Building A Room On A Garage - Extension #27
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- How do you build a room on top of a garage? James, Ian and Roger move to the other end of the house for this building challenge in the first part of 'how to build a bedroom on top of your garage'.
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It’s amazing that these videos are free to watch! Skill builder is such a useful Chanel and a real delight!! Thank you for taking the time to edit and upload them! 👍🏼🤙🏼💪🏼
Love how James is always thinking ahead . Shame more people aren’t like him , this industry would be a whole lot better 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
I think that's because he does it all. He understands how things need to be for the next person on the job.
Thanks guys.
Nothing wrong with doncaster😂lived here all my life👍
You guys get on great together, always makes a good video. James is the kinda guy I'd love to work with, seems a genuinely nice bloke 👍🏻
James is always thinking ahead, shows the level of a true quality craftsman. Looking forward to the futures videos to come on this project.
Skill Builder = Brilliant, James = Brilliant, which makes for...another...brilliant video. Thanks Roger and James.👍👍👍
Two blokes just chewing the fat on a Friday.👍👍👍. Great explanation by James on how to do joinery.
Excellent episode guys, and possibly my all time favourite “where’s James”. Great to see you and Dylan supporting James with the festool too. Keep up the great work guys
Quite right James when I was in Canada we always set up wall on centre for exterior osb board on corner junction we did what was called a California corner like I think your describing with a stud turned sideways to take plasterboard on internal wall then there was only one short cut of plasterboard after that they all fell on centre 👍
funny bit is you get a laugh from when James pops his head up”alright mate”, lol
It is strangely childish repeating the same joke over and over again and still finding it amusing.
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We’re all kids at heart Roger.
It makes me smile every time too.
"I'm a reconstructed man..." Lol
James's new haircut..post lockdown flavours.
It's always great content when a 'King Build' is published. Keep up the good work all!
I also go for Forgefast first. ;-)
"Liquid gold" 🤣 made me chuckle !!
Lovely work gents! Lovely saw too! Can’t beat Green and Black!!!!
Could listen to you pair all day
Another great video fellas. It's great seeing how u guys go about it over there.
Ryan, Australia 👍
turn up on my job and hand me a kapex please Rog :) great video guys
Tidy work. Good to see. I burned out a Kapex cutting framing timber- after an expensive rebuild I keep it for 2nd fix, Got the cordless hikoki for framing
I would like to see a video where a dormer window is started from scratch, on an existing tile or slate roof 👍
We will do that, we have a couple coming up in a few weeks time.
Nice work James, Nice to see you had a labourer to help you. Mind he talks more than he worls. LoL
Excellent video as always 👍
Cracking effort lads 👍 cheers from Australia
Nice video guys keep up good work!!!
Love this series, thanks chaps for sharing 👌🏻
James's New Saw Is Very Nice 👍
You've got to change the introduction to "Where's that clever lad James" Who wouldn't employ this guys !!!
Cracking job James and a great video, really enjoyed the banta.
Great time lapse shots 👌👌
Great video Lads! Enjoyed it thoroughly.
It’s like a mini version of the crazy framer that guy can get some studding done in a day
James is a skilled chap and comes across really well in this video. You both work very well and a very good video production too - very watchable, although James fondling the Festool was a bit suggestive.😀👍
As soon as I saw the "weird" materials & the excessive guardrails on the scaffolding, I knew I left American soil 😂
Nice saw James.😉.
I saw you using one and I just had to have one!
Great video Guys..........thanks
Good video, you should do a video with some joiners from up my next of the woods, northeast of Scotland and see how they do the timber kit construction, been common here since the 80s and there are some real beasts who are doing and make it look easy, not saying you guys don't though 😊, you'd never see them screwed together up here though, lots of Bang bang squads 😁
Lovely work and lovely video
Regards
Faruk
Leave a longer ending so we can have time to like your videos 👍
Lovely work👌🏽 I wish Roger was my best mate, I would also get some lovely new tools 🛠
Excellent video as always !
What is the estimate cost to build a room like this on top of garage? Thanks.
another great vid looking forward too this build
Hi, Great content as always. Im sure its an educated decision but would be interested to know the reasoning behind not just using 90mm nails for stud-work? Thanks again, love the channel and always learning from you guys
Thanks Zack,
One of the main reasons we went for screws in this situation was because we built them on the floor and then lifted them up and due to the weight of each section if we were to nail it only then it’s likely that the nails would pull out here and there and then we would have to spend time checking it all over and possibly re fixing some parts. With the screws it’s a little more expensive and the initial process takes slightly longer but we know that when it has been stood in position it is 100% accurate.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply James. Interesting to get your perspective. Top class work mate
Thanks for yet another great video. The banter and humour make it all the better. What is the music called that starts at 15:36.
The best I ever had by Victoriya
@@andycrask3531 Thanks for that Andy much appreciated.
What was the ground floor garage construction? Single skin, double skin or cavity wall?
It is single skin with piers every 1.8M.
@@jimichip Thanks for taking the time to answer :)
Great video guys, first class as always..........now to scroll and read the stupid comments 😂😂😂
What a cracking saw! When can I jump on it, and start cutting away?
How thick were the original garage walls? Nine inch or cavity or 4.5" with piers?
4.5” with piers.
It's a good thing the original garage was over engineered by just enough to enable this project. You have to praise them for that at least. If you measured it all up and the structure isn't enough, well, at that point your screwed.
What you should do is put a California corner in the stud work u can put insulation in after and will have backing for a slab aswell .. its always easier to cut slab than ply or osb. Also you should use nails instead of screws.. screws shear off nails don t.. unless they are proper lag screws
DJ Hago
We agree about some screws snapping under shear loads but not these babies. They are Forgefast and you will not snap them like you can an ordinary screw. Thanks for the tip.
@@SkillBuilder expensive though
@@djhago3123 Not so much but more than nails for sure. We use a lot of nails but as James explained, in this one it makes sense to pull the whole thing in with screws. Maybe a combination of the two would have been good but that wall is there to stay.
@@SkillBuilder if every lad took the attention to detail of james things would be alot better.. im second flooring and second fixing a house that was gutted.. and they put false frames in arseways for plastering and there isn't one of the styles parallel with each other.. and floors and walls all over the place.. makes my work alot harder
Great video again.. after bedding on, how did you fix the wall plate to the wall without affecting the room underneath, ie straps , fixings? Cheers
We’ve strapped the plate down with bat straps externally and then the render carrier board will be continued from the timber frame down over the brick building as it is only rendered single skin brick work which has been prone to moisture ingress in the past so we’re trying to eradicate that with the render carrier board and silicone render covering the lot.
@@jimichip always one step ahead. Great work mate
James was stroking that new saw a bit too much 🤣
Nothing wrong with stroking your tool.
Great video Roger/ James, could you have not put the render boards on when the panels where laying down? It was something we use to do making it easier later on.
It would take some lifting because those render boards are 40 kilos each and the boards need to be staggered across the studs in a half bond.
Will you continue the wall framing adjacent to the wall of the original house? Or does that original wall effectively become the wall of the new room too? Guess all will become clear on next video :-)
When you set out for 1200s and have imperial Osb.
Would be nice to have a few more tips in there. How did you fix the sole plate to the wall plate?
Great video as always! Can I just ask what the music is during the time lapse at the end?
Top work as always, 👍💪🏼
Ah yes the ol days. Pub at lunch, loads of ciggies, torrents of abuse, no safety gear and an attitude to match. I don’t miss them.
thank you for your service sir
My wife told me, she loved being wolf whistled as a young woman!
I do wonder about that. You see women who have gone to a lot of trouble to make themselves look attractive and because we have now been castrated we can't show any appreciation. Back in the late sixities everyone seemed to enjoy the innocent fun of it all, now they are claiming it traumatises them. I don't know but I feel sorry for young guys now because they don't know what is appropriate.
@@SkillBuilder Young women should enjoy the attention they get from men because after they hit the wall they are invisible to us. Women complain about men objectifying them but look at what they are doing on the internet. If modern women didn't have double standards then they wouldn't have any standards at all, 👍 🔨 🇮🇪
great workmaship, love all the tips, etc, by the way, what was the soundtrack at the end of the video, really nice arrangment, compliments what you guys did. on the framework.:) regards Graham
Why were the Caberdek panel edges taped and not glued as previously?
Amazing work, how much did you guys charge for the works?
Good video. Was that timber c24 or c16 grade?
Thanks Asif, it’s C24.
Is the top extension not built with a cavity?
Great video👍
Question: how do you weather seal between the wall frame and main building?
Do you need permit from your city to build room on a garage
i remember thinking about a job going past a speed camera that cost me
I have done that and banged the brakes on at the last minute and some poor guy behind nearly has a heart attack.
I thought just the same as you Roger about the spacing. That's twice I've thought the same as you now... Dad?
Incidentally, can someone tell me if we need planning permission for this?
I guess, regardless, one still needs to have building control?
Thanks. God Bless.
Do you need planning permission for this? I have a breeze block garage and kitchen side extension like this. I wonder if it could hold building a long room on top? I guess I need to get in a builder to have a look
I'd be interested to know the construction of the garage walls please. Are they 100mm block with piers every so often, standard cavity wall construction etc? Also, what provides the timber frame walls with their racking resistance if you aren't using OSB or plywood sheathing? I've not seen render carrier board used as sheathing for racking resistance before. Maybe all will become clear in later vids. Cheers guys
Hi Steve
This is a heavy duty reinforced board that was specified for the racking resistance. The thinner stuff is no good unless the walls are lined on the inside with OSB and then plasterboard. The EWI store has all the tech specifications The following is from their website.
Many of the boards can be used as sheathing boards. Some manufactures such as RCM have different boards for different applications, while others only offer a cement board for sheathing application.
These differences occur because some boards are tested for racking strength, some are tested for the use of thin coat render systems and some are tested for both. Using insulation on sheathing boards means an insulation material such as Mineral Wool has been installed onto a suitable sheathing board.
These systems are normally found installed on non-traditional substrates like metal frame or wooden frame buildings. The cement board is installed onto the non-traditional structure using the appropriate fixing method. Once the boards are secured, the insulation system can be applied to this substrate. The insulation boards are securely fixed to the sheathing board (in keeping with the manufacturer’s fixing pattern) using mechanical fixings and adhesive.
The sub walls are 100mm brick with piers every 1.8M.
We wish to build a similar bedroom over our double garage. How can we contact you?
ok what type + size FORGEFAST screws did you use on the 6 x 2 ?? + are they really that good ?
Often screws are brittle and snap which makes them unsuitable for construction jobs but Forgefast screws are hard to snap. We have tried and failed.
@@SkillBuilder but not in our local screwfix, so I use Turbo 2 TX very good screws
I use forgefast torx screws, really good value and much better than crappy old pozy drives.
Forge fast are amazing, started using them after seeing James using them, the difference is instantly noticeable especially on the 90mm into studs, I don’t buy anything else now
5 x 100 mm. Or #10 x 4 in.
Do you mesh the render carrier boards? Those boards are so smooth, the thought of rendering on them with no mesh gives me nightmares; big slabs of render falling off. The last loft conversion I did I meshed it with SS mesh with an air gap behind the board, breathable felt, osb, timber and so on..
Cheers lads
It is a very thin silicone render not a traditional sand and cement. In essence it is more like paint with a glass fibre mesh embedded in it
@@SkillBuilder it doesn’t fill me with confidence given the movement that will occur between one cement board join and another in a swelling and shrinking structure.
@@gdfggggg i dunno if it's the correct way but ive always polybonded then scrimed the joints
What sort of costs are you looking at here?
Roger you've finally been domesticated 🤣
And now it's the girls cat whistling at you😇
I used to think girls were whistling at me then I discovered it was tinitus.
@@SkillBuilder when you start thinking you're hearing their voices you know you have a problem 😅
Why do you need to tape the joints on the chip board?
( caperdeck)
Continuous vapour barrier I expect.
Barry Doherty
The joints on the last job were the weak point with some of the adhesive being kicked off so James decided to tape over the glued joints for extra protection. As it turned out the floor was in the dry before the rain came. The thing is, you never know what the weather will do and James is all about the belt and braces approach. A big of duct tape is not going to break the bank.
Why screws and not nails?
Is this the same house that has been featured for the last few months, or a different property?
Different, this one is an existing garage with a new timber frame built on top. The other one is all new top to bottom, brick built.
It’s the same house, we’re at the other end of it now.
This video is a rush job. Needs to provide a lot more detail
Oh pardon us sir it was furthest from our mind.
Another great video lads, who's the artist in the music at the end of the video?
I want to konw to was good was feeling that tune!
Would the rockwall sweat underneath flooring and cause condensation perhaps ?
No the condensation will form on the cold side of the insulation but in this case the room above is heated. That lead roof also makes a good vapour barrier.
I use Arnold Laver. Customer service is second to none and they always seem to have stock in like you have said
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Good job!
Whats the song on 16:30?
Do you need building permission ?
It depends on the size, position and distance from the boundary. It is always best to ask.
It will either be permitted development or planning permission. Whichever one it is you’ll need to notify the relevant authorities.
Did they check the depth of the foundation? Absolutely nobody digs deeper than necessary when doing foundation
Does anyone cut a noggin and just use that to space your studs????
555
New game, where's ian
Same game, I think Ian was off climbing a mountain or something that day.
You have a short memory. He went to see the Inlaws in Doncaster.
@@SkillBuilder oh yeah, I’m glad you’re here or I’d forget where I’m working.
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Stakker has only gawn and dun it again....FIRST !!!
Aren’t you over in Japan collecting golds too 👍😂💪