(ENG SUB) SNSD Tiffany Got Mad Trying to Protect Jessica (Girls' Generation)
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- čas přidán 14. 02. 2020
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RADIOSTAR Pushes the harassment too far on Jessica and SNSD members and Tiffany get's really sassy with them. English Subtitles
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the day Jessi comes onto this show is the day they their memorial service will be held.
I believe she's already made an appearance on this show
@@y0ung5one ironically enough after her apperance show really started to get "cancelled" and such stuff
Exactly she will end them
YES I watched the episode where Jessi came on and she hella fired back at the hosts, especially Kim Gu-Ra!! She exposed tf out of him because he was rude to her on another show: on that other show, he tried to make her do aegyo but she kept refusing, and behind cameras he told her, "You should do what you're told." He kept trying to hide this and she called him TF OUT for lying. It was wonderful, I recommend watching this episode.
@@ApatheticRobot do you know the episode number?
Tiffany’s eyes can either be cute or scary.
so true haha
Very true lmao
How do u think her and jessi are friends both of them don't take shit ever
I FOUND HIS JAMS HAHAHAH 👍🏻
seulgibear😍 (just realised your pfp is seulgiii)
Tiffany being American is a blessing in the group in times like these. She doesn't give a shit and calls out anyone who needed to be call out. She doesn't just sit there and take it. This is why I love her. Sunny and Fanny are my fave SNSD members.
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Naaaaah!!! Nothing being an American.its just her personality lol.nyef nyef nyef don't over talk
For real, that was some West Coast California attitude calling out BS and it's great to see,
sunny jessica and tiffany are all american
@@ektran4205 nope! only Tiffany is American. Sunny and Jessica are Korean-American. That being said, what i meant in my comment "Tiffany being American" was she is American in the most American ways. She's outspoken and not a pushover while Sunny and Jessica still has the Korean qualities in them.
Is it too late to cancel Kyuhyun? All he does is harras females.
He's got so many singles and is well liked so idk. These videos have to get the same views as his MVs/ whatever.
Omg sooo true
I mean these assholes definitely did so much damage to a lot of female idols.Rip Goo Hara
he already left radio star
Maybe he's gay
@@miminsuryamah774 im sorry whats the connection and youre implying a negative connotation about being a gay
Now Hara is no longer with us. What a nasty male toxic culture k entertainment has
Nah.. don't be mistaken. Male idols have it just as bad.. entertainment industry is ruthless to everyone
RatStew I don’t disagree but i lived with two Koreans women and both said males are more respected. They also have military service so makes all males in higher regard. Women do get a rough deal in comparison. Though universal gender inequality not unique to Korea. Korean women do have a standard they must be like and it’s hard to break out of that and they can face a backlash. Males have more room to move. Which is why shows like this seem like it’s okay to attack a women and make they cry. Or is a worse case the chat room scandal show how deep gender inequality is. They don’t even have good rights for women in law
@@manonn2006 right
RatStew no they really don’t. If you actually believe that you’re delusional.
@@dianamarin4903 They don't.. what?
I'm dissapointed of Kyuhyun. That's so low of him, he's been friends with them but he willing to sold them just for so called "entertaiment"? I lost my respect for him today.
I think he was immature at that time, i hope kyu realized what was he doin’ at that time
Actually Kyuhyun talked about being a radio star host and cried about it. He said he hated the mood and didn’t like what they made him do. He had to act out a certain persona because that was the concept of the show. He said he got really depressed so he felt relieved when he retired from the position. Some people are just emotionally manipulated to do things. They act nice and tell you you’re doing good that you become blinded from your original beliefs. Idk why some audience don’t understand this.
@V nugget emotional manipulation does not only work on children
if you want to know what they were actually speaking, learn Korean instead of watching those stupid and misleading English subtitles and believe in the unreal narrator.
Kellyyha ha nah, i watched the full version and i agreed with OP comment. Hara cried bcuz of their shitty statement.
Everyone should have a Tiffany in their life! She’s a real friend sranding up to bullying and harrasment. I never liked SNSD, but this changed that view a bit.
Or we should become a Tiffany instead😊💚
@@fi940 I think not everyone can , it's all about personality , when u r a GD talker u can put ppl in their places when needed. Not everyone of us can do that
tiffany is THAT friend u want
Poor you for not stanning SNSD for idk what fake rumors you heard about them.
@@Yooh_The_Pooh I just feel it’s something we can learn from her ofcourse we cannot be like tiffany! But she is such a kind, supportive and confident person and we can be that too❤️
We really need more Jessi and Tiffany in Korean entertainment shows. These bullshit hosts don't even know the word privacy.
It’s just Korean misogyny. It’s soemthjng Korea really needs to deal with like their putting cameras to record girls without their consent, the rising sun club fiasco etc
@@dbsk06 but again sment didn't let sica to be on any form except chinese thing. 💔
I want them to guest together in radio star. That would be the last episode
@@dbsk06 are we going to pretend women don't get harassed or club scandals don't happen in other countries? Korea has its own unique issues with gender equality sure, but the examples you gave are more common in other countries than korea, so just no.
@@ammarahmed4532 I mean, this is a video of Korean entertainment. The main topic includes South Korea, so, of course we are only going to talk about South Korea lmfao
I wished Hara had someone like Tiffany there to protect her. :( Disgusting hosts and harassment of a show. Someday they'll get their karma.
She did! Han seungyeon and her other members tried their best to stand up for her, but the hosts never knew when to stop
I miss Hara 😥
Mentioning her name made cry so hard. I missed her smile😭😭😭
I am so angry at those hosts... This shows how women are perceived in South Korea (& other nations). They are treated as someone beneath men & objectified. And that shouldn't be the case... So disappointed in Kyuhyun...
this is a nasty thing to say considering her members were there with her and tried to speak up.
And people wanna say that Tiffany was a fake friend and tried to replace Jessica. This is proof that they were wrong.
well said!✊🏻 it got me mad cuz they were so close and care for each other
@Eveline DaVuck I will always fight with comments about that video. I could cut several videos with Jessica being a horrible person but I would be out of context like that video. Pls grow up.
Eveline DaVuck that video you saw was fake because you can clearly see that it was edited to make it look as if the members ignored her. You don’t know what reality is since you chose to believe that.
I see that too. I dont believe them bc there is no real evidence she was a fake
at the end of the day we don't know what happened. Just because you have a falling out with your friend doesn't mean you were "fake" before.
I think since Tiffany is American she has a stronger backbone than most of the members so she was able to talk back which might be considered rude or unladylike in Korean culture
I think Tiff and Jessi are really breaking barriers in the Korean culture lol. Giving them a taste of outspoken Americans lol.
Hahaha, I agree with you. I am a westernized Taiwanese who grew up in Latin America. I am very similar to Tiffany in this sense.
@@Dtzeo503 They are American citizens and Americanized, no wonder they will have the typical American mindset
@@rdu239 i know i am American myself lol.
I don't think you meant it that way, but saying that can be slightly xenophobic. To give a relatable example.
Imagine seeing a really good dancer who happens to be black and you say that "oh, he's a good dancer because he's black". It's the same thing here. Saying that implies that being a feminist is causated by her being American or that others aren't that way, and is a bit of a generalization. Unless ofc tiffany herself says so.
Edit: also it's just stereotyping both sides(america and korea)
Behind Tiffany's eye-smile is a scary woman you should not mess with.
Tiffany has that American aggressiveness and fierce loyalty instilled in her DNA. Her, Jessica, and the rest of the SNSD members are truly one of a kind.
If this is an American treat, then I would love to have an American friend, too!
NoctLightCloud are you not American? I’ll be your American friend
@@sierra9828 Nope, I'm Austrian🇦🇹. And thanks, I really have not much knowledge about American lifestyle and traits. Any TV content is far from the truth, I know that much.
As a person who has American relatives I can confirm...
DNA has nothing to do with aggressiveness or loyalty
"Don't make me get serious, i'm scary" Savage tiffany said haha. I really love her
Lol Me too
Yes 🔥🔥🔥
i don’t know if you’re aware but s*v*ge is actually a slur to indigenous people
Leo energy let’s go!
@@melody5463 really????
Taeyeon obviously wasn't having a field day either. she looked pissed and like she was gonna blow up any minute. i hate interviewers like this. there really was such a time korean talk shows were like this, but i'm glad that phase is finally over now.
I guess Tiffany’s outspoken attitude is the same as her close friend Jessi. And I love it! You go slay them girl!
It's the American way sis.
@@Dtzeo503 She and Jessica are American citizens, of course they will have the American mindset
@@rdu239 i know lol im also American
@@Dtzeo503 American way ? Did you just made that up?
Jessica was labelled "ice queen" for her cold looks but inside she's pure and soft, on the other hand, tiffany was known for her eye smiles but when you push her to her boundary she's scary😂
That's actually true
True😆
She's not about to let her SNSD family get walked over. HAHA.
Tiffany and sunny. Look all cute outside but then they are the scary ones unnies. 🤣
Nah uh, don't even try to make her mad. Not even Taeyeon or any SNSD member well except for Seohyun. You'll never be seeing daylight if y'all do that 😭
I can only trust Heechul with these type of stuff, he knows the boundaries and doesn’t make the girls / boys feel uncomfortable about the topics. No wonder this show was a flop. Pick better hosts, ones that actually care about the guests.
Harun Daniel yes like heechul knows boundaries
The show is scripted and if Heechul signed the radio star contract then he would too be forced to say this... I don't even stan SUJU but I don't like getting bad impressions of people because they were forced to do something, but I love how Tiffany defended Jessica
Heechul is a hosting legend! He is so respectful!
I'm actually thinking that too
If you think heechul are scared, u guys are totally wrong, he’ll just do what he want and make the guest comfortable, the other host will get roasted instead
I love Tiffany. This is what real friends are. You support and defend each other. I love how she is very protective and is ready to stand up for her members. She's a real definition of ENTJ
Tiffany shut down literally almost all of their topics to protect Jessica that’s a true friend
I wonder how Kyuhyun and the hosts feels now that Hara is dead.
They probably didn’t really think they had thrown fuel on that fire. But they did.
Kyuhyun left radio star, he said he cause too much harm to people but when he didn't the staff continue to make him do it, that as it say was the aim of the program
@David Pham yeah yeah, I understand maybe he wasn't full aware of what he was saying but after Hara death he left the program I think...
@David Pham "he said he cause too much harm to people " ...isn't that him owning up to his behaviour? The show forced him to continue being an ass. The guests were not the only ones getting hate from the show, even he was getting attacked from fans of the guests. I think the real problem is the show and how it markets on society's enjoyment of others discomfort.
hara is dead? sorry im not a fan, but why? sorry for all ur loss
I met Tiffany back in November in Boston, she is so unbelievably nice , and it is touching that she’s the same person on and off camera💕
joeynx you’re so lucky
LUCKY
Wow that's awesome!!!
LUCKY TO BE MEETING A QUEEN
OMG you're so lucky I would love to meet my favorite K-Pop artists 😍😍😍😍😍😍😎😎😎😎😎😎😎🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
tiffany is like the big sister that defends everyone, i love her
Korean society or in general KPOP fans always support the male idols , no matter how bad or disgusting they behave. Such a shame.
I am so thankful that at least Tiffany fought back. Love her so much.
Yeah it is sad
But we're all here. No matter what GIRLS FTW.
@@SoMooLand1nine7
Wish we can do so much better
UGH yes this is why I've always respected Tiffany. She fights for the people she loves, and isn't afraid to use her voice to protect others.
Absolutely true! That's why Tiffany is my inspiration.💖💖💖
Yes, that is why she is the bestfriend of Jessi
@@memeijuzette3016 the fact that jessi likes her makes me trust her lol
@@saraa2817 if someone passes Jessie's vibe and test then you know that u can trust them!
@@rohansaxena4751
exactlyyyy
tiffany moving to america saved her life honestly. i felt like the longer she stayed here she might've taken the path that hara and sulli did. now shes happy and seems more free. happy for her. k entertainment and culture needs to change its attitude towards kidols, not good.
Next Taeyeon needs to flee that toxic environment that is Korea. She should flee to another country. Anywhere is better than Korea, she will be respected more and treated better!
@@NoctLightCloud amen, i was thinking america as well since she made her debut in singing frozen 2 into the unknown and it gained plenty of views. honestly anywhere is better than that toxic environment.
@@NoctLightCloud the korean society is not toxic. It is some of the koreans who make it toxic. I hope u wouldnt generalise one country into that 1 word.
@@NoctLightCloud Maybe because yall are interested in the korean entertainment industry thats why you see the bad side of it too. Every country has its downside, korea included. Korea is growing, we are evolving to be very open and inclusive. Its because it has only been a few years since the korean entertainment industry has been global and every citizens of different countries have different taste in comedy. Like how i feel about ellen degeneres. Others say she seems nice but to me she seems fake and disrectful.
@@NoctLightCloud korea has been a very conservative country and still is till today.... korean war ended at 1953. Its the year 2020. Its has only been less than 30 years since korea became developed. We need time to change. The japan entertainment industry sexualises female idols asking them to do explicit stuffs. EVERY COUNTRY HAS ITS DOWNSIDE. really, really hope yall do not generalise all koreans into 1 word.
Tiffany is a role model for how friends should stand up for each other. This industry is unique of its kind for creating an illusion of dreamy idols with no flaws. You won't find any other idol in the world that needs to maintain their standard of no dating and sh*t clause in other parts of the world. It is really scary, they have to loose their job over a dating scandal.
The best part about Tiffany speaking up is when she goes at them.......while wearing a smile. Lol.....these guys don't know the meaning of being killed on air. Don't mess with the smiling killer. I love Tiffany and Girls Generation. They think so highly of each other no one wants to claim to be the group's leader and take all the credit and glory for herself. Always praising the strengths of the other members.
Never forget that Hara was the first idol of her generation to publicly date so couples like Hyuna and Dawn could run
Never forget the abuse she suffered online and on talk shows and anytime she was in the company of a male friend
Never forget her last boyfriend beat her, threatened her, probably raped her, tried to sue her
Neer forget she had a negative opinion on herself because people hated her and deemed her a slur, for dating
Never forget that her ex is still free
that motherfucker needs to go to jail
HE HAS TO ROT IN THERE
“probably raped her” oh yeah he definitely raped her. she had internal injuries consistent with rape, including cervical injuries, which can’t really happen without vaginal penetration (and there’s no way there was consensual sex that night).
In korean industry female idols are sluts when they have boyfriends and it was also a scandal. lol.
Korean are paternal that when 2 idols date, sure that the girl's career is in jeopardy whilst the male just needs to rest it out a bit.
@@lucarit4107 Absolutely correct, if you looks into Seungri, many netizens already said he is innocent and they forgive him. Looks funny to me, that the owner or stockholder for club, not have some personal slut and things. Yet there are netizen who say he is innocent. Netizen is so fcked up because not many people know how old the one whos commented. Some are too young to even know what industry and how it works.
HE NEEDDS TO GO TO JAIL!
I wonder what her bf thought when hara passed away..and i actually wanna slap her bf 1 billion times damn..
This is 100% why Tiffany is my SNSD bias. She has never cared what people think of her. She’s the protective older sister in the group. She defended Taeyeon because I remember this being the height of her depression. It could be the American standards she grew up around of not standing around and taking people’s bullshit. Because I know well that in America, if you’re disrespected, you aren’t going to be scared to fight back. The reason Tiffany moved back to LA is because she said she wanted to return home and that she didn’t like Korean standards. Good on her honestly.
😊
That's great and all but I would still love it if she released a Korean album and had less processing on her songs
Surabhi Mishra yeah for sure
One month ago, I moved back to Austria after having lived in Korea for 6 months. I initially wanted to stay 6 more months, but I couldn't stand it. I went there prepared. I watched Koream TV since 2010, sometimes for hours, almost religiously. I was a classic koreaboo. But the "real" Korea is a sad and disgusting mess. Misogyny, castes/age respect, consumerism, racism, selfishness/narcissism, envy, ignorance, intolerance, beating the younger and weaker (women) at home, zero time management, non-stop comparisons to other, no criticism towards the system or elders.... The young people my age (20~25) are super depressive, desinterested, and unwilling to learn new things. They have everything: access to education, fastest internet, internet everywhere, cultural programs, festivals, facilities. Yet they know *nothing* about the world. Because they don't care. What they care about instead: what others think of them.
Conformity.
They are *always* on their damn phones. Yet they say they have no time to meet up, that they study the whole day. But honestly, what exactly do they study? When I studied at their university there, I was better at languages, at maths, at philospophy, geography, history, business, IT,... than most of them. Their university is a total joke, even poorer countries in Europe have a higher university knowledge-level or standards/expectations towards the students' initiative and self-management.
"Study" my ass, they only sit at their desk, spend 12 hours sitting, and then go on to say "good, I've studied"! Bullshit, I call. I spend only half the time sitting, but study earnestly, without checking my phone every 5 minutes. Then I stand up, walk away and enjoy life. They need to get their heads out of their asses and stop blaming others for their misery, or they are going to commit suicide. I am *not* kidding you. Depression (& ignorance) is a fucking epidemic in Korea, and no one cares there. It makes me furious. I want to protect those kids! The depressive vibe is probably still left from the time after the Korean War. Anyways, I fled before I caught depression, too. I also quit Kpop, it's just a mess. Still love SNSD though. And I'm glad that Tifanny left Korea for the US, and that Jaejoong left Korea and moved to Japan. Smart people, I support them!
NoctLightCloud what university did you study at? And how could you tell people there were depressed?
That’s why I like Tiffany, she’s a real one for sticking up for her teammates.
Till now my favorite host of variety shows is Yoo Jaesuk Oppa. He's really nice. He won't invade into another artist's privacy. He respects everyone. No wonder why he's Jessi's favorite.
Dude,Tiffany was so badass here, she literally tell them to back off for every shit that the hosts try to put up. Out of topic , SM please bring back SNSD 👄😖
Say what you will, I think SM is so fucking incompetent it's ridiculous
@@roberthager9573 Yeah they just made them the nation girl group...ouhhh so bad.
Su Zoki I respect the artists, not the company. The company itself has a past of mistreating their artists.
@@parkchimmin7913 Doesn't change the fact that in another company, they would not have the same success.
Su Zoki I ain’t denying that, business wise, SM is a great company. But, morally speaking, they don’t treat their idols well (especially their Chinese idols).
If Jessica made a request not to talk about something and they did anyway, isn't there a way to sue the show or something?
I think there is a law about "invasion of privacy" but I'm not really sure
Umm.. I think because it’s a type of variety, you can’t really sue them for asking questions that they could be basing off comments from the internet or something they think would just be fun to ask. If they asked ahead of time or requested before appearing but it still happened, I think their company could blacklist the show and keep their artists from appearing in it or something
No unless the topic involves defamation of character or an on going legal case then you have no real basis to sue.
It would be sm suing sm🙆♀️
In America, we sign contracts when making requests so that we have a legal assurance that our requests are honored. Most shows with morals wouldn’t do what happened in this clip though, regardless of a contract being signed or not. Unless a contract is signed, it’s hard to prove that you have any legal footing in a situation like this.
Don’t know how South Korean law works but I’m doubting there’s any legal action she could take- especially since Kyuhyun used the word “request” which implies that the show was in a position to either approve or deny Jessica’s wishes
I'm a big fan of K-pop, and sitting here watching a group of men repeatedly go after a group of young women for clout is disgusting. If one of the groups I like had to endure this I hope they have the strength to stand up to it without a second's hesitation.
The misogyny is so disgusting!
exactly what I was thinking!
Honestly, a western artist would have left this interview already... I was so surprised they stayed there and kept awnsering their questions even though with a slight bitterness, I guess that's just the Kpop industry forcing you to stay polite especially as a girl/girl group
They would have been called entitled, spoilt, Princess, and other offensive terms.. When idols try to defend themselves they get this unjust hate from the knets and assumptions about their private lives..
@@junesmind7325 i agree, but its also because in some parts of asia(like korea), you need to have a lot of respect to your elders even if they dont respect you(which is stupid and old-fashioned, i know). So even if they wanted to, they cant because like you said, they will be called spoiled, entitled, etc.
korean culture is toxic.
@@tlp031102 asian culture in general can be toxic to be honest... this is coming from an asian like myself.
Yeah ur right if it was a western artist they would storm out of the studio/interview.
I feel so bad for the girls for having to take this shitty and rude interview and props to Tiffany for standing up for her bandmates.
I still laugh when people say Taeyeon and Tiffany are the reason Jessica’s not in SNSD anymore. Like no...just no
yeah, they were both so close to her (and maybe still are behind the scenes)
Lol nah I never heard of Tiffany being the reason, but surely Taeyeon 😂
What happened? I'm new in this Kpop world
Janelle The One why Taeyeon
@@EminaGirl Tiffany was targeted for being the "meanest" to Jessica & wanting her out of the group, people even said she was happy when she left
Jessica is being blessed to have such kind of friend like Tiffany
Now I just remember how Amber tried to defend Sulli from bullied by a so-called fan of hers🥲🥲🥲 and she's no longer here😭😭😭
Sulli, Hara. Both are gone. I hope people who hurt them are gonna feel the same pain they gave her. Poor these women 😢
hosts: *humiliate Jessica and invade her privacy*
the lord and savior Tiffany: *listen here you little-*
-SHIT(i continued what you had to say)
I'm your 1k like
The Lord and Saviour is Lord Jesus Christ, ma’am, I know what you meant but no one else should be called that.
@@Hehehehehehehehehheheheheehhe It was just a joke, I'm a Christian too, but I don't think they meant it seriously
@@nathaniaalfonso8968 you replied to wrong person !!
Yes Mama Tiffany saving the day. I hate when hosts try to go into star's private lives like that. Know your place and mind your business. 😭
Yes♥️
That's the whole purpose of the show actually
@@jasons4045 the purpose of the show is for the guests to talk about topics they normally can't, not expose the personal life of the guests
@@Sone418 originally yes but the show has been airing for years...not blaming the girls but they probability expected it.
Jason Saw lmao jessica has clearly said to the writer about what topic that she doesn’t want to talk about .. the whole purpose of the show is not about idols’ dating life, its about a way for the girls to promote their comeback song .. the girls expected it that people will be curious about their dating life even more because at that time, yoona and sooyoung got exposed .. therefore, jessica stated it to the writer that dating is not a topic that she wants to discuss, but of course the writers don’t respect that at all -.-
In hind sight, the Goo Hara incident was even more messed up than everyone thought at first
Since then, Tiffany always caught my eye until she became my bias in SNSD. I love everything about her and there's this aura that comes along with it then I realized, we're both leo and that is why ✨
happy birthday to you then if youre Leo :)
@@Ma-cd3fz thank youuu *heart eyes*
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the fact that the hosts told hara that she was being sensitive to a *"joke"* that made her feel really bad is just disgusting. they say it's *just* a *joke* but it's not even funny. i hope they enjoy the money they made from doing disrespectful sht.
The fact Hara started tearing up was a big red flag
As soon as someone is crying and asking you to stop it is not a joke. It is just bullying
I think they were trying to use that as a excuse of a cop out for causing her to get emotional and cry and when she had tried telling them to stop. Making it known she wasn't ok or comfortable with it but they ignored it. In a way they were victim blaming her like some(not all) guys do when they make a girl upset like mad or sad but don't take accountability for causing them to feel that way and saying stuff to girls like, oh girls so emotional, is it your time of the month? They made it seem it was on her for her emotions and so her fault. Putting the blame on her so they don't look like bad guys, as the grown men that made a young girl cry on TV.
true. joke were suppose to make people laugh, not making them cry.
Joke made for laugh not for tears.
I hate this show it always make me feel uncomfortable luckily it has become a flop lmao
has it? i thought it's still popular?
@@vnvnvnvnvn8251 LMAO, no. Check its ratings. It hasn't been popular for three years now
@@vnvnvnvnvn8251 not anymore, at leats not as much as before. Knowing Bros is way more popular.
Bin I love that show because they made it such an informal space so the guests, when pressed, can almost react exactly how they would without any cameras, and it’s okay. Heechul carries his hosting well too that even if they talk about controversial subjects, he makes it pretty light and knows when to stop. Esp that episode with SNSD and everything the hosts said backfired XD
@@kb-ih7ni yeah, i like it too. Is pretty lighthearted and you can see the idols actually having fun, instead of being constantly attacked and cornered. The hosts are funny too, not just assholes lol.
It was nice to have someone like Tiffany. Very outspoken and determined. She’s fierce and know what to talk and not. Understandable bcs she’s korean american. Others may afraid bcs they are native koreans and they have respect more to elderly whatnot. But sometimes we have to stand with our words and show our uncomfortable feelings. I support fanyy!
Tiffany is just the best. She's not afraid to step up and speak up when she needs to, you can see how precious the other members and GG as a whole are to her. At the same time, she can adapt to the context and speak while still being nice enough to not come off as rude. Takes social skills to do that. Anyways I just love her
I think that since Tiffany was educated on a more western fashion her values and morals are a bit more on the feminist side than the rest of the girls. That and the fact she's way more extroverted
isn't jessica also from california though
@@blaise8538 Well first Jessica left Cali way before Tiffany, Tiffany started highschool on Cali then went to Korea, also Tiffany has always been more California girl while Jessica seems to have more used to Korean culture
This has nothing to do with feminism because no human will like to be treated this way. Man or woman. And not a matter of education!
It is a matter of choice. They choose to follow the toxic culture because they are afraid of criticism and of their image
not only in the kpop industry but in all of Korea and Asia in general
It will be harder for them to handle all the cyber and media bullying
BUT they have to work together and do something and this will never happen until someone/some people step out and say "enough"
Getting along with such things out of fear is not good nor healthy
I hope someone/some people inside the industry or outside it gains the strength to do something about this before more people lose their life due to such treatments
Omg no it has nothing to with "western values" she is simply more outspoken. It's a personality trait
@@dreamyclown7185 Yes but in Asia it seems like being an outspoken woman and defending yourself without faking a smile is something bad ... I’ve seen many female idols defending themselves for receiving uncomfortable comments of the hosts in tv shows and they can’t show how angry they are... they just can say how they feel faking a smile so people can’t say they are “rude, egocentric,entitled,Princess”, etc. There are cameras everywhere, everyone can see what really happened.
If someone makes me feel uncomfortable and is rude I’m going to leave the room.
Now i know why taeyeon relies a lot on tiffany. And now i realized how good tiffany is and how vulnerable jessica is.
Tiffany is a real spoke person of SNSD that you can see in their every variety shows.
@@leonyns8157 i see. Thanks, will pay attention when i watch
Seems like Jessica is quite naive, she kept getting caught in their slyness 😭 just goes to show how sincere the girls are used to being...
Nah taetae doesnt really rely on tiff a lot but since taetae isnt a verbally expressive that's where fany's place go. And so to sica. But most of the anti says that two hate sica the most. 😭💔
This makes me think the reason why she doesn't speak about SNSD is because she might spill some things she might regret saying and that's why she prefers not to touch that subject. Even her weibo post was kinda impulsive thought I can understand it was the heat of the moment. So that's why she might think twice when speaking about her former members and idol career.
i really love how tiffany and yuri just got jessica's back. the girls were standing for each other. and i believe that jessica still have a good relationship with them
the most frustrating thing about this whole situation was that the girlies would've probably brush it off the second they were willing to simply accept her negative at any point of the interview. even with how much they pushed jessica, she was still using her whole willpower to try and have fun with it until they went way too far. it would've been a cute JeTi gettin pestered moment even if it was kind of innapropiate but they decided to simply not care for that, as opposed to force a confession from jessica; almost guilt tripping her into a trap. truly one of the most upsetting moments in variety show history
I realize that in those days reality shows had no filters or boundaries when it came to jokes and I can understand why. Remember back in those days were the most scandalous times in the k-entertainment industry. But guess who enjoyed that? The Korean public. Not to push a stereotype but a lot of Koreans seek entertainment from scandals. And in those days broadcasting companies were like "Hey the people like scandals so let's give them scandals". That's why they had hosts and MCs asking uncomfortable questions to idols and idols were expected to just deal with it. And if they couldn't they were seen as soft and overly sensitive. But this is just a way of telling them "Help us out and give the people want they want. Isn't it your job to do fan service?". Even though it was wrong and unfair, from a business perspective it makes sense. Bc in their minds they were only giving what the public wants so why should they care about the feelings of a few?
i lost my respect for kyuhyun since i watched goo hara's guesting on their show where she cried. i was so fcking disappointed in him.
People who comments without really knowing the problem, that's what's wrong. Investigate before giving your opinions.
Anyway, SJ's relationship with SNSD continues well as always:')
what else do you need to know when the problem is already in the video, which are the hosts including kyuhyun, disrespecting women(+ the fact that he also did it to goo hara making her cry😡). and yep i'm only talking abt kyuhyun not the whole group, bc i know that some of the boys in sj are really respectful and they treat women right.
love_rosie Even though I’m an elf , Tbh I’m really really upset and disappointed 😡 but I’m thinking like maybe he followed the rules because of his contract with radio star , maybe the contract said that he should always do what was in the script. But that’s just a guess , if the contract didn’t said that or there’s no serious consequences then he did the wrong thing 😔😡 and if heechul was there, I knew he wouldn’t do that 😣
Dont look as kyuhyun only as a fault while the other mc not! Because he idol you just put attention on him?
That's why he's called the evil maknae
I really like Tiffany’s personality, she is just so genuine and she stands up for what is right
American energy.
then Jessica stabbed her in the back
@@sonicdash6513 how ?? What Happened?
@@Yooh_The_Pooh try "Jessica shade at Tiffany's scandal" on Google. I lost all respect for her after that
@@sonicdash6513jessica is no shame useless shit esp now lmao 😂
No wonder tiffany and jessi get along so well, cause they always protect whats right. And they didnt afraid to fight it
Yes is true!!!! i love you comment
I'm Korean American. I'm exactly like Tiffany. When it comes to defending my more quiet Korean/Asian sisters, I show my teeth and bite if I have to.
kyuhyun: makes Jessica uncomfortable, makes hara cry, stares jisoo
Irene: ima kill him
Where? I am here for the receipt
Also taeyeon: making a collaboration with kyuhyun
SM idols need to make him cry. I'm disappointed because I was a fan of him. But since he treated the girls like that.
Tiffany: "Want to be exposed?!"
Tiffany should've exposed him. I would've made him cry on the spot. Exposing everything about him.
See who will laugh now...
@@lee_misa do u also have the Irene clip
Irene is known for that men are afraid of her which is a good thing cuz Irene can control men easily haha she’s a legendary Queen
Kyuhyun disrespecting women for an entertainment. Sad.
Dudee!! He was just doing what the show assigned him to do. It’s his job to follow the script.
@@rawanalmadi4675 jail
@@rawanalmadi4675 yeah yeah that oppa is yours take it and stop defending him on comment section
Rawan Almadi no, thats not a fucking excuse to let him harass a girl on national tv about something she clearly stated *not to talk about* so shut up and look at reality.
I really really respect suju but dude whats wrong is wrong..shiw must be scripted but as a human you should have a conscience to know whats right n wrong..i dont think he is that obliged to follow the script
I never understood the concept of humiliating someone just for laughs .
To this day, i still have no fucking idea why kyuhyun was out to get Snsd? It’s not like they were strangers. They were in the same company, seen each other from way back before their debut so why?
What was he thinking lol?
Yeah he should be on snsd side and protect them. Knowing this i lost respect for him, i hope he already apologize to snsd members. The writers, pd, hosts and basically the whole show is trash. There's many other topics to talk about but still keep on and on bout dating, no respect for other people privacy. Also showing seohyun pic like that, that's freaking disturbing!
the whole show is trashy by default. Prying and comment on where they shouldnt be . I would give Kyuhyun the benefit of the doubt. But idk.....
I think he's just insecure and a chauvinist who thrives in embarrassing women publicly, like those older guys with him
*how to get a friend like Tiffany?* I feel like when Tiffany is in my side I'm always secure and protected, thinking about it, makes me realize on how she values and love her love ones, she is ready to fight anyone, who causes pain to them, I STAN HARD, T-T
Most likely learned that from the US lol. Not being afraid to speak and defend themselves.
I love her in Sister's Slamdunk. She's very caring.
Me, I have same personality
I am. Huhu. My close friends always said im the protector. I'll protect my friends from from harsh words and accusations as i could. But sometimes i felt it is just me.. Only me willing to protect my friend...they're with me when they need me.. And left.
she's a true gem of a person, and i feel like people are appreciating her more lately as opposed to when soshi was at it's prime. she was in the past, to my utter disbelief, the most disliked member once. let that sink in.
“irene mad at her stylist “
people : * sign petition for irene to leave red velvet *
“ kyuhyun being direspectful”
people : OMG HE IS SO SAVAGEEE
double standards.
Hahaha
Loll
TRUEEEEE
Why so true
I still hold a grudge around Kyuhun
what grosses me out the most is how many of the hosts of these shows are old males.
true
The bad side of entertainment world. No wonder they had a high rate of depression and suiside The world of entertainment make those who are work in that field are not human but a toy for their public interest.
The society as a whole. High-end businesses, small businesses, pressure for higher education. elders being left alone or homeless and so much more. Back in 2019 they currently banned a farming product to drop the suicide rates from elders. There are students who are still highly stressed for high scores. There are women who want to commit suicide because some petty men upload their s*x tapes or noods. And that considered to be revenge p*rn and it's illegal. Then the entertainment. This hierarchy
In this video, you can literally see how legit and strong soshi friendship is. Taeyeon stayed quiet the whole time bc if you’re a sone you’ll know that Taeyeon stays quiet like this most especially when others talk shit about her members, but once she speaks you’re dead, tiffany literally saving Jessica's life to this bullshit and just look how she defended Taeyeon on her appearance (fany may be all smiles and sunshine but once someone talks shit about her members or make them uncomfortable on a certain situation, no matter how old or young they are..tiffany will surely teach you a lesson) , sunny and yuri giving some reactions to distract the hosts to prevent more shitty topics. Hyoyeon and sooyoung were not present on this episode but I’m sure that they would do the same as what tiffany did and they will surely roast the hosts 2x more.
Now, do others still believe that soshi's friendship is fake? After Jessica left? I’m sure jessica had reasons (and fuck sm for kicking her out and blocking her on music shows) sica still kept in touch with her members tho. They may be OT8 now but us sones will always have a special space for OT9 deep in our hearts.
sorry but imagine taeyeon getting angry.. that'll be so scary and hot at the same lmao
@@leelee0505 Taeyeon getting angry is like a toddler throwing a tantrum over not getting a cookie lmao. It's quite scary, but also adorable at the same time.
Taeyeon may have been intuitively offended by Jessica's boy friend rather than the program hosts.
I totally agree with you! They always protect each other because they care about each other, SNSD got what they've right now only because of their strong bond and good teamwork. And after Jessica left the group, it doesn't prove that their friendship was fake, and if she doesn't interact with other girls in public, it doesn't mean their friendship ends. I'm sure their friendship still continues and it is much stronger in real life than on camera
If hyoyeon and sooyoung was there the hosts will cry those two are unstoppable 😂
I love how Tiffany warned them to not go too far or she’d get scary
I'm loving Tiffany more after watching this.
This is also one of the reason why after Tiff departed from SM, she looks very happy, confident and comfortable... she now able to speak for herself, no rules. I can see huge difference on some of her latest videos pop-out on my FB
About Kyu, I'm kinda disappointed on him. How could he and the other MCs did that to Hara??!!! If they're still mocking her eventhough Hara teared up, they have no empathy 😢
BTS alludes to this in their spring day mv, a societies prosperity depends on someones suffering and unhappiness
I used to follow Super Junior, I've seen them live even! Now I'm so turned off by their countless mistakes and misogyny. Only Heechul is still cool, best man!
It's hard to explain but... That program is an spiral on decadence for him. It's awful...and not only with the female guests. He start with little Jokes (Evil Maknae) and then they keep pushing and pushing until one day he no longer could difference between boundaries.
It's like the example with the frog and the boiling water.
I believe in regret and second chances, and I'm glad he could jump out of that sh*t.
We can never know the complete truth on that matters, but we can hope... And I Hope Sulli and Hara are happy and peaceful in that another place.
@@NoctLightCloud Leeteuk and Donghae also are angels.
Yesung is a true gentleman.
How could Kyuhyun do that? More like evil maknae. I love super junior and he should know that hurts after how sad Heechul was when rumours of dating sparked
If sooyoung and hyoyeon been there, yass savage queens, especially sooyoung the negotiate queen
But l don't think so because This show influence on Korean idols,so they can't fight bravely like Tiffany. Koreans don't like defence by women. If you don't accept, you can see other members' slience. It's not their fault, it's K culture.
Nope, sooyoung can definitely deal and go off with this one but I think hyoyeon would back up a little unless triggered. But legit if sooyoung and hyoyeon were here it's the end of these men.
Lmao exactly Hyoyeon and Sooyoung would’ve went off on them 👏
If the 2 of them were there, we would probably find dead body right after.
@@iritheljungleheart3672 so who's impostor ?
“dont kill my vibe, thats a no no”
- tiffany
wah I am a new Sone, this makes me admire tiffany even more. She is composed yet scary. When stop smiling at many parts of this interview for sure made the hosts afraid to ask her further qns. I think taeyeon keeps quiet the most cos she is the type who dnt talk usually and in this case she know tiffany is reliable to answer back to them. even like sunny and yuri, if given the chance if they are alone, maybe they will reply back. but here they trust tiff to do all the talking. the hosts attack jessica I think cos they find her vulnerable in some way. if not they won't dare to ask her like that. I dnt knw abt jess character yet.
She was born to be idol. Im not Sone, but i love how she handle every situation. She looks smart. She always think before she speak. She's genuine. She's perfect.
this are not hosts, this are little boys that don't deserve 1 ounce of consideration and respect. Well done Tiff , fighting.
I can’t believe this was allowed to be aired on national TV, this is absolutely disgusting and sexist and just goes to show how messed up the k-ent industry is for trashing women’s images
k-ent doesn’t really care about female idols , its sad ☹️ Jessica requests it herself not to talk about the rumors but they keep ask her about it 4 times , bruhh thats leave me speechless how can they do thatt
I need a friend like Tiffany in my life.
This whole episode Taeyeon was just there, sitting and breathing
😂💔
Let her be. She is tired coz of exol lmao
I remember always that Tiffany said “If you don’t have nice things to say, please keep it to yourself.” -I respect her so much because she is so damn kind to each other.
tiffany being the loyal, ambitious, cunning, and scary slytherin she is we stan
gryffindor
@@Meow_meowwww she always mention that she's a Slytherin. :)
@@Meow_meowwww she's slytherin
This disgusted me! These hosts kept trying to override Jessica’s feelings about this topic. I’m glad she wasn’t there by herself and Tiffany kept blocking them. A rabid mauling Bear has more heart than these hosts.🤬🤬🤬
"I'm a scary person." TIFFANY YES
It's sad how kyuhyun cared more about views then his friends/lable mates. I'm glad they never came back to that show after this incidents
He was forced to do it. Apologized to Hara immediatly after this show and resigned from it. He hated being on this show and cried himself to sleep every night because he was forced to act mean and people were bullying him in the comments because of it. He's a victim of this show too.
@@ThelouwseFD when did he say that lmao
Sincerely Somber I forgot where he said it but he did say all of that
if you want to know what they were actually speaking, learn Korean instead of watching those stupid and misleading English subtitles and believe in the unreal narrator.
@@ThelouwseFD I didn't know you were with him
Taeyeon looks pissed as hell too.
The worse is one of the super junior’s received hate for marry.
What?? That's so awful- marriage should be a celebration and happy. These fans are too much, they don't see them as people...
I remember watching this a few months back and having my respect for Tiffany completely sKYROCKET. That entire show must’ve been exasperating as hell but she stood her ground. I’d fuckin cry as well if I were any of them so props to the other members for keeping it together even though they were under no obligation to even remain polite in that situation. Radio Star should’ve been cancelled the moment they decided to disrespect their guests and proceed to ask questions that were deliberately already rejected pre-recording. None of them deserved that and thinking about the hazing Hara/Kara went through during their airing also makes me infuriated as hell. The complaisance in this industry is srsly outta pocket and it’s a large reason why I avoid kpop now after having been a stan for so many years. It’s fucked up watching this shit growing up and not seeing how problematic everything is until you grow into adulthood yourself and witness/experience firsthand how women are publicly shamed and disrespected smh.
Btw, I’ve been curious for a while, but how is Tyler Kwon an asswipe?? lololol I’m genuinely curious bc I’ve seen Sones hating on him since the very beginning but homie doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page so I can’t even look up all the terrible things he’s done hahahaha
I HATE HOW KYUHYUN MAKES HARA CRIED JUST BECAUSE OF HIS STUPID OFFENSIVE JOKE
EDIT: SO IF YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOUR OPPA LIKE YEOJA STUPID AND RINA LEE I'M SORRY BUT I LOST RESPECT TO YOU. PROTECTING YOUR OPPA IN THIS ACT IS CLEARLY NONSENSE ESPECIALLY IF UR A WOMAN U MUST KNOW HOW THEY FEEL. NOT BECAUSE HE'S YOUR OPPA IS HE'S ALWAYS RIGHT. SO DON'T BE LIKE YEOJA DON'T BE TO OBSESSED AND INSTEAD SPEND YOUR TIME TO LEARN SOME THINGS THAT REALLY MAKE SENSE.
And now she's gone and khyuhyun or these hosts are alive and they're still trying to stir drama among idols.
I really wanna punch him in real life. At that time, Hara was already barely holding on...
@@johnavernia1026 Hara at that time was criticized for being "too emotional" :(((
Kyuhyun has fault but we all know all the word came kyuhyun mouth is based on the script
I still don't know why kyuhyun get a lot of hates. He is just following what the script said.
in conclusion : stan Tiffany
And SNSD in general
Stream Magnetic Moon
Absolutely! Stan Tiffany Young. 👸
YES STAN QUEEN 👑👑👑
Tiffany is a legend.
"Piece of Trash Tyler Kwon" lol sounds about right. SONE's hated Tyler Kwon and felt he was the "Yoko Ono of SNSD" and was the reason the relationship with Jessica soured. She loved him, but he appeared at every suspicious moment during that time. People knew Lee Seung Gi, Jung Kyung Ho, Oh Seung Hwan, Nichkhun, Baekhyun, and Kim Jun Hyung. Tyler Kwon was a mystery. Back in 2014 when people noticed inconsistencies with the claim that "she was voted out by the other members", Jessica's "reps" had to backtrack and say she never wrote that post. No one ever found out who her "reps" were, so people thought it was Tyler Kwon being a snake. To this day, most people just agree with the most neutral statement that "Jessica was removed due to business conflicts" (Contract failure). Neither Party has ever denied this statement. People can accuse, assume, and make up Conspiracy Theories. But this is what most people can accept, and left it at that. What gets people believing that Tyler steered Jessica towards a bumpy path was, in 2015, Jessica was still under SM, but they agreed to release her after a messy contract negotiation, which likely caused her own blacklisting, so she can go sign with Coridel Entertainment (Tyler Kwon). In 2018, Jessica was sued and lost a $2 Million US lawsuit against her, for failing to uphold her Chinese Management Contract (Contract failure again). They claim that Coridel Entertainment (Tyler Kwon again) cheated them. And then in 2021, Blanc & Eclare was sued for not paying back a $7 Million Dollar Loan that was allegedly taken out by... Tyler Kwon again (another Contract failure). SONEs are starting to feel vindicated that all the accusations against SM and SNSD members in 2014 are not holding up, but instead all this turmoil with Jessica and Tyler Kwon, is showing that they alone caused Jessica's removal from SNSD. SONEs still love Jessica as a SNSD member and Artist, but her "business decisions" since then seems to have been puppeted by a fraudster she loved and followed. Jessica is now entangled with Tyler, their is too much lost, gained, and invested in this relationship to give it up. He just appeared one day, and everything changed. People only have known him for 2 things: swindling people out of Contracts and using their image without permission, and "stealing" Jessica away from SNSD. Jessica regrettably looks kind of like a victim, but its not because of SME or SNSD members.
I was also quick not to jump into conclusions until I saw his obviously paid IG bots openly smearing SNSD members around May/ June last year, including Sooyoung,Yoona, Taeyeon, Tiffany and the other girls, they were typing disguisting shit trying to slander the girls,a user came to comment on the comment section that they knew SNSD members through their staffs and that those bots are lying and making up stories and then BOOM! The bots comments disappeared !I wouldn't be surprised if he was also behind all those sensationalist books tbh painting him as her knight to save her from the Villian girls
Kyuhyun was trying so hard to fit in to the other hosts LMAOO. Did he forgot that he’s an Idol too? I’m so disappointed.
Geraldine Ortiz 👎🏽
@@GeraldineGGO as idol he is knows what is wrong what is good
@@GeraldineGGO he had no sense of boundaries. He should have stopped pushing it but didnt.
@@GeraldineGGO idc cause i can see he is really Direspect in here with the girls and he is looks rude! He deserve leave that show tho
@@GeraldineGGO Disclaimer: I don't think Kyuhyun is a terrible person, but stop victimizing him. It's a show, no one held a gun to his head, if he had more variety sense, he could have changed the topic and it would have been seamless and entertaining. But instead he pushed and pushed as he had done other times. He said he wouldn't be returning because he disliked getting more antis and criticism.
She's really protective over her members 🥺 dating was really a sensitive topic specially to snsd at that time. Tiffany was also dating that time and was only revealed about a week after this episode was broadcasted.
The hosts Will lost their words if only Hyoyeon and Sooyoung there.
Not surprised being that quite a few Super Junior members have acted shitty and downright sexist to women before. 🙄
At this point just throw the whole group away
And they said Tiffany is one of the reasons why Sica left SNSD and call Fany the attention seeker.
That not truth...only hater say like that..
This is long before 9/30...things change.
Definitely not because of Tiffany
Singer can't decide which song make come out and y'all really believe they have the power to get someone out of an agency
No one really knows bcuz we only see what sometimes they want us fans to see just look at the t-ara case no one knew about hyoyoung until she left...not saying this is the same case but most of the time there's a lot of things we don't know outside of these cameras
Where are the hypocrites who said Tiffany is the meanest to Jessica?
Probably hiding in their closet for being scared
SM may be shit to Jessica but I don't think anyone in Soshi truly forgets about her and their friendship tbh. Just because a member were having a bad day and shots an annoying glance to other doesn't mean they're on a bad terms.
@@minrijung1519 ikr
Hahahah I really like your comments
And Tiffany and Jessica were extremely close the majority of their groups run, so fans need to stop using her as an example because it’s bullshit
Tiffany really loves the girls and Girls' Generation, don't piss her off
Tiffany « I am a scary person don’t make me get serious » I believe that Fany I do🤣
*and the sad part is some of jessica's fans are bashing tiffany cuz they are saying she bully jessica lol*
Just let them bash, the toxic fans will always blame on either tiffany or taeyeon. Btw they can't end their career.
This is actually pretty normal in Korea and around the world actually. A lot of guys will make offensive "jokes" and say that humor is subjective and call you a snowflake when you speak up about what they said. This is a lot more common in young age groups of guys. I've seen so much of it on tiktok where they laugh at girls sharing their sexual assault stories. Back to Korea, they tend to sexualize and humiliate female idols for comedic purposes.
I’ve experienced this with men of all ages. I don’t think I’ve met a guy who wouldnt joke about girls body or how they want to tastes someone cause theyre hot. This is why I don’t trust men. Even when you say he is a good person, I always assume that deep inside he objectifies women and laugh at his bros rape jokes because thats how almost all men around me portray themselves.Whenever my male friends who joke about women getting payed for their money or about their body, i always make them know im uncomfortable with it and leave the chat. I was the reason why they made a separate gc so they could talk about girls. I hate it so much that i sometimes lose interest in talking to them.
They do this in American media too. Look at Britney Spears and even women do this to other women/girls like Oprah to the Olsen twins. Letterman to Paris Hilton .... really predatory and talking about exactly what they said they don’t want to talk about
@@yonderlyx I would drop that group and find other friends that are on your level
@@dbsk06 Irina Shayk too
Yeah no shit. That doesn’t make it normal or okay.
i really hate a lot of super junior members so many god damn red flags in a few of them that i’ve seen
and people had the audacity to defend Heechul's relationship with Twice's member Momo despite their 10 year age gap which people defend by using excuses like "so what? they are legal adults mind your own business!"
@@fatimahanwaar306 they're not wrong, they're both adults and have the right to do whatever they want. Are you seriously going to shame someone for dating because of an age gap(though they're both adults), you're pathetic.
Edit(not talking about other members cuz idk much about them)
When Tiffany said “I’m a scary person” I was SCREAMING YES GO OFF