György Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 instrumentalists (1969-1970, audio+score)

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    Conductor: Reinbert de Leeuw
    Performers: Schönberg Ensemble
    PDF Download:
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    00:05 I: Corrente (Fließend)
    05:51 II: Calmo, sostenuto
    12:08 III: Movimento preciso e meccanico
    15:44 IV: Presto
    Instrumentation:
    Flute/piccolo
    Oboe/oboe d'amore
    Clarinet 1
    Clarinet 2/Bass Clarinet
    Horn in F
    Trombone
    Harpsichord/Hammond organ
    Piano/celesta
    Violin I
    Violin II
    Viola
    Cello
    Contrabass
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Komentáře • 136

  • @PalumboComposer
    @PalumboComposer Před rokem +11

    the best moment in music history.

  • @davidecarlassara8525
    @davidecarlassara8525 Před rokem +9

    One of the true hilights in western music. Ligeti is a great narrator of our world.

    • @JohnBorstlap
      @JohnBorstlap Před rokem +1

      Which is in itself not a recommendation, given our world as it is.

    • @davidecarlassara8525
      @davidecarlassara8525 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Who doesn't love this kind of commonplaces

  • @EllieMcEla
    @EllieMcEla Před 7 lety +51

    05:02 rip headphone users

  • @yagiz885
    @yagiz885 Před 3 lety +21

    13:40 fascinating polyrhythm!

    • @mrtchaikovsky
      @mrtchaikovsky Před 2 lety +5

      Fascinating Polyrhythm,
      You've got me on the go!
      Fascinating Polyrhythm,
      I'm all a-quiver.
      What a mess you're making!
      The neighbours want to know
      Why I'm always shaking
      Just like a flivver.
      Each morning I get up with the sun-
      Start a-hopping,
      Never stopping-
      To find at night no work has been done.
      I know that
      Once it didn't matter-
      But now you're doing wrong;
      When you start to patter
      I'm so unhappy.
      Won't you take a day off?
      Decide to run along
      Somewhere far away off-
      And make it snappy!
      Oh, how I long to be the man I used to be!
      Fascinating Polyrhythm,
      Oh, won't you stop picking on me?

  • @slateflash
    @slateflash Před 7 lety +54

    I think this is the best thing Ligeti wrote

    • @ensemblemiknawooj
      @ensemblemiknawooj Před 5 lety +5

      Kyrie from Requiem.

    • @morganmartinez8420
      @morganmartinez8420 Před 4 lety +4

      I prefer his piano concerto

    • @diallobanksmusic
      @diallobanksmusic Před 4 lety +5

      It is defenitly one of his best works. But the Kyrie from Requiem, and his other concerti (Piano, Cello, Violin, Hamburg (horn) and Double (flute and oboe)) are also really striking, well crafted and masterfully written pieces.

    • @diegosepulveda2222
      @diegosepulveda2222 Před 3 lety

      *The worst

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves Před 2 lety +3

      @@diegosepulveda2222 *The what?

  • @didierschein8515
    @didierschein8515 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for the score.

  • @giorgiociomei5030
    @giorgiociomei5030 Před 2 lety +6

    Masterpiece ♥️

  • @dogbiscuit1171
    @dogbiscuit1171 Před 2 lety +2

    Through the miracle of youtube we get to see uploads like this and see the score along with the music, thank you for this!

  • @niklassaabye3986
    @niklassaabye3986 Před 7 lety +3

    Great piece!

  • @taishiohira5877
    @taishiohira5877 Před 4 měsíci

    空間や方角を感じるような金管の響きの後に絶え間ないチェンバロの重音連打 次々とアイデアを繰り出してくるリゲティの作曲法は私も親近感を覚える

  • @chris999999999999
    @chris999999999999 Před 6 lety +7

    This is fantastic. Great video, I really appreciate it!

  • @charleslyall5857
    @charleslyall5857 Před 3 lety +2

    Saw Boulez conduct this piece in Edinburgh. Marvelous!

  • @Scriabinfan593
    @Scriabinfan593 Před rokem +1

    Masterpiece.

  • @user-sr4ju5yh5q
    @user-sr4ju5yh5q Před 4 měsíci

    Masterpiece!

  • @svdtrumpet
    @svdtrumpet Před 5 lety

    Awesome

  • @johnappleseed8369
    @johnappleseed8369 Před 7 lety +11

    Bless you for this :)

    • @emanuel_soundtrack
      @emanuel_soundtrack Před 5 lety +1

      i see you everywhere

    • @darrylschultz6479
      @darrylschultz6479 Před 4 lety +2

      @@emanuel_soundtrack 🍏🍎Apples are known to spread their seed far 'n wide.😬

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves Před 2 lety

      @@darrylschultz6479 I like apples

    • @darrylschultz6479
      @darrylschultz6479 Před 2 lety

      @@segmentsAndCurves Yeah, I like apples too-almost as much as jokes about someone called Appleseed being seen everywhere because apples spread their seed far 'n wide.😉👍

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves Před 2 lety

      @@darrylschultz6479 yes.

  • @DreamlessSleepwalker
    @DreamlessSleepwalker Před 5 lety +9

    Nice profile picture man.

  • @naresu
    @naresu Před 4 lety +4

    the polyrhythms

  • @antonio.belfiore
    @antonio.belfiore Před 5 lety +1

    Please, keep on uploading contents !

    • @darrylschultz6479
      @darrylschultz6479 Před 4 lety

      I'm visiting the pub later so there's quite a good chance I will.🤮

  • @user-ge8hw7ix4w
    @user-ge8hw7ix4w Před 5 měsíci

    음악 끌고가는 힘이 진짜 장난아님 이 곡 너무 재밌네

  • @bassicdiego
    @bassicdiego Před 2 lety

    that third movement had me on my knees🧎🏾‍♂️

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 Před rokem

    This concerto is a choke point between the masterworks of his so-called "first manner" (among which the concerto for cello and that for flute and oboe) and the further compositor's evolution. Some "breaking" features could be found within these previous works.

  • @billy1998vn
    @billy1998vn Před 5 lety

    ...very nice Mugi

  • @taishiohira5877
    @taishiohira5877 Před 5 měsíci

    第一楽章の摩擦を感じる度数が違い擦り合うような繰り返しのフレーズ、そして第一楽章の後半の多声部分の複雑さはすごい

  • @maurorossi7803
    @maurorossi7803 Před 5 lety +2

    materiale prezioso. Grazie di condividere

    • @56kk12
      @56kk12 Před 5 lety

      ma perchè un nome falso ahahahah

  • @Exileonbackroad
    @Exileonbackroad Před 3 lety +4

    The section from 9:20 to 10:30 was hugely influential to Frank Zappa, so much of his more 'difficult' music is directly based on these rhythmic structures.

    • @timages
      @timages Před 3 lety +2

      Frank Zappa? ...that's sad.

    • @ooshamaga
      @ooshamaga Před 3 lety

      Hah, nice! Reminds me of "IIII'm riding a small tiny hoss" (Montana)

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves Před 2 lety

      @@timages Cry about it.

    • @timages
      @timages Před 2 lety

      @@segmentsAndCurves You should have a good cry over the realization that you shit about music, ...you clown.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves Před 2 lety

      @@timages Cry about it

  • @alessandro2421
    @alessandro2421 Před rokem

    Secondo il mio orecchio due brani che mettono pace tra gusto tradizionale e totale libertà dalle regole com positive sono:
    Schubert /Berio RENDERING
    Hendrix /pat methney THIRD STONE FROME THE SUN

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack Před 5 lety

    Liggeti with advertising to stop your apreciation, wow moments

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 Před 3 lety +1

      Vast majority of us subscribe to CZcams premium. Suggestion: get a job. Subscribe to premium. Quit posting ignorant comments. That was easy.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves Před 2 lety

      @@stueystuey1962 You gotta consider the fact that some of us do not have a life (yet).

  • @MarcoInchingolo83
    @MarcoInchingolo83 Před 3 lety

  • @nicolasvisintin1315
    @nicolasvisintin1315 Před 4 lety +2

    BUENARDAAAAAA

  • @snch2113
    @snch2113 Před 2 lety +1

    12:57

  • @taishiohira5877
    @taishiohira5877 Před 4 měsíci

    息の長い音の使い方が上手い

  • @JohnBorstlap
    @JohnBorstlap Před rokem +1

    Interestingly, the score looks very complex but the sound effect could be written-out in a much simpler way, with barlines through the whole tecture.

  • @sebastianzaczek
    @sebastianzaczek Před 5 lety +4

    13:03 I wonder why the marking for the conductor only mentions thumb, index finger, ring finger and Little finger (->"whole Hand), or in other words, why did he leave out "thumb + index finger + Middle finger" while specifying "thumb + index finger + ring finger" without the middle finger? Not that it would have changed anything About the Music or have any other significance to the piece, but is there a reason for that?

    • @simondavidsmith
      @simondavidsmith Před 4 lety +5

      Basically he asks the conductor to show 1, 2, 3 and 5 (without 4) because at distance, and at speed, 4 could easily be mistaken for 3 or 5. So it's just to reduce the possibility for confusion.

  • @Rufusdos
    @Rufusdos Před 5 lety +6

    3:22 to 3:29 that is one freaky violin sound! I'm sure it has a name and all decent violinists know about it, but to me it sounded like an electronic musician was twisting a cutoff knob on the recording.

    • @juliusseizure591
      @juliusseizure591 Před 5 lety +1

      It's called a trill :)

    • @Rufusdos
      @Rufusdos Před 5 lety

      @@juliusseizure591 but he/she somehow manipulated the overtone on the upper note?

    • @juliusseizure591
      @juliusseizure591 Před 5 lety +8

      @@Rufusdos Yes. The score says "sul pont.", which means to play the bow near the bridge so as to bring out the higher harmonics. The other strings are also playing with mutes and bowing over the fingerboard (which creates an even more interesting texture).

    • @Rufusdos
      @Rufusdos Před 5 lety +1

      @@juliusseizure591 Woah, thanks! It sounds amazing.

  • @sashakindel3600
    @sashakindel3600 Před 5 lety +5

    I always wonder how accurate to the score performances of micropolyphonic works are. The fact the it's hard to tell is kind of the point, but the fine distinctions it asks of the players seem to verge on the impossible, and I wonder if they really do pull it off anyway.

    • @juliusseizure591
      @juliusseizure591 Před 4 lety +1

      It's pretty damn close!

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves Před 2 lety +1

      If you can't tell if it's right, it's right.

    • @JohnBorstlap
      @JohnBorstlap Před rokem

      Such sonic art pieces are never quite correctly played but that does not matter, it is the gesture and the overall effect which counts. The players just hope for the best - as the conductor hopes. And everybody is counting like mad.

  • @newtronix
    @newtronix Před 3 lety +2

    How can you put an advert in the middle of this. Absolutely ridiculous!

  • @taishiohira5877
    @taishiohira5877 Před 5 měsíci

    二度音程がぶつかり合うフレーズがリゲティにはよく見られる。同音連打、ボリリズムもそうだが

  • @stephenjablonsky1941
    @stephenjablonsky1941 Před rokem

    Is it true the original title of this piece was The Life of Insects?

  • @tomfurgas2844
    @tomfurgas2844 Před 2 lety +1

    Great work, excellently performed. Too bad the video is marred by a low-level hum throughout. What, they couldn't EQ it out?

    • @JohnBorstlap
      @JohnBorstlap Před rokem

      The hum does fit quite well with the piece, which is about hums.

  • @MrTacoKingMC
    @MrTacoKingMC Před 3 lety +2

    he went fucked on this one

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM Před 3 lety +1

      cry about it

    • @nahnahnah1435
      @nahnahnah1435 Před rokem +1

      @@GUILLOM nah its a good thing

    • @MrTacoKingMC
      @MrTacoKingMC Před rokem

      @@GUILLOM no like its good it sounds good

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM Před rokem

      @@MrTacoKingMC cry about it

    • @MrTacoKingMC
      @MrTacoKingMC Před rokem

      @@GUILLOM 2 years later man we have to bury the hatchet

  • @danix5014
    @danix5014 Před 3 lety

    seems like techno in 14:12. lol

  • @rafitarawr
    @rafitarawr Před 4 lety

    9:20 fac :v

  • @user-74652
    @user-74652 Před 6 lety +7

    I love how the instrumentation specifies that you can use either a harpsichord or a Hammond organ, and either a piano or a celesta. In each case giving you a choice between two completely different instruments.
    I wonder how this will sound on Hammond organ and celesta?

    • @kobbelobbe941
      @kobbelobbe941  Před 6 lety +14

      No the instrumentalists simply change instruments. No choosing

    • @slateflash
      @slateflash Před 6 lety +9

      If i'm not mistaken there are two keyboard players and each doubles on two instruments

    • @sebastianzaczek
      @sebastianzaczek Před 5 lety

      @@slateflash exactly

    • @newtronix
      @newtronix Před 3 lety

      Must be where Steve Reich got the idea from

  • @Marmalade000000
    @Marmalade000000 Před rokem

    This particular piece describes exactly the terrible world we currently live in

    • @JohnBorstlap
      @JohnBorstlap Před rokem +1

      This is a correct description. It is sound art, dehumanized, as the world we currently live in is dehumanizing. The entire modern world as it developed in the last century is characterized by this process of dehumanization. Ligeti has sensed this very aptly.

  • @puzzlepuddles6712
    @puzzlepuddles6712 Před 4 lety +1

    im slowly loosing my sanity... . . .

  • @jsabuilds2404
    @jsabuilds2404 Před 2 lety +5

    I don't consider Ligeti, Stockhausen, Xenakis, and other similar composers as "Music" composers, but rather "Sound Collage" composers. I'm not very inclined towards the static and discontinuous Sound Collages by the latter two, but Ligeti's Sound Collages have a dynamic smoothness to them; they "feel" closer to music because they "flow," and that's what makes them more interesting.
    Edit: I've been getting several replies from some people claiming that music is "organized sound." I agree that on a basic level, this is true. However, I believe that music goes far beyond just organizing sounds. Music is a language, a form of intelligent communication. To claim that music is only "organized sounds" is like proclaiming English to be "organized letters." This sentence I'm typing is certainly an organization of letters, but so is ABCABCABC and agklsfocofekocmwefjsdotsdfcjsd. The latter, however, is unintelligible.
    Similarly, the "organization" I've heard within sound collage is unrecognizable as any pattern. Music depends upon a recognizable pattern in order to hold musical interest. I'm not only referring to meter, but also to melodic, harmonic, dynamic, and tone color patterns. Either the patterns in sound collage don't exist, or they are too long and complex for the human mind to detect. Sure, you could probably find whatever crazy patterns a sound collage composer used by looking at the score, but I personally don't want to have to analyze a score in order to understand (or even remotely enjoy) a recording. I'm sure that most people don't want to, either. Music should be an enjoyable, expressive art form, not a scientific study.
    I hope I have enlightened you with my humble opinion on music.

  • @HOELEC2
    @HOELEC2 Před rokem +1

    Personal view ... Sorry to say, does absolutely nothing for me emotionally or intellectually... if structure there is (and i'm sure there might be some kind of structure within...), it is haphazard and random to my ear. Watching the score with the outlandish time signature changes makes me think that simplicity is sometimes a blessing... and that novelty for the sake of novelty has its limits.

    • @JohnBorstlap
      @JohnBorstlap Před rokem

      All the technique going into this piece is inaudible and deviations would not make any difference in effect. All the complex instructions are meant to create a great intensity in the players, to get it right. Pieces like this are not meant to convey anything emotional or intellectual, in terms of music. The emotional effect of it is a dehumanizing one, symbol of the modern world. With music, that is a very different art form....

    • @Qazwdx111
      @Qazwdx111 Před rokem +1

      ​@@JohnBorstlap "All the complex instructions are meant to create a great intensity in the players, to get it right." - source?

  • @diegosepulveda2222
    @diegosepulveda2222 Před 3 lety +1

    The worst shit I've ever heard.

  • @goodnice9018
    @goodnice9018 Před 6 lety +5

    12:09

  • @KarenGiurdzhian
    @KarenGiurdzhian Před 3 lety

    13:30