The Best Wacom Cintiq 22 Review / Full Unboxing + Pen Test + Speed Paint
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- I put out my first thoughts a long time ago on the Wacom Cintiq 22. I also put out a video showing this drawing tablet mounted on the Ergotron LX monitor arm. Now I think it's time to show you everything. The fullest unboxing, set-up, the loooong pen test and a speed paint. Just so you know pretty much everything about what has quickly become Wacom's most popular tablet in 2020. Easy to see why. Let me know what you think in the comments bellow.
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I switched to the 22 from the 24hd and I like the 22 better. They're both great products but the 22 is just easier to use. It's not really a matter of 'pro' or 'entry', in fact I'd argue the more 'pro' you are, the less you need monitor tablets. You can do good work on any tablet as a pro, it's just that the monitor is more convenient, unless you need mobility.
So for pros, I'd recommend the 22 cintiq hands- down over the kamvas huion which i also tried. I found that one to be finnicky, and generally felt cheap. My hand would 'stick' to the glass without a glove etc. For non-pros, I always recommend starting with an intuos. You do not need a monitor tablet if you're not a professional and in fact I'd argue you will learn faster drawing on a non-monitor tablet, as it's not really the tools that make the biggest difference but hey, if you have budget then yeah, the cintiq 22 is, currently at least, the best product i've tried for the purpose of digital art on a monitor.
Just my two cents as a gaming industry concept artist.
People are surprised when they find out that a lot of pro's actually prefer the non screen tablets. Especially the younger artists are surprised by this. They just assume that more expensive = best. True, I do use the 32" Cintiq but that is because I just want the biggest size possible. If someone made a 42" none screen tablet I'm sure I'd love that. While the specs of the tablet or the screen are not necessarily the end of the argument for me, the most important factors are tablet size and most importantly the pen technology.
I made that 'mistake' too. Got a cintiq i think 21ux back in 2008 or so thinking it would completely revolutionize my art, only to find out I was having more problems drawing on it than on the intuos. Fun fact is I couldn't even properly recognize what those problems were at the time, so I chalked it up to the monitor tablet technology being 'too primitive' and the monitor itself being 'too unwieldy'. So I drilled a hole in my desk to make the screen flat on the table, then I had to lean so much I was in constant pain, lol.
TL;DR monitor tablets are awesome tools. Ultimately though, things like parallax between pen tip and displayed line, 4k res vs FHD, shortcut keys, touch features; they're nice to haves, but don't really matter!
I loved my 21UX. I never thought that was too primitive. It was vastly different and I was still using my Intuos at the same time but for different reasons. I damaged the 21UX screen during transporting it though - gutted. I still have it in the loft. Lots of cables with that big heavy tablet!!
Welcome back 👍🏻👍🏻😊. If you can, please review Huion 22 plus and huion 24 pro. I like to see your in-depth thoughts and experience about these products.
Noted! Stay subscribed and I'll see what I can do buddy 🖥✍🙌🙌🙌
Thanks for this great review! I was just sort of forced to order one because my new Os doesn't support my old pen display anymore. The Cintiq 22 is coming soon (I hope!). Looking forward to working with it! Cheers, Bas.
What was your old tablet? And what OS are you using? New info is always handy to help other people :D Thanks!
Welcome back Lawrence !
I have the 22, and I am a pro artist...I chose it because I don't have enough space on my desk for anything bigger, I have it on an arm ( didn't want to get a new one of those.. ) and my eyes aren't the best when it comes to small details on 4k displays so it suited me down to the ground ( step up from my old 21ux anyway.. ). So I wouldn't say it's not useful for pros..( when I got it they had a deal that included the remote and the 3D pen too.. )
Oh hey Nik, I'm not saying you're not a pro' depending on which tablet you use of course. Everyone works in a different way and has a different style - it's one reason I never do tablet Vs. tablet comparison videos. We're all so different and we need different things from our tablets. You create some very nice 3D game art and, like you said Nik, you don't need that 4K screen for your work, although it is very detailed. This is a Cintiq but not part of the 'Cintiq Pro' range and that's my point on this one. I loved my 21UX but looking back but the screen was nowhere near as good and it was the top tablet back in the day. It was a lot bigger than this, bigger than the Cintiq Pro 24 too. Love hearing your point of view! Stay subscribed 🙌
Finally a left-handed artist
Been here years buddy ;) Spread the word!!
Lawrence, thanks for this Wacom Cintiq 22 review - helpful
Glad it was helpful!
The reasons I want to use it are basically for fun. I need something to occupy my time and need an array of 'things' to keep me focused and not get 'bored' This tect coupled with a iMac and Adobe Suite can keep me occupied for years, and years...❤
Thank you, really helpful. Much appreciated. And beautiful work.
You're very welcome Carry! Glad you enjoyed the review :) Share the video for me if you get the chance - it really means a lot!
Hi Lawrence. I have a question about the display that I can't find an answer to anywhere online so maybe you can help me out. I currently use the older 22HD Cintiq and my only issue with it is that the screen has a speckled, almost diamond like effect to it when you glimpse at it. I'm not sure if this is due to anti-glare or something else. I am considering switching to the 22, but trying to find an answer first. From your experience, does this newer model of the 22 have the same thing or something similar? Or is the screen clear to look at when drawing? Thanks for any help you can offer me.
Thanks so much for sharing this with us, I appreciate that...💜
You are so welcome BD :) Hope all is well.
such an in-depth review, thank you!!
Hi Lawrence, welcome back!
I disagree with what you said about iPad Pro and its app: I use mainly Clip Studio Paint EX for my art, and with it, I meet the same identical experience both on my iPad Pro and on my Lenovo a940.
Ok: in Apple's tablet we can use only CSP, as professional program, but it exist, we can use it: for who works principally with CSP, iPads are some must-buy.
I have some videos coming out that you will like Antonio! I think until very recently, the iPad hasn't had the power that I and many other professionals need. Sure it's cool for sketching and for some apps (which I don't use) but mainly because of it's inability to run real OS or applications like Photoshop I have always had to be cruel... like I said, new videos on this topic to follow! Stay subbed, I'd like to hear your thoughts.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW still as he mentioned Clíp paint has been available for iPad for over a year. And that has the exact same professional feature set as the desktop version.
Also most have support for photoshop format.
I have many profesional friends that use iPad in their workflow. Not exclusively but a lot. And regarding feeling Apple Pencil is for me the only one that are on pair with Wacom and on some areas exceeds it.
Also I think we need to stop to refer to “real os” iPad OS is a real OS. It’s lacks some workflows but again excels in others. It’s a transition one need to invest to relearn in. I myself has been pro for 30y abs was reluctant. But many younger convinced me to try.
I would say it’s a lot of us old timers who complain simple because we have not pushed ourself to use it in professional workflows and instead plays it safe and fallback to desktop apps.
Being a full time pro' artist for over 25+ years, I never think of Clip Studio Pro as a professional application. I've had a play in it a couple of times over the years but I just think of it as a cheaper app for people that don't want to pay for Photoshop. I don't know any studios or major artists I love who use it. I know it is popular amongst the Manga crowd (which I am most certainly not. lol). I'm sure it's feature list has grown since I last looked but I can't imagine it being mind-blowingly great for my style of digital painting. So it's a no from me. I'd be happy to have a look at it on the iPad but I can't see me loving it from what I've seen before.
There is a difference between iOS and MacOS. One of them can't run full applications and can only run apps. that is the major difference. Of course iOS is a 'real' OS but is still not capable of doing what many professional artists need and that is the 'real' problem and why I'd love an iPad with MacOS or a MacBook Pro with an Apple Pencil. That's why after using Apple for 20 years I went back to Windows. I've explained it many times in different videos though.
I wouldn't say you're 'playing it safe' to use desktop apps. I see that you work in gaming. Your industry can use fairly low resolution imagery which is fine and can be produced on tablets in apps. I am a digital painter and create paintings which are often 400DPI and 50 inches by 80 inches. These are often 3GGB each and hundreds of layers easily too. Even the latest tablets choke. haha. My CZcams artwork are sketches but nothing like my commissions and I couldn't do my real work without a powerful computer to use. That is just my style. I enjoy the detail work that can take weeks or months!
Like I said previously, different artists need different things.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Hi Lawrence! Well, different views: artistic world is amazing also for this! 👍
About Clip Studio Paint, I must say I use it with much more pleasure than I use Photoshop: much more manga (obviously)/comics-oriented, full of well projected features to work on them, and it fully covers my main workflow (comics, in fact).
I also pay for Creative Cloud, but at the end I use almost exclusively Illustrator: I think I must re-evaluate my subscriptions. 😆
Oh yeah, I love different views! I'd hate it if we all felt the same and used the same gear and apps. This is how we evolve and change. All these apps take features from each other and it helps us all. There is no right and wrong. The only thing I can't stand is when people defend some of these companies as if they were the CEOs. Haha. I might sometimes work with some of these large companies but you never see me do crappy sponsorships for VPNs or translation services in my videos because I do this out of love.
I get full Creative Cloud every year, as well as Corel Painter. I personally was sooo angry when it went to subscription but I did understand it from a business point of view. I will say that Adobe do at least put in a decent amount of work every year to give users the upgrades and the extra apps and little bits they throw in do make it worth it. I never use their cloud server though because I have my own.
While I have never been a Manga or Anime fan I do appreciate that CSP do have a lot of specific tools for that and comics. I have drawn pieces for Marvel and that's what I wanted to do as a teenager. You've probably noticed behind me in my videos that I have multiple signed DC & Marvel pieces framed. I just found out that comic artists get paid really low wages and get worked like horses so I decided not to go into the industry. These days I barely even read new titles but I still follow the work of a few of my favourite artists. And it's been a couple of years since I went to my local comic-con (there's just too much Manga stuff there these days. haha).
In this video you can see I'm using Sketchable which is a really lightweight Windows app that is really affordable and was designed for tablets. It was designed by two guys who are actually the sons of Photoshop's head programmer. It is a great app and Microsoft has really taken it to heart. It runs super fast on Surface devices and even on the smallest Windows devices. Really simple but has lots of nice features and the brushes work well.
Are you using Mac, Windows or only iOS on the iPad?
Great video as usual, very informative. It's funny because I actually follow your advice and did the paper thing to materialize the different size of tablet on my desk. It's pretty useful.
Fantastic! Glad I could help. Do me a favour and share that video. It's a tip I think a lot of people could do with hearing 🖥✍🤘
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW No problem. By the way, it's been a while since Wacom didn't announce anything (the last time was the Wacom One in ces 2020 a year ago), have you heard of anything new this year ? (their Pro line was released a long time ago, the Intuos Pro and the Cintiq Pro 13 and 16 were released 4 years ago and the 24 and 32 were announced in early 2018 so that makes 3 years now. I know that Wacom doesn't replace their line of products every year like Apple or Microsoft or even like Huion, Xp Pen, etc... who release new versions of their products every year but I was wondering anyway.
It's not just a lack of announcements from Wacom that worry me but a lack of new ideas. Think about it. When was the last time we saw anything that blew us away? It's been more than one year!! They have a new CEO as well so I'm really surprised that no new ideas have come out.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW well, I don't worry about the lack and delay of announcements because it is mostly due to covid. We just have to look at the Wacom Fcc website to see that. In 2018 or 2019, there was at least 10-12 registrations for upcoming products, in 2020, there was only 1. So it's pretty obvious that the covid altered their plan. Not necessarily in a bad way actually because they made better profits in 2020 than the past 2 or 3 years despite the pandemic and lockdown.
For the supposed lack of true innovation, I think it's difficult to reinvent the wheel in this market and the innovation comes also with new tech and it takes time to master new tech. About the new CEO, he arrives a two or there years ago I think and basically, all products until last year have been initiated by the ancient CEO before he arrives so we can't tell if he is a conservative or an innovator. But when you look at the financial results each trimester, they spend plenty of cash in R & D so I don't worry about innovation. Also, innovations are often small and subtle rather than grand and bombastic.
There is always period of great innovation and period of evolution and just better tech improvement on every type of market and products.
For example, the Cintiq Pro 32 (2018) is basically the same product than the 27qhd (2015) but with better resolution and larger screen and better pen tech so it goes in the category of improvement and evolution of tech and not in the big innovation category but it was the 27 that brought innovation like the edge to edge screen, the expresskey remote, etc... With his successor, they improve it with bigger screen, pro Pen 2 tech, upgrading of the etched glass, the possibility of all in One with the Cintiq Pro Engine, etc... If you look at all the past models of their brand through out decades, most of the time, it was improvement, refinement and evolution of existing models (evolution between Cintiq 21ux 2005, 21ux 2010 and Cintiq 22hd is a good example of that, through years, they improve resolution, levels of pressure, better screen, etc... Just like today). We just have to wait and see. For me, the next line of pro Cintiq will ultimately innovate and experiment new grounds because when you look at the specs of Cintiq Pro 24 or 32, there is not much space to really improve. This is already 4k, the color fidelity is basically already 100% Adobe rgb, the Pen tech is top notch, they can continue to improve things like optical bonding, etched glass, but they always do that with new models. With a new model, you have to market something new like what, 8k ? 16k levels of pressure ? I believe the innovation will come with their new pen technology and form factor of cintiq rather than just better screen. What do you think ? I think it's a pretty exciting time.
I don't know if you saw it but they announced a VR Pen recently and I think it's very interesting and innovative. You use it in an virtual environnement and you paint or sculpt in the air and one of the features is that it creates the resistance and pressure of a pen on a surface with a force feedback to simulate that your pen touches a surface, among other features.
Wacom kept the VR pen very quiet. Not sure why. I heard about it because I talk to a lot of people at Wacom and I heard about it before the general public but I do know it had a very soft release.
The 32" is similar to the 27" however it is a very different experience to use. I do really prefer the 32". I would say the 27" feels more like the 21".
We all started out at one point with a 2 inch but the size we have tends to expand as we grow. I do envy those with a 32 inch though some would say they are a tad big for most users.
From what I understand the 32" did not sell well at all. So most others did not want a tablet that large. I would still happily go for a 72". Guess I'm just a guy who like big tablets :)
it can use older pens btw like pro pen1 and grip pen
im getting back into drawing would you recommend this tablet for cartooning and drawing comics?
The Mann is back!
Sure am ;D
can i ask ? is good enough a cintiq 22 hd for concept art? is a hd resolution big broblem for details. sorry for my english
shame its not 4k. i got really used to not seeing the pixels. ;) Awesome speedpaint by the way! love the designs!
Wacom have the Cintiq Pro 24 which is pretty much the same with a better screen. Glad you like the painting - more new artwork on my site www.lawrencemann.co.uk
Grazy stuff on your website! I like your style
Much appreciated! Thanks K :)
why everyone thinks that if you get something more expensive, that makes you better professional, all the studios (and the biggest ones) in the last ten years use the cintiq 22hd like spa studio, fortiche, pixar etc.
and the discussion around 4k and hd resolution is complete nonsense. First of all, all professionals and studios use two monitors (to see their work) and secondly, no one works at full scale, so I don't understand why HD resolution is such a big problem if you have the ability to zoom in
Thanks for your review. Can you tell me what software was used for drawing on the tablet. Looks like a nice clean setup.
Sketchable - I have an entire Playlist on this. It's on the Windows Store and is very affordable if you want to get the full version!
I have the 22 and 16. Love em. My 27qhd fell off the desk and smashed last year...doh! But I still have the remote.
The remote is totally worth having isn't it?? I know it costs a little more if you were gonna buy it but when you have one it is amazing with any tablet!!
"Full fledged" freelancer here, and am considering this one or the Huion Kamvas 22 Plus as the best options.... Slightly more inclined lately for the latter due to its better color range and other screen specs and due to the price... But I still trust more Wacom's quality. Doesn't help that my Intuos XL is still (the old dino) rocking so well despite not being a display-pen...
Both of those are low res screens so I'm guessing you are only doing screen res' stuff? Otherwise I would suggest going for something with a higher res screen or at least having a 4K monitor by the side or something quality for colour control.
Very nice review! That pen holder is awesome too! Wonder if it would work for the Surface Pen.
On the site they list they sell all different ones for different pens!! I will do a full review soon.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW That would be great! I checked the website and saw a Cthulhu one!
That's one of my favourites!
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW I just found out that they are on etsy, too! and they have free shipping there! May have to get one, lol!
Are they real ones or copies from someone else? Shame if someone is ripping them off.
the drawing experience its great, but about the screen, I feel like it hurts my eyes a lot. I don't know if its just me but even turning down the brightness and contrast I feel so tired on my eyes at the end of the day. Or maybe I getting old hehe. Any one else feels te same?
i have been watching all Videos on CZcams about this tablet because i was thinking of switching my crappy Xp pen 15.6 for a more professional tablet as i head to start my career as a proffessional game artist. The only thing i wanted to know is: DOES THE PEN 'SCRATCH' THE SCREEN AS TO MAKE THAT SATISFYING DRAWING SOUND AS IF YOU DRAW ON PAPER OR DOES IT FEEL MORE LIKE GLASS, LIKE, IS IT TEXTURED GLASS OR JUST NORMAL GLASS???
thanks-
If Apple comes out with a tablet that is 22 inches be honest cintiq would need to say their prayers because the quality of the iPad Pro is completely unmatched and everybody will be buying it guaranteed
Not true. The iPad cannot run a real version of Photoshop or Corel Painter or any of the Pro apps. As much as I love my iPad with Procreate... it just isn't up to doing professional work and wouldn't be, even if you made it as big as my Cintiq 32" :(
great unboxing 💯👵
Hi. I once asked you how to get a glow or neon effect on sketchable. You tried to explain it but I didn't really understand, sorry😅. Could you please make a short video on how to do it. Thank you.
Great suggestion! I'll add it to the list.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Thank you❤️
Happy to help - stay subscribed!!
I have the Cintiq 16 and love it. I am thinking of moving up to the 22 because of the screen size as I do a lot of poster illustrations.
It is best to work at sizes closer to those of your finished pieces, especially if you are a detail artist. That's why I use the 32" Cintiq Pro. Another thing that might help is a good secondary monitor for viewing reference images.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Yes, I use a 32 inch second monitor with better color to use for final reference.
Which 32" monitor do you use btw?
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW I have an HP display. It’s 1080p IPS not 4K.
Perfectly decent for reference and streaming a little tv on while you work!
Its been a long time man! How you doin? Weve been worried about you.
Yeah it has, I put up an explainer video yesterday about that!!! Hope all is well Ralph?
What is the name of the ergonomic arm that you used ?
It is an Ergotron Arm. I have an entire playlist about all the Ergotron arms including reviews and how to set them up and how to pick the right one for you! Hope that helps - thanks for subscribing. Please spread the word :D
Still, for the price, I’m not really sure if it’s really worth it. I mean, the average low resolution and not so impressive colour doesn’t make really appealing, a least for those that need a bigger screen at a affordable price. And that mess of cables...
I see your point but the stylus is way better than those other tablets that are roughly the same and I always say to go for the best stylus and screen size - they are the 2 factors that are gonna make a difference.
Great vid man. Would you recommend it over the cintiq 16? I have an Xppen artist 24 and the cintiq 16 and want to sell them both to get this model!
Yes, absolutely - bigger is better plus you get the stand as stand-ard with this one. haha.
Hello, excuse me, what software do you use for wacom with all the brushes ?? Can you put the handmade drawing as a model like on illustrator? Thank you in advance for your answer.
the app here is Sketchable. I have a full playlist on it.
I fell in love with the 22, but my pockets say 16 lol. I can't wait to get it soon enjoy the experience.
Haha! Have you looked at the Huion version as an alternative?
Yes I have consider the Huion got so frustrated with Amazon and not getting my packages lately. I am nervous to even order from them.
They are very busy delivering everyone's food shopping at the moment during this pandemic. haha. Not had a problem with them here in the UK though. It's been UPS that has been loosing my parcels lately :(
Oh wow, here in the US it has been crazy trying to get packages. They have been lost trying to get replacement orders it's been a hassle
Didn't 'The Jeff' just stand down as CEO? Maybe something to do with that. Never good when there's a change in leadership. Guaranteed that whatever was going slightly smoothly will crash and burn out spectacularly. At the moment if there's any delays in anything as well, people are just using Covid as the blanket excuse to not get their jobs done as well. Granted that it's probably valid is a small number of cases but I feel as if 99% of people/companies are just using it as a major excuse now.
I saw the review for the XP-Pen 22E Pro and watching this one, how do you compare the two? I also looked through your videos, I didn't see if you had reviewed XP-Pen 24 pro (2k). Currently just using the mouse, I did use a old bamboo, but it didn't work when I got a new computer.
The Cintiq pen is better.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW that's what everyone says, but if you were to compare a Wacom tablet to a XP-Pen 22E or 24 pro, would you still go with the Wacom product? Thanks again for answering.
Two most important things are (1) pen tech' and (2) screen quality. Wacom wins on both. Huion comes in a close 2nd.
I think any draw test should be with mouse off first then on. I see, often jitters transmitted from the mouse from even the tiniest interference from subtle vibrations through the table.
This interference is not to be sniffed at and I wonder how much trackpads on other hardware might actually be responsible for jitter (in convertibles and the like).
I'm really not sure if you're joking or not with the mouse comment Chuzzy old pal??!?!
HI Lawrence; Just found your channel; very watchable :); so Kudos your direction. I'm wondering if you have used the Cintiq 22 ( or any Cintiq) for Programs outside of the sketching sphere? I work in 3dsMax/Autocad+ all the Creative suite along with a bunch of other bits.I have RSI and Cubital due to using a mouse for too many years and its essential for me to figure out a new way to work.
I'm hoping you have some experience using MAX or Maya with a Cintiq .If not I'd appreciate you sending a shout out asking your community .
Hi Keith, thanks for watching! I only play around in 3D - no serious work for me there but I wish I did. I do have some videos in a playlist if you want to check that out. I like sculpting so I tend to use apps like ZBrush and Blender. I do work with a couple of 3D brands and even a new one based on the Blender engine which is going to be 100% free (nclay.dev/) - check it out. Using a mouse all the time is tough. A stylus will certainly help. If you choose a tablet with touch that might help more for scrolling around your objects - it depends on what type of work you are doing (Sculpting or building). Based on your apps I assume you build.
Don't discount a non-monitor tablet too if this is your first tablet and your main concern is RSI. You obviously use your computer for a lot of hours at a time and you don't want to be leaning over a monitor tablet for 16 hours a day without considering it properly. Check out my 'Ergonomics for artists' playlist. I do suggest monitor arms for monitor tablets like the Cintiq 22 and even certain chairs etc.
Hope all that helps.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Thanks for getting back; if it works with blender it should do the trick with my apps.Somewhat related but from an old different video; are you still using the HAG Capisco 8106?
I am indeed still using the HAG Capisco and have recently put a discount code and link in the video description! The chair looks as good as the day I started using it. Best seat I ever had!! You thinking of getting one?
So do I need an HDMI to USB-C adapter for an iMac 2020 if I buy this cintiq?
Honestly I can't say what you'll need for each individual Mac. I no longer keep up to date with the specs on every Apple product however if you do have a HDMI and USB port then you'll do fine!
Is the Dell Canvas a good choice compared to this? I can get one new for about $800. You would know, you reviewed both. Thinking about the Wacom 22 as well.
The Dell Canvas is still an awesome device. I'd say it beats this tablet as it has touch - however Dell do not offer support for the Canvas any more as it is a discontinued device and I'm guessing you are buying 2nd hand?
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW New. Not second hand. That’s why I thought it is a good deal.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW I appreciate you taking the time to answer me. Thank You.
Happy to help. I was thinking of putting out a new video about the Dell Canvas. I get a lot of people asking and apparently Dell are not that helpful.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW That’s a great idea. One of the many reasons why I love your channel.
this tablet or XP-PEN Artist 24 Pro ? which one do you think?
Sorry fella. I don't know you personally. I don't know which programmes you use, what you draw or if you animate or do 3D or do photo-retouching instead. I don't know if you are just starting out or a pro'. Choosing a tablet is such a personal decision. There is no correct choice - there is just a correct choice FOR YOU and you have to be the one to make it. Don't listen to anyone who says that one tablet is better than another. It's a very personal thing. I personally go by two things - quality of the pen technology and the size of the screen. The bigger the better for me. Hope that helps!
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW 👍🏻
Any time ;)
Great review! What are the actual dimensions of the Cintiq 22 both the body and the actual screen working area? I have had a 24 HD for years and i feel the body is too big. I can't use a mouse when needed without reaching way to the side and I have a small keyboard mounted on top with a cin-tweak bracket. Aways reaching. arrrgh
Couldn't tell you off the top of my head but of course they are on the specs sheet on Wacom's website. I love the CinTweak brackets. They are great.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW I can't seem to get my desk set up in a completely comfortable position. I'm not just using my Cintiq, I'm also using a monitor for reference and contract information and such. Do you find that working with the larger tablets reduced the ability to use a mouse or keyboard easily without shoulder or neck pain?
That's why I spent six months researching the perfect chair for using while leaning forward drawing and why I also use Ergotron arms! Check out my 'Ergonomics for artists' playlists for videos about the chair and the monitor arms too. I broke my back a few years ago so real ergonomics are very important to me.
I bought a Cintiq 22 when I full on scratched my Cintiq Pro 24 with some grit under the pen. I'm a comic artist and use it everyday and just couldn't live with, so thought I'd try and save some cash and go for the 22. Loved the slightly smaller footprint but it didn't play nice with my MacBook Pro at all. Outputted as a TV 1080p rather than 1920 x 1080 (There is a difference apparently) and the picture was fuzzy as hell. Google produced no easy fix so I sent it back and went for a new Cintiq Pro 24 instead. I'd have looked at repairing my Pro but it was going to cost £1000 to repair. Still managed to sell my old one, even with the scratch.
What system / GPU are you using?
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW 2019 MacBook Pro with a Radeon Pro 560X 4GB.
Shouldn't give you any problems then. I personally prefer NVIDIA cards for graphics work. Although some of the new AMD cards are supposed to be very sweet. I was a Mac user for 20 years but I've had fewer issues since switching to PC. OS X just became too buggy in the last few years for me - funny as Wacom and Photoshop etc all started out with Apple.
@@JeroKane Not sure I agree. Never had to do that with any other Cintiq I've owned and all had different resolution from the computer I was running them on. Currently running a 4K Cintiq Pro with my 2880 x 1800 MacBook Pro and don't have any issues. Numerous sources said it was the fact that the 22 was displaying at TV output 1080p rather than a PC resolution of 1920 x 1080.
@@JeroKane Well I used to run my 1600 x 1200 Cintiq 21UX from my 2560x1440 iMac back in the day so they had VERY different aspect ratios and never had any issues whatsoever. I know that 1080p is the same size as 1920 x 1080 but when I did some digging it was something to do with not being able to select a 1920 x 1080 monitor resolution in the display preferences. All I had available was 1080p. Anyway it doesn't really matter now as like I say I returned the Cintiq 22 and went for the Pro 24 which has zero issues.
Great in-depth review, much appreciated. I know you have already stated that you prefer a bigger screen but I'm struggling to decide between either the 22 or the pro 16. I've only used an iPad so far for digital art so think I'd personally be ok with the smaller size but may feel differently once I've tried a larger screen. My priority would be drawing experience. Wondering if the pro with its laminated screen and etched glass has a better feel than the 22 either though smaller. Any advice would be appreciated. Many thanks
Honestly a bigger screen is very freeing. Especially because the interface takes up so much room on the screen. What applications are you using?
PS. Thanks for watching David! Hope the video helps. Please share if you get the chance!!!
Really appreciate you taking the time to respond. I’m currently trying to teach myself after effects and hope to eventually make some in road to becoming a motion designer. I would be predominantly using the tablet with illustrator and a little photoshop. For the time being I’ve decided to save some cash and have recently purchased a moleskin smart notebook. Not sure if you have any experience using one but seems an interesting item which only cost me £16. Apparently it can convert my traditional sketches into SVG files and save them to my creative cloud account. I can then tweak the images in illustrator using a mouse. Which is probably easier than a tablet at that point anyway.
Then my previous advice stands. Especially about the Wacom Intuos. Also, check out the latest Huion tablets. They have good pen tech too.
Can I connect it to i mac 24
Yes. Depending on which inputs you have. I haven't looked at the latest Mac's to be fair.
@LawrenceMann Would we see any new Cintiq's in 2021?
I honestly don't know! Wacom came to CES but didn't show anything off, which leads me to believe we won't see anything from them in the first half of the year at least.
What is the software you used...?
Sketchable - Playlists available on my channel or this piece of software!!! Spread the word!!!!!
Hi! Thank you for your nice review! 🙏 Just three questuions😅
1. I read in the technical specification of WC22 that the response time is 22ms. This is 14 ms in case XP-Pen' Artist 24 pro. What is your experience regarding this? Are these differences significant while drawing?
2. Is the sharpness of the drawings significantly different from those of WC16? I would go for the larger screen but I am a bit afraid of a pixellated screen due to the same resolution?
3. Do you have experience with the pen of XP-pen? I tried Wacom's pen and I as for the view it has a more rounded nib. The pen nib of XP-pen seems to be sharper/thinner... Have you ever tried it?😬🙄
1. Only a robot could notice the difference at those speeds.
2. It is not the size of the screen that counts but the PPI or pixel density. If this is something that really concerns you then you should be looking at the Wacom Cintiq Pro line rather than the basic Cintiq line. The Pro line has better, higher resolution screens. That is the major difference between them.
3. I have tried every pen available (and some that are not). The XP-Pen nib is slightly sharper and made of a harder plastic but this does not effect overall drawing capabilities. You will adapt. The screens are also a slightly different texture and have a different resistance which plays it's part in how the pen nib works with the tablet as a whole. The minute difference between the nibs is nothing to be concerned over. If you find that you want the nib to be slightly rounder or sharper than the can use a nail file to shape the nib slightly.
When choosing a tablet I look at two major factors. The quality of the pen technology. i.e. pressure, tilt, hover etc and the screen. Size (bigger the better) and quality.
Hope that helps.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW THANK YOU for your thoughts! 🤗 Actually I am a 3rd year graphic design student on the way to become a professional illustrator/concept artist. My budget cannot go higher than the WC22. In my country WCintiq22 and the XPPenArtist24pro cost the same amount... Although I have no difficulties to draw on paper this will be my first transition to digital art by using a tablet. So I gathered as much information as possible. Currently I am more convinced by Wacom and their pen performance. As a newbie in the world of digital tablets I assume it is easier to learn with a more reliable pen. Better resolution can wait.. But we will see... 😅
You're 3rd year and you're only just starting to use a drawing tablet? What country are you in can I ask?
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW we are currently practicing cave paintings 🤣😅just kidding... Please do not misunderstand, we use digital programs (Adobe Ps, Ai, Id) However I used handmade drawings/paintings and scanned them for further digital touches which I could handle with my keyboard and mouse. This way I could practice mixed media art but not full digital drawing. Now is the time✨😁
If you want to be freelance then you can work traditionally but if you want to get employment in a studio then you will have to work 100% digitally and be very fast in all the latest applications and on the standard industry tech. Most concept artists coming out of university now have (at least) a bit of 3D like Blender or Zbrush under their belt as well as Photoshop etc. Animation is a definite bonus too, especially if you want to be a concept artist in the games industry.
For the pro' industry traditional hand drawn stuff is done primarily only in the film & tv side these days and then only in early concept stages. Mostly by the older folks who are my age (40+) and older. Everyone younger tends to to fully digital stuff.
Digital is simply quicker to supply to art directors and clients. It's quicker to edit and change which is the main reason to use it. In the real word you'll spend more time editing your work then you will creating it. haha.
Designers mostly use InDesign. Illustrators don't use it that much and Concept artists rarely ever will. Trust me I've done all those jobs professionally and more.
I have been a pro artist for over 25 years and I've used tablets since the early 90's. I haven't drawn traditionally for over a decade. It's too slow for client work. I was trained traditionally because computer art wasn't really an option back then - it was only just becoming good enough but it was really crappy. It's good enough now and easy and cheap to get hold of compared to then. If you want to break into the pro' industry (and if that industry in your country is the same as in the UK & US) then I suggest really pushing yourself on the digital side. CZcams is the best teacher of all. You can teach yourself 3D and animation easily. I did. I also taught myself video editing in Premier Pro too.
Hope that helps!
Btw what drawing program is this?
Sketchable - I've got a ton of videos on it and an entire playlist - check it out! Have a great day Mo!!
Do you have any tablets that you'd sell second hand ?
Sorry! Never sell any of the tech. I use it for a while in order to do a good long review. I like to spend time with a device for a couple of months if possible before the review and then keep it after so I can still answer questions. I'm not in this for the money like a lot of my fellow tech/art CZcamsrs. Plus, if I sold you something and it broke in the post or a week later then you wouldn't be happy and I'd have to spend time dealing with that - time I'd rather spend making content or drawing. Nahh. I don't want to become a retailer. Too much trouble. Plus there is all the tax stuff. Sorry Caithlin. I would suggest eBay but seriously you have no way of knowing how well somebody treats their drawing tablet either. I did a video on the dangers of 2nd hand tech a long time ago. I'd suggest either going for a cheaper tablet or saving up for a little while. Sorry, I know you just wanted a Yes/No answer. haha. Have a great day Caithlin!! :D Hope you get the tablet you want.
I do love your videos but almost 1000 euro for such low spec features in 2021, i think this is not fair to the consumer. If it was half the price this would be completely another story. ^^;
I give your video a like because i'm glad you're back on the web with reviews. :)
You notice I don't talk about the cost in my reviews very often. Tech changes price from country to country and I just want to focus on how good the tech is itself. What's cheap to one person is expensive for another so I decide to leave the subject alone. But the specs that are important here are the pen tech'. That is always the most important thing. I remember using a 2x2" non-display tablet back in the early 90s with zero pressure levels and that cost roughly 200 euros which was a lot more back then. I was in love with that tablet and I've never stopped using them since. However if you have an awesome screen but rubbish pen tech the drawing experience is going to be awful - that's why I've been very unkind to the Microsoft Surface brand over the last couple of years.
If you want a cheaper tablet with very similar pen tech then check out the 2020 range of Huion tablets. They have made some real improvements. Hope that helps.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW You're avoiding speaking about the real competitors for that pricetag concerning pen tech. Like the Ipad Pro 12.9 (smaller screen) or other brands having Wacom EMR technology like the discontinued Dell Canvas 27" (bigger screen- that pops up regularly on the web new for less money than the Cintiq 22 and blows it out of the water).
By the way, a good pentech is not the best experience anymore if you got a visible distance between stroke and pentip, awful resolution (HD in 2021...) and dull colors. Even not speaking about missing touch. Too much compromises. You are just paying to get the brand name. They got way too cheap all the way with this product except for the pricetag. That's the paradoxe.
My guess: if Wacom does not get serious, they will be gone over two years.
Since I have the IPad Pro (much better ink experience on Clipstudio Pro by the way than on wacom tech) and Dell Canvas, i do not touch my Mobile Studio Pro and Cintiq Pro 16" anymore. And the Cintiq 22 is a joke compared these two products. ( Except the size)
Thanks for your reply DB. Good to hear your point of view. I'm not avoiding any subject on my channel. I have made a point before on my channel, as subscribers will tell you, that I don't do comparison videos. People often ask this tablet vs this tablet but it is a very personal decision and no tablet is better than another. The real question is 'which tablet is better FOR ME?' People have different needs, drawing styles, levels of experience, budget etc. It's a very personal choice. I aim my channel more at professionals and so budget is not the main buying decision as it would be for amatures & hobby artists. I'm always happy to help people with buying choices in the comments as I answer every question. You sound like you're not looking for a tablet though? Just wanted to voice your opinion on the Cintiq 22 - have you thought about making review videos yourself on the devices that you have?
For me, iPads are great but they are not an alternative to a drawing tablet. They are completely separate proven by the fact that many creatives have both. Drawing tablets are in essence a 'fancy' monitor for use with a PC and the full OS and applications thereon. iPads only have access to iOS and smaller apps - while great as companion I don't view the iPad as a replacement for professional digital artists. You can get apps like Astropad to help you use the iPad as a Wacom but even with that app that is only available to Mac users I don't consider the iPad an alternative to real drawing tablets.
ClipStudio has been developed more for the growing iPad audience which is a good idea. Personally I haven't drawn comics for a few years and I'm not a Manga fan so I never touch the application. I think the iPad is a great starting place or companion device. Lots of iPad users say the pen tech is better but a lot of that is due to software developers making the applications specifically for the iPad which is a great thing. While I like the Apple Pencil I think it is very different to the Wacom style pen. I have to agree with lots of other artists who say the pencil is too thin to use over long periods of time. As a working artist I can draw for 16 hrs a day. The rubber grips cover the pencil buttons and you have to take it off all the time for charging which makes them useless. I do prefer the physical design of the Wacom pen.
I myself was the first person in the world to review the Dell Canvas and made several videos on the subject. I know the pen tablet very well and even helped Dell with some input before launch. The Canvas pen does not use the best EMR tech from Wacom. They do sell rights for other companies to use Wacom pen tech but never the same pen tech that is in the Pro Pen 2. The Wacom pen tech you'll see used in other devices is a very cut down version. The Dell Canvas is a great device and I still have mine set-up as one of my additional monitors but the pen is very hard to purchase for many people. Impossible to get the monitor arm mounting bracket now. It is often sold without the pen, obviously without warranty or support from Dell - it's easy to see why this device is now less than half price. While I do love my Canvas I do tell artists to be very careful about buying 2nd hand equipment - screens get leaned on and you can't see potential long term damage that's been done. I did a video on that subject. However, if an artist can get a Canvas with a pen and they know the artist that used it and that it has been well treated then I say take the deal. It's a real shame about how Dell handled the Canvas.
Luckily with the Canvas there are work arounds so you can get the tablet to work with other Wacom pens. That old driver has become very hard to get hold of but I think their are still people out there who have it. I have pre-release drivers so mine will work with other pens. I also have an additional dial which never went on sale. It's a good tablet.
You mention a 'paradox' between the pen tech and the monitor but these technologies sit apart. The Wacom Pro Pen 2 is used on lots of Wacom's tablets. All with different display types. Yes the lower spec' displays do effect the user experience but technically the user experience it's true but that wasn't what I meant when I was talking about the pen experience. Sorry if there was confusion there. I'm talking about the pen's abilities such as pressure levels, rotation, hover & tilt. Not about Parallax which is an issue with the screen and not the pen.
As for touch; I agree that every device should be touchscreen now but I've had a lot of comments over the years from artists saying they hate it and are not willing to pay extra for it. The Wacom 2QHD outsold the touch version proving that people either don't want it or are not willing to pay extra for it on all devices. You have to remember that the Cintiq 22 is not a Pro device so 'extras' like touch are not included to reduce cost. The features you are asking for such as 4k screen etc are available on the Cintiq Pro range.
Obviously, this tablet is not for you and that's fine. I've had plenty of users tell me they are happy with it. Having tried probably most drawing tablets in the last 30 years I think it's a good beginner or semi-pro drawing tablet. I actually think the new Huions are just as good (better in some small ways) for less money. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the matter DB.
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Thanks for the nuanced and constructive answers. In all honesty, once that Wacom reached the 2048 levels on their EMR tech, I didn't noticed any difference anymore when drawing. (I even still use the Classic Pen on their latest gen tablets, just because i prefere the slim line of the pen and the flex nibs they stupidly ditched from their pen line.)
Working on a 13" tablet for more than 10 hours in a raw doesn't bother me on an Ipad , i never feel cramped. But i think it's because the interface of the apps i use are so optimised and because of the high resolution and popping colors and lines that just make you forget that you are working on that small screen-size. ( In contrary to the of the 4K 16" screen of the Cintiq Pro that looks like the 2K screen of the MSPro 13" because of the dulled screen). But that of course is a personal matter. I totally understand that people prefere working on bigger screens.
Now concerning the EMR tech from the Dell Canvas, i totally do not feel any difference with the EMR on Wacom devices. But what i can tell for 100% sure: i use the driver from the Dell site and i rarely have a problem with the tablet. There where with Wacom, it's been a hell for the latest 10 years. ^^; (USB-C recognition, Touch stops working, personalised features have to be reupload frequently, etc. ) Now i totally believe you if you say that you can feel the difference, but to me on the Dell it just feels like EMR from Wacom. (There where i could feel differences with EMR on Samsung devices in the past)
Concerning the Ipad Pro as tethered tablet: Astropad is on Beta testing for the public for Windows since yesterday. I'm really hyped. I will try it out tonight. :) (I baked for Luna Display for Windows. Also pretty curious).
Concerning the touch, when it is developed well it is fabulous. On the Dell Canvas the touch is excellent. On the Ipad it's stellar. On the Cintiq Pro line, it's crap. I do understand people prefere not to pay for it ^^; (Except on Toon Boom Harmony. Touch is excellent on that programm with Wacom products.)
What really bothers me with Wacom is that they were so proactive with developing cool stuff for years. And since the First gen Mobilestudio they are not making innovative cool stuff for artists anymore. Buttons: gone. Flex-nibs: gone. MSPro: clunky/heavy older tech. Still not rid of space between pentip and stroke on their 600-1000 euro line products. Screen-finish: still blurry as hell compared to direct competitors.
Well yeah... Anyway, thanks a lot for your reviews. I may not agree with everything, but they are a real joy to follow when you like drawing tech stuff. I can be grumpy when speaking of Wacom. ^^
If youre a professional and you cant create great art with 22 inches there is something super wrong
I agree which is why I love drawing on my phone too - however if someone sold a 72" tablet I'd still buy that!! hahaha