crystal which seems to be missing on the white dial watch whch gave me a bit of doubt for a second. Looked at quickly and in isolation, apart from the case back and the running second hand, yes it would fool most people.
Listen to the wind of the first watch.. thats how you tell 😀
Yes, scary. I thought the bezel on the white one looked better. It has a lovely glow and a richness to the shine that the black one doesn’t have, which is flat and one dimensional.
I knew when the chrono handle the black watch didn’t go back to zero exactly, it’s off to the right slightly
The white spec of “paint ?” Below the Automatic script on the face gave it away.
I spotted it . The fake chrono second hand I’d not rested dead in line with 12
I got it right but not at first. It took me a couple of minutes to figure it out.
Does this Breitling look fake. Very heavy. Bluish crystal. Logo and name look good. B on fluted crown is even. Bentley model. Outside dial turns nicely, no shaking.
yup, the hands are rough on the dark model and the Chrono doesnt snap back to 12 sharp, its off,, thanks for the video, the fakes have come a long way
The replica completely fooled me
White definitely looked better finished even upfront, case bezel dial pushers everything. 🙃
Well after 5 years having mine, I just discovered mine is fake .. i just changed the battery on it and the jeweler didn't tell me .
I thought the fake one was on the left as the writing on the caseback wasn’t as deep set as the right.Looked as if it was wearing off.
Good catch!
Maybe you should compare 150USD replica with 20USD replica. It has to be some difference.
I was right - cause the date in the date window was not perfect in the middle