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  • Three European countries, Spain, Ireland and Norway, have all decided to recognize Palestinian statehood. The recognition will officially take effect on May 28. Ireland's Prime Minister Simon Harris called it a historic day, while Spain's leader said it was a step towards peace. In response, Israel is now recalling its ambassadors from those countries.
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    3:20 Daniel Levy, US/Middle East Project
    10:58 Espen Barth Eide, Norwegian Foreign Minister
    18:04 Rebecca Ritters and Jack Parrock, DW Correspondents
    24:08 Laura Blumenfeld, Middle East Analyst
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Komentáře • 998

  • @ApLemon
    @ApLemon Před 23 dny +217

    Human rights are not negotiable, on any side, so why is DW still questioning this?

    • @ArnoSnyman007
      @ArnoSnyman007 Před 23 dny +10

      It is not s human right.

    • @greenwave819
      @greenwave819 Před 23 dny +21

      terrorist rights are however not rights

    • @jankaufmann4305
      @jankaufmann4305 Před 23 dny +11

      The discussion in this war is absurd.
      First. Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years.
      Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity.
      The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.

    • @geoms6263
      @geoms6263 Před 23 dny

      islam gave to mankind an ideal code of human rights fourteen centuries ago......they have sharia law not Universal Human Rights.

    • @xychachiniyoyo
      @xychachiniyoyo Před 23 dny +3

      @@geoms6263 Don't try to falsehood about Islam. Even who follows Islam they protect from any kind of sin. Even from HIV.

  • @jonathanarciaga3951
    @jonathanarciaga3951 Před 23 dny +356

    The value of Israeli baby is the same as the value of the Palestinian baby

  • @vanessaaventura
    @vanessaaventura Před 23 dny +227

    how can they say they support a two state solution and not want to recognize palestinian right to self determination ? Germany stays on the wrong side of history.

    • @jorgeanderson9032
      @jorgeanderson9032 Před 23 dny +13

      Previous self determinated government was Hamas

    • @lovyrituraj
      @lovyrituraj Před 23 dny

      ​​@@jorgeanderson9032 they won through elections

    • @Lfgnyc
      @Lfgnyc Před 23 dny +6

      Erm, what happened in November 1947? 🤔

    • @Blodhelm
      @Blodhelm Před 23 dny +8

      @@Lfgnyc The first two-state solution was rejected.

    • @yossarincatch6051
      @yossarincatch6051 Před 23 dny +2

      @@Blodhelm Wrong NetanHitler on record said he scuttled Oslo Pact.

  • @javiermiranda5769
    @javiermiranda5769 Před 23 dny +192

    Spain, Ireland and Norway on the right side of history. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
    Shame on you Germany!!

    • @AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk
      @AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk Před 23 dny +26

      Germany donates more money to Gaza than Spain , Ireland,and norway combined, 250 million euros,, you heard about putting your money where your mouth is.

    • @user-ns8hj2ws3s
      @user-ns8hj2ws3s Před 23 dny +2

      True

    • @JG-xi4tu
      @JG-xi4tu Před 23 dny +5

      👍​@@AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk

    • @JG-xi4tu
      @JG-xi4tu Před 23 dny +8

      Cut us some slack, we have a history you know

    • @MRPILL72
      @MRPILL72 Před 23 dny +2

      @@JG-xi4tuyou would think that history would make them more vigilant of crimes against humanity… and genocide itself. It’s almost as if they didn’t learn from their mistakes.

  • @robertmusil5831
    @robertmusil5831 Před 22 dny +3

    Hey Deutsche Welle. What happened to your interview with Palestinian lawyer Noura Erekat on this topic? Did you suppress it? Or did you just lose the tape?

  • @manofsan
    @manofsan Před 23 dny +136

    a *_RIGHT_* is *_NOT_* a reward!

    • @datboib3432
      @datboib3432 Před 23 dny +16

      I want my own country too then, it’s my right apparently

    • @Allahiswiththeoppressed
      @Allahiswiththeoppressed Před 23 dny +3

      @@datboib3432 Freedom is always fought for never given. We see the fruits.
      Israel had nothing to make it state.when it was recognized by newly formed and west dominated UN. But palastine have evrything to make them state.

    • @Blodhelm
      @Blodhelm Před 23 dny +6

      @@Allahiswiththeoppressed Then why are people trying to GIVE Palestinians a state saying it is a right?

    • @datboib3432
      @datboib3432 Před 23 dny +5

      @@Allahiswiththeoppressed israel has been having to fight for their freedom also.
      Everybody with half a brain wants a two-state solution , except for the extremes on BOTH sides.
      The average Palestinian person just wants to live in peace and have a home & the average Israeli just wants to live in peace and not deal with stuff like this every 10 years or so.

    • @PaulJoanKieth
      @PaulJoanKieth Před 23 dny +6

      hows that working out for the Kurds?

  • @wilsonlopez8948
    @wilsonlopez8948 Před 23 dny +65

    That title is horrible

    • @nurex9029
      @nurex9029 Před 23 dny +2

      Was about to say the same...absorb

    • @delos2279
      @delos2279 Před 23 dny +4

      Watch France24 instead, much less slant. Germany's history means their state news cannot do balanced coverage on this issue.

    • @mgordon1713
      @mgordon1713 Před 23 dny +1

      But it's correct. They just rewarded terrorism, rioting and violence.

    • @hommadi2001
      @hommadi2001 Před 23 dny +1

      Same.

    • @genadiyrool
      @genadiyrool Před 23 dny +1

      It's like saying freeing an abuse victim after they finally fought back is rewarding agression

  • @TheGimmers
    @TheGimmers Před 23 dny +4

    If Palestine was recongnized sooner than October 7th would not have happened

  • @audreyheart2180
    @audreyheart2180 Před 23 dny +57

    children are not Hamas .. children shdn't be slaughtered for Hamas' crimes .. build a wall. protect your borders better .. the world is mourning with bullied- bombed- &-starved Gaza; do you want this to be a forever thing? Ruling over your neighbor is obscene. 👼🏽👼🏽👶🏽👶🏽👵🏽👵🏽

    • @bigboyindhouse8142
      @bigboyindhouse8142 Před 23 dny +3

      Did you tell that to Russia?

    • @CptFugu
      @CptFugu Před 23 dny +3

      @@bigboyindhouse8142 Hamas, Hezbollah, and others exist with the active support of the population. You can't really say they aren't tied. I am against military action against civilians, but those civilians need to make sure they are not getting involved through active or passive support. There are few real innocents among the Palestinians.
      To be fair, Gaza and the west bank were pretty much left alone for well over a decade. Any hardship there falls squarely on the head of their governments. Previously things were solved with the odd small scale retaliation. They crossed a line on Oct 7. And that was all on their own. They can end this at any time by capitulating and turning themselves in.

    • @RicardoLopez-ub2hs
      @RicardoLopez-ub2hs Před 23 dny +1

      hamas started a war on oct 7. hamas says they will do oct 7 over and over again. this could end today if hamas released the hostages and surrendered. blame hamas.

  • @AB-zl4nh
    @AB-zl4nh Před 23 dny +122

    The EU should apply travel bans on all Israeli settlers in East Jerusalem and the Eest Bank.

    • @jaybee9269
      @jaybee9269 Před 23 dny +5

      The East Bank is in Jordan, doofus.

    • @owentr3svall3s68
      @owentr3svall3s68 Před 23 dny +8

      East bank- You mean east of Jordan river which is Jordan. You are right all palastinian/arab in gaza and Judea/Samaria should go to the nation of Jordan.

    • @timothyemery8289
      @timothyemery8289 Před 23 dny +1

      The EU is part of the apartheid, and the Israelis are European settlers. Fact!

    • @delos2279
      @delos2279 Před 23 dny +2

      West Bank you mean.

    • @fredowusu22
      @fredowusu22 Před 23 dny +3

      @user-pt6vg7jf6bthat would be great. Europe would a better and prosperous continent with Russia as a friend not a foe

  • @alexaravantinos4052
    @alexaravantinos4052 Před 23 dny +4

    Is this the most devoid of context title you could think off...

  • @retrofedora7061
    @retrofedora7061 Před 23 dny +4

    Recognition of Palestine is an act of justice & humanity, to the indigenous in their occupied land.
    Supporting i3roel means: Supporting occupation, apartheid, etnich Cleansing, gen0sid & warcrimes

  • @cz_tr
    @cz_tr Před 23 dny +50

    what the heck is that title on the banner?! you couldn't finish paying the cost of WW2. Germany made a mistake in that time, and today making another mistake. history will record this one as well 📝

    • @olafsigursons
      @olafsigursons Před 23 dny +5

      Hamas is a religious far-right organization. You are making the mistake.

    • @mstrehena5535
      @mstrehena5535 Před 23 dny +7

      ​@@olafsigursons Armed resistance against brutal occupation is not terrorism. Nelson Mandela did the same and he was called terrorist by the west.

    • @erikt1713
      @erikt1713 Před 23 dny

      The payments to the allies for WW2 were completed about 20 years ago. That's really done now.

    • @BOBK-jf4qx
      @BOBK-jf4qx Před 23 dny +3

      @@olafsigursons While Israel cabinet is a compassionate kumbaya club... :D

    • @Agtsmirnoff
      @Agtsmirnoff Před 23 dny +1

      @@mstrehena5535Gaza wasn’t occupied on Oct 6th

  • @weremus8639
    @weremus8639 Před 23 dny +115

    If Israel can exist, Palestine can, too! :) But not Hamas.

    • @jaybee9269
      @jaybee9269 Před 23 dny +1

      The two-state solution is dead. Palestinians and Hamas are the same.

    • @kenho-wr5ul2rh7m
      @kenho-wr5ul2rh7m Před 23 dny +22

      how about Israel govt?
      Israel govt are/were doing something much worse than Ka Mass
      and no consequence/justice to them?

    • @datboib3432
      @datboib3432 Před 23 dny

      @@kenho-wr5ul2rh7misrael actually has a functioning government with a balance of powers.
      Hamas is literally just a militant group that seized power almost 20 years ago & refuses to hold elections.

    • @bachhongtran
      @bachhongtran Před 23 dny +13

      @@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m Palestinians people are innocent, right? Ask for food, medical supply and fire rockets for decades?

    • @kenho-wr5ul2rh7m
      @kenho-wr5ul2rh7m Před 23 dny +12

      @@bachhongtran Israel does not have fire rocket?
      US does not have fire rocket?
      Uk does not have fire rocket?
      Germany does not have fire rocket?

  • @lancecahill5486
    @lancecahill5486 Před 23 dny +6

    Any country that recognizes Palestinian statehood should be aware that the ethnic minority group (s) within its borders might want to have its own government and statehood some day.

    • @Salara2130
      @Salara2130 Před 23 dny +2

      The difference is the "within its borders" part eh? palestine is not part of isreal

    • @fredrikhelland8194
      @fredrikhelland8194 Před 23 dny +2

      Norway is already on our way to de facto cede part of the country to Sápmi, so way ahead of ya.

    • @moiseshuerta3984
      @moiseshuerta3984 Před 22 dny

      Palestinians are not an ethnic minority in Isrl amigo.
      They are actually the majority and growing.
      Not even counting the millions kicked out and not allowed to come back.

  • @ua697
    @ua697 Před 23 dny +1

    It's 100% correct that Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland and Romania have recognised Palestine, but that recognition goes all the way back to when these countries were still allied with the USSR.

  • @soowo5942
    @soowo5942 Před 23 dny +5

    Germany is always on the genociding side of history.

  • @lancecahill5486
    @lancecahill5486 Před 23 dny +3

    Both Gaza and the West Bank have their own government. They need to agree to reconcile before any talk of a Palestinian state can take place.

  • @dubsar
    @dubsar Před 23 dny +2

    After October 7th 2023, it is.

  • @Jakabokbotch2nd
    @Jakabokbotch2nd Před 23 dny +3

    So we got the major votes, what's next? Are we realising this palestine state? Like for real this time, no more delays

  • @online3010
    @online3010 Před 23 dny +3

    Please recognise Taiwan and Somaliland at the same time. Stop being hypocrite

    • @moiseshuerta3984
      @moiseshuerta3984 Před 22 dny +1

      Recognizing Palestine will only help Taiwans cause.

  • @ecomandurban7183
    @ecomandurban7183 Před 23 dny +4

    Who will be eligible to live in an independent Palestinian state because there is no nation of ethnic Palestinian people.

    • @joycem6250
      @joycem6250 Před 23 dny +2

      There was no "nation" of Israel before either. You need a country to be a nation and going back 5,000-10,000 years in history doesn't apply in international law.

    • @niemand6031
      @niemand6031 Před 23 dny +2

      It's not about ethnicity. Are borders of other sovereign countries based on ethnicity?

    • @cyclomb
      @cyclomb Před 22 dny +2

      Palestinians are Canaanites

  • @juliarichter6987
    @juliarichter6987 Před 23 dny +2

    I completely agree with the German Foreign Minister. There are som many practical problems that have to be adressed, this kind of symbolism (yes, it us a reward for terrorism) is contraproductive. DW should have a longer interview with Mr. Levi were he can (try to) give answets to those practical questions, instaed of giving him a platform to use slogans.

  • @lise1255
    @lise1255 Před 23 dny +2

    So where is this Palestinian state ??🤔

  • @sherwinclarencego1933
    @sherwinclarencego1933 Před 23 dny +59

    Hamas is not Palestine. Palestine is a state while Hamas is merely the government on one part of Palestine.

    • @Blodhelm
      @Blodhelm Před 23 dny

      The government that started a war they couldn't win and is destroying their people so their leader can live it up in Qatar with more cash meant to help with the devastation.

    • @rbrtmllr
      @rbrtmllr Před 23 dny

      And Hamas's rise to power was corrupt and it has not held elections.

    • @clanpsi
      @clanpsi Před 23 dny +7

      No, it isn't. Palestine, aka Judea, is a geographic region. That's it. Labelling someone Palestinian means about as much as labelling someone European.

    • @rbrtmllr
      @rbrtmllr Před 23 dny +4

      @@clanpsi I suppose you prefer prisoners

    • @dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
      @dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Před 23 dny +7

      @@clanpsi
      Ok, maybe you prefer it this way. Palestine should be a country. But the overwhelming majority of it was "given" -aka, stolen from the Palestinians to Israel. So you're right. It's not a state. It should be a country.

  • @teoweingee6142
    @teoweingee6142 Před 23 dny +47

    Germany "two states solution requires direct negotiation on both sides?" hahaha, let Israel decide when to recognize Palestinian state? Haha, everyone know will never happen, all talk only 😂😂😆😆

    • @Stevemcqueen808
      @Stevemcqueen808 Před 23 dny +8

      Palastinians don't want a state, they want the whole piece.

    • @datboib3432
      @datboib3432 Před 23 dny +5

      Hamas charter outright denies the right for israel to exist.
      Israel (and everyone else, for that matter) is for two-state solution. But the government of that state can’t be bent on the destruction of the other.
      Hence why israel is for two state solution, just not under hamas rule.

    • @delos2279
      @delos2279 Před 23 dny +4

      @@datboib3432 and the PA? Because Israel is the one that was annexing the West Bank, which is the PA, not Hamas, and that was going on decades before Hamas ever existed.

    • @hrvojeorsolic1058
      @hrvojeorsolic1058 Před 23 dny +3

      Palestine was never a country, Palestinians are not a nation, they are Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian origin immigrants in Israel.

    • @Stevemcqueen808
      @Stevemcqueen808 Před 23 dny +2

      @@hrvojeorsolic1058 shhhh that doesn't fit the occupier/occupied narrative

  • @berschte
    @berschte Před 23 dny +2

    No this should have been done a long time ago.

  • @urkiddingme6254
    @urkiddingme6254 Před 23 dny

    Good coverage, DW, thank you.

  • @irinegorshtein7597
    @irinegorshtein7597 Před 23 dny +2

    And nobody put pressure on Hamas. Only on Israel.

    • @Iris-hx6ox
      @Iris-hx6ox Před 23 dny

      No one is supporting Hamas. Both Israel and Hamas have been using the Palestinians as political tools. Palestinians have a right to exist. They deserve their own place just as Israel deserves theirs. It can be done without Hamas being part of it and without Israels boot on the innocents throats.

  • @Nancy-mi3xe
    @Nancy-mi3xe Před 23 dny +5

    Maybe the US should recognize breakaway ethnicities or regions of Ireland(Irish Travelers), Spain(Basque, Galician, Catalan and Castilian regions) and Norway(Kvens, Romani, Tatars), as sovereign states, and recognize them. Let's make our own unilateral announcement for the breakaway ethnicities states.

    • @ethan073
      @ethan073 Před 23 dny +1

      Breakaway? You may want to spend some time researching how the Israeli state was formed…

  • @Luca-gu7qu
    @Luca-gu7qu Před 23 dny

    The last speaker said declaring independence doesn't lead to any path forward. I would recommend looking at Irish history between 1919-1949. The Taoiseach referenced it in his speech, very directly to make people look at the facts.

  • @mimikrya8794
    @mimikrya8794 Před 23 dny +1

    Isn't it contradictory that the majority of comments emphasize only the symbolic significance of the recognition of the Palestinian state, and on the other hand, the same recognition is cited as an obstacle in the negotiations for the release of the hostages? Can someone explain to me how the recognition of the Palestinian state affects the negotiations on the release of the hostages?🤔

    • @adriannaconnor6471
      @adriannaconnor6471 Před 23 dny

      They can no longer use the recognition of Palestine as a carrot to get the Palestinians to release hostages. It is emboldening Hamas and making them think that they can get away with more things.

  • @HH-qk2or
    @HH-qk2or Před 23 dny +32

    Wow, what a premise DW. 75 years of occupation, land theft and murder and you ask such a question. There is nothing wrong with Journalism that seeks to find the truth, but the way you posed it comes from a sense of entitlement and lack of understanding.

    • @johns1600
      @johns1600 Před 23 dny +3

      Shocking in how biased he was in his interview style

    • @johncalligeros2108
      @johncalligeros2108 Před 23 dny +4

      @@johns1600 Is Phil Gayle, the DW interviewer, in the surreptitious pay of the German establishment? This is possibly the worst DW effort at unbiased journalism I have ever watched. For the record he has a BSc. in sports science, and a MA in creative writing. Maybe that explains his demeanour/approach/attitude; one of more or less permanent disdain, which I think he mistakes for edginess.

    • @jankaufmann4305
      @jankaufmann4305 Před 23 dny +4

      The discussion in this war is absurd.
      First. Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years.
      Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity.
      The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.

    • @francotheafrican7550
      @francotheafrican7550 Před 23 dny +3

      @@jankaufmann4305 you again? You keep copy pasting your ideological nonsense sense everywhere smh

    • @olgakessel4101
      @olgakessel4101 Před 23 dny +1

      @@francotheafrican7550 every word in his comment is true

  • @unclescar5616
    @unclescar5616 Před 23 dny +3

    I'm not a mathematician nor a political scientist but I think a two-state solution requires that there be TWO states, right?

  • @batosato
    @batosato Před 23 dny +1

    Do you call Irish freedom struggle a terrorist act? If not, then how can one call Palestinian struggle a terrorist act?

  • @benagl
    @benagl Před 20 dny

    8:07 "October 7th was a shocking violation of international law"?
    October 7th was a horrifying violation of every single principle of human dignity

  • @liar-liar
    @liar-liar Před 23 dny +4

    All respect goes to the 3 brave countries that have backbones and the balls of steel

  • @VoiceSriLanka
    @VoiceSriLanka Před 23 dny +19

    We will do everything possible to stop those 3 countries from recognising the state of Palestine 🇵🇸
    Israeli foreign Minister
    ( above statement is enough to understand they don’t want Palestinians or a Palestinian state - BIBI tells 80% Palestinians are Hamas while President said 90% of them are not innocent even though half of the Palestinians are children)

  • @RS-uh7rz
    @RS-uh7rz Před 23 dny

    DW should have given Eylon Levy 5 minutes to present the other side of the argument.

  • @UnReal31337
    @UnReal31337 Před 22 dny

    You can say that the Emancipation Proclamation was a reward for what happened at Harper's Ferry, WV in the 19th century when you follow this logic.

  • @eshvartz
    @eshvartz Před 23 dny +2

    Is recognizing "palestinian" statehood a prize for terror? YES.

    • @Iris-hx6ox
      @Iris-hx6ox Před 23 dny

      No, it doesn't have to be that.

  • @Raincognoscente
    @Raincognoscente Před 23 dny +23

    Norway and Ireland continuing to be cool asf as always.

    • @aleonyohan6745
      @aleonyohan6745 Před 23 dny +3

      Thank goodness we have an example to follow. Big Love from a level-headed American. Free Palestine.

    • @jdotsalter910
      @jdotsalter910 Před 23 dny +4

      Hey don't forget Spain! Vale!

    • @fredrikhelland8194
      @fredrikhelland8194 Před 23 dny +1

      Yeah, I remember when we recognised Ismail Haniye as leader of the Palestinian government. Cool asf

  • @ibatawi
    @ibatawi Před 23 dny +2

    A state means passports are issued. Good luck to Norway, Spain etc that choose this path , 10 of thousands of Palestinian coming to your shore, when they occupied and refuse to leave, form their little communities.

  • @B-B-W-Engel
    @B-B-W-Engel Před 23 dny +1

    Is recognizing Palestine a "reward for terrorism"? The answer depends on your perspective I reckon. From Netanyahus point of view, it's not a "reward for terrorism".

  • @ikku4321
    @ikku4321 Před 23 dny +7

    This headline has lost human decency.

    • @Keepthepeacesharethelove
      @Keepthepeacesharethelove Před 23 dny +1

      How do you mean this?

    • @ikku4321
      @ikku4321 Před 23 dny +1

      @@Keepthepeacesharethelove 'Is recognizing Palestine a reward for terrorism?' how would you read this in the light of the latest news, history and human rights? For me it's an attempt to re-define morale through isolating viewpoints while sacrificing modern society's core values.

  • @clanpsi
    @clanpsi Před 23 dny +12

    It's an insult to logical thought. Palestine, aka Judea, is a geographic region. That's it. Israelis are Palestinian. Tourism brochures from late 1930s Israel literally advertised "Visit Palestine." It's the same as calling someone from Europe European.

    • @filipe5722
      @filipe5722 Před 23 dny +1

      Thank you for adding the disclaimer that your comment was an insult to logical thought. I fully agree.

  • @humanistreason
    @humanistreason Před 23 dny

    It's recognizing the existence of a people, as deserving of all human rights just like us

  • @r0b0tcat
    @r0b0tcat Před 20 dny

    You're assuming that Palestinians want 2 states. They don't.

  • @devildevil2271
    @devildevil2271 Před 23 dny +3

    They don't want to be complicit

  • @bubblebobble9654
    @bubblebobble9654 Před 23 dny +4

    I haven't yet heard the argument that the Israeli government being a democracy with a balance of powers, first world economics, powerful friends with shared values, is precisely why it is being called on to a higher standard than say a warlord in the Congo or Iran. And the fact that it lives in a dangerous neighborhood, while unfortunate, is not justification to operate for so long outside of those expectations.

    • @moiseshuerta3984
      @moiseshuerta3984 Před 22 dny

      Marriage between different religions is not recognized in Isrl.

  • @mexikaiju
    @mexikaiju Před 23 dny +1

    That lady at the end just got sent there to try to revive interest in the Abraham Accords, which absolutely did not take Palestine into account, even if she's trying to say otherwise. Pretty pathetic.

    • @RicardoLopez-ub2hs
      @RicardoLopez-ub2hs Před 23 dny

      PA was offered huge investments (jobs, trade, factories, loans, ...) to participate in Abraham Accords. PA tuyrned it down!

  • @gypon2732
    @gypon2732 Před 23 dny +4

    Germany will possibly face growing isolation as well because of their one sided stance and possible complicity charges.

  • @isasaleh1508
    @isasaleh1508 Před 23 dny +15

    I find it strange that Germany wants Palestinians to negotiate with Israel but don't encourage Ukrainians to talk with Russia.

    • @eddastrohmayer251
      @eddastrohmayer251 Před 23 dny +2

      They should do also with Ukraine ! Negotiations!

    • @preselnik7506
      @preselnik7506 Před 23 dny

      Germany wants, what US of A wants.

    • @adriannaconnor6471
      @adriannaconnor6471 Před 23 dny

      If Ukrainians negotiate with Russia, Russia will just take a break and learn from its past mistakes and then invade whatever's left of Ukraine a few years down the road. The war in Ukraine would immediately end if Russia left.

    • @cyclomb
      @cyclomb Před 22 dny

      Germany is America's proxy state after all

    • @troublingrain3060
      @troublingrain3060 Před 22 dny

      yes

  • @Kohen124
    @Kohen124 Před 22 dny +1

    "They have put a noose around their own necks."

  • @JG-xi4tu
    @JG-xi4tu Před 23 dny

    This gave me a lot to think about. Thank you DW.

  • @arlenreinstein9907
    @arlenreinstein9907 Před 23 dny +17

    Churchill said : at least when you stand alone, you know where you stand!

  • @SoBiased
    @SoBiased Před 23 dny +44

    3 Brave countries that have balls of steel

    • @jonathanjacob5453
      @jonathanjacob5453 Před 23 dny +2

      Balls of steel indeed. Imagine the pressure being put on them.

  • @mildakacergiute1924
    @mildakacergiute1924 Před 22 dny

    CZcams deletes my comments if I write an oppose opinion.

  • @rockotter666
    @rockotter666 Před 23 dny +1

    Lauren Blumenfeld is just a mouth for the US govt. THe US govt could just cut off weapons and aid to Israel and create a situation where Israel has no choice but peace and a 2 state solution. The US will never allow a 2 state solution.

  • @LouiseBarnes-pg2yy
    @LouiseBarnes-pg2yy Před 23 dny +59

    No. They deserve to be free from apartheid.

    • @jankaufmann4305
      @jankaufmann4305 Před 23 dny +3

      They live in apartheid due to Humus - not Israel. Israel ranks the highest on human rights indexes. Palestine in the lowest.

    • @sirgg3847
      @sirgg3847 Před 23 dny

      @@jankaufmann4305 yeah khummus in west bank too? fking hasbara

    • @stephensimpson8531
      @stephensimpson8531 Před 23 dny +1

      The biggest bank in Israel is owned by a Palestinian. There are Palestinians in the Knesset and in the Supreme Court. Compare that to the position of Palestinians in Lebanon…

    • @vervetech9395
      @vervetech9395 Před 23 dny +2

      ​@@jankaufmann4305Apartheid existed long before Hamas became a thing so quit spreading misinformation.

    • @jankaufmann4305
      @jankaufmann4305 Před 23 dny +1

      I don't know what you mean by that. Israel ranks the highest percentage on human right indexes. Palestine in the lowest. If there i something as Apartheid it exists in Palestine since Humus deny their citizines basic human rights.

  • @user-wc8lw9km4w
    @user-wc8lw9km4w Před 23 dny +80

    Denying Palestine right to exist is terrorism

    • @urbansenicar81
      @urbansenicar81 Před 23 dny +2

      No. It's annexation.

    • @greenwave819
      @greenwave819 Před 23 dny +5

      Terrorism should not exist tho

    • @user-wc8lw9km4w
      @user-wc8lw9km4w Před 23 dny +3

      @@greenwave819 exactly. So denying Palestine shouldn't exist 👍✌️

    • @geoms6263
      @geoms6263 Před 23 dny +2

      we recognize Palestine as ancient roman province

    • @lise1255
      @lise1255 Před 23 dny

      Palestine exists as it always has. There's a country called Israel in Palestine and a bit of Lebanon too.

  • @bachhongtran
    @bachhongtran Před 23 dny +1

    Did they recognized Taiwan?

  • @XDSDDLord
    @XDSDDLord Před 23 dny +1

    Mahmoud Abbas is even less of a president than Ebrahim Raisi was, and inshallah he meets the same fate.

  • @criticalobserver5720
    @criticalobserver5720 Před 23 dny +10

    Are they recognizing Hamas? Do they have any idea of their message?

    • @miguelmelchior986
      @miguelmelchior986 Před 23 dny +9

      The problem is recognizing an occupying and criminal pseudo country..

    • @AzrenKaleBolles-Pohja
      @AzrenKaleBolles-Pohja Před 23 dny +8

      Palestine and Hamas are not the same Thing.

    • @jewiesnew3786
      @jewiesnew3786 Před 23 dny +7

      They are recognizing Palestine, never hamas

    • @datboib3432
      @datboib3432 Před 23 dny

      @@AzrenKaleBolles-Pohjaconsidering they govern the Gaza Strip & the citizens have allowed them to for nearly 20 years , yes it is

  • @oatlylatte9
    @oatlylatte9 Před 23 dny +19

    from a neutral PoV, you guys have been ignoring palestine for 70+ years and it doesnt solve anything only to make it worse. maybe now try recognizing them and maybe things will change.

  • @rifatahmed-ok6et
    @rifatahmed-ok6et Před 23 dny +1

    Love from Bangladesh for Spain, Ireland, Norway ❤❤❤

  • @mikicerise6250
    @mikicerise6250 Před 23 dny +6

    Yes.

  • @heberrodriguez5016
    @heberrodriguez5016 Před 23 dny +3

    Is really that the question? Wow!

  • @deadmanprodinc
    @deadmanprodinc Před 23 dny +1

    It appears that DW is on Netanyahu's side on this issue. When the host says it is easy to see why "Palestine being recognized as a state" is a reward for terrorists. First, 90% of the Palestinian people killed were not terrorist nor were they Hamas. Secondly, the Hamas attack, as atrocious as that was, appeared to be the final straw to 76 years of, not only Palestinian oppression, but all the murder and crimes against humanity oppression brought with it. As if being confined to a walled in prison was not enough. Several Palestinian generations were born into this oppression and have never experienced freedom, rights or equality. This history is not a secret and it is why people around the world are protesting and supporting Palestinians....but not DW news!

  • @tcc830
    @tcc830 Před 23 dny

    The last guest speaker is good in describing the underlying currents. The statehood recognition by the 3 nations is unhelpful to move anyone forward. In fact, .. i think Norway hampers its mediator role to facilitate the tax revenue to PA in W. Bank?

  • @tadrod2323
    @tadrod2323 Před 23 dny +11

    it was the product of not recognizing it., but Hamas should have no place in a Palestinian state.

    • @joexavier4070
      @joexavier4070 Před 23 dny +1

      If they recognized earlier this Will not happened at first place

  • @markrahman5745
    @markrahman5745 Před 23 dny +27

    What terrorism ,fighting for freedom isn’t terrorism, Palestinians have the right to fight and resist occupation and oppression ,so many nations done it and Palestinians are no exception, they have the right of self determination and statehood like Israel and every other nation on earth and no one could or can deny that for them, gods given rights

    • @theodorabruin4601
      @theodorabruin4601 Před 23 dny

      Why did they vote in the terrorist group Hamas to rule them? They Palestinians should be fighting Hamas!

    • @olafsigursons
      @olafsigursons Před 23 dny +7

      Fighting for freedom is targeting political or military target. To be oppressed doesn't give you the tight to commit atrocities. To be oppressed doesn't give you the right to be religious far-right.

    • @sahroyusuf9130
      @sahroyusuf9130 Před 23 dny

    • @sahroyusuf9130
      @sahroyusuf9130 Před 23 dny

      Free falastin

    • @roystonboodoo7525
      @roystonboodoo7525 Před 23 dny +1

      ​@@olafsigursons..
      1. and the U.S does it without being oppressed !😒
      2. Everyone has a right to their religious beliefs, historical religious wars are a given worldwide (I'm not saying I agree )

  • @ahmadbhatti4875
    @ahmadbhatti4875 Před 23 dny

    Let us negotiate if humans of britain, UK, germany and Israel should have freedom.

  • @dailylearning1706
    @dailylearning1706 Před 23 dny

    The unilateral decision can not work. Some of these leaders should know that. This is a decades-old problem that requires holistic discussion and agreement from all the parties involved. Unilaterally addressing it will only complicate the whole issue. Many countries, including the USA, are saying the same thing about the two-state solution, but it should be done properly for lasting peace.

  • @xychachiniyoyo
    @xychachiniyoyo Před 23 dny +4

    Thanks, Thanks, Thanks Spain, Norway, Ireland 🇸🇯❤️🇪🇸❤️🇮🇪❤️ YOU ARE ALWAYS WILL RECOGNITION AS GOOD SOULS.

  • @louistan7560
    @louistan7560 Před 23 dny +9

    This question coming from a twisted mind.

  • @smn2666
    @smn2666 Před 22 dny

    Ok now provide the map

  • @Moskow87
    @Moskow87 Před 23 dny +3

    Tell me: when did humans get anything, any right, without violence?

  • @vangelisskia214
    @vangelisskia214 Před 23 dny +13

    Israel should recognize a Catalonian state. Maybe a Basque state as well. And then let's see the hypocritical spanish reaction...

    • @Salara2130
      @Salara2130 Před 23 dny +4

      Palestine is not part of Isreal... what is wrong with you people...

    • @xXFebo92Xx
      @xXFebo92Xx Před 23 dny +3

      @Salara2130 it just shows that many Israelis already think that the Palestinian territories belong to Israel like Catalonia belongs to Spain. Not surprising

    • @moiseshuerta3984
      @moiseshuerta3984 Před 22 dny +4

      Basques and Catalonians have full citizenship rights.
      Isrl should just give the Palestinians full citizenship rights
      Palestinians already outnumber Israelis by a million.

  • @Gio.761
    @Gio.761 Před 23 dny

    Mister Livy always talks sense!

  • @Alsayid
    @Alsayid Před 22 dny

    Hey Spain, how about recognizing an independent Euscadi? Or Catalonia? Hey Norway, how about recognizing an independent Lapland? Something to consider.

    • @moiseshuerta3984
      @moiseshuerta3984 Před 22 dny

      People in Basque country and Catalonia have FULL Citizenship rights. Same in Norway.
      How about giving all Palestinians FULL citizenship rights?
      No? Why?

  • @xychachiniyoyo
    @xychachiniyoyo Před 23 dny +4

    Those say two-state solution but keep silence. Actually they only want Israel state there not Paletine.

  • @primal1233
    @primal1233 Před 23 dny +19

    In a way it is a reward because of what happened on October 7th.

    • @timmy-wj2hc
      @timmy-wj2hc Před 23 dny +7

      The Right of Armed Resistance under International Law. 💪👏👏👏

    • @hesimplywillnotdie
      @hesimplywillnotdie Před 23 dny +2

      @@timmy-wj2hc Which law book are you reading? Is it hard to translate from Russian?

    • @primal1233
      @primal1233 Před 23 dny +1

      @@timmy-wj2hc if you're talking about murdering 1200 people a right to resistance under international law you are delusional

    • @raminm.8785
      @raminm.8785 Před 23 dny +2

      History did not start on Oct 7th!

    • @primal1233
      @primal1233 Před 23 dny +3

      @@raminm.8785 it doesn't give them the right to kill innocent people

  • @hiramavalos1936
    @hiramavalos1936 Před 23 dny

    What about the right of self determinatiin like any other country in the world?

  • @danielcaceres9971
    @danielcaceres9971 Před 23 dny +32

    No, it is not. Germany needs to stop pandering to Israeli’s far right whims

  • @krmon1992
    @krmon1992 Před 23 dny +12

    From "we don't negotiate with terrorists", To "reward the terrorists" 😂

    • @steelytemplar
      @steelytemplar Před 23 dny +3

      As long as they are recognizing the Palestinian Authority and not Hamas as the government of the Palestinian state, it is not a reward for terrorism.

    • @zepher664
      @zepher664 Před 23 dny

      More like, we are the terrorists. We're the ones who stole Palestine in the first place, and so we are complicit in the results. Continuing to refuse recognition of Palestinian statehood is just continuing to deny our own responsibility.
      Unfortunately, many of the people in power are cowards who flee from the barest whisper of accountability.

    • @krmon1992
      @krmon1992 Před 23 dny

      @@steelytemplar Palestinian authority is Hamas

    • @vervetech9395
      @vervetech9395 Před 23 dny +3

      ​@@krmon1992Reality says opposite. Most of Palestine is governed by the Palestinian Authority. That's what's recognized internationally not Hamas. So get that right

    • @steelytemplar
      @steelytemplar Před 23 dny +1

      @krmon1992 No, the Palestinian Authority is the other ruling Palestinian faction - the one that governs the West Bank and which is interested in peaceful coexistence with Israel.
      Hamas isn't the legitimate government of anyone. They were elected into power in 2006 based on promises of reducing corruption. And, based on exit polls, a significant portion of the Gazans who voted for Hamas in that election also wanted to pursue a peace process with Israel. Once in power, however, Hamas used violence to solidify their control in Gaza, and they no longer allow elections.
      The Palestinian Authority and Hamas are enemies of each other.
      The Palestinian Authority is the way forward for peace.

  • @hakwes
    @hakwes Před 22 dny

    Dude, how can Germany be on the wrong side of history again ?

  • @jonathanjacob5453
    @jonathanjacob5453 Před 23 dny +1

    2:45 “unilaterally recognize Palestinian state”? The vast majority of the countries recognize the Palestinian state. This is no longer something to debate.

  • @PerceivedREALITY999
    @PerceivedREALITY999 Před 23 dny +3

    "If I don’t steal your home, someone else will" - Yaakov, Israeli Settler

    • @Deea88
      @Deea88 Před 22 dny

      Palestinians are not Hamas. Israelis are not settlers.

  • @franny5295
    @franny5295 Před 23 dny +4

    Should Hamas have had to cause such a scene to have the Palestinian legitimate interests heard?
    Edited to add: Did the Isrealies really have to respond the way they did? They could have played the victim and gotten whatever they wanted but they chose to show their behinds.

    • @Stevemcqueen808
      @Stevemcqueen808 Před 23 dny

      So Iran, Hezbollah, and Syrian groups all perched on the border is unrelated? Wake up

    • @zarizx3426
      @zarizx3426 Před 23 dny +1

      It's their true colors..it's hard to conceal afterall

    • @thefourthrabbit9516
      @thefourthrabbit9516 Před 23 dny +3

      Yes, they did play the victim for like 20 years, during which time they slowly encroached on Palestinian lands on the West Bank and closed off Gaza like an open-air prison. Apparently, that is not enough for them. So Hamas "causing a scene" was what they had wanted all these years, and they literally pushed for Hamas to cause a scene. They might even have purposefully facilitated the Hamas attack (by ignoring relevant intelligence and pulling off border guards). After that, they had been using the Oct 7 event to cover for all the atrocities they committed.
      From the perspective of the Palestinians, who have suffered systematic oppression by the Israeli apartheid regime for 70 years, their suffering hardly gets any mainstream reports and will never receive substantial international support. So if they truly want freedom, they cannot rely on Israel. They cannot rely on the Palestinian authority in the West Bank, who are basically controlled by Israel. They cannot rely on the international society, which largely ignored their plight. What choice do they have other than supporting Hamas? At least this time it worked.

  • @aligmal5031
    @aligmal5031 Před 20 dny

    "is recognizing a reward for terror" DW says that while south africa exist

  • @vonblunder
    @vonblunder Před 23 dny

    The premise of the title question is preposterous.

  • @YonieZukowsky51
    @YonieZukowsky51 Před 23 dny +3

    A Palestenian state would be run by Hamas. I suppose that makes absolutely no difference to these European leaders.

  • @xXBlack666RoseXx
    @xXBlack666RoseXx Před 23 dny +4

    Yes it is

  • @willscurran
    @willscurran Před 22 dny

    The second guest claiming PLO wants peace and is different from Hamas. lol

  • @mansk4
    @mansk4 Před 20 dny

    Of course, wouldn’t have expected anything less from a German state-owned media organization.

  • @Juliet.7Sh
    @Juliet.7Sh Před 23 dny +23

    От создания независимого Палестинского государства будет мир в Палестине и на Ближнем Востоке! Палестинским беженцам нужно вернуться на исторически родную землю. Пора израилю прекратить огонь, геноцид в Газе и освободить всю Палестинскую землю! Мнения израиля вообще не имеет никакого значения т.к. еврейское государство было создано в 1948г. против желания Палестинского народа на святой арабской Палестинской земле! Спасибо всем странам за поддержку Палестины!

  • @JamesBond-su7hj
    @JamesBond-su7hj Před 23 dny +3

    Your master says so

  • @ONeillsJimbaLounge
    @ONeillsJimbaLounge Před 23 dny +1

    Also don’t forget if Palestine is recognized as a state this means they are allowed to have an official military. That military will get funding from friends Israel and the US don’t want. Also October 7th was also Putin’s birthday.

    • @cripmeister9104
      @cripmeister9104 Před 23 dny

      First chance they get they will start a war against Israel - and lose

  • @n0name38
    @n0name38 Před 23 dny +1

    This is insane