(ENG SUB) Unpopular Opinion on SNSD Tiffany Covering Jessica's Lines Analysis Girls' Generation

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  • čas přidán 28. 02. 2020
  • #TiffanyYoung #SNSD #소녀시대
    How well did Tiffany Young Cover Jessica's lines after she left? There's a lot of hateful videos out there so this is an unbiased look and how how well these amazing singers sound.
    Maybe belongs in a Kpop Unpopular Opinions playlist?

Komentáře • 763

  • @RaShe105
    @RaShe105 Před 4 lety +4115

    Sometimes I feel like people don't appreciate Tiffany's vocal enough.

    • @ranyoung5794
      @ranyoung5794 Před 4 lety +48

      U right...but to blame tiffany is no.1...some fans brain is idiot...tiffany have husky voice..but now,fany voice like wooowww..

    • @thehainote1082
      @thehainote1082 Před 4 lety +59

      There’s a clear difference between appreciating someone’s vocals and blindly pretending that their vocals are flawless while they’re not. I like Tiffany’s voice way more than Seohyun’s voice, yet it doesn’t stop me from confirming loud and clear that Seohyun is clearly more proficient vocally than Tiffany. Tiffany’s main fortes are her lower registers, mid belts lower than B4, and her relaxed falsetto/headvoice (keyword, relaxed doesn’t mean the same as supported)

    • @albinorat4411
      @albinorat4411 Před 4 lety +22

      @@thehainote1082 criticism and hate are different you can criticize and try to be as objective as you can just dont hate

    • @aquaamethysttears5183
      @aquaamethysttears5183 Před 4 lety +4

      @@albinorat4411 maybe. But it's their opinion and preference. The problem lies on why people need to actually write their hate. I never liked Tiffany but I don't go spreading hateful words. Its true that sometimes I commented stuff like "after TTS debuted, it had been their vocal era" or "Tiffany doesn't fit this line of song". And honestly as a listener, her voice "irritates" me. But when I listened to their english cover songs, she was pretty good. When I heard her solo songs, it also showed her vocal prowess. I understood it then that Tiffany's Americanized style of singing doesn't complement the "cutesy or tamed" flavor of gg songs.

    • @keithhoward4069
      @keithhoward4069 Před 4 lety +11

      Her new solo work is fantastic. Her voice has so much character. I love "teach you." "Born again" and "Lips on lips". So good, very different from what Girls Gen did.

  • @arafadhwang4119
    @arafadhwang4119 Před 4 lety +1885

    i love how people is still talking about SNSD after all these times

    • @shanlie3505
      @shanlie3505  Před 4 lety +109

      I just can't seem to forget them ^^ these girilies are too active for that!

    • @multifandomedbutgirlsgener8913
      @multifandomedbutgirlsgener8913 Před 4 lety +38

      Arafad Hwang that's what happens when you're a legend

    • @vousmicccc7786
      @vousmicccc7786 Před 3 lety +7

      Because they are LEGEND,trust me ✋✋

    • @jhopejhoe973
      @jhopejhoe973 Před 3 lety +3

      For real it's like Netflix adding a fourth season to 13 reasons why, like chill the girl dead as hell.❤️

    • @keithhoward4069
      @keithhoward4069 Před 3 lety +4

      We all want them back. They are the Royalty of KPOP!

  • @pinkpanadalove2387
    @pinkpanadalove2387 Před 4 lety +2394

    This shouldn't even be considered unpopular, why can't they both be amazing?
    I notice SNSD always had toxic solo stans like Black pink sadly. True fans would have encouraged Tiffany and patted her on the back for doing her best. Tiffany sounds just as good as Jessica, these two are serving vocals

    • @sonerism4073
      @sonerism4073 Před 4 lety +9

      Agreed

    • @ranyoung5794
      @ranyoung5794 Před 4 lety +14

      Snsd alrdy have toxic when they debut even get black ocean..but now SNSD is Legendary Girl Group..Now The Queen alrdy kick the hater down 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Sone418
      @Sone418 Před 4 lety +16

      On top of some toxic solo stans people love to cosplay as Sones or Golden Stars to try to start fights within the fandom or hate on certain members. SNSD even on hiatus is still that threatening to them

    • @zacharikurbah6358
      @zacharikurbah6358 Před 3 lety

      Agreed

  • @IvonRocks15
    @IvonRocks15 Před 4 lety +640

    Tiffany sang that “In the galaxy” line with her WHOLE SOUL I-🤯😍🔥

    • @ryan2.097
      @ryan2.097 Před 3 lety +26

      In the galaxIEEYIEEEEIEEEEEE

    • @MatthewMobscene
      @MatthewMobscene Před 3 lety +43

      Amen, her high notes were a reset, she rebooted that song

    • @brandonchu5625
      @brandonchu5625 Před 3 lety +8

      My god this comment made my day. I laughed so hard 🤣🤣

    • @azaiatube9989
      @azaiatube9989 Před 3 lety +10

      The power in her vocals. Damnnn😂

  • @dafihale7139
    @dafihale7139 Před 4 lety +903

    Whatever. I love tiffany’s husky voice and always greedy for more

    • @ranyoung5794
      @ranyoung5794 Před 4 lety +25

      Her husky voice sexy...I don't care whtvr hater say

    • @augustmaiden3047
      @augustmaiden3047 Před 4 lety +14

      someone should make a compilation of her live vocals or something i'd love to watch it😍

    • @shreya446
      @shreya446 Před 4 lety +9

      absolutely 👏 my favorite soshi vocal

  • @KuyaBJLaurente
    @KuyaBJLaurente Před 4 lety +1811

    My 2 cents.
    I believe (as a Jessica-biased SONE) that Jessica is indeed irreplaceable, but Tiffany did what is expected of her. Tiffany covering Sica's lines sounds weird because of their different vocal color and texture, but as performers, you cannot let a hole in the wall remain as hole, and someone should cover that hole Jessica left. And SM felt that Tiffany is the best person to cover that hole for the most part (since Taeng already has a huge part vocally in GG). And Tiffany worked really hard to improve her vocals and overall artistry (since IMO she is more of a vocalist than dancer; remember their debut?). So I agree that nobody is better between Sica and Fany; both excel in their own rite. Sica is the best as Sica (the Ice Queen), and Fany is the best Fany (the Eye Smile Queen). And if Fany is nailing Sica's part, I think it's because of Fany's natural extrovert energy.

    • @shanlie3505
      @shanlie3505  Před 4 lety +144

      I agree. I think people get too caught up in these fantasy that Jessica was being "replaced"
      No one can ever replace her, not even SNSD would even want that. They never added a new 9th member because that spot belongs to Jessica since 2007. The only ones with the right to fill in for Jessica are her members and they split her lines quite evenly among the girls.

    • @wahyu6981
      @wahyu6981 Před 4 lety +44

      As Tiffany fans, i agree with you Jessica voice is special and Tiffany too. Jessica control is better than Tiffany, and now i realize Tiffany is going better. No one can replace Jessica for me. No one. I love both of them. Greeting from Sone 🙏

    • @xheralt
      @xheralt Před 4 lety +36

      One wonders why Sunny didn't pick up some of those lines instead, to my ear she had the vocal timbre next most similar to Jessica's. Or maybe do a three-way trade. Give Jessica's lines to Taeyeon, but then shift some of Taeyeon's lines to Tiffany (or other members). More work, but might have resulted in better end product? Distributing lines in k-pop songs is a delicate art, and a lot of internal considerations (vocal range, timbre, and member popularity) go into it.

    • @kb-ih7ni
      @kb-ih7ni Před 4 lety +18

      @@xheralt Yeah I don't understand why they had Tiffany do it, since her range is a lot lower and her voice huskier than Jessica's. This means not only does she have trouble hitting the notes, it's also a weird color for the lines themselves. Sunny definitely has a closer range, maybe even Seohyun for those delicate lines. I love Tiffany, and her voice is great, but her range just isn't up there. She's never been able to keep up with high notes, even in her own lines/songs, so I don't understand why they overloaded her with more.

    • @KuyaBJLaurente
      @KuyaBJLaurente Před 4 lety +37

      @@xheralt Regarding that, if you listen to all of the OT8 performances singing OT9 songs, you'll see that not all of Jessica's lines went to Tiffany. All of them got a share of Jessica's lines except Hyoyeon. This video particularly focused on Tiffany covering Sica's lines.
      As for Sunny covering Sica, listen to Mr. Mr. OT8 performance. I agree with you that she nailed Sica's verse.

  • @ianian7879
    @ianian7879 Před 4 lety +1360

    Fact: A lot of K-netizens are too toxic.

    • @alexdhamp
      @alexdhamp Před 4 lety +77

      It's usually I-netizens hating on Tiffany...with K-netizens hating on Jessica.

    • @andreahl3494
      @andreahl3494 Před 4 lety +74

      You mean netizens. The fact is, it's not just one country.

    • @leelee0505
      @leelee0505 Před 4 lety +4

      i just wonder what makes them so entitled and toxic.. what a sad world, honestly.

    • @ianian7879
      @ianian7879 Před 4 lety +12

      When in fact both fany and sica are both amazing. Just different singing styles but both were incredible. I wish they can be more appreciative. Sad world indeed

    • @syznkrm
      @syznkrm Před 4 lety +2

      sometimes I picture it as a taekwondo. they bow first but then talk smack to your face.😂

  • @rikaze
    @rikaze Před 4 lety +654

    Quick fact about vocals and singing. The note Tiffany struggles with is called the breaking point/register break. It's the note between a singer's lower and higher registers. They can sing notes above that breaking point perfectly, it's just this one note that usually is the problem, all singers have it and normally you either avoid it in the song (that's why they didn't give that part to Tiffany) or with lots of practice singers figure out a way to use a mixed voice to get through it. But the latter technique is hard to pull off when you're dancing and singing at the same time and catching your breath.

    • @thisisshineeworldandwereri8786
      @thisisshineeworldandwereri8786 Před 4 lety +19

      THAT’S WHAT IT ISSSS- For the longest time I had no idea what this was when I practiced my singing!

    • @milkywayymikey4638
      @milkywayymikey4638 Před 4 lety +19

      Agreee. Hitting note in that bridge part of our voice is soooooooo haaard.

    • @peachperfect1896
      @peachperfect1896 Před 3 lety +13

      Omg yasss the breaking point is alwayss the hardest part to sing

  • @sonnyragdc5432
    @sonnyragdc5432 Před 4 lety +1455

    Jessica has a very light voice and she knows how to manage her mixed voice, Tiffany has a heavy voice and she usually goes from the heavy to falsetto instead of mixing (no that this is a problem) that's why it seems like she "struggles" in some parts (or she actually struggles)
    Covering Jessica is not easy, she has the perks of someone with a cutesy featherlight voice and the perks of a main vocal with so much power (and it seems so easy for her)
    A tone like Jessica's is very unique, she had the parts that she had for a reason, Tiffany is different and has lines that were given to her because of her tone too

    • @huyhoangpham6237
      @huyhoangpham6237 Před 4 lety +40

      That why Jessica was a Main Vocal Beside Taeyeon

    • @sweethanie6713
      @sweethanie6713 Před 4 lety +3

      True

    • @radiantant4338
      @radiantant4338 Před 3 lety +30

      Agreee.. Technically jess is better than tiff.. But tiff did a good job to cover jess..

    • @onceland2867
      @onceland2867 Před 3 lety +40

      I agree. This proves that Jess isn’t playing with her main vocal title, she has really great technique to control her voice. Tiffany did improve quite much, but still not as versatile as Jessica.

    • @KB-ln4vc
      @KB-ln4vc Před 2 lety +2

      amazing answer you Put it in the right words

  • @wewantot8comeback251
    @wewantot8comeback251 Před 4 lety +871

    I have so much respect for Tiff bc she does everything live. Especially since coming to the US.
    Most idols continue to hide behind their bactracks. Tiffany is a REAL Vocalist

    • @leelee0505
      @leelee0505 Před 4 lety +44

      whenever she lip syncs, she only reallys does because she's sick, or was told to. so woohoo fany :DD

    • @cuapcuapahoy1373
      @cuapcuapahoy1373 Před 3 lety +2

      I agree

    • @cuapcuapahoy1373
      @cuapcuapahoy1373 Před 3 lety +8

      Tiffany's voice always make me surprised

  • @bosgotnojams
    @bosgotnojams Před 4 lety +209

    I'm more annoyed of "fans" that can't even tell if their idols are singing live or not and just make random assumptions.

  • @same3769
    @same3769 Před 4 lety +822

    To all the people hating on any member of SNSD.... But still call themselves *Sones* .... *YOU'RE OUT OF THE BAND* ..... *SONES* and *SNSD* are family ... We don't need toxic people ...

    • @bobhager2687
      @bobhager2687 Před 4 lety +4

      Believe as I do or you are out of the band......how tolerant you are of other opinions?!

    • @xheralt
      @xheralt Před 4 lety +12

      @@bobhager2687 I feel no need to be tolerant of opinions that directly exclude me from participation or membership in any given sphere. You are claiming to be intolerant of intolerance in the name of tolerance. And that's a rabbit hole that can recurse into infinity. You are also being absolutist. Tolerance or intolerance _of one thing_ is absolutely no indicator or tolerance or intolerance for other things, even related thinks like other k-pop groups; ONE data point does not equal a trend, which is what you are attempting say.

    • @bobhager2687
      @bobhager2687 Před 4 lety +1

      @@xheraltLOL Are you familiar with the term "word salad"?

    • @keithhoward4069
      @keithhoward4069 Před 4 lety +7

      As I am a latecomer to Girls Gen. I don't know the requirements to be a Sones :-). I love Girls Gen. music and wish I had known about them in time to have gone and seen them live. My first exposure to them was seeing lions heart on CZcams. I was hooked after that!

    • @Prinkles.
      @Prinkles. Před 4 lety

      Lucas X imagine calling people who have an opinion, toxic. Lmao

  • @AlyDia2
    @AlyDia2 Před 4 lety +293

    Tiffany and Jessica were always my biases in gg and I really like Jessica’s vocal tone in general so I tend to like Jessica’s version of the lines. I think in general Tiffany did really well covering Jessica, obviously they have VERY different sounds.

  • @priscillac3386
    @priscillac3386 Před 4 lety +607

    Many people think that Tiffany is guilty of Jessica's departure and they hate her for anything. For me tiffany does her job very well and always gives her best, her voice is very strong and beautiful and in many parts of Jessica that gave Fany she sounds amazing.

    • @dennisvillaflor3359
      @dennisvillaflor3359 Před 4 lety +7

      priscilla cerdas the problem is there is someone that is closer to jessica’s range. Tiffany is the furthest one vocally from jessica. Should have been sunny.

    • @priscillac3386
      @priscillac3386 Před 4 lety +9

      @@dennisvillaflor3359 It's about who does Jessica's part better, excluding taeyeon because if we talk about similar voices taeyeon would be the only one who can cover her. It is clear, tiffany is the best option to do it, when her voice is not exhausted it does very well and it sounds pretty cute

    • @aquaamethysttears5183
      @aquaamethysttears5183 Před 4 lety +11

      @@priscillac3386 i disagree. Tiffany and Jessica maybe similar in vocal range but their vocal tone is different as well as technique. When Tiffany sings Jessica's lines, it gives a different flavor in the whole song. There are lines that fit Tiffany but higher notes strains Tiffany's voice.
      Sunny's forte are her mid to high register while Seo's an expert in mid & mixed register. How will we know their capabilities if we haven't heard their take?
      I am a Jessica stan but I always believed that Sunny and Hyoyeon were always underrated, not giving them the chance to explore their vocal tones.

    • @priscillac3386
      @priscillac3386 Před 4 lety +6

      @@aquaamethysttears5183 So, what all the golden stars want is that Tiffany is not given a single line of Jessica when in many she is the only one that fits there. Look at Sunny they gave her the lines in which she fits and Tiffany too. Just because Tiffany doesn't like them doesn't mean she did a bad job.

    • @priscillac3386
      @priscillac3386 Před 4 lety

      @@aquaamethysttears5183and sorry, but seo is always in the top 3 of those with more lines. Until 2014, Tiffany was given the opportunity to be a true vocalist.

  • @shanlie3505
    @shanlie3505  Před 4 lety +349

    *For all my Lazy SONE out there*
    Gee - Jessica
    Divine - Both
    Paparazzi - Both (I prefer Tiff)
    RDR - Jessica
    The Great Escape - Both
    Blue Jeans - Jessica
    Galaxy Supernova - Tiffany
    Animal - Both (I prefer Tiff)
    Karma Butterfly - Both (I prefer Jess)
    All My Love for You - Jessica
    The Boys Japan - Tiffany
    The Boys Korean - Jessica

    • @priscillac3386
      @priscillac3386 Před 4 lety +2

      And bad girl?

    • @shanlie3505
      @shanlie3505  Před 4 lety +34

      Both again because both are lipsync lol
      I think Tiffany's is sexy but If I'm going back in time I don't want Jessica to lose her line. In perfect world they would both sing it haha
      I think for those girl crush/ dark songs like Bad girl, Galaxy Supernova or Animal No one can compete with Tiffany's sexy voice
      But for those light and fun songs like Gee or Blue Jeans or All my Love's for you Jessica reigns too cute and irreplaceable.

    • @chineloogbuju5345
      @chineloogbuju5345 Před 4 lety +3

      You should listen to Catch Me If You Can. :))If you haven't already:)))

    • @daniel.luis_
      @daniel.luis_ Před 4 lety +9

      Divine is better with Sica

    • @deborahcarvalho542
      @deborahcarvalho542 Před 4 lety +4

      I like Tiffany's version of Get Wild - it sounds amazing, and the last part of Whoah oh in The Great Escape. But my preferences of the other songs are in Jessica's voice. It's sad to see that I won't ever see Jessica perform Divine.

  • @shanlie3505
    @shanlie3505  Před 4 lety +210

    My "Unpopular Opinion's" Take on Tiffany covering Jessica (or honest that is). People are so freaking mean to Tiffany and make up this imaginary fence and you either have to be 100% ON Sica or Tiffs side or your a fake fan like wtf both are fine? Being a Tiffany fan is so hard, she tries so much and is honestly one of the best singers but she is hated on so much for every little thing, it reminds me of Blackpink lisa a little...

    • @Daineee24365
      @Daineee24365 Před měsícem

      I know this video is from 4 yrs ago but as a youngone(Fany's fandom), Sone and lilies. It's really hard to see my biases get hated for something they didn't do and they don't have control off. They do worked hard for everything that's why over the years i'm still here supporting SNSD, supporting Tiffany all the way to their solo careers. 😊

  • @carolineoliveira2504
    @carolineoliveira2504 Před 4 lety +358

    Thanks for not blaming Jess for lip sinck like everyone does, it was amazing!! People can't understand that idols can't choose how they'll perform, that's a shit.
    I really like your video!! Tiffany was attacked enough!! Finally someone impartial.

    • @shanlie3505
      @shanlie3505  Před 4 lety +64

      Yeah I find it so stupid, like sure she lip sang, but so did everyone else so who cares?
      Idols perform hundreds of times a year for their comebacks, they can't do them all live. For every 10 lip sung performances there are 50 live ones. And the Japanese songs just had less chances to be performed since they are a Korean group singing in korea...

    • @carolineoliveira2504
      @carolineoliveira2504 Před 4 lety +8

      @@shanlie3505 God, I love u!! This is exactly what I think. People r so dumb and boring, It tires me

    • @clasioaz6660
      @clasioaz6660 Před 4 lety +8

      toxic people all of them can do is blaming idols for lipsinc.. like everyone does it..who cares? even if its lipsinc still those are their voices.. like what's wrong with that.. idols are human too..

    • @keithhoward4069
      @keithhoward4069 Před 4 lety +6

      @@shanlie3505 I won't throw stones here. I guess that's how you do it in Kpop. But it is really frowned upon in US artist's performances. Go live or go home. A lot of US artists lose their good reputation for lip-syncing. Tiffany upholds those American standards. When you pay for a live concert, that is what you get with Tiffany, not a recording.

    • @josecv9444
      @josecv9444 Před 4 lety +16

      I’m gonna be really objetive here, she had a Main vocalist tittle right? In that case she kinda deserves the criticism for the extreme playback abuse. She should have been the one singing live along with Taeyeon until the end, and didn’t happened.
      Jessica herself admited that she did playback meanwhile Taeyeon did all the job alone, apologizing for it. (Do some research and you will find the article)
      People still don’t get why Taeyeon stopped milking the interactions with her and started to ignore her full force, this is one of the reasons, most of jessica fans can’t admit she was a fraud on her position and didn’t stand out to the tittle, and that’s a fact. even myself was a fan and I could notice that most of her performances were not live. Meanwhile TTS has to carry the live singing she just didn’t.
      And that’s why lot of jessica stans hates TTS until today, they think Tiffany stole the spot but she gained the spot for her hard work and passion and if jessica wa left behind was for her own lack of interest.
      And this needs to be talked because most of her fanbase stills shading others with this being a fact.

  • @April_Vicious
    @April_Vicious Před 4 lety +134

    I wonder if sones ever thought about how difficult it would be to all of a sudden have to cover your close friends’ parts Also imagine if it was reversed & how hard it would be for Jessica to cover Tiffany’s lines

    • @keithhoward4069
      @keithhoward4069 Před 4 lety +7

      I love them both, but you are correct. Jessica just couldn't fill the hole Tiffany's departure would have made. Her voice is beautiful, but she just can't hit the lower notes at the volume needed. They are both gifted singers but Jessica's lower range projection is more limited. (but her highs are great)

    • @tiffanyhwang2590
      @tiffanyhwang2590 Před 4 lety +11

      @@keithhoward4069 actually jessica has the best lower register of the group and fany comes next, but i agree Tiffany's tone in the lower register is unparalleled even by the likes of taeyeon and Jessica

    • @keithhoward4069
      @keithhoward4069 Před 4 lety +2

      @@tiffanyhwang2590 , You're just being humble, I love that about you. God bless. You know your Girls, so I bow to your wisdom on this. Thanks for setting me straight. I am honored to hear from you. I love your songs and your good heart. (but you really belt out those notes in a special way that no one else in SNSD can)

    • @khusyaiirie
      @khusyaiirie Před 2 lety +2

      @@keithhoward4069 you really thought that was real Tiffany lmao what the fuck

  • @vashtify4654
    @vashtify4654 Před 4 lety +158

    Jessica has really unique sound and Fany’s voice is huskier that’s why they aren’t the same
    I’m gonna agree on the last one tho!!
    But there is also something important with snsd: Sunny’s voice really matches Sica’s so they got lots of parts together! And Sunny’s voice doesn’t flow so ideally with Fany’s voice ;(

  • @deborahcarvalho542
    @deborahcarvalho542 Před 4 lety +112

    Tiffany's stage presence is another level. She's truly an artist.

  • @ajandbp9211
    @ajandbp9211 Před 4 lety +119

    Its obvious SNSD would be having a hard time covering Jess' part. I think Tiff was bold and strong enough to take the challenge especially with how different their tones are. She's brave.
    realistically speaking Jessica's voice is everywhere in an snsd song from solo lines, harmonies, adlibs and her voice is easily distinguished in most chorus. There are songs that almost does not sound like an snsd song after an ot8 performance.

  • @srieyfarhan
    @srieyfarhan Před 3 lety +37

    I know tiffany voice might not be perfect sometimes, but i really love her energy and confident when she sing live..thats make the performance worth to watch :-)

  • @pickleslicker
    @pickleslicker Před 4 lety +183

    Tbh the people who hate on Tiffany's vocals are usually the ones who hate her and just want to say something bad about her. -especially some people that we've all-
    -seen on youtube lol- She and Jessica are different people, of course it's not going to sound same. Just like when Taeyeon or other members covered Jessica's part. They all sing it in their own styles BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT VOICES.

    • @Maltcandyxp
      @Maltcandyxp Před 4 lety +7

      YES DIFFERENT IS THE KEY!!! They're really just mean and deluded people out to hurt the girls in my opinion :-(

  • @oliviafloyd2751
    @oliviafloyd2751 Před 4 lety +27

    I saw Tiffany live in October of last year and she killed every single note in her set. SM worked her to the bone. She never got time to properly rest her voice when she was with the group. She hit notes I never thought she’d be able to and she did it with ease. Tiffany can sing much better than we all think. She just needs to properly take care of her voice.

  • @febyolamegad9156
    @febyolamegad9156 Před 4 lety +148

    it's a good decision for Tiffany to reduce her activity in Korea, knetz and these haters never appreciate her vocal and everything she did. She worked so hard but this is what she got.

  • @jessicainezkarina4608
    @jessicainezkarina4608 Před rokem +5

    honestly, i am more like tiffany version, she brought the song in the new version, and i think she sounds more sexy, mature and strong. And I think the song is more lively than before. (no hard feeling, just my opinions)

  • @girlsgenerationaregoddesse8508

    Tiffany can sing very well , you guys just hate her and like to talk shit about her vocals 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @amyloves_snsd
    @amyloves_snsd Před 4 lety +22

    I'll try to add some vocal technique perspectives to this video. Everything I say here will be purely technical and I will NOT analyze vocal color, tone, or how well their voices fit the style of a song. In Gee, both Jessica and Tiffany are straining those high notes, but Jessica is able to maintain a mixed voice in all notes, while Tiffany switches to falsetto on the word "yeah" because it is out of her range. Tiffany's has a general problem with her mixed voice being too loud while her falsetto being too soft, so the volume becomes inconsistent when she switches between the two registers.
    In Divine, Tiffany was breaking down so did quite well putting that into consideration. In a technical perspective, she was straining and unstable on the word "one" and had the same problem with the breaking point between the lower and upper register when switching to falsetto, but the part with full falsetto after that was heavenly. Sliding from mixed voice to falsetto is very difficult and many vocalists struggle with this. On the studio version, Jessica indeed had a smoother transition between the lower and upper register, and her ending note had more resonance. She was likely autotuned tho, so it's not a fair comparison.
    For all the parts in Paparazzi, they were both in their supported range, but Tiffany was less nasal than Jessica. Jessica has persistent issues with nasality. Some people find Tiffany's voice to be sexy for her huskiness, while some people find Jessica's voice to be alluring for her nasality (because it sounds like a cat). Technique-wise, nasality is a flaw, so Tiffany takes the cake in this one.
    The following songs are all lip-synced or autotuned so I will skip them.
    In AMLIFY, Jessica demonstrated a VERY smooth transition from a soft falsetto to a strong mixed belting. This is Tiffany's weakness as I mentioned before. For the high notes, they are out of Tiffany's vocal range so she sounds unstable.
    Lastly in The Boys, both of them were unstable but Tiffany did better overall because she is good at low notes. Jessica's notes were mostly shaky and at the edge of cracking, while Tiffany's voice was generally more upfront despite being slightly unstable in a few notes.
    They both have their strengths and weakness, but Jessica is the stronger vocalist overall with a wider vocal range, better transition between registers, a more stable voice, and a higher frequency of achieving resonance. Her weaknesses include an occasional tendency to crack, pitchy high notes, and serious nasality. Tiffany is a decent vocalist, she has a well-supported lower register, a powerful projection, and better musicianship. Her weaknesses include detached registers, instability and very noticeable straining on high notes, and poor volume control.

  • @FstyleXD
    @FstyleXD Před 4 lety +26

    i love tiffany's "in the galaxy"

  • @evergalde551
    @evergalde551 Před 2 lety +15

    I can't stop repeating 2:31 it's so beautiful .she has such a masterful voice. very refined. I Love it

  • @sisilosk3245
    @sisilosk3245 Před 4 lety +18

    That divine high note was a masterpiece and Tiff looked beautiful while crying didn't even know people hated it like how ? It's perfect .. Tiffany gives more life to her lines she changes things when it's live and that what a real artist do .

  • @jay-watzz
    @jay-watzz Před 4 lety +48

    What did y'all think was gonna happen? Tiffany mimic Jessica's voice in every way? They're both different people to begin with, 2 voices, 2 different artists who interpret it differently, 1 singing parts not written for her. Love this video. Y'all haters need to get a life.

  • @vin5623
    @vin5623 Před 3 lety +34

    I would love to hear more of Tiffany singing that "In the galaxy" line.

  • @keithhoward4069
    @keithhoward4069 Před 3 lety +14

    Wow, I really like Tiffany's live performance in the Galaxy song better. That girl can belt it out so beautifully!

  • @holyshieet
    @holyshieet Před 4 lety +33

    I love you for always defending Tiffany, she is so pure. I love her so much and she doesn't deserve all the hate she's getting. If these people only knew what Tiffany sacrifices just to be an idol and her struggles when she became one, I wonder if they can say a word to her. My heart really cries for Tiffany.

  • @sherrie8221
    @sherrie8221 Před 4 lety +18

    Tiffany has a beautiful voice .

  • @eisharehman821
    @eisharehman821 Před 2 lety +8

    When i first saw snsd Tokyo dome live of galaxy supernova i didn't know much about snsd yet but i remember thinking the girl singing in the galaxy yeahhh was so gooodd... Now that i m a sone its so weird to find out that Tiffany was criticized for that performance

  • @jiasone
    @jiasone Před 4 lety +28

    i'm so obsessed with that tiffany's oo la la la.

  • @antrite08
    @antrite08 Před 4 lety +43

    I want to forget 2014 all together and it's sucks some people can't do anything but try and tear others down i miss jessica in snsd so much i'm sure it still hurts the other members not having her with them so all this hate just seems stupid hating on her and tiffany like ughh

  • @allenallen6719
    @allenallen6719 Před 4 lety +55

    I think they hit different cuz Tiffany and Jessica have very different voice pitchs, Jessica sounds more girlish and high pitched, gives the "forever young" vibe, the eternal barbie girl. Tiffany on the other hand has an stronger pitch, powerful and deep, mature feeling. eatch one of them delivers a different feeling for every song.
    They are both amazing and I'm so proud of my girls, stop making them look bad like the hate eatch other, when they are really great friends. Toxic Soshis are the worst.

  • @itgetsworse601
    @itgetsworse601 Před 4 lety +43

    I am sick of people commenting badly about Tiffany like get a life

  • @yadicast7685
    @yadicast7685 Před 4 lety +36

    OMG FINALLY! I have no words...
    If I am honest, I am guilty of watching those “comparisons” between Sica and Tiffany, I should emphasize though that I do it not because I think one is better than the other but it is because is my guilty pleasure. Sica and Tiffany’s voices are so PLEASURABLE to hear I like to listen to how each one of them sound. Like Idk...
    I have always thought that Tiffany and Sica give off this special vibe... I... I am struggling for words here because I don’t know how to explain it they (to me) are like both sides of the same coin. Both exude this confidence and classy feeling. Both are queens, actually I have always dreamed about how TTS would have looked with Taeyeon, Tiffany and Jessica... for me it would be like heaven blessed us.
    I can recognize just how legendary Sica and Taeyeon sounded when singing together and let’s not talk about their harmonies... GOD.
    You mentioned all the songs in which I prefer Tiffany’s voice like “The great scape”, “Animal” and “Galaxy supernova”.
    I don’t why people like to put down one member so their bias can “shine”. That’s just... ridiculous.
    I am Tiffany biased but I get excited every time I listen to other members solo stages, concerts or special stages because is the only opportunity they get to shine and demonstrate just how much of a talented singer each one of them are. Every one of them with their and within their abilities but always giving their best.
    I can’t simply put in one comment how much I like JeTi... they are awesome.
    Really, really thank you so so much for this video.
    PS: idk if I expressed myself correctly and I still feel I couldn’t express what I wanted hahaha
    Sorry for the long comment.

  • @keizsa
    @keizsa Před 3 lety +13

    Fany's vocal in divine is so heavenly and it's soothing 😍

  • @wonpiriku3050
    @wonpiriku3050 Před 4 lety +82

    I'm so glad you made a video like this.. I also am so tired to see Jessica's fans talk trash with Tiffany's voice.. Damn! They both have like different tones.. Why can't u guys just accepting the fact that THEY'RE DIFFERENT BUT BOTH BEAUTIFUL in their own way?! Sorry I may look a bit mad.. Lol.. Thank youu :)

    • @Maltcandyxp
      @Maltcandyxp Před 4 lety +8

      You're right, both tiffany's and jessica's fans that pit each fandom against the other should be ashamed of themselves, they obviously have very different singing tones and above all they're different humans, how can they be expected to sing in the same way the audience wants 🧐

  • @enivid1201
    @enivid1201 Před 3 lety +7

    I love Tiffany's voice!!!! especially when she does it LIVE~~~~

  • @kenmasugarbaby1946
    @kenmasugarbaby1946 Před 4 lety +8

    tiffany did her high note so well on the divine performance

  • @capnjace848
    @capnjace848 Před 4 lety +48

    I honestly love how Tiffany's voice sounds like it has its own echo. It's just 😍

  • @sasswrurrr4423
    @sasswrurrr4423 Před 4 lety +52

    Tiffany and Jessica can't be compared to one another. They can't never have the same voice and tone...but tiffany just did what she was told by SM so i'm sad to see her being criticized.

  • @seojuhyun2896
    @seojuhyun2896 Před 4 lety +21

    Different doesn't mean bad. Yas

  • @junyidu5618
    @junyidu5618 Před 4 lety +31

    Tiffany’s powerful voice is hit my heart. If Jessica like a girlfriend, then Tiffany is my husband hahahahahaha

  • @_tiffany_universe
    @_tiffany_universe Před 4 lety +44

    First of all, I just wanna say, *THANK YOU FOR NOT BEING BIASED TO YOUR OPINION T-T* because honestly, I'm already sick and annoyed at J fans, saying bad things to Tiff,.. how could they hear close ears those amazing lines that Tiffany covers on j lines... especially that Galaxy Supernova, and DIVINE, GAHDDDD Tiff made it on an ANOTHER LEVEL! I prefer Tiff version, cuz she has such confidence and power in singing it live T_T but credits to Jessica for having a version of low and sweet tone, but I really love how Tiffany made it more engage and exciting to hear, I feel all the energy and confidence through it, makes me jam even more to the beat, and I didn't even realize how she made it while belting.

    • @Maltcandyxp
      @Maltcandyxp Před 4 lety +10

      A lot of people also diss jessica's because she has this tone that not everyone likes? Like you either hate it or love it... poor tiffany and jessica, it's just the deal with toxic fans, don't understand why they can't appreciate that the fact is all the girls are the top crop of singing auditions that's how they debuted 😔🌸

    • @multifandom8274
      @multifandom8274 Před 4 lety

      do you realize that its SEA fans whose being so toxic over tiffany (or even Jessica).
      I don't want to mention the country, I love my country but yea, it's peenoise.

  • @ani8403
    @ani8403 Před 3 lety +3

    Gosh I watch this on 2021 and got goosebumps at Tiffany singing Jessica's part on 'the boys'. Love her 🤧🤧🤧

  • @elijahsstyle
    @elijahsstyle Před 4 lety +258

    Really tiffany shouldve been a main vocalist.
    Here's the real tea about being a main vocalist in kpop : in kpop who ever has the best vocals and the best range is the main vocalist. But if that main vocalist leaves the lead will become the main.
    But in tiffany case : she doing a perfect job and she has main vocal abilities. It doesnt matter that she has a hard time hitting the note. All that matters is that she can hit it. And thats how it is in kpop. It doesnt matter what u do to hit it. It just matters that u hit it. Besides as a singer myself there were always times where I had a hard time singing a high note but I still could hit the note. So I'm pretty sure after a while of hitting that note your voice will adjust and after a while it will become easy. Remember everyone singing range can grow.

    • @venusgarcia372
      @venusgarcia372 Před 4 lety +21

      She did/does not have what it takes to be a main vocalist, saying this about Seohyun would be reasonable, but Tiffany? The girl can't sing anymore. She strains every single note that comes out of her mouth; she sounds like she struggles

    • @elijahsstyle
      @elijahsstyle Před 4 lety +21

      @@venusgarcia372 u shouldn't hate to get your point across to somebody I also think seohyun could be a main vocal. But this video is focused on tiffany so I am focusing on my opinion about her.

    • @wewantot8comeback251
      @wewantot8comeback251 Před 4 lety +27

      @@venusgarcia372 lol that us such a lie I feel bad for you 🤣 Tiffany be slaying high notes like butter she rarely strains anymore than any other singer.
      The only ppl that think singers sound perfect all the time are the ones who think those fake lip sync perfs are real.
      Hell even Taeyeon struggled when she promoted FINE. Almost every live sounded like her throat was splitting.
      All singers have bad eras with the great ...
      Tiffany's flawless performances in the video proove u wrong anyways so stay delulu and pressed.

    • @thaynecho
      @thaynecho Před 4 lety +6

      @@wewantot8comeback251 Well Taeyeon was sick and the hate affected her a lot, Tifanny has a beautiful voice and could easily be on the level of Taeyeon and Jessica, but her technique is just bad (and this is coming but from someone who isn't a singer or study music, but I have friends who sing and i really saw a lot of debates about this) I don't know if she changed today and is better but her technique just hurt her vocal chords, sometimes she can't hold the note because of breathing or probably sore throat, and she sometimes shouts her high notes. I listened her first album and is so much better than anything she did with SNSD (singing wise) it just fits her voice and isn't out of her range

    • @bananabong8928
      @bananabong8928 Před 4 lety

      @@venusgarcia372 and you too

  • @sevenbelledays7800
    @sevenbelledays7800 Před 4 lety +14

    I love tiffany's versions especially Divine, She's my bias, but those parts where made for Jessica's tone , and OT9 forever 😭😭😭💖

  • @jiayi4565
    @jiayi4565 Před 3 lety +15

    If i sang a high note like Tiffany, i would have sounded like a dying goat

  • @givemesuperpowers
    @givemesuperpowers Před 3 lety +54

    I prefer Tiffany's vocals myself, but I agree that neither sang better than the other. Fany fighting! Sica fighting! SoShi fighting!

  • @anwarakkad4020
    @anwarakkad4020 Před 3 lety +3

    Tiffany fits paparazzi much more imo

  • @muhammadfarhansitorus589

    You should put all Tiffany covers. She received so much hate since 2014. Tiffany unlike other idols who singing live with a bad vocals. Her covering in Galaxy Supernova was a good point.

  • @benjaminsotocornejo3653
    @benjaminsotocornejo3653 Před 4 lety +22

    Well, since Jessica supports F#3-C5 (D5) and Tiff F#3-Bb4 (B4), it’s obvious that Tiff will struggle to do high notes that for Jess are easier. However, when Tiff is around a middle-low range, she does fine.

  • @tinyGiraffasaurus
    @tinyGiraffasaurus Před 11 měsíci +2

    i enjoy when other members do other member’s parts, regardless of circumstance. it’s neat hearing different takes on iconic parts 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @jeslyneho807
    @jeslyneho807 Před 3 lety +7

    Both Tiffany and Jessica are great vocalists. Since early debut era, in my opinion, before Seohyun receive more lines and her vocals became stronger, I always think Jess Tiff and Taeyeon are the OG best vocalists in Snsd.
    It is fact that Jessica’s presence in some Snsd songs are so strong like eg Paparazzi as u said; however Jess and Tiff has different vocal characteristics. Tiff is bolder, stronger, while Jess tend to be sweet and soothing.
    I believe it is never easy for Tiff to replace Jess’s parts remembering the difference between their vocal’s characteristics as well, but if she’s put to replace her in most songs for the powerful notes, it must be for a reason 💁‍♀️ and Tiff did so well in her own way. She doesn’t copy 100% Jess’s style and that’s actually good for Sone like me bcs I’m like having the 2 versions of the songs now, in which both are good... just different.. but not at all in a bad way,, u know
    Like totally agree w/ u in All my love is for you, Jess’s vocal really matches the song... meanwhile in The Boys Tiff vers, u can’t deny the swag and it’s like a totally different song for me, ahahah.
    Anw in my opinion both girls did great.. fans who bully/criticize Tiffany can’t even sing as good as her right ;)

  • @silly_hue-wheat
    @silly_hue-wheat Před rokem +3

    they can actually just distribute Jessica's lines in two section, the soft cutie tone required lines should go to Sunny, and the powerful parts should go to Tiffany

  • @lykalu8220
    @lykalu8220 Před 4 lety +12

    All I care about right now is if I'm still going to get a Jeti colab before I die of old age. I've been playing Talk to me on Spotify after it's release repeatedly thinking about my favorite American duo.

  • @hayetfany2682
    @hayetfany2682 Před 4 lety +5

    I support all snsd members, its sad that Jessica left, i love tiffany's voice ,no matter what. No can be perfect all the time.

  • @ariprinpsei
    @ariprinpsei Před 2 lety +5

    Tiffany is my bias in GG. I love her stage presemce and personality.

  • @Princess-od1ms
    @Princess-od1ms Před 4 lety +28

    Tiffany sings her parts plus Jessica's parts. That itself is Queen attitude, c'mon! Tiffany and Jessica both QUEENS 👑 #GG4EVA

  • @Maria308.
    @Maria308. Před 2 lety +6

    Seriously tiffany voice is heaven I don't understand the one's who hate her voice

  • @azaiatube9989
    @azaiatube9989 Před 3 lety +12

    Appreciations for Tiffany for choosing to sing live most of the time

  • @jqxx2538
    @jqxx2538 Před 4 lety +14

    This is what is so amazing about Tiffany, her undying energy, love, and presence on stage. She may not the best dancer or vocalist in SNSD but is definitely the one with the most consistent stage presence.

  • @playfullpanda5283
    @playfullpanda5283 Před 3 lety +4

    dang girl.. you hit every points! same like me. i do like tiffany's version and jessica's version in certain songs. like both of them did great job

  • @ezras.143
    @ezras.143 Před 4 lety +14

    Tiffany did amazing periodt.

  • @whitepuppychannel2374
    @whitepuppychannel2374 Před 4 lety +13

    The divine one was amazing! Tif has a completely different voice comparing to Jess. Jess has a sweet, light voice, whereas Tif has a heavy gawky voice. However, tif’s skill is really good, and her cover of Jess was somehow great. Because tiff’s voice was different, everyone throwing hate left n right to her. Plus point: I really TIFF’s falsetto so much.

  • @Angel-oj4zs
    @Angel-oj4zs Před 4 lety +5

    Proud of Tiffany for trying Galaxy live. She can't do the notes but it great to attempt. I am also not sure if Jessica could actually sing this live. I guess we will never know

  • @rholic4774
    @rholic4774 Před 4 lety +43

    For me Jessica voice is similar to Taeyeon but her voice is nasal.

    • @itsmeroni4719
      @itsmeroni4719 Před 3 lety +1

      I agree very similar just more nasally. I never understood why most of her high notes didn’t go to Taeyeon or Seohyun. And Sunny has that light girly tone kind of like Jessica as well

    • @autumnspring1960
      @autumnspring1960 Před 3 lety

      That’s because they had the same vocal coach, that’s why they sound similar because their techniques are the same. While Tiffany, I believe she was coached by a different teacher ^^

    • @amaraiola
      @amaraiola Před 3 lety +1

      I’m glad I’m not the only who thought that their voices were similar

    • @Emily-tm6wf
      @Emily-tm6wf Před 3 lety

      That's why i don't miss jessica's voice, it's nasal and taeyeon replaces her without a problem

  • @ayuktadjuddin
    @ayuktadjuddin Před 2 lety +3

    Maybe it's all about preference... To me, I love Tiffany's voice character way more than Jessica's since the first time I listened to SNSD. Idk why I always feel worried (I don't know a proper word for this tbh hehe) when hearing Jessica sings the high notes. But anyway...they sing very well in the group!

  • @thisisshineeworldandwereri8786

    I honestly love Tiffany’s version of The Boys so much. I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to think this

  • @annejay4964
    @annejay4964 Před 3 lety +2

    I love these analysis so much and 100% agree with your take on The Boys. Sica did really great with the majority of her lines but man The Boys Tiffany version is something I wished we had more off. Tiffany had the rawness to it, the grunt and slight unstable delivery yet sounded so good because of how confident she delivered it while having fun. I love that in a singer, take it, have fun with it and make it your own.

  • @user-mx2lm6hn8w
    @user-mx2lm6hn8w Před 3 lety +3

    tbh i like her highnote at divine without comparing to jessica , tiffany’s version is beautiful

  • @rrokr6937
    @rrokr6937 Před 4 lety +2

    Both also best👍🏿I love Tiffany more,she is my bias❤️❤️

  • @gracebloom125
    @gracebloom125 Před 4 lety +6

    At 2:30 tiffany did a Damn good job at singing tht part. I love it so much. She hit all the notes perfectly yet still gets hate. I'm disappointed in the fans

  • @msichanahuzuni
    @msichanahuzuni Před 3 lety +2

    I'm so glad you made this video. I love Jessica & was just as hurt & confused when the announcement was made but I will never understand the hate Tiffany gets for just doing what SM told her to do 0

  • @Oktobesad6868
    @Oktobesad6868 Před rokem +1

    They both amazing🥰they are irreplaceable

  • @JamesJL
    @JamesJL Před 4 lety +10

    Just a random thought but Tiffany covering Jessica's part in Galaxy Supernova during their Tokyo Dome performance still gives me chills to this day like that girl put her SOUL into that note.

  • @STANFORLOVE
    @STANFORLOVE Před 3 lety +1

    miss that time,,they are really great girl group even untill now,,I love another girl group right now but can't change how I feeling for snsd, they are really legend

  • @isaackid09
    @isaackid09 Před 4 lety +1

    I LIVE FOR THIS VIDEO. THANK YOU. love from Malaysia ❤

  • @jadesarimos8046
    @jadesarimos8046 Před 4 lety +54

    Let's take this example.
    What if Jessica covers the lines of Tiffany? I don't think it will be as good as tiffany's.
    Bc original is always the better, no matter what. You can compare them, but they really are good in their own ways.
    And I really miss Ot9 GG. 😭

    • @deborahcarvalho542
      @deborahcarvalho542 Před 4 lety +5

      Jessica covering the iconic line "DJ, put back on" sounded so wrong. She did not make any mistake, her voice was on point but this line is owned by Tiffany. You can't hear it without thinking about Tiffany and her eye smile.
      All of this shit why Tiffany's sounds horrible is because Jessica's gone for good from SNSD. These replacements won't be temporary.

  • @ringsana
    @ringsana Před 3 lety +9

    "Tiffany sounds like she's about to crush you with confidence" oh yee she is...

  • @rjcapadiso6871
    @rjcapadiso6871 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm now starting to love this channel❤️
    Statements are correct and not biased.

  • @WardenJohn
    @WardenJohn Před 4 lety +8

    I'd give just about anything to hear them all performing live again together.

    • @keithhoward4069
      @keithhoward4069 Před 4 lety

      Yes. They never did an full American tour. Please Girls Gen, come do a tour again. This time in The USA too. One more come back PLEASE!

  • @RiRi-ku6xz
    @RiRi-ku6xz Před 3 lety +2

    I didn't know snsd well
    But I know ppl love to hate on tiffany
    For some reason and I don't understand why

  • @H_eraq.05yi
    @H_eraq.05yi Před 2 lety +11

    100% agreed, you have missed ''Bad Girl'' one more, Tiffany's cover is really amazing and hit Jessica's high note perfectly better. Jessica's voice sound smooth and sweet while Tiffany's voice is strong enough to kill the haters, both of them truly are best vocalists with different style of singing. You may sound unfamiliar with tiffany cover but she did a great job and sound very good.

  • @valre7441
    @valre7441 Před 4 lety +28

    At first im about to throw everythings out if the boys doesnt count and in the end im like IKR WOHOOO SOMEONE'S AGREE WITH ME. And divine of course she's really killin it with that emotion and makes me want to cry more but if Jessica had a chance to sing it live maybe she will get me out of tears in my room.
    But really u should take a look at how Tiffany did it in a concert where they all wearing white fur outfits (the boys) . And don't get me wrong ladies i'm a big fan of Jessica and Tiffany (im a JeTi trash actually) in case you don't know...

    • @Maltcandyxp
      @Maltcandyxp Před 4 lety +4

      "Maybe she will get me out of tears in my room" cracked me up, all about the crying huh 😌

  • @friesthug6558
    @friesthug6558 Před 4 lety +4

    I really love Jessica's voice. Idk. It's so sweet.

  • @tobleronemina7998
    @tobleronemina7998 Před 4 lety +6

    Look at the one with the huskiest and the one with softest voices rocking each song equally!

  • @Maya_Renee
    @Maya_Renee Před 2 lety +3

    I think on softer notes/songs like Gee, I think someone like Sunny or Yoona could sing it nicer/prettier since they have more of a softer voices than Tiffany, but on songs like Divine, Tiffany definitely owns the note now.
    I hate when people give Tiffany so much hate , they can’t let the part go empty and it makes sense that Tiffany was to get the parts.

  • @Navillera9224
    @Navillera9224 Před 3 lety +4

    This is the most objective video I've seen about their two voices. I hate those fans that always want to talk bad about Tiffany's performances after Jessica's departure, both girls have heavenly voices and even though some songs suited one of them more than the other it doesn't mean the other didn't do a good job making her own version. Let's just spread love not hate.

  • @tiffanyzachbalita2654
    @tiffanyzachbalita2654 Před 3 lety +1

    I don't understand many of people hate tiffany so much .. tiffany is a good person she try very hard for everything she do..

  • @chabela3025
    @chabela3025 Před 4 lety

    I didn't even watch it yet but I'm always super excited whenever i see new yt videos with soshi content.

  • @mewgulf4301
    @mewgulf4301 Před 3 lety +2

    Tiffany SING LIVE is PROVEN.

  • @SNSDanielRamz
    @SNSDanielRamz Před 4 lety +1

    I love this video, thanks, true snsd lovers ❤️