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Using Rollers to Haul Large Dinghy Up the Beach
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- Can you use rollers to pull or push a large dinghy far up on the beach? Let’s find out. Here is the other video I was referencing using a block/tackle to haul a large dinghy up the beach • How to Pull a Heavy Di...
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Start the dinghy on the fenders before you beach it maybe. Seems like to hardest part was getting it started on the first one. If nothing else it is a good workout and entertainment for the folks that are watching.
Hey I think if you start with the boat mostly in the water it would work a lot better.
Just finding your tech talk channel... Love this video
Try lifting the front of the dinghy as high as you can and roll the first fender aft as much as possible to get it started. That first fender is your fulcrum to lift the dinghy off the beach.
I was going to reply the same thing, so just gave your comment a thumbs up. In physics terms, you want to use the first fender as a fulcrum to get the stern off the sand.
With the weight of that outboard, you will want to get the first fender more than 3/4 along the keel from the bow, it might be better if you can to lift the stern and kick the fender under, then take a second fender to the bow and kick it under.
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You’re just going to have to break down and get a set of wheels for the transom! You can take them on and off, they look ridiculous when they’re sticking up, but when you fold them down before hitting the beach they work so well. I have them on my 10 foot Achilles rib with a 15 horse and I can pull my Dingyup any beach by myself.
Need to get the first fender closer to the fulcrum to gain the advantage. To get started lift the bow up and roll a fender under the keel to at least midship. That may allow you to teeter the back of the boat up enough so you are not dragging the weight of the engine across the sand. You need to get the weight on the fenders, when you started the weight was on the sand. With your boat it may be 50/50 if you can lift the bow high enough to roll a fender far enough under it. Second option is 2 fenders on either side in the back. Lift back corners of the boat and slide them under towards the keel. Place them just ahead of the fulcrum towards the bow to get started. You may be able to do it solo with 4 fenders, 2 per side. With practice the two of you should be able to move it pretty quickly on most beaches. Agree some berms can be really steep so more people or help like block and tackle.
The rollers significantly reduce drag but do nothing to reduce the weight of the body you are moving. 300 lbs up an incline is a lot of weight to move. On level ground it is more manageable.
We had a 150kg sail boat we could roll all over the soft sand beach using two 175mm diam long black rubber Li-Lo boat rollers, unless they were flat :( . They doubled as extra flotation when strapped under the boat seats. Always took more than one person though, the smallest had the job of running the roller forward, when we were 'on a roll' it could be done without pausing but that took three or four pushing. A lot of the other sailors ran their trailers into the water, some had to be rescued, most needed more hands to move than we did. The lesson learned was big low pressure wheels are king. In your vid Billy the fenders weren't hard enough to be optimum-easy imho and starting in the water with Sierra helping would be a plus as would four rollers, put some clips on them and tow them off the side of the dinghy if they are a pest inside. Good Tech vid tho.
From the very first video I knew those guys criticizing weren't use to a 20hp engine on a hard keel. They were use to a flat bottom inflatable with a 6hp. That ain't no 60lb dinghy with a 30lb motor.
Lotsa good comments, BUT.... Here's the can opener:
1. Mount three or four 120 HP motors to the back of the dingy. (A little bit of modification to the transom may be necessary.)
2. Navigate to about two city blocks offshore, but lined up with where you want to park it, then...
3. Pedal to the metal! Slam those throttles forward and hang on. You'll windup probably 100 or so feet inland. Problem solved.
bloody hell you made hard work of that!!!!! why not just put the boat back in water and set a roller at the waters edge that way you rolling straight onto the roller and not trying to drag the boat over the sand to get it onto the roller.
Hey mate this is how we roll the tinnys over the beach to launch off the surf besch
You need to talk to Tesla and get them to build a self driving Dinghy that will drop you off at the beach and then go back to the boat and hoist itself onto the davits. Then when you are ready to go back you can call it and it will come get you.
Others have said it, but I will repeat it- first roller has to be mid-ship or further back. Lift, or prop, the bow up more (if you can) to get that first fender back as fas as possible. Start with a small fender.
I think your demonstration showed there is a benifit, once you get started hardest thing is to stop it from rolling back down (also showed how heavy your tender is).....so as others mentioned start placing the fenders earlier while the boat is still in the water. If you are by yourself you can keep the fenders initially aligned (temporarily so they don't float away) by using rope/shock cord under the hull attached to the fender eyes and either side of boat (as aft of the fenders as practical). This whole setup just reduces the effort, depending on slope of beach you may still need to use a rope (maybe not a block and tackle) and possibly get away with using your tenders anchor as a tie off point rather than a tree (if one isnt handy or the tide is out long way).... just so you can prevent the boat rolling back or to reduce effort. Developing a system that works for your situation is ultimately a personal thing.....but I certainly think fenders can help. Really nice to see you give it a go, cheers
I'm up with Jeff Holland and Jamie Miceli......start your first fender with the dinghy floating in the water. OR beach your dinghy at high tide and wait 6 hours!
Add a 2 to 1 tackle and sand anchor with 6mm rope and pull down hill. Sierra can put rollers under as they release. This will halve your effort roughly. Gravity can be useful.
I used to live in Alaska and saw many times how boats would use a anchor-pulley with a buoy system to keep a boat from going dry at low tide. This system allows you to land on shore and then using a double line with a pulley anchored off shore and inland as well, move the boat off shore to rest. This is kind of like how you use the halyard to raise the sail and in this case the boat is like the sail. It easier to see a picture of it than explain. www.neilmoomey.com/howtos/anchor_buoy/AnchorPulleySystem.pdf. I think you could make a simple system to copy this and avoid having to lift the dinghy up on the beach each time you go to shore for an extended visit. Here is another example of how to do this www.sailmagazine.com/cruising/parking-your-dinghy-is-never-a-problem
I really like those systems and have seen them through the Bahamas. It would def work if it were the same spot you moored your little boat every time but you still wouldn’t necessarily be able to lock it up
@@TulasTechTalk are you able to lock it up when you drag it up on the beach? Also I thought another one that uses the anchor rode that's kind of like a bungee cord so you anchor and then you pull the boat towards the beach and then you have a thinner line that you can let the boat go back to the Anchor by the bungee and then you secure that thin line all the interesting stuff thanks for replying
Ya makin hard work dude. Start with the boat just afloat and get the first one trapped under.
Put the second 4' in front and keep going , you do need 3 rollers and if the angle gets more than 5-10 deg you will probably need a winch. my experience is with a 15' heavy FG boat and engine.
very very cool tube video
I used to use tree branches and logs (drift wood) from the Red River when I duck hunted there and wanted to launch my boat down the levee and load it back up again. Used logs and 100 feet of rope attached to my Toyota 4 x 4 and never had to worry about damaging the boat or the truck sinking. If you have any drift wood, line it up first, then run the boat up on shore going fast and raise your motor and kill the engine and let the propulsion of the boat carry it up on the beach. Good luck getting it back into the water. LOL 😂.
I saw this before on TV,..... Fred and Barney used something similar each end of Fred's car when they went bowling.
I think your tender is closer to 375-400# overall. A 4 stroke 20 hp, battery, cables, 5 gal fuel and tank, various cordage, anchor(?), seat. The weights given by manufacturers is a “dry weight” aka just the bare boat. If that’s a 340 Highfield it shows 71kg dry. That’s 156#, 20 hp 4 stroke outboards run 115-120# for a pull start add at least 20# for a small battery and cables ~ 140#. (That’s probably not enough) 5 gal fuel @ 6#/gal + tank and hose is ~ 35#, cordage, anchor, oars, seat, motor lock and cable (it all adds up) say ~ 20#. That’s 351#, (I bet it’s more.) That’s why it’s so hard to haul up there. I have tried several methods over the years. I have a couple different tenders a similar one to yours 310 RIB w/9.9hp 4 stroke, seat etc. I only use a 3 gal tank so I can lessen it somewhat. I have tried the fender idea but once I got the thing up the beach I had to wrestle it around to get it back to the water (pita). I have 30+ years on you guys and you grunted to get that thing up there my back would go on strike let alone what the admiral would say. I do carry a small block and tackle tho I might try that. I have some old beach anchors around somewhere in case there isn’t a handy tree. My other tender is a tow behind a YL 500 Zodiac with a 90hp 2stroke, console etc, it’s easily 1300# needless to say I don’t drag it anywhere!
My bet? I'm thinking Billy is a young and strong man. He'll get it on the beach...
I was wrong!
. . . or, you could just move out of the way and let
Sierra handle the small stuff.
Agree not easier and that using block and tackle with the fender or a pool noodle might significantly reduce the effort you expend. (I used rollers to bring up an 8 ft fiberglass dingy (mini whaler style hull) but only had a 4hp merc on it).
Invent a winch drum that attaches to your outboard prop and that Hatteras sized dinghy will fly up the beach lol
Looked horribly awkward using the fenders. I am sure ever situation would be different depends on angle of the beach head. Plus you would need another dingy after awhile to carry all the extra stuff to beach it. The block and tackle seems in a way more practical perhaps just a larger size one larger diameter rope and larger block size would be quicker.
Sorry did not see Jeff’s comment before I wrote mine. I agree with him also.
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