György Ligeti - Portrait film documentary - English subtitles
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- čas přidán 22. 02. 2020
- I've uploaded this important and rare film because the version with English subtitles isn't on youtube. The subtitles are not mine, at times they are not very accurate but they are good enough.
More info about this film - www.artlinefilms.com/en/catalo...
I met him in his old days in Hamburg Rothenbaum, he loved to speak with me because I spoke French, we spent many afternoons drinking coffee and he always carried a CD player and headphones, always listening to music and writing, he was an adorable old man, I loved to speak with him but I never knew he was that famous he was very humble and looked very poor but he was so smart and interesting.... One day he did not appear in the Cafe anymore.. Short after that I found out he died and then I found out who he was... I missed him for a long time. He was one of my favorite guests in the Cafe. I knew he was different, he was somebody very special. I love people who are different... They always have interesting stories.
Wonderful story. Which Cafe?
@@tarukofusuki He used to Come almost everyday in the afternoon...
@@jacquelineverswalm1722 fine! What's the name and the location of this cafe?
@@tarukofusuki the name was Cafe Funck Eck sorry I Made a mistake before,they belonged both to my Boss and I confused the names.It was at Rothenbaumchaussee in Front of NDR in Hamburg Germany.
wow
Hi folks. I did the subtitles to this film over 10 or 15 years ago. I am in no way a professional, just a lover of his music. I had an African friend who spoke French translate for me and I learned how to add subtitles as we went along. Please forgive any mistakes I was just anxious to watch the documentary in English as you may be.
At least you tried :D
We appreciate and thank you for your contribution!
Thank you so much for the subtitles! Huge respect! :)
Thanks you David. It should be a World citizens :-)
well, sometimes, GL says "it din't change" and you wrote "It changed"..
My brother introduced me to the music of Ligeti when I was very young. I used to enjoy listening to it alone, Atmospheres and the Requiem, because, even in the day time, it frightened me in a thrilling way!
Repeated listening revealed the harmonic beauty. It was like befriending a wild dragon.
Love his Trio for Horn, Piano and Violin.
My heart was pounding throughout the whole documentary. What a wonderful person and artist!
What a fascinating person. He possesses such a beautiful mind and I envy him for that tbh. He experienced many horrible things in his life, but we are so lucky he found the strength to keep going.
This is amazing...truly....my favorite classical composer of all time..the performances he coaxed out of his musicians is ...out of this world...genius
Thank you much for posting this documentary.
The subtitles are not always faithful (sometimes very unfaithful), but the documentary is a masterpiece, also artistically. Thank you!
Very interesting documentary. I have been a fan of Ligeti's music for many years (yes, I have the Wergo 5-LP set). One must acknowledge Stanley Kubrick as well, for introducing Ligeti's music to a considerably wider audience than he would have had otherwise.
Indeed! I saw "2001: A Space Odyssey" at a movie theater in 1968 when it came out. The music was especially appealing; I later got the album & from the liner notes learned about Ligeti's music, followed by the purchase of a CD w/ the a cappella work from the film, "Lux aeterna"--just introduced Ligeti's work to my granddaughter! Ligeti's work is so important, timeless & valuable as a treasure from an inspired heart & mind.
I've been waiting for almost 20 years to get an interview like this to Ligeti. It is not only an incredible documentary but also a piece of art itself. Thankyou so much!
Thanks for the upload. I've not listened to Ligeti for a little while (I've been binging on Autechre) but recently was struck with an urge to listen to Clouds and Clocks, which lead to his Requiem, which lead to the whole damn catalogue.
thanks for this. Hadn't heard it. Incredible piece.
Excellent docu on Ligeti, one of the most important post-WW2 composers. Thank you for the upload.
I'm a Bachian guy.
But I have a very soft spot for Ligeti.
He sees ahead.
Many thanks for uploading this!
Thanks for upload this gem!
This film is truly special. A joy to watch. Thank you.
thank you for the version with subtitles
This is an amazing documentary. Thank you so much for uploading it!
Love, love, love his work. One of the greats!
This is a revelation. Thank you so much for posting.
Thank you for doing this...one of the greatest composers of the 20th Century and my personal favourite of all time.
So very big thanks for this video and adding english subtitles
Thanks for the upload
Thank you for sharing this!
Fascinating insight into a great composer.Thak you.
Wow thank you for the translation of this fine documentary . Truly one of the giants of modern music
What a profound privilege to view this amazing film... so beautifully filmed and produced - thank you so much for posting it. I learned so much about Ligeti's life, art, mind, and times - I plan to share it with friends and watch it again.
Wow! Thank you for this. Many years ago, I went to a series of all Ligeti concerts at the RAM in London and he was there in the audience. I very clearly remember seeing him at intermission but I was too young and shy to say anything. Later I wrote my doctoral dissertation on his Nonsense Madrigals.
Thank you very much
Olá! Muito obrigado por postar esta raridade de documentário!
44:08 The question mark should say the name Hindemith, but otherwise this is a very interesting and great documentary!
Thanks I’ll correct the original
Absolutely love this. Recently saw Atmospheres in Walt Disney Concert Hall and was sold immediately.
thanks for upload🎈
It's okay I'm just glad that the videos available
Wonderful person. Great composer
thank you
Fantastic !
Great artist
I can’t believe that Ligeti aunt just forced Ligeti to catch a spider
What a Bish
I struggle to really "get" his music, but I must admit he is an incredibly interesting man, I wish could have got at least one discussion with him.
I have very little knowledge of classical music, honestly, being much more focused on jazz. But 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY is one of my favorite films, and I literally cannot imagine it without Ligeti’s music.
I listened to Alex North's original score for "2001", and it just didn't have the dramatic impact of Ligeti's music.
Thank god he decided to go to budapest instead of Bucharest. The regime that was to come for us would have swallowed him up like he never existed, and that would have been the end of his story. From Budapest he had the opportunity to go to Wien, and the rest is history
It's a stretch to claim that Ligeti would inevitably have been disappeared in Bucharest. By the 1960s there were no longer restrictions on new music in Bucharest. That is why there was a Romanian spectralist school, and it even predates the more famous French spectralist school of Grisey and Murail by a couple of years.
seine musik ist sehr faszinierend.
The man who's music featuring in Godzilla 2014 all led me to this.
The old violinist is harsh at 16:57 ,
saying with keyboards you don't need an 'ear'!
True it is more difficult playing fretless instruments,
but either way, you still have to hear deeply to enter the music.
21:15 - ligeti on about his Requiem
Hearing his lifelong fascination with continuously static music, I have to wonder if anyone ever exposed him to ambient music from the pop music world: Brian Eno, Harold Budd, Steve Roach, William Basinski, Thomas Köner, Biosphere, Gas, etc. I'd want to hear his thoughts on Basinski's Disintegration Loops, in particular. Eno is also a similarly thoughtful person who is enjoyable to listen to. I wonder what a conversation between the two would be like, with one coming from the conservatories and the other from David Bowie and King Crimson, radio and mass entertainment.
It's like asking if a world famous five star chef has ever eaten the best kebab of New York or Berlin or Amsterdam.
Inappropriate.
Btw Disintegration loops is really something that people is starting to find overhyped. Just for curiosity, how many concerts of Ligeti's music have you attended? Internet is amazing, we can find everything... But many lacks of critical spirit and tend to compare parallel worlds...
@@tarukofusuki Thanks for the wholly incoherent analogy. And, of course, how silly of me to suggest that someone from the great, untouchable ivory towers of high musical authority, so far removed from the contemptible peasants below, would make an interesting conversational partner with someone as worthless and, quite frankly, imbecilic as an, *gasp*, untrained popular musician. O, the horror indeed. What next? Should we sit down Leoš Janáček with Cardi B? What on earth was I thinking???
@@tarukofusuki you seem to be quite close-minded, a lot more than Ligeti, who loved jazz, folk music, minimalistic and repetitive music. He even composed a rock style piece. Stockhausen was also a rock fan and contributed to its development. The separation between "five star" music and "kebab" music is only in your head.
@@arielorthmann4061 Lol, you think you are an open-minded person: but actually you are a "The wire" sapiens, an archaic human who has discovered too many artists with the explosion of Internet, and that actually can't even really figure out what he really likes because he listened to too many artists and, for this reason, couldn't shape a genuine personal taste. A distinctive sign of the "The wire" sapiens is that he tend to write in CZcams a bunch on names of artists who he likes. The species went extinct in the beginning of 2010s, maybe because of the many contradictions that characterised it.
Desintegration loops is one of the biggest scams of the story. It's very debatable that Ligeti could have appreciated it. Ligeti showed appreciation for Steve Reich, that's true, but minimalism doesn't worth a penny compared to what european composers did in the same period: when Reich composed Music for 18 musicians, in Europe we already had Cerha's Spiegel, and in the same period Grisey made Les espaces acoustiques... You surely know Reich's composition... Ever listened to the other two I named? Do you go to the concert season of the theater of your city?
Eno is an important artist, but there are many albums made by him who are not that great as they could have been considered decades ago.
If you like Ligeti, it's only because Kubrick, who was very distinct from a "The wire" sapiens, chose to use his music for his movies. Other great european composers didn't have the same luck, and they are still unknown... Meanwhile the "The wire" sapiens species is thinking about how great William Basinski or some shitful free improvisation stuff are! 🙉🐒🦍🦧
I was exactly like you. Then I understood I was helping the inflation of many artists that aren't worth much (in particular a bunch of US rubbish, but even european ones, like Arvo Pärt), that I was keeping with the opinion of some silly press (e.g. The wire) and some silly writers (e.g. Alex Ross).
@@tarukofusukiI personally do not enjoy desintegration music, nor do I enjoy pop music in general. I know Ligeti because I wrote a 30 page mémoire about his Etudes, and read about 500 pages worth of his writings (L'atelier du compositeur, 9 essais sur la musique, and écrits sur la musique et les musiciens). I personally also do not like Arvo Pärt's music, but you know about who people like you also said it was postmodernist rubbish ? Ligeti, when he wrote his 1982 horntrio.
Ligeti enjoyed not only Steve Reich but Bill Evans, Thelonious Monk. He found unmatched complexity in Aka Pygmees' and balinese music.
Again, Ligeti wrote a rock piece ("Hungarian Rock", look it up) and Stockhausen contributed to rock evolution, look it up.
If you want to know, my favorite composer is Galina Ustvolskaya, followed closely by Josef Matthias Hauer.
Ligeti enjoyed all types of music, and would never say one was "garbage", because he thought there was no such distinction. Such distinctions are only made by people who believe they are smarter than everyone else.
You seem to be very very full on yourself and self-centered. You would benefit getting a reality check.
What year was this film originally
made?
In 44:13 appears Kagel in two pictures. Kagel from Argentina, like Maradona y Messi. Nothing, just that
30:30 thought I was the only one who found the sound of massive applauding a little bit frightening
I'm curious to know about the art showed at around 19:22 thereabouts.
Hey Omri,
Any idea who the guy was speaking on the TV Ligeti is watching at 17:00? I wonder if the full video of that is anywhere.
No idea, sorry..
44:05 - The "?" after Stravinsky is Hindemith.
Corrected the original file.
The translation from french to english is poorly representative of what Ligeti is saying. Some words are changed (like foxes instead of wolves (loup) at 3:35), and some are simply arbitrarily taken off or added (like "electric" at 10:05 or "playfulness at 14:10)
Yes, curious - and about his childhood home, he clearly says, "C'est pas changée", and they translate "It has changed much." @ 4:46 Apparently wolves can change into foxes, and something that hasn't changed has!
And « paysage » means landscape, not passage.
Ligeti has a strong accent in French, but really, so many misunderstandings in the translation ! Like the subtitle "horror stories" (as if he'd said "histoires d'horreur") when he says "des histoires hongroises" ("Hungarian stories") :-D
I did the subtitles. I do not speak French. Had an African friend translate for me and he quit about 3/4 of the way through. Someone online finished using a translation website and sent it to me. Cheers
I did the subtitles and a friend translated it. I believe I still have the srt file. Can you provide more corrections?
The word "parody" should be "paradis" (paradise).
Did you read the description
At 14:13 the French says 'romper avec tout traditions", to break with,
not " the playfulness and all its traditions"!!
At 19:08, I think his brother was killed by the Nazis, not 'a racist'.
At 31:33 he says 'daring to put on ( montrer) his students a piece by Stravinski'
was" absoluement un crime"
Which gives Ligati's tone more fully than 'was not permitted'.
Too much science, too little art.
go back 4chan kiddo