Does Valve see it? Steam Deck Update
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Steam Deck is Struggling with Big Games. Should we Worry?
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Two huge releases from the last month, Dragon’s Dogma 2 and Horizon Forbidden West, have failed Valve’s compatibility testing and have been branded ‘Unsupported’ for Steam Deck.
This is by no means a call for panic, but it feels like the first stage in what is going to be a long and drawn-out need for a new generation of Steam Deck sooner rather than later.
Not really the type of games I enjoy playing on the Deck anyway.
Lately I’ve been playing a ton of stuff like FF7 Remake, Crisis Core, Super Woden GP
Also, I have a PS5 and that’s just a better spot to play a game like Horizon
Also, Dragons Dogma runs like shit on everything so it’s not an issue inherent to the Steam Deck
Steam Deck Competitor is DoA
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Mysten Labs announced that it is working with open operating system company Playtron to launch an open gaming handheld with multiple game stores, from Sui Web3 games to the Epic Games Store.
PlaytronOS, which will be compatible with various hardware configurations. Playtron is building an ecosystem much like Android, the open mobile and PC operating system. It is an open operating system across multiple devices and multiple companies, said Kirt McMaster, CEO of Playtron, in an interview with GamesBeat.
“We’re building a new gaming operating system right to open up the PC. Effectively, we’re attempting to extract the PC gaming ecosystem from Windows and recontextualize in our own operating system,” McMaster said. “That gives users the access to all of the stores, Steam, Epic Games Store, Gog, etc. But all in a single launcher. You can sign in with your Steam account. You can sign in with your Epic Games account. All your games will appear in a single launcher. They’ll work in a single operating system.”
Fallout 4 will be Deck Verified
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So sick of PC and consoles getting unfinished games. Why do we tolerate it? Would you buy a car if the brakes came a month later? No other product pulls that kinda crap. But gamers defend it. Why?
Preach! I've been catching up on older games just because I know they're stable, cheaper and enjoyable. Also, why are we paying $70 for unfinished games at that? Something is definitely wrong.
Part of the reason I don't buy games at launch. Wait a couple of months for them to sort out the code and for the game to go on sale.
Maybe if we all stop buying these buggy messes of games at launch they might realise they need to finish the game before they put them on sale but if we keep buying them or worse pre ordering they'll keep doing what they are doing
True, i remember back in time where you would pay 40/50€ for a finished game and dlc would be free stuff. And how games are not optimize for nowadays consoles. Ps3 had 512mb of TOTAL RAM, and only 256 would be for gaming, and that shit would run massive games, yeah the apu was a hell of a apu but
You gonna tell me we dont have the same capable apu to run good games? Developers and company are getting greedy. Thats why i only buy games after atleast 6 to 12 months and on sale. Games nowadays are not worth the full price. Look at switch games from their first party company, the exclusives, running on the low powered switch, There is no excuse.
@@Pegaroo_Nobody should buy, at least AAA, games at release...
These idiots keep pre ordering games. I want to play DD2 pretty bad but I won't buy it until they fix it. Easy as that.
It was always going to be the case. The Steam Deck is a 400USD handheld, its not "getting left behind" its "the laws of physics exist". If someone bought the SD and thought that it would be able to run 2024 AAA games with awful CPU optimization even on desktop-grade CPUs (consoles) then that is not the device's fault lol.
Here’s the thing tho there are modern AAA games that run 720p to 800p 60fps like resident evil 8, halo infinite, re 2 remake, re 4 remake, cyber punk 2077 etc. if a new game can’t it’s the optimization of the devs that suck. It’s not the deck getting left behind, it’s devs getting lazy. Same argument goes for Xbox series s and lesser gpu cards
Preach. @@kennypowers1945
Deck is still trash though, i rather save up an extra 200$ and play all my games on a handheld that was made for more intensive situations
@BrandonHolly-hv3lu calling something that can play 90% of all games on the go, while being the best console like experience... that's ignorant asf, these windows handhelds can't compete with the ease of use of the steam deck, I rather not get forced updates and a buggy OS... your batshit my dude.
@JDabz96 most of the games on steams platform is unplayable on steam deck. At least rog ally can be docked with better wattage, resulting in amoother frame rates and gameplay over all. If i can barely play a game that came out years ago for like 2 more hours compared to playing the game perfectly for a little over an hour until i have to dock it and then it plays even better I'll get the rog ally. Ive had both actually until i sold them to get a pc. Sold the deck for well under market value. I had people literally trying to trade me steam decks for the rog ally with cash on top. The market speaks for itself.
Playtron is a Linux fork from Fedora I believe. There is no such thing as a Windows fork. Microsoft would never allow modifications to Windows. What’s worse is they’re going to be banking on the work Valve has done to Linux gaming.
All of valves linux work is open source. And allowed to be used by anyone. Bazzite currently is the best unofficial steamos we have. And if theres better options down the road itll be good for everyone
@@whiskytangofoxtrot_ Yeah that’s true, Playtron can do as they wish with it being open source.
I'm guessing it's this sentence that he took *literally*: "Playtron extracts the gaming ecosystem from Windows and leaves everything else behind."
Just a guess
If you have an android phone the save files for Final Fantasy VII are accessible. The Steam version is compatible with those save files if you convert them with Black Chocobo.
I haven't had issues running Horizon Forbidden West at 30 FPS on Deck. Maybe im not far enough in yet but it runs the opening sequences just fine
You know what I think is funny? I have a ps5 and a steam deck. I have chiaki so I can stream my ps5 games to my steam deck with no problem, but I still tend to get the steam version and play the ps5 games on my steam deck with the steam deck graphics. Is that weird? 🤣🤔 I can't help it!
Forbidden west runs okay on the steam deck if you adjust the settings. Just cap it at 30fps, set everything to low, textures to medium, turn of motion blur, set fsr2 to dynamic with 30fps as target. And thats it. It is playable. Obviously dosnt look as good as high settings but plays well enough to be enjoyable, even in fighting situations in the game.
So I have had sort of an interesting experience/relationship with my SD. I am coming back to it after having fixed it with some updated bios that was never there available before (November) when my console screen was all black. Anyway. That was an exciting thing to discover and to get my handheld BACK basically. I'm trying my best these days to not bog down my 64gb deck and to play what can be played! I have been tinkered more than I've played an actual game on my deck (looking at you Deathloop).
And this has been working out for the best! There has obviously been a massive improvement to the deck, and it happens month by month, uodate after update! I do realize that proton ge is something that is available and not even a official steam legwork, and yet those independent efforts are really helping to keep this console pushing it's potential.
So personally, I'm stoked for what the deck CAN DO. And I'm feeling even more understanding of what it cant.
Hi FI Rush, Doom, Death Stranding. Also- Emulation with hardly any tinkering required! All amazing reasons why I love this thing. But mainly, I own it for the steam games. Too many other decent handhelds that can handle ps2 and down (which is pretty much all i care about). N64, Dreamcast, ps1, pico 8, all platforms I love. Dreamcast and PS2 probably the most, then Wii, then N64 and so on. I recommend grabbing a homebrewed new 3ds xl for those 3ds games and dsi xl for your ds game needs. Something might top the original hardware in the near future, but for now those handhelds do phenomenal jobs like they were born to do. 💪
To save some space (even mental space) for my deck i think ill do my best to play the oldest emulation stuff on something like original hardware or retroid pocket 2s. Trim ui smart pro looks like a fantastic option too for the budget friendly emulation crowd. Then the retroid pocket 4 pro, then the Odin 2. I want me an Odin 2!
One thing I have liked is that kernel updates and driver updates to 24.1 yield some mild performance improvements, such improvements improved optimized shader routines for FSR2/3 and improved RT support. Control in particular has yielded noticeable improvements with RT on. still will burn your battery even if they ever get Control w/ RT at 40 fps. seems like the deck is more suited to mild RT stuf like shadows and Reflections. I expect with FSR 3.1 Returnal could perform very well, Xess 1.3 also is getting massive improvements.
Doing a cardio machine works good with the switch or legion with detached controllers I do that a lot.
Exactly. These publications don't understand that the Steam Deck is a handheld PC and not a console... It's not like games that come out ONLY on Switch and can't run well. It's not built for every game to run well, games should be built to run well on it (and other older/lower end hardware). Developers for the most part aren't making games FOR the Steam Deck and that's hard to understand for a very console-centric news media.
yeah these handheld pcs are low end laptops without the clamshell form factor + keyboard.That's it. I just hope that capcom can fix DD2 so i can play it on Deck.
People are tripping over Steamdeck not keeping up, meanwhile my SD Oled is killing my backlog and I am happy! Had 40 games in my backlog, now it’s only 10 💪🏻
Only 40?
@@GamingDadI was baffled myself.
@@GamingDad I hopped on the PC train only a few years ago. I was on console before.
@@Fujikawa-hw6ij I was teasing :), tbh I have 20 years of backlog on my steam account, so the comparison isn't that fair :p.
@@GamingDad yeah I kept up when I only played on Xbox and PlayStations. Those damn steam sales though 😅
I'm replaying the Batman Arkham series on Steam Deck. I was expecting them to feel dated, but I'm up to Arkham City and I've been having an absolute blast. Asylum and City run beautifully on lower TDP, haven't tried any others yet.
Love the steam deck news in the morning… despite not owning one myself yet asdfghjkl 😭
The ally with the full 780m gpu driver that enables fluid motion frames if freaking phenomenal.
I have a Steam Deck and a Legion Go. The SD was my go-to, but recently, games that were SD verified aren't functioning on my SD. I mean games like Witcher 3 and Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen. I have zero issues getting games running my Legion Go.
Steam deck is good enough to play any well optimized game. If it's not, then that's the game's fault.
Honestly, I feel bad for players who want great graphics and are getting 'meh' graphics with crap performance.
It's just not worth it.
People just complain too much. I think playing ps4 type games on the go with good to great quality and amazing battery life is amazing
Thats wild thats like saying "if i cant play this graphically intensive game its not the weak hardware thats the issue, its bc the developers didnt make this game playable on a potato." You steam deck fan boys are a trip once upon a time people just upgraded their graphics cards and what not to play a intensive game, now its just 100% always the developer
Hopefully you can make a video about that.New tablet from minisforum
Yeaaaah, it's always been my dream to go to the gym, do workouts while playing final fantasy 7
Man I’ve been feeling this lately as a steam deck owner only at the moment. I can’t okay things like “the finals” and “warzone” because of the anti cheat bs. Then I have had the problem of games not running well like baldirs gate 3, Detroit become human, and a small few others. Other than that it’s been great
So seeing that you are a pretty big fan of both FF7 and, obviously, the Steam Deck, would you or anyone else think that a FF7 Rebirth PC port is a likely good idea to try out on the SD, or not so good?
Immortals of Aveum wouldn't run on Deck at more than 24 fps. They added FSR3 and A.I. Frame generation. Now it runs at 60+. Also, Dragon's Dogma 2 is on Geforce Now, so you can play on max setting on the Deck.
What’s the resolution with FS3? 540p?
Your calorie burning tip is the biggest underrated side quest in this video. 💪
Hey Jimmy, i am looking to buy a handheld, but cant decide on which to purchase, i like retro games/ AAA games and i also own an xbox series s, do i go for a windows hand held to utilise all, or would a steam deck be suffice? pro's and cons?
AAA gaming is mostly better on Windows, because the publishers regularly break the Linux compatibility of their launchers.
You can stream the games from PC through moonlight and sunshine better than nothing, but I actually think they should have beefed up the OLED model or just release Steamdeck 2. It needs some version of DLSS or newer FSR because the one in it currently isn’t great.
Deck being left behind is a matter of time and I'm OK with that. It's an amazing handheld for older games and I don't need it to run all the latest games (luckily, I have a desktop PC for those). That said even my desktop would have issues with some of the unoptimised new releases lol
DD 2 through GFN subscription is worth it on deck especially if ur a dd fan only 10 a month
I have the SD Oled and its hardware in undoubtedly underpowered for most of the new games. But it is perfect for everything which is older or fon indie and light games.
Like Persona 5 is a dream on it.
I also have the Ally but I’m just playing Horizon FW on my rig at 4K HDR and it’s a blast.
These big games with great graphics are sacrificed on these small handled, even with moonlight.
Fork is very specific thing so to be more technical correct it would be better to say modified Windows. Unless they somehow actually got Windows source code to fork (but then Microsoft would sue them for copyright violation).
What part of horizon is that? I dont remember that mission
Stem deck to good to be left behind BUT more and more competition will come and some of them are actually pretty good but valve will always have great support
The same was said about so many games, they are not optimized at launch at all anymore, just that
If after 1 year (yeah, I know, waiting is not a good thing but still is not hardware fault) the game is still bad is unlikely that it will be fixed and then I consider it a problem
Said this I still hope that Valve launch Steam Deck 2 with the next gen of GPUs (RDNA 3+), 24 GB of RAM and Zen 3+ at least, I think it would be enough until 2028 and is a good timing for handheld PCs
It's crazy like all the games out there the steam deck can't run maybe 3% of the games out there but can run the rest 97% games out there, even new games other then a few case.
Do we know if we’ll lose our save data with this new Fallout 4 update?
I play horizon on the deck fsr hits the quality hard so I do native res with taa 30 fps low. It does dip some of the areas just too heavy. My legion bro fares better medium settings 800 p unlocked between 30 to 45
is your name a reference to the bloodhound gang? jimmy champagne and jimmy pop?
Nah it's gotta be for Jimmy Urine of Mindless Self Indulgence. :P
No it’s my actual name lol
@@DeckReady haha word.
So my wife just bought a deck, and I have a huge Xbox library. So I bought the G-Cloud, and GeForce and I'm loving it so far, as a mobile device although the multi day updates, is incredibly annoying.
So you have to be an overlord to expect an asset you just purchased to be an asset in your business endeavors. 😂
It’s interesting that forbidden west struggles since it was also on ps4
Software devs aren’t what they used to be. No fundamental understanding of what’s happening under the hood.
My PC died. Now the only games worth buying are ones that run on my Steam Deck.
I looked it up, the blockchain connection seems to only be integration with crypto wallets if you play crypto games that let you play to earn. If that ends up being all it's not a big deal.
Right. Cuz how else you gunna collect your crypto?! Probably something like metamask, browser extension wallets, the same one you'd want to use for 'airdrops'. 👍
Do you know how to make Jedi survivor work on steam deck
This game as major stuttering issues, even on high end pcs at 100fps+. It's just a bad console port, unfortunately. There is not much you can do, except hope for a futur game patch that will solve these issues.
Forza 5 is kinda jiggly when I play it on my deck.
What's some good mobile games to play on the treadmill?
Fallout Shelter, They Are Coming, all of the final fantasy games
I'm all in for mods which is why my ps5 has been collecting dust i haven't played one game on it since i got it. mods fix all the censorship
Agree many console players still don't see a value pc I never understood there mindset besides they just dong want to learn something new... just like apple users
@@TheDragonfriday correct
That’s not necessarily the reason, for some people technology is just the tool to consume content, not the fun itself, so they don’t care to tinker with tech stuff for fun to enhance their experience. They just consume it as is and move on to the next thing
I indeed think the Steam Deck falls off lately. I got a white shell swapped SD LCD for 14months and it was fine. But 4 months ago I got an ROG Ally and it is so much faster. Sure battery is trash but I don’t care. I just wanna play on my couch that’s all. Only thing SD is better at was PS5 remote play. But that’s it.
Playing through Horizon Forbidden West right now on PC/Deck and 30plus hours in and it is by far one of the most boring games I've played in a while. Looks beautiful but doesn't have much substance after that.
someone send me that forbiden west article when its out
Dragons dogma 2 is over hyped, over priced trash that people are struggling to run on pc and is max 30fps on consoles. 😩
Fallout 4 like $5 on fanatical right now. 👍👍👍👍
It's free on Fitgirl.
Man youre like gasping for air you ok?
I think the gaming media doesn't get it, gamers like the Steam Deck and the Steam Deck isn't the only way we have to play games. Gamers are flexible, we may play a game in one box, and another in another box, perhaps another even on the cloud. The Steam Deck is part of an overall gaming space that's complimentary and not exclusionary.
CZcams would have you believe there are console wars, and rivalries and people put all their eggs in one basket. But that's not the case in real life. Gamers largely feel no loyalty to any given platform, they just want to play games.
I don't get it, these games are built on PC architecture to be able to run on consoles I don't understand why it cannot be scaled back to run on the steam deck??????
I wonder if topspin 2k25 will be verified. I’m considering getting it to play on my desktop and deck.
What people do not seem to grasp is every AAA game that’s difficult to run on deck is also difficult on every other handheld needing lower resolutions and lower settings and often still not getting anywhere near 60fps. These are handhelds, if you complain about the latest graphics heavy games being difficult to run then you are just doing it all wrong. Go and discover emulation, go and look at the thousands of indie games that are often better than AAA games and leave the graphics showcases for the systems they are designed for which is absolutely not low end power restricted lethargic handhelds.
Fallout show does not retcon anything.
Hasn't anyone ever told you that IPhones suck?
What's?? Lol, oh, the delusion. Hopefully, you're joking.
@@nasheemwhye5197I never joke. It is my opinion. Only Apple thing I have ever owned was a video ipod.
@@JLary71377 That's good 👍
playtron is linux.... not a "fork of windows"
Windows can only be forked by Microsoft.
If the devs took the care to make a version optimized for the Steam deck, there wouldn't be problems. And not every game belongs on the deck either.
Luckily I just don't care about AAA gaming anymore.
These are a lot of big words for me, I think I'll stick to the 3DS.
I'm sorry the ROG Ali is a Microsoft Windows device ASUS can keep their pizzagate spyware .
Uhhhhh Horizon runs well on the Steam Deck. You can tweak settings and get 30 fps solid or 40 fps with dips. DD2 is just trash port.
Funny how horizon is toooo big of a game to want to play on deck but then continues to say the deck is one of the best places to play Elden ring 🤔
Do you have a Xbox channel
No my friend Ray does
Lol sorry to break it to you but you are not burning 700 calories in 1 hour of walking on a treadmill even on an incline. The machine may be telling you that, but that is absolutely not possible unless you were morbidly obese to begin with. A normal size person would have to run at around a 8-minute pace to burn 700 calories an hour. A brisk walk only burns about 40 calories per mile.
Great experiance on a PlayStation. lol Stop joking.
It’s not necessarily the decks fault that new games are fucking horribly programmed, you can barely run stuff like dragons dogma on a top of the line desktop pc, so tbh it’s just not fair. If the game is properly made it’ll probably be fine. Look at lies of p, look at the Sony ports, and there’s plenty of others too. They all run great on deck.
Well I play forbidden west on my 55 inch 120 hertz TV which is my PCs 2nd screen and I live in a studio flat so works for me and I get way more than 60fps at probably better graphics. But each to their own. Oh and way cheaper and get all the DLC. Way way cheaper in fact as cheap as you want.
It does matter, that's why I went with Legion Go since launch, that Oled is a gimme, windows is crushing it when it comes to play the harder to deal with games that steam deck can't run, time for Steam Deck 2 to launch
Is it bad that SD can't run this game?
No because it's available on other machines that can run it. ????
It literal says this on the Playtron website: Linux based gaming OS… where did you find an info it is an fork of windows ? Microsoft would sue you to hell and will never allow such a thing especially there is nothing open source. It’s false information you are spreading here
Would you please slow down. You talk to damn fast!
The fallout show didn’t retcon anything, they debunked that.
If you bought the Steam Deck to play current PC AAA games then you bought the wrong device. There's a reason why GPU's update every few years. Game engines are always evolving.
That said I'm not sure why people get upset if there are people who want an updated Steam deck. YOU can keep your old Steam Deck while new people can benefit from the increased power. At this point unless you want to play older games there's no point buying one.
All the deck OLED needed was USB4 support and people could have plugged in their own GPU's giving the deck a lot more power, but nope we'll have to wait for the next version now.
if you are looking to lose weight quick skip the gym. do intermittent fasting and keto.
ive lost 30 lbs in 3 months and i don't have to do anything.
Fasting can be dangerous.... best talk doctor before doing it
@@TheDragonfriday not true.
humans have been fasting for 1000's of years before dr's were even a thing...
That’s awesome. I’m pretty committed to muscle building but if I was just trying to get thin I would definitely consider it
@@DeckReady ah fair enough, ultimately doing anything to try and be healthy is better that not trying at all.
best of luck to you!