Wind Turbine Brake Switch, for about $20
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I don't know if you get notifications for new comments on old videos. But I very much appreciate your videos, I've watched a few now and I'm going to subscribe. Much appreciated truly. You explain things very simply and show me every step of the way.
Hey man, i don't intend on making my own switch, i just got a wind turbine and it came with a Break Switch included and the mppt too, and the break switch was confusing me because, how does it work? and your explanation/demonstration made it very clear and easy to understant, so thank you for the information! i was expecting a break to be something physical that locks the fan but the short circuit locks the motor in place and makes a lot of sense!
Thanks! From a fellow Texan...I keep learning so much from your videos. You explain it so even a person of limited knowledge can understand.
Awesome, thank you!
Thank you for such detailed guidance on this solar stuff !
Glad it was helpful!
Bought one of the TaoTronics A/Cs and liked it so much as to order a second one. An added bonus is that it's not so heavy it can't be handled by one person.
We were bound really bad with medical bills for my wife, but as I clear them some more I plan to get the rest of mine I need. It's easier to buy them instead of more solar, wind, batteries and controllers to handle the old style AC units.
Thanks john for the brake switch video
Will be making one soon
Very very nice 👌! Thanks for sharing the best parts I need for the wind generationtor
Trying to make sure everybody that can do this does it the right way.
Very helpful, thanks for posting!
Was waiting for your videos 👆
Great learning video Ty John
Glad it was helpful!
You can use a wi fi switch on a 3 pole relay and turn on/off from phone also
Another great video
Thanks!
your not getting too old youve got some miles in ya yet, those little turbines amaze me for such low rpms. one guy who easily has more brains than me which isnt hard reckons a stator will heat up and even burn if the blades are huge enough and the wind strong enough when doing a dump/brake to wire wound resistors no battery hook up, i dont know how true that is but i guess some temp sensors on the windings would soon teach me .
They will burn up if you try to go past their designed abilities.
Hope your feeling better these dsys.
Is this brake used instead of the blade switch - different uses - diversion vs braking?
I have been watching your videos for about 3 years or so and first thank you for making all the videos gotta love the knowledge. But I have always wondered what do you use to track your wind and weather? Could you make a video about that for us please.
Look up: Ambient Weather stations and tracking. And yes pretty soon I'll have my system all back up with a new monitoring outfit the old one took a beating moving back down here in the truck.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Thank you for the information and thank you for taking the time to respond.
The one we had, and are buying the repair parts for since they got busted in moving is the WS-2902C amzn.to/3STwOtA and you can add it to Weather Underground or msn weather ( www.msn.com/en-us/weather )
or ( www.weatherunderground.com
) as a local reporting system off your internet.
I cannot go to my camp for 8 months during the year. I understand the best way to secure the turbine is to follow your set-up in this video: "Wind Turbine Brake & Safety Controls". I have 3 resistors 300 watts for diversion load. I will connect the outputs of the resistors to the controller I received with the turbine.
Maybe sell n buy closer
If Rectifiers convert the voltage from 24~ to 12, Could you use a Rectifier instead of a Buck Converter and vice versa?
No, it does not work like that. Rectifier converts AC to DC, buck and boost converters change voltage.
Ahoy! Central Texas here. Great info, thanks a bunch. What make and model is that air conditioner unit on your bench?
Complete run down on it, czcams.com/video/JS_d1lCCcgM/video.html
Brother John! Good to see ya... when I come to your area , I'll take yall out to eat
I hate restaurants! But, that ain't saying we can't all go to our church for a big cookout.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Amen!!!!!!!!!!!
Where can I buy your controller and can you so a video on it. I didn't see it on your mydcvolts page or olympic power controls which went to mydcvolts
Hi,John. Great video! Hope you're well. How's the JS2000 project going? I didn't receive your email.
Nice info !!!!!!
Have you ever tried a 3ph contactor like the ones AC units have, with a 12vdc coil , then use it for the brake? You could probably find some way to automate the coil using a programmed VSR when your batteries are full or wind is too fast.
Yes, they tend to get cycled far too much and a 12 volt coil is rare to find. The majority are 24 volt. A 3 phase SSR works much better. It has a trigger voltage of 5 to 32 vdc.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 do you still need a manual switch for the SSR? Oh thats what that controller you mentioned earlier was for.
@@codiecarroll735 The controller sends a 12 volt signal that trips the 3 phase SSR
I seen a few of your videos about a year ago you said something about insted of using holm resitors to turn the over flow power into heated air you was going to use a water heating elament. Did you ever make that video? If so i would like to see how it turned out im doing something like that myself. As im also using this breaking system you showed in this video i just have to water proof the switch as it will be outside in the elaments.
You can do this with excess wind and full loaded solar during the day as well using the right controllers. I have a 8 gallon Vevor water heater sitting waiting on my time to do it to make a pre main tank heater system. I just have had a rough year in health and cash flow.
John have you got a video that shows how to set up the battery master slave system?
Not Yet, I have shown over the years the methods, but due to a little out of the way cost I have not yet funded a complete one in my new system. In Idaho I had it but did not make much on it but now with Lithium getting actually affordable it may be a a needed video. A Battery slave system is using a few batteries as incoming wind power diffusers and not your main bank so you can best moderate the effect in a tuned way. It extends the entire battery banks lifespan. With LiFePO4 you can use lead acid slaves in a 24 volt arrangement to pass through charge a banks of 12 volt LiFePO4 via cheap PWM solar controllers. I will have to make a example of it soon.
@1JOHNDANIEL Maybe I passed it but I can't find the link to the meter you are using that reads the amperage.
Scroll through the links below the video, It should be listed there.
Super
John I see what you are doing. Will this work from lead acid to Lifepo4 to charge the Lifepo4?
Yes
Hello, nice video, it seems that the black microcontroller have already an auto braking system, why building another breaking system ?
It's not a brake, it's a over speed pulse lock up so it's real abusive to the turbine.
Great video, thanks lots.
I have a rookie question, though. What actually happens with solar / wind power, when the batteries are fully charged? Is there danger of overcharging the batteries or is that electricity "magically" going to waste?
Sorry, if that is a dumb question. I just simply understand far too little about the topic.
With solar the controller will simply stop charging the battery.
With wind once you reach a certain voltage you switch to a dump load like a heating element or a brake like the switch where the wires are simply shorted until the voltage of the battery drops back down to less than fully charged.
The wise decision in that is to use an alternative collection instead of just burning off the energy. One of the ways that I've solved it is to use a few hundred amp hours of lithium and then return that charge to my lead acid in the middle of the night. Recent videos describe that on my channel.
Thanks! !:- )
You're welcome! We are making every ounce of help get better results.
john rather then put a bms could i just put a plain battery balancer 5amp , im running 38120s 40 of them in a 4s one battery thank you ?
Yes, but a BMS controls charge as well as discharge. Sad, they should make them as a outer mounted option.
my vevor 500 watt 12 volt wind turbine comes with a mppt. My guess it is of minimal quality. I don’t want to have to manually brake the turbine.Auto is my best friend for this since it all is sort of remote, especially at three in the morning. Is not there a device that will do this automatically or divert the power to a resistor bank of some sort? I want to also hook all this up to some solar panels to get the best of both worlds. Is there a simple schematic that shows the wiring and components of choice.? I am new to this channel and still watching all the vids but have not come across what i am looking for …thanks for any help.
Plenty of videos on my channel showing working options. Soon as I can afford to make more videos I will show how to do all that automatic with 3 phase SSR controls.
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Hi John, I thought in the past you are using three resistors instead of the Dead short .
Braking is shorted to "park" the turbine. But diversion loading controls battery charge and uses resistors.
Ha John.. I have been running BC500 for 4 years and just recently last 6 months it doesn't seem to be putting out power like it used to are there any checks I can do to see what the problem might be.. it's on a tilt up tower and really don't want to bring it down if I don't have to
After that long, I'd check for corrosion on the wire connectors from the turbine down. Another possibility is carbon dust build up on slip rings. Either way, it's like a car and does need attention sometimes. Be sure to recheck all fasteners, use water pump rtv on gaskets when reassembly.
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@@JOHNDANIEL1 thanks.. 6am here in NY you don't sleep much either
I have a question for the teacher, my "advisor".
When it comes to braking options are resistave dump loads the best option?
I would never challenge your guidance or wisdom; I watched your video (4 yrs old) where you showed use of a 30 amp mechanical contacter switch which tied the 3 AC leads from the stator. Is there a preferance which has evolved in you experience?
From the Canadian "Texas region" I thank you! ✌️
Im all messed up! 🍻
Mixed the referance of time frame of the videos.
The question remains the same...😉
@@dje7335 Service braking and active braking can be loaded or dead short locking styles. I show most all options on many videos. You can use water heating elements as resistive loads, or resistors or even like one of mine, a DC compressor to fill 200 gallon air tanks for air tools.
Ac wind gen how about 24 dc brake ?
You mention those load diversion pieces in passing, you pick it up say some body males em and drop it back down. I looked for a link for those, what are they and where can I find them?
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If the wind brakes keep burning out, why use them? Why not just set up a voltage regulator?
Proper brake switches done fail. It's those cheap slotted toggle switches or plated contact switches that are notorious for failure. That's why I showed this option. A controller for wind power is better defined in many of my older videos.
Hi John. I live in the uk. I have been trying to buy one of these 12V 24V LCD Relay SSR Diversion/Dump Control/Regulator Sol/Wind/Hyd 2URDC-1224-B.
I can not get delivery to the uk. Do you know what other product I could use please.
Really like your channel.
Working with Tianmo to make them available on Aliexpress and stocked in Poland, However - Send me a Email. I can see about re-directing one.
olympicpowercontrols@yahoo.com
Isn't this what a certain guy from missouri does? i thought you needed resisters for a brake?
Resistors are for dump loading so that you can manage your battery voltage and prevent the turbine from overcharging, a break is so that you can park the turbine in an off position to keep it from being damaged and bad weather or service the turbine. The guy in Missouri uses a cheap plated contact toggle switch and they tend to burn up and let loose of your turbine at the wrong time.
I know close to zip, but...You have to be present to hit the switch, so what happens when you're not there?
If your not a weather watcher you have to get a automatic system. Those are very expensive but I'm working on a much cheaper version.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Bingo! Thx. I just happened to remember reading about old sch mills/how to make, a self-resetting mechanical brake for when its blowing too hard.
I also got a chuckle about the drill twisting your hand bec I once didn't realize that my Bosch was set on high speed & max torque, and in an awkward position under the car. 24+hrs of barely being able to lift my coffee cup 🥴
Loving the education that you're providing
Yeah I think there's a certain age where your joints start disagreeing with all your actions. We started to try to raise funds to get some materials to do this with because it's just getting too expensive to pay your grocery money out in parts.
John, this brake is a short circuit on the 3 phases. I thought this would burn your windings in the pma. Explain why it wouldn't burn the pma, pls. I'm confused.
If engaged to stop the Turbine before heavy storms and winds it prevents turbine damage. Normal use of the brake is for service or if your not going to be home when a potential storm may hit. You can engage it at up to 20% power output without damaging windings. In case of a surprise wind storm you can when the turbine spins out of the wind due to torque if your fast also engage it before it gets spun back up. Owning a turbine is like owning a car, you don't run it in weather that will damage it. The turbines I use the 800 and 600 and the 500 also can handle sustained 40 mph, would survive 60 mph, but if gust may exceed 45 I park them before such forecast comes true.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 but, I'm talking about the short circuit on all phases, you showed the proper way to brake the turbine and is with load resistors... Prevents the winding not to burn, the heatzone is on the resistors, not the turbine windings... I'm still confused...
The schematic of your switch brake, looks like a short circuit.
@@diogomartins9101PMA connected on dead short will not burn itself. It keeps itself stopped. Connect wires of a generator on short circuit, try to spin it and the generator feels heavy to turn. As he mentions, it could be possible to apply the short when there is little output without damaging the windings.
I saw somewhere it was not good to put the turbine on brake for a long time. Is it true?
Yes, leaving one on brake for a long period of time, such as a week to 10 days or more can cause pitting in the slip ring and even some over saturation of magnetics in the core of the rotors.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Thanks
Not sure if it's just me but the turbine links never fully load. Just the pic with no details
It's your ad and web blockers settings that are doing that. Copy and paste search in a new window and see if it works
Why doesn’t the color of wires matter from the wind turbine?
3 equal phases
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I can't find where I ask in comments that you said 5 years ago don't do this. It's ok now? What has changed? Was my comment deleted or did I just miss it?
Don't do this using a 6 terminal 15 amp toggle switch sold by hustlers in Missouri ( they sold 50K of them that cost $3 for $39 ) which will fuse, melt and blow up your turbine, some had house fires. Use spring loaded and DO NOT as shown in those Missouri scammers videos toss on that switch when your turbine is over spinning like they say is HOW to do it. Maybe their stuff can handle it since it made no power, but what we use would blow that junk switch system up.
Numerous videos I show how to brake a turbine with pull or carbon spring switches. But NEVER use a fake brass tabbed missouri toggle unless you want damage.
Thanks for explaining. I must have missed it in the videos.
How much for one of those controller 🤔
Those controllers run about 50 or 60 bucks you can get a complete one on the link about the middle of the stuff below the video. It'll be Wind and Sun OPC style controller in the description.
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Why didn't you write the brake switch at the end of the long cord like it is in real life, it wouldn't be so abrupt and hard on your wrist
No sound?
Reload it
I have no issues with sound.
I really wish I could follow along. It'd easy for you, I get it, but you talk way to fast and jump all over the place. I'll keep watching and hopefully I can start understanding more of what/why you do the things you do.
Look at the gear tooth emblem below the video, lower right. Click on it, on playback speed, change to .75
forget everything you know, use your brain... and the generator IS the brake.
and its still generatin'.
but whats it generatin'?