is Black Ops Cold War realistic? (Reaction to Fracture Jaw)
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- Amateur Historian reacts and analyses [Step By Step] the Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War mission called Fracture Jaw (2020). What do you think of this Vietnam War mission?
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Could you react to Call of duty World at war
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There's a huge difference between the Vietcong and NVA. The NVA was the regular army, and by 1968, they were getting modern equipment from China and Russia. The Vietcong, the origin of the nickname "Charlie", were a guerilla force mostly made up of South Vietnamese civilians. The NVA fought the coalition forces in open combat, with traditional weapons and tactics. The Vietcong were the ones that gave the war its horrific reputation. They fought with traps, with deception, sabotage, and betrayal
It's always so easy for people to conflate different factions into one, like how many did for different groups of Kurds.
Wow, thanks for the lesson, I didn't know that, I thought they both mostly did guerrilla warfare and not much conventional warfare.
@@thegrayyernaut what do you mean?
@@ghillieninja4596 he means NVA and VC share the same army but you guys differentiate them into 2 different armies.
@@thomasrichardson5661I mean just look at the original Black Ops, the NVA and Viet Cong are very different
I'm really big into military aviation and the fact that the Hueys got messed up really annoys me during the Vietnam War Hueys only had 2 main rotor blades and 2 tail rotor blades not 4 like they show here. The nose is also extended too far out and the exhaust pipe should be one big tube not 2 small boxes.
Did the apache exist at that time? Because I saw one and it kind annoys me because I never heard that in Vietnam would be something with apache helicopters
@@cosmin_budda no it would've been the AH-1 Cobra
@@cosmin_budda it wasn't an apache it was a cobra, also the reason they fucked it up so bad was because of copyright
It literally looks like the venom
That Huey look so futuristic if they try to avoid copyright why not make it look appropriate for the time
i'm surprised you didn't acknowledge they were using the wrong huey helicopter model, those looked post war with the twin engine looking load out instead of the single engine
plus if you played the mission from the beginning and looked behind you, you would notice a modern looking SAW MG leaning against crates
That was painful, considering it's right up there in the thumbnail
Yup. Those look like either twin huey or the later model the Viper. Though with the 4 blades im thinking they are based on Vipers. Could also be a response from the whole humvee law suite.
He admitted in other videos that he is not that good familiarizing with the arsenals.
Funny thing is most Huey crews manned M60 Machine guns and the variant of helicopter they have in the game is false. That’s a modern marine Huey.
He has trully put the thrust on youtube im loving it
I'll try to post 6-7 videos a month
@@historylegendsappreciate the effort man
The one game that I can think of that did the magazine capacity/replenish right was SOCOM US Navy SEALs back on the ps2. After reloading a number of times you would load a magazine at half capacity or near empty.
interesting!
The game that does this right now is Insurgency Sand Storm. You also have the ability to salvage for mags that are compatible for the weapon you use but not necessarily the Ammunition.
Operation Flashpoint/Arma have this feature.
@@gregorteply9034 forgot about Operation Flashpoint. Great game.
@@angelamaro3480 also squad
I would love to see more Call of duty missions!
Love how adler said reading playboy would make you go blind, this is a reference to the fact that the era still had conservative evangelicals who taught this ideals to kids during the 50s and partially the 60s
It’s a reference to you not getting any bitches
I thought it was a reference to the idea that If you close your eyes too hard while you are wanking it you will go blind
I mean when I was into that shit I practically did go blind so there's gotta be some truth.
I was surprised to learn that Camp Haskins and Firebase Ripcord are actually real places, Treyarch clearly put more effort into this game than Vanguard
Same I heard it some days before watching the video. Compared to vanguard this is on another level. To be like vanguard the vietcong should have had American weapons, the Americans should have had modern weapons and all 3 had to be of different nationalities than American
Honestly I would rather play the scenario you created at the end then the one in the game itself would be awesome to see you create more realistic scenarios like you did at the end.
Who knows maybe in the future!
As always, brilliant job man
One big problem I see, the Huey's or 4 bladed, back then the Huey's we're 2 bladed, on main and rear rotors.
Keep doing videos they are so good!
LOL, when you talked about "Charlie" I just couldn't not think about Apocalypse Now, when Robert Duvall's character goes "CHARLIE DON'T SURF!"
Just discovered your content, and I enjoy it, thank you.
Also, in the book Hunters and Shooters: An Oral History of the US Navy SEALS in Vietnam, one of the contributors talked about doing "snatch and grab" operations where they would drop from a helicopter onto, and through, the roofs of huts to grab prisoners.
Keep up your fantastic work!!
UH-1 Helicopters during the Vietnam War were never meant to be used as an offensive vehicle as it is shown in this game. The main purpose of these aircraft were to move troops into areas where fixed-wing aircraft could not. It wasn't practical to drop paratroopers due to the high risk of "hung jumpers" which are paratroopers that had gotten stuck in trees in the thick jungle environment of Vietnam.
In my opinion this mission was pretty good despite all the historical inaccuracies also the Vietnam War should be represented more in video games.
The Hueys are actually twin Hueys which we’re not produced till mid 1969 a year after the tet offensive. I really hate call of duty for inaccuracies.
At least this one wasn't vanguard levels of stupid...
Seriously WTF happened with that?
WW2? Nah lets just slap a skin on and call it WW2!
I think the inaccuracies are a result of this mission being a fake memory being implanted into the player (us). We were never really in Vietnam and didn't know what some things looked like there, so the twin Huey was probably what the player assumed the Hueys looked like in Vietnam (Assuming the player had seen a twin huey before when it was made eventually), along with seeing weapons that were out of place and weren't even made yet.
Another one you didnt points out, the kind of architecture of this village has is the old type of brick houses you would find in old city like Hue and Hoi An, not in middle of the jungle.
Great Video bro
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I think that one of the best Vietnam war games which actually feels like it's in Vietnam and not like that exact scenario could be anywhere (for example if you just replaced the signs and soldiers in the mission you reacted to, it could be pretty much any town in tropical forest, there is nothing in particular which actually makes it feel like Vietnam war. No crawling through VC tunnels, no going knees deep in mud, nothing like that) would be Vietcong. Although you may find lots of racism against VC in the game, it is pretty realistic. I mean, the American soldiers who were going to Vietnam weren't exactly saints, and racism was much more common then than it is today. So yeah, it may offend people. And of course, being portrayed from American perspective, it is the typical South good North bad type of stuff, and unfortunately it doesn't really show Americans in bad light, but I doubt a mission where you burn down a village and then kill all of their inhabitants, making excuse because they were hiding VC or something like that would be a fun mission.
But apart from that, the atmosphere is really good, even though the graphics are.. well, as good as they could be 2 decades back or whenever it came out. The guns handle spectacularly well for a game of that age, and the missions are really nice, especially the parts where you crawl through multiple story maze like bunkers which are full of traps, prepared to catch unsuspecting American. Even in the very first mission you can die in a matter of seconds, should you not be careful, thankfully, the game uses a squad system which works really well. There are many roles, but one of the most important one would be a scout. (I am not sure if it's called scout but I'd assume so, I'm not native) Basically, the guy which walks in front of you the whole time and warns you if there is any traps at all. I prefer to take the game slow and let him clear the way in front of me from traps, because most of the time, you won't see it. And it's not just tripwire traps which aren't as hard to see, but it's fake floor traps as well, however if you are really observant you can notice Vietcong is (as they did in real life) placing signs around, warning other VC that there is a trap there. The signs are usually well hidden and are just a couple branches or leaves put in specific way, but if you know what to look for, you can know there is a trap around you without even seeing it first.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the heuy only have two blades and it one engine, in the game it looks like a venom or updated heuy in my opinion
No your right, the Huey in game is completely wrong, but what else do you expect from a CoD game.
After watching this video would love to see your thoughts on the game Rising Storm 2 : Vietnam
My man its a game the part where you said the wounded part please my guy its a game lol they will take 4,5 shots still they will be alive i know you want to make it more accurate but dam
Spoiler warning!
If i remember correctly, in the game story, this mission is just implanted memory from someone else? I feel like they can get away with some inaccuracies here since it would make sense story wise
But they’ve been making inaccuracies throughout the entire game
They may of been implanted memories but they were still real
I played CoD Mordern Warefare years ago and I feel like I played this mission back then already.
,,There's something I didn't expect IS the intense exposure to Stepen Wolf's Magic Carpet... It was even worse than the exposure to Fortunate Son.... Half of our men defected to the VC Just to avoid listening CCR.'' (Vet Memories)
And, there's a helicopter base full of telephone poles and wires all over the Sky... Better fly a Magic Carpet than a fan. First thing first, they've Taken all this Shit down.
Amazing!
Are you sure your talking about the NVA Anti Air or the VC cause I’m curtain the VC didn’t have lots of them?
Can you react and analyze full metal jacket please? I'd love to see your review.
will do
@@historylegends Nice
@@historylegends One more thing, when I say react to fmj I specifically mean the battle of Hue City.
Love the vids keep up the good work. Your very intelligent
The twin-engine variant of the UH-1 Huey, the UH-1N, was first flown in 1969. The UH-1s in this mission are all twin-engine models.
Also, during the helicopter section about halfway through the level, the calibers of all the helo's weapons are wrong. The miniguns are 7.62mm M134s and the rockets are 70mm Hydras.
Oh yeah, and there's also a Stoner 63 LMG in this mission. Not that important, I just appreciated the inclusion of a less well-known Vietnam War weapon.
I know this is an old video, but you should really analyze black ops 1(2010) campaign, not super accurate but has the vietam war feeling (in the vietnam war missions)
Didnt have Huyes two rotor blades?
Where did you get that sweater?
they could just make the Assault Helicopter doing fly by rocket shooting their job is to draw out enemy firing position instead of a standby Assault Helicopter is a easy target for VC to shoot down, also correct me if i'm wrong about this but the minigun on Huey, look way too modern for it time
I tried looking up the history of the real operation on CZcams, and it brings me to literal fracture jaw surgeries. It's crazy to think how close we were to nuking Nam as how close the Soviets were to nuking the US from Cuba.
give a react to S.O.G Prairie Fire.
A CDLC from Arma 3, the devs from it worked alongside with veterans from the MACV-SOG
If you cant see your bullets that means its gonna be a pain to reload maybe that feature cant work very well
08:24 Only game I know that does that is Mafia Remake on classic dificult
there was no excessive use of fortunate son
Looking back: he was so innocent! :)
North Carolina that scenario seems a lot more funner than what was actually things
I feel like a story (game) that is written during a specific time period doesn't have to be historically accurate (entirely), UNLESS you write a segment that includes a true, real life event, it's quite exciting to see a little bit of creative twist written into a time period, because when you write characters during that certain setting, you may resort into designing your own events to create plots even if it doesn't exist. What I will say, is when creating that decision, it is important to remind yourself that when writing that specific segment, the equipment or music - settings and technology must relate to and remain accurate to that decade you're writing in, AND it's important to include real life circumstances/themes that relate, because you're; trying to portray that event, historical stories are okay to have fiction written into it as long as you state that the story isn't entirely accurate in terms of non fiction, historical-wise; and, that some parts may not of exist in history it's self, and is created purely for fictional use.
Anyways, that's my opinion.
Hurts didnt have that triple pane style it was a double
On the hueys there is only supposed to be 2 rotor blades not 4!
Good point, interesting
Do you know you refer to Activation
I find it wired that it has firebase ripcord yet the battle took place in July 1970 (Correct me if I’m wrong)
Can you do videos about Roman empire
I wanted to review the Netflix series: Barbarians, especially the last battle
please react to call of duty ww2 operation normandy d-day.
Do cod ww2
According to Wikipedia the US lost a staggering number of 5607 helicopters alone. I'll spell that: Fifty six hundred and seven helicopters. Approaching like this in real life would mean an abrupt end of the mission.
An AKs-74u in 1968? not very likely
The hueys in the mission have 4 main rotor blades
In real life they have 2
Where are the subtitles?
perhaps automated subtitles?
Is there something you like? I know all your stuff is bad but how about checking out something diffrent, like das Boot or the Downfall etc. ?
COD black ops Cold War is one of my favourite call of duty games
Is that black nail polish on your right index finger?
Well those are the wrong helicopters for the era those are uh-1ys used by the usmc today. Back the they used the uh-1gs
Sure history legends criticized a lot of my favorite ww2 movies bit if its facts and its accurate there's nothing we can do about it, keep it up history legends I love your videos
I'm just sad they used the wrong hueys :(
I honestly quite liked this mission
But yeah it would have been amazing if they added more realism
Yeah but it's better than call of woke Vantrash
Mini guns on the huey’s just bother me, should be M60s
Agreed, they did have them on a few gunships, but was kinda rare.
Well, compared to vanguard it's surely a masterpiece
those are for sure not Vietnam era hueys
You might have saved lives by making this video. I legitimately wonder how many young men enlisted in the armed forces because they thought any opposition would be poorly armed and poorly trained video game mooks.
Vietnam war helicopters could carry up to 12 men inside
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These are def wrong era Huey's. These aren't the legendary Huey UH-1H's. This variant seems close to what the USMC is using today, which is the UH-1Y venom, a twin turbo engined, four blade modern model of what it used to be a huey.
In context the entire mission is fake, Bell was never in the Vietnam war
It was real it was just Adler in Bell’s place though I wonder who Adler’s meant to be
The Vietnam missions are pretty underwhelmed since your character isn’t even actually there. This whole game just felt like a rug pull.
Aw man there are just so many things wrong (historically) with CW. Wrong Huey's, ak-74u in 1968? Why not just an AKM-S? Plus the 74u isn't a real thing, it's AkS-74u, which indicates it has a skeletal stock. I'm just frustrated how badly they represented such an interesting time in history
There is realism mode you die in like 2 or 3 hits not 5 or 10
Those helicopters were never used during the Vietnam War they weren't even invented
what
I do t get people who grip about those who want historical authenticity. If someone made a game based on your life wouldn’t you have wanted it to be accurate?
campaign was good overall...fun for sure...the vietnam mission is my favorite cause i got to gun down people, than i get to fly a helicopter and commit genocide on every village i see, suspecting vietcong...rest of campaign was fine, i knew beforehand of the betrayal so i went soviet ending twice, twice restricting myself to mostly AK weaponry as my personel challenge, it was very fun! i wonder if there will be a sequel where it follows up on the soviet ending, to a potential ww3 or something...since id LOVE that!
also techincally this whole vietnam sequence...is fake..its a memory made bye adler to get bell under his controll, so techincally realism doesnt apply, its a fake memory, also take multiple hits? its a video game
also, techincally more americans landed, i have seen other american troops run around, also this fake memory implies it isnt special forces, its army units sent to secure intel
Do you like Star Wars?
Depends which ones
@@historylegends what episodes do you like then?
Personally i like epidodes 1-6 but i dont like sequels and also star wars legends is good and mandalorian semi-good
Minigun in 1960's ? is that historical accurate ?
The M134 Minigun was first introduced in 1963 during the Vietnam war. They were usually fitted onto US gunships.
Call of duty ww2 omaha Beach please criticise it.
Are you German?
he's canadian
So this is farb now.
I suggest Kong Skull Island as another look at the Vietnam veterans helicopter squadrons.
I'd love to play a Call of Duty from a Vietnamese point of view.. Ambushing US armor columns, taking down choppas, taking down F4s with AA... Would be fun, and Americans are actually the bad guys in this war.
Is it realistic, nah, is it fun, ja.
Okay... I hate Call of Duty (beyond the OG Modern Warfare) as much as the next sensible guy, but you can't critique a couple of hits in-game like that... it's a game for a reason.
"The turning point in the war" There was no turning point. The PAVN and VC had the country on lock since the end of WWII. Great video as always though. Keep it up.
The political turning point. The US started pulling back troops after that year until the full removal of ground forces, which eventually led to the invasion of South Vietnam by the North.
@@historylegends Thank you for the clarification! When a war happens there are actually two wars, The "Physical" war and the "Political" war. I absolutely can agree with you on that.
The hueys are incredibly inaccurate
You talk like the Vietcong was a Advanced military force they were poorly funded by they government they didn't always have the right weapon to battle they would battle the United states many times just with their rifles in grenades 🤨🤨🤨
What he is talking about is the equipment of the Liberation Army (Viet Cong) from the time after 1968.
Spoiler alert, you can actually blame the innacuracies of Fracture Jaw to the fact that your character, Bell, wasn't actually there.
I think Adler was with Sims in the helicopter. These are the missions they have been through but with Bell with them
Vietcong 1 100x times better
M16 wouldnt be burst it would be automatic