Turn a ceiling fan into a wind turbine generator?!
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- čas přidán 6. 12. 2018
- A ceiling fan looks similar to a wind turbine, so one may wonder if it can be used as such. Most ceiling fans are induction motors, that don't generate electricity when being turned. You will have to add magnets. That and many other points are dealt with in this experiment. The goal of this video is to learn how stuff works, and to help everybody who wants to try this conversion themselves. I hope you can learn from my experiment, and make a better version.
Giesbert Nijhuis
My website: www.laesieworks.com/ - Věda a technologie
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Approx 3.5m usd.
Thanks and I agree, but how can you be sure I am not a zombie? (really, have you seen the state I am in?) Not all zombies are bad. (some are preserved well).
Alexander Gray II so in lieu of an apocalypse EE’s are worth ‘bout tree fidy.
I'll steal an actual wind generator, and probably eat the engineer.
Or worth their weight in copper.
The ideas, the effort, the investment of your time , energy and money all makes you a valuable human being. I learnt a lot from your video and rate it high
It's basic EE knowledge that motors make bad generators. Good presentation and demonstration as to why.
your commentary and pronunciation is perfect, clear, concise and at a rate one can follow. Thank you.
This is awesome! This is what CZcams should be used for. Great effort! Just think of what we could accomplish if we all shared ideas and worked together!
Now the energy companies are ripping us off, looks like these videos will be more useful.
Truth
This is the content that should be on my Recommended.
and miss out on all the crappy music videos? Please note I'm being sarcastic. I agree 100% these are the videos that should be featured.
evidence people have the power to be more independent is against big brothers design.
Although you weren't satisfied with your final results, you made a very useful presentation here. Kudos!
a word of thanks to you. never sell yourself short. as many of us here watched your presentation it was well understood, not boring at all. you may not believe it your system works as well as any other devices out there. keep sharing your knowledge with the world, we are listening. there will always be room for improvement in anything man does. do not stop,
learned more from this 14 minute video than in 2 years of electrical engineering
School was the biggest waste of time and money ever
My father held two masters degrees in electro acoustic engineering and acoustic architectural engineering two minors in electrical engineering and petrochemical engineering it was also ECM reconnaissance Vietnam 1965 to 1968 combat veteran he would disagree as he went to a pass fail as in 4.0 or nothing they drop you School of Engineering called Kresky School of Engineering I'm not sure on the spelling he died when I was about in my 20 years old from agent Orange so yes I think he would disagree he also held seven us patents having to do with omnidirectional spherical speaker enclosures with a Parabolic reflector dish that reduced ear fatigue by 86% over conventional box speaker why is fear simple the inner dynamics of the speaker diaphragm and voice coil works like a piston if you can mitigate shimmy and sway by not having extra sandwich bounce around radically on the diaphragm then you get perfect piston movement that's why it's fear this was confirmed by war department research and development 1946 infrasonic Warfare among other projects dad hacked the war departments classified information using an Atari and a dial-up internet connection in 1986 I was just 5 years old when the van that parked in the boonies that was bright white sat there for hours upon hours apparently wondering how the hell somebody could break into National security files using an Atari and a dial-up connection but he did it...
@@mjolnirswrath23Very interesting read! I mean he would probably disagree because he actually got to apply theory in a practical environment. The problem is the way they teach in university where it's all theoretical and you don't understand because you don't learn applications but instead you just know how to calculate specific questions like a robot.
Hello Giesbert Nijhuis: I've been an electrical engineer for 20 years, And I have some advise for improving the function and efficiency of your ceiling fan turned wind turbine.
1st: I like to say you have a firm foundation for creating your own free energy device. I believe that you're on the right track with this project.
2nd: I think that You needed to Keep those inner coils so that you could use them as a magnetic governor, to prevent over speeding the turbine, and thus keeping the raw input voltage from getting too high. "A simple 10 Mega-ohm power resistor" across the inner coils, would provide a semi-regulated load. and thus cause enough rotational resistance, to prevent an over speed event. A wire wound Variable resistor, or a rheostat used, instead of a straight resistor, would allow you to adjust the governor strength by adjusting the the inductive current flow caused by your magnets acting on the inner coils. Changing the resistance will in turn change the inductive load. allowing the turbine to spin faster or slower, depending on the load resistance on the inner coils. This is how to keep this wind turbine from frying your step down circuit(s) which will fail before anything connected to it will. Your power regulator, and DC converter are the weak links here. But if you can regulate the raw input voltage from your coils before it even gets to your power circuits, that weakness will be a non-issue.
3rd and finally: I would suggest some sort of storage medium, like a battery or Capacitor bank. this will further assist you in regard to voltage regulation. Just make sure the voltage capacity of either your battery and/or Capacitor bank is not exceeded by the input voltage. The storage medium will also allow a you to have power buffer to keep your devices running, while there is a low wind situation.
One question on the 3rd option, isn't the aim here to say 'charge a battery' on a phone safely, so then how do you connect another battery safely? or doesn't it really care, and is it mainly when the battery is limited compared to the input (so 5V for the phone) that problems may arise… aka. as long as 'he' would say add a large battery or capacitor bank (say 100V, which will never be exceeded by the generator) there isn't really an issue anymore?
ps. Really liked your nr.2 that to me read like a genius solution, would be even greater if one could have a software regulated resistance that is controlled by something that can measure the rotation speed of the turbine. That way there can be as little resistance on the breaks during low winds, while higher winds would engage the break.
Great question
As a mechanic I would say start with an old style ceiling fan and eliminate 3/4 of the bs because it is already the proper kind of motor with beefer everything. Install a 1 way clutch, install a large capacitor often found in old TV and CRT Monitors, because you installed this and what is coming down the line you would need to install diodes due to flyback voltage, Install your transformer from an old style welder, then another diode, then a AGM Deep Cycle Battery (Blue top would do nicely). Or you could do what the engineer said and make it less efficient, cost more and blow apart your capacitor, fry your transformer and boil over your battery due to flyback voltage and/or the fan spinning backwards. But, trust him he went to school for 4+ years for this kind of stuff and never gets feedback from customers. Unlike us stupid mechanics who have to re-engineer their screw ups to make the customer happy or explain ourselves in court.
@Phil Weatherley The governor idea only nonsense if he plans on never seeing a windstorm big enough to damage the blades. The governor idea is interesting but probably not required, but hardly nonsense.
@Phil Weatherley Your comments use negative jabs like "nonsense" and "worthless" so a lot of people didn't hear a thing you said. Congratulations for showing your insecurities and losing face.
I've learned more about electricity in this 15 minute video than I ever have in school. I've always heard the terms and definitions, but seeing them in practice really glued together my understanding.
Extremely simple but well thought out and executed, good job sir!
This was a great video. Informative and you, the host, are quite charming. I appreciate your straightforward and honest approach. No bluster. No hype. It was great! I'm a fan.
Outstanding video. The substance, pacing, and tone are spot on. Well done!
This video was very helpful. I’ve never taken on a project like this. I’m now more confident I can do the same with this hvac blower. The copper strands are very nice. Thank you so much
Interesting! There's a guy in Far North Queensland who converts induction motors into generators by milling out the rotor and installing magnets. His rectification system is basically identical to yours in architecture. We are using one of his systems at work. The machine is driven by a PTO and the output at full speed exceeds 2000W, at approx 110v. The DC current feeds into a Victron Solar Charge Controller (MPPT), which charges a large battery bank. Replacing a truck alternator, the system has proved more reliable, more powerful, and far more suitable for battery charging. Its also quieter. Thanks for your video!
Great job, I'm watching it over and over to learn from what you have done. So informative.
I respect the fact your conclusion was unbiased. You tried an idea and you concluded other alternative approaches might be better.. Look forward to see the alternative options here.
Hello Ehab. Thanks for your comment. Yea: at first I was very positive about using a ceiling fan as base for a DIY wind turbine generator, but I even though I could make a better version now, I now don’t think this is the smartes base to build upon. But it was fun to explore & share, and I am working on a new experiment.
@ROB'S FREE ELECTRICITY DEVICES AND TINKERS
"Take it to the limit!" - The Eagles
I was thinking about this exact thing as I watched this. I learned about electronics a bit through tinkering and repairs. I have never studied the field. However, my interest is increasing more and more and I feel like a ceiling fan generator can be a good device. My main objective is a the strong strator base and shaft.
Personally, I'd redo the coils, magnets, and then aim for a better electronic set up. Someday if I am interested enough, I'll go through all my everyday items to start making random things.
Sidenote: Recently, I made a input/output bluetooth adapter that will connect any two 3.5m audio jacks together. One of the two devices connects to your audio source, and the other connects to your audio output (speakers) Both run off of 5v battery or can be USB powered, or DC powered. I prefer DC powered on more permanent set ups, for example, your input would be DC powered, and your output would be battery. Lastly, my input bluetooth adapter is able to do the "broadcast" feature, meaning other devices, like a persons smartphone, could connect to it. This is handy for my home surround sound system, as I can have other friends bluetooth into it. No cables or getting up needed!
-Tim
I really enjoyed this honest and exploratory and informative video. Please post an update when you get one.
Thank you AutoTechTeacher. I aim to keep my videos real & calm. If it didn't work out, the why-so is interesting also, so other can improve upon/learn from my attempt. If there is an update I will post it!
Hello Rob. So: I looked at your ceiling fan generator videos. Cool: you went deep into it as well! And no, it sure ain't easy. Why did you get tired of my video though? I showed all the many steps that have to be taken, and how the generator and electronics are still not good enough. If I may, I have 2 suggestions for you: measure the output of the inner coils separately from the outer coils. I have not done that. My guess is that using the outer coils only is better than combined, but I am not sure. And, man; your videos are too long! -I saw them all, but while skipping a lot. Keep up the research!
I enjoyed how calm and original this was presented. Thanks
Hey man I really appreciate people like you and love the content, even if it wasn’t as efficient as we hoped it was still a learning experience especially for me so I appreciate the potential life saving knowledge.
I must say for your first time that is very impressive. Your demonstration was well presented and truthful. It gives food for thought. Thank you and don't stop. Thinking outside the box is what makes great Inventions. It provides opportunity for someone else. Sorry I have nothing to add as far as technical advice. But I have learned a very old motor that I have been saving is a prime candidate for a generator. What you showed me kept me from wasting my time on the other type of motor.
Don't sell yourself short. You know how to improve on designs, this information is very valuable. Thanks for the information!
💯 on your comment 🤔🙋😎.
I don't understand why this video got so many dislikes. I thought he did a great job. He tells you right from the beginning that its an experiment, and he explained everything as he did it. Great video! 👍
Thanks for explaining everything in detail as you go. That's what is missing in many other videos of this kind. Just subscribed 😀😀
Aside from the improvements you've already presented in this video, I think a gearbox for the turbine, to generator drive shaft would greatly enhance efficiency. Also, a battery for power storage would help. Lastly, a variable pitch turbine rotor, which would be controlled by an anemometer, would complete the system. Thanks for the video.
Can you do a video on the variable pitch turbine rotor please?
Is that to automatically change the angle of the blades?
@@teezyizeazy6261 it must be, as it turns faster, the direction of the wind changes relatively to the wings. I haven't tried it, but I think it could be done with a linear motion in the axis
take a look at variable pich boat props the shaft is hollow wherein there is a rod interconnected with a flange on each blade that either takes machinework or 3D printer the problem i see is that hub axel and blades on a effetive turbine is already under considerable load why weaken them more for a small gain ,,if you want a good turbine it can be had for about 500 bucks istabreeze 1500 watt 24v dont buy the china stuff as their outout is 1-10 of their rating the blades hub and mousing is okey for parts tough @@teezyizeazy6261
Good job sir
You explained things clearly
I really appreciate how you criticize your own project only few people will do that.
Your mind and expressive gift are great. I am Canadian. Also a Power Engineer for 30 years. 😎👍
Many thousands of people have had your idea. You actually put it to the test. Thanks for convincing me not to try this with the broken fan I found at the dump!
The DC to DC converter with the regulator: WHOA~! Thanks for sharing your big brain with us, Jason.
I had been contemplating this project for a while. Thanks for saving me the trouble of seeing if it works. Looks like it was a fun attempt nonetheless! Good job Giesbert.
Amazing information! Winds are unpredictable thus the speed of the turbine’s produced energy must be captured and then regulated, prior to output of current, in order to prevent overheating and irregular voltage regardless of the speed of the turbine. I am no engineer by any means, but love science and hope to understand conductivity, and regulation of currents, this is like gold to me thank you for sharing this experiment.
So well Displayed and
Explained in every Step and
Procedure. You have Set Me On A New Path of Electrical Curiosity. THANK YOU for
Making this Video.
i enjoyed this immensely despite knowing i will never do it myself...i enjoyed the calmness of the voice ,and the lack of thumping music ....very impressive
Great teaching video, extreamely interesting. It makes such a difference when a qualified person does a project like this. If you decide to make your own from scratch I'll be looking for that video for sure. Thank you!
I do not remember having seen this before, but it is really good effort and well done to you, is how we all must learn to walk before running. 10 out of 10.
Projects like these were very common in the 1800’s... just like the explosion of electric vehicles/trams. You literally can’t take the media’s word for anything these days. Keep it up 👍
Wow, this is the kind of detailed instruction in electricity that I've been needing. AND a great wind power DIY! Thanks
I'm a "fan" of ElectroBoom, I'm here to thank you for using the FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER :)
O yeaaa
But he is doing it right here ;-)))))))
btw electroboom got a new video up.
It's not a PUNY single diode rectifier ! !
Thumbs up from me brother.
Did he install a SHUNT?
same.
I really appreciate your time in making and explaining that! That was a pretty neat video
Hi Giesbert ! Thanks for sharing your homemade Ceiling Fan Generator. I have a suggestion on the Electronics side, as observed the Generator produces AC voltage and I think if you add a Battery and a Battery charger with the capability of float charge you can harness and store all the power from the wind turbine...
Though in the end it wasn't worth the trouble, this was still an interesting video. You explain things very well. Thank you.
finally understood the direct drive, no gearbox wind turbine. Thank you so much, sir. Keep up the good work :)
Greetings from Canada. Thanks for the very clear and concise narration and your good work.
Thank you Giesbert, this is the best video I've ever watched in my entire life
A very intriguing and informative video, had me glued on to it till the end. You say that you don't have an electronics background, I'd say whatever knowledge that you have is more than that of a beginner. You have a clear understanding of the concepts and know-how of electrical components. Great video. Loved watching it.
I Don’t know much about electricity Giesbert, however your working knowledge is inspirational and educational. Also like you said, there is always room for improvement and fine tuning of good ideas.
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There's a ceiling fan in my room put in by my late brother when he was living here. It wobbles to much plus I don't like or need it anyway. Thank you for showing me a productive use for it as a generator. Most electronic devices run any where from 3 volts DC to 12 volts DC (lights,radios,portable TVs,cellphones,tablets and computers. This device could power them and/or charged batteries that could power electronic devices. If a device can be plugged into a lighter socket of a car,this generator should be able to power it.
One of the best vids I’ve seen in a long time. Useful info. I agree generator from scratch would be better. However using premade parts like the housing would save time money and effort. And of course from scratch would require fabrication skills like welding, and machining on a lathe and or mill. Also would need copper wire (expensive) and resin+ hardener. There are videos on how to make these.
Hello Giesbert Nijhuis This video was very helpful. I’ve never taken on a project like this You explain things very well Thank you.
I'm a industrialelectrician . Good video kept me watching. Don't give up. Please stay inventing👍
This was your first electronic experiment? Awesome.
Beats the try-on hauls which usually clog my feed. 4 million views restores my hope for humanity.
I expected an assertive Persian face and voice whenever the text "Full Bridge Rectifier" was about to appear on screen.
I liked the video...it was very helpful and inspiring. I noticed you had many comments so don’t know if my idea has been used already. The way the fan coils are wired, I believe, is in series. One of the things you could do is wire some of the coils in parallel to help lower the voltage but raise the current. That way when charging a battery, you won’t overshoot the voltage but with higher current the battery will charge the battery faster.
I am going to see if I can pick up some ‘trashed’ fan motors and see what I can come up with. Again, good video.
I too would like to compliment your video production skills. It moved right along, had great graphics and was very instructional.
Very good! I always contemplate things like this to help me while I'm off the grid. Thanks!
My interest in this is much greater than my brain power to understand it. You helped me understand more than others. I believe you are a great teacher.
First time working with electronics? I'm impressed. I studied electronics and I love them. It's so fun and awesome.
Nicely done video on an interesting topic. Speaker was clear and well-spoken. Thanks for the diligent effort.
The test prototype is the biggest learning area .
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Nice video. My only suggestion might be to keep the inner windings as a regulator. It may be that at a certain speed, your input is at max. At that level, apply braking to regulate the blades at max, for instance, during a storm. It may be used to disable the vanes from spinning. Possibly, this braking energy could be collected as well, using a secondary system that only functions at max wind.
Great video and the best conclusion. Great way to experiment and gain more knowledge. Excellent.
This is amazing... was searching for how to open the damn motor assembly and reached this page.. this project is awesome!
top drawer all the way. not a fake video. just straight talk by a smart well spoken man. thanks
That was extremely interesting and I enjoyed the chickens in the background
Great work. You can feed the AC to some kind of battery charging circuit and then use stable DC from the battery.
nice video that conveys many concepts of what makes a motor or generator more efficient
I've never attempted anything like this,but will now. Excellent video.
This is a PMA , i made one very similar in my "Doomsday exercise bike generator" video about 1 year ago. i utilized both windings and i got over 110V AC which i powered a shop light. i attached a household outlet to the output which allows me to simply plug in a cellphone charger or battery charger, and use the PMA to charge batteries.
"this project is a bad idea". Love the honesty. It's an interesting project, nonetheless!
Thats you opinion ASS HOLE !
Sho Bud lmao he’s “quoting” that statement!
Talk about an asshole?
Hahahaha!!!
Absolutely outstanding video! Well done on an excellent conversion.
Very explanitory I appreciate your calm and quiet demeanor explaining why and what for everything is and how it should be
Thanks again Sir
Great video and I love your tour of the progress you have made! Keep up the good work and post it here! Thanks and goooooood luck in future projects!
really love your background soothing nature sounds in the mountains.. rivers, birdies..fields hmm.. ooh cool fan 2 !
Great narration, doesn't matter about the wind turbine, you have the basics there.
Connect the windings in parallel instead of series. You could connect them so it outputs 25V instead of 50V, and you would not have to waste power in the regulator IC. Connect every other one for half the voltage or every fourth one for 1/4 the voltage.
This is the best way. Fix mechanically from the ground up for the system you have in mind if you want efficiency. Fix afterwards with cheap electronics if you want conveniance.
Having a battery to charge would be good. The power can be stored & regulated slightly this way. I used to experiment some time back. The wear seemed more a problem. There are better options as you mentioned which I did not have then. I will get to it someday & record it too. Thank you for it.
I enjoyed your detail, very refreshing. You got to the point! And I learned more. Thank you!
I agree with your conclusion, but glad you made the attempt and shared the experience, it was very informative.
Thank you for this very well explained, and thought out video, you guys can produce some awesome video. I just learned you can make a washing machine generator and then I found this video. This type of knowledge and skills is going to be vital to have in the near future.
You got that right,with this energy crisis,you must have had a premonition 🤔,priceless knowledge.
awesome result sir..
solute to u..
i fell in love with ur work..
i love building electorinic things..
we want more video from u sir..
Amazing video and effort! This is what makes CZcams brilliant. Thanks for sharing!
The comments sum up this video. Good example, well shown and the drawbacks explained. Thank you for it.
Thanks for your advices and directions ....I was thinking about to build a wind turbine from a ceiling fan .
Everything about this video is good. Thanks for the lesson.
Very well explained concept, I liked it very much. Thank you.
It has always bewildered me why, when someone takes the trouble to share their experience and knowledge in an open way, expressing what they are learning, inviting comment and suggestions so they and others can learn, is given dislikes and negative and demeaning comments. Why is that. Negative suggestions that are disguised as personal attacks on people who are simply trying to establish a relationship with like minded people do not deserve this and it accomplish nothing but to close people off. I was an engineering manager for many years. In my world, there were no such thing as bad ideas because whatever was put forward became a stepping stone to something better. These negative type people very seldom contributed anything of worth to projects. On the other hand, cooperation, contribution, respect, flexibility and the like always lead to better outcomes and a sense of accomplishment for Everyone.
Thank you for sharing! Excellent!
Thank you for the knowledge generation - Asante kwa elimu.
Enjoyed video. If you want to learn more watch Gerard Morins videos. These work great. The best motors in my experience are the Scotter motors and the Wheel chair Motors the Torque is amazing in the wheelchair motor.Also the washing machine motors are what Mr Morin uses.Gez in the UK
Nice job and presentation, you made it very interesting.
I can't get over what a great video this is of a failure. Great work seeing it all the way to the end. Knowing what not to do saved me from going down that path.
I had tested it in past many years ago and it is successful, do not disappoint with the results, it was nice effort because it was your first attempt, carry on bro.
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen...
Thank you for all your time and effort!
Cool project...ever since I saw Soylent Green, I've been wanting to try something like this to power the TV or lights.
Giesbert, thank you for educational content! For wind turbines you need last mile transport hub motors or hobby brushless outrunners.
sir you are amazing and the way you present the video and find out your own fault in the model and made it more better and better is just awesome 🙌🙌🙌
This is a good working built with great explaining. So a great and usefull video... So, thanks for this uploading. I also enjoyed watched it
Had no choice but to subscribe. Need more of this good stuff 👌👌
Thank you for spending so much time explaining everything.
Great work and don't sell yourself short. You're a lot more talented than you say!