The Legend of Korra: A Beautiful Mess

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  • čas přidán 23. 09. 2018
  • The Legend of Korra is a show with great ideas but not so great execution, and this video explores why I think it is a beautiful mess.
    Patreon: / razbuten
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    Edit by Jesse Guarascia: / guarascia: / guarascia
    Thank you to Perrydactyl Show, Steven The Homeless, and GC Positive for helping with script revisions.
    #Korra #Avatar #TLOK
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  • @razbuten
    @razbuten  Před 5 lety +3215

    So, this one is a little different than my video on Avatar: The Last Airbender. It was a little harder for me to just focus on one element of the show, so I focused more on the series as a whole and the various elements I liked or didn't like. I also mention at the end of this video that I am going to work on a video that is essentially what my rewrite of Book 2 would look like, so if that interests you, let me know. I am going to make it no matter what, but if there is enough interest in me doing it, I will make it sooner.
    Anyway, have a good one, and I hope you enjoy it!

    • @UdyKumra
      @UdyKumra Před 5 lety +11

      I would love to see this video! I've often thought of how I might rewrite Season 2 and would love to see another person's thoughts. :)

    • @isaacweston6066
      @isaacweston6066 Před 5 lety +5

      I second that, it would be awesome to know your perspective.

    • @Wizard_Pikachu
      @Wizard_Pikachu Před 5 lety +5

      I'm glad I want to kind of a unanimously agrees That season 2 is where everything kind of got bent out of shape.
      even then season 1 had its mess of problems with destroying bloodbending as we know it destroying how special other people were for lightning bending, metal bending, and other such things and instead of making it into a mundane system that works for everyday use.

    • @Shadowmask8
      @Shadowmask8 Před 5 lety +4

      So interested. Do it. Do it. Do it.

    • @sparxstreak02
      @sparxstreak02 Před 5 lety +1

      PLEEEEASE do the Book 2 rewrite!

  • @madyi3235
    @madyi3235 Před 4 lety +4826

    When Jinora took off her hood and looked exactly like Aang... that hit me like a truck

    • @radicalfan8743
      @radicalfan8743 Před 4 lety +166

      Saaammee, it touched my heart a little too

    • @tomasvrabec1845
      @tomasvrabec1845 Před 4 lety +519

      I had mixed feelings.
      It did touch me to the heart but also.... it cracked me up because I remembered how triggered Aang was when a Girl played him in the review episode (island theatre) :dd

    • @primeempire8017
      @primeempire8017 Před 3 lety +133

      @@tomasvrabec1845 Aang found it cringe which was funny but I'm sure he will be proud of his granddaughter.

    • @avery1452
      @avery1452 Před 3 lety +4

      i don’t even know how to put how i felt into words

    • @finnheisenheim8274
      @finnheisenheim8274 Před 3 lety +6

      To not feel sad......i think how accurate the ember island theater casted a girl to play aang

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi Před 5 lety +8026

    Don't disrespect my main man Sokka. He helped too. Also Momo. Momo was critical to the narrative.

    • @thomnasilikeswordfighting5506
      @thomnasilikeswordfighting5506 Před 5 lety +133

      dang. Dude you are every where

    • @mrmehbob8244
      @mrmehbob8244 Před 5 lety +32

      thomnas ilikeswordfighting i think theres multiple obi wans.. not sure though

    • @Tommy1marg
      @Tommy1marg Před 5 lety +265

      dude Sokka was a guy with a plan! Without him they would be stuck on iceberg

    • @chrisblankenship335
      @chrisblankenship335 Před 5 lety +3

      It was only supposed to be one season

    • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
      @Obi-Wan_Kenobi Před 5 lety +82

      You are correct in there being, multiple Kenobis. Remember my profile pick, however, for I am the original, the genuine article. The rest are just clones. Impressive clones, but clones nonetheless. ;-)

  • @chorus0126
    @chorus0126 Před 3 lety +2820

    I quite liked LoK despite its flaws, it was still very enjoyable especially in books 3 and 4 but cutting off the other Avatars like that really hurt in a bad way

    • @Rebsuke
      @Rebsuke Před 3 lety +147

      And people prefer say that is garbage, when is a good show, especially if we avoid book 2 and only saw the 2 episode about wan of that season. book 3 I considered one of the best by all the height and meaning that has on it, book 4 for how much korra grew up and book 1 for the equallist

    • @jacobf2833
      @jacobf2833 Před 3 lety +67

      Wow you summarized my exact feelings really well. Still a great show, especially Seasons 3 and 4, really the biggest thing that sucks about it is how it screws with the avatar line, and S2 in general

    • @chorus0126
      @chorus0126 Před 3 lety +101

      @@jacobf2833 It was like losing Aang for real, it ain't right

    • @jacobf2833
      @jacobf2833 Před 3 lety +22

      General Chorus yeah exactly like the best part of S1 in my opinion were the flashbacks of Aang, Sokka, toph, etc and was hoping for that throughout the show but they literally just screwed up one of the main key elements of being the avatar. Plus it would’ve been nice if we got yet another later avatar show for them to look back at Aang AND Korra and the other old ones

    • @socalspirit805
      @socalspirit805 Před 3 lety +18

      General Chorus THAT MADE ME SO SAD/MAD. I’m still not over it

  • @vlogswithgavin6371
    @vlogswithgavin6371 Před 3 lety +1134

    "Beautiful mess"
    That sentence perfectly describes the entire series.

    • @noterenyega9158
      @noterenyega9158 Před 3 lety +3

      I love how there were no replies to your comment LOL....

    • @meatiest1989
      @meatiest1989 Před 3 lety +1

      @@noterenyega9158 lmao

    • @ashwanishahrawat4607
      @ashwanishahrawat4607 Před 2 lety

      I wrote exactly the same thing, and there you were 1yr ahead of me. :)

    • @tsumugi9880
      @tsumugi9880 Před rokem

      I didn't even watched the series yet and watched a few clips but i think you're right

    • @sasukehickson3390
      @sasukehickson3390 Před rokem

      I like it!!!

  • @TheAussieNinja84
    @TheAussieNinja84 Před 4 lety +3900

    Really pissed to hear Nickelodeon dicked them around on whether they would get more seasons or not, because that was what hurt the show the most IMO.

    • @smart.but.stupid
      @smart.but.stupid Před 4 lety +91

      What hurt the show were the writers, end of story.

    • @Juanmaligno
      @Juanmaligno Před 4 lety +574

      @@smart.but.stupid I dont think you got it? They didnt.know if they were getting another season so they had to write the season to basically end just in case vs nick letting them know so they could actually write a decent multi season story

    • @Juanmaligno
      @Juanmaligno Před 4 lety +221

      @@smart.but.stupid they did what they could with what they were given

    • @vylynhjensen6987
      @vylynhjensen6987 Před 4 lety +52

      They had already written the four seasons by the end of season one. The reviews weren’t good enough to continue and as it continued they moved it online

    • @smart.but.stupid
      @smart.but.stupid Před 4 lety +10

      @Androva J. what I know is that Bryke really mess up and nothing will ever make it better with them. Watch and you'll see lmao.

  • @cameroncutler5766
    @cameroncutler5766 Před 4 lety +3087

    When you said "Sokka helps too" all I could think was "3 vs 3 plus Sokka"
    *I CAN STILL FIGHT*

    • @dominict9325
      @dominict9325 Před 4 lety +202

      Best moment ever was when Ty Lee first chi blocked Katara and asked how she would fight without her bending, and Sokka yeeted a boomerang at her and said "I seem to manage."
      Sokka is the best character ever and I will fucking fight anyone who disagrees.

    • @gogofortnitefailmoments5683
      @gogofortnitefailmoments5683 Před 4 lety +7

      Dominic Tee legend😂👏

    • @averagejo8906
      @averagejo8906 Před 4 lety +9

      Dominic Tee huzzah! A man of quality!
      But fr tho Sokka is such a great character and deserved better

    • @JacobSmith-po4tc
      @JacobSmith-po4tc Před 4 lety +12

      Why did I read I CAN STILL FIGHT in Sokkas voice

    • @HerooftheWild
      @HerooftheWild Před 4 lety

      Nice pfp

  • @gabs8867
    @gabs8867 Před 3 lety +2555

    Aang always had his friends helping him overcome his sadness and dissapointments, while Korra had to deal with shit all by herself most of the time. It's a really rough story.

    • @sunwukong5518
      @sunwukong5518 Před 3 lety +260

      That is why Mako, Bolin and Asami could be written out of the story with next to no consequence

    • @ng7756
      @ng7756 Před 3 lety +176

      Because she CHOSE to deal with it by herself.

    • @sunwukong5518
      @sunwukong5518 Před 3 lety +70

      @@ng7756 then why were Mako and Bolin even made?

    • @ng7756
      @ng7756 Před 3 lety +35

      @@sunwukong5518 You tell me

    • @alyy892
      @alyy892 Před 3 lety +221

      NG aang did too. He ran away so many times and thought he needed to do it all on his own. But they never left his side. Even when Aang disappointed them when he didn’t told them about Hakodas letter to his children, they still believed in Aang and came back to him. They knew together they are stronger. Their friendship bond was so strong. The new Avatar Team is no comparison which us really sad to see.

  • @newit2184
    @newit2184 Před 3 lety +1913

    The episode where Korra was recovering from that poison crushed me, it was raw and beautiful and heartbreaking.

    • @icedtea9615
      @icedtea9615 Před 3 lety +52

      same I was bawling my eyes out cause I feel like her feelings and emotions were relatable

    • @isaacsantos6200
      @isaacsantos6200 Před 3 lety +3

      LOL

    • @daniellockwood630
      @daniellockwood630 Před 3 lety +5

      And it all went downhill from there

    • @kristynicole6201
      @kristynicole6201 Před 3 lety +57

      I completely agree. In real life, people go through physical or emotional traumas that take years of struggle to recover from. Seeing a cartoon character confront a harsh reality like that was really powerful and comforting.

    • @isaacsantos6200
      @isaacsantos6200 Před 3 lety

      @@kristynicole6201 🤣

  • @somedudeonearth4978
    @somedudeonearth4978 Před 4 lety +4166

    THIS is how you review The Legend of Korra. Acknowledge it's strengths AND weaknesses, not ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY talk about the weaknesses and ignore the strengths.

    • @radiationshepherd
      @radiationshepherd Před 4 lety +102

      Yeah as someone who loves the show I've been seeking out people who actually see what I see in it, flaws and all

    • @mariobadia4553
      @mariobadia4553 Před 4 lety +29

      Even though the weaknesses out way any so called strength that it has. like the fact that bolin asami and not zuko get no development at all.

    • @DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly
      @DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly Před 4 lety +11

      What you mean dont like it when someone just list off all the things that ATLA did that korra did not. Then call it war crime

    • @sageoverheaven
      @sageoverheaven Před 4 lety +85

      I don't agree with this mentality. While yes, acknowledging strengths is important, Korra is not an independent series; it's a sequel, and fans have every right to expect the same level of nuance and meticulous writing that the original had.
      What pisses so many people, myself included, off, is how corners were obviously and conspicuously cut. If we were to roll over and accept this, we enable the creation of more such content. Things they got perfectly right literally in the last series they worked on now going wrong is an inexcusable regression.

    • @mariobadia4553
      @mariobadia4553 Před 4 lety +9

      @Adrian Sigales Muh lesbians!

  • @emilyw6737
    @emilyw6737 Před 3 lety +2465

    " I could keep watching shows in the avatar universe forever"
    YES.

    • @qinlee1182
      @qinlee1182 Před 3 lety +8

      I can watch only ATLA but LoK is good

    • @newsaxonyproductions7871
      @newsaxonyproductions7871 Před 3 lety +28

      They should make a Kyoshi movie or two based on the Duology.

    • @emilyw6737
      @emilyw6737 Před 3 lety +13

      A kyoshi warrior movie 💜 I would watch that. The characters are all so rich, avatar changed my life. Heart centered and spiritually balanced. So much compassion. The Kyoshi warriors would make a great spin off

    • @newsaxonyproductions7871
      @newsaxonyproductions7871 Před 3 lety

      @@emilyw6737 It would actually be closer to a organized crime-featuring heist movie, at least for the first one.

    • @daywalker3735
      @daywalker3735 Před 3 lety +1

      I keep wanting to see shows about previous avatars and stuff like that

  • @justphil84
    @justphil84 Před 3 lety +114

    I like Korra. Being an adult is difficult, you suddenly have responsibility for yourself and learn the world is full of indifference. No one is gonna deal with your baggage for you, and you have to process things on your own so you can grow. You don’t spend 24/7 with your friends. You don’t see your family as often as you’d like. You find that life isn’t black and white, and it’s mostly varying shades of grey. You often have to deal with things you don’t want to, and sometimes come across people who make you feel like you don’t matter. And love is complicated. Ultimately you learn life is what you make it, and enjoy those fleeting moments of joy when they come. Overall the only development I didn’t like was losing connection to past lives. But I think this can easily be remedied in a sequel where the new avatar goes on a spirit quest to reconnect. Would be cool to see more previous avatars anyway. Energy never goes away, it just changes. I’d like to think Aang’s spirit is still around, maybe just lost.

    • @lifeisberserk9566
      @lifeisberserk9566 Před 4 měsíci +4

      You basically just described how depressing life is after high school hurts to real

    • @trianapena1995
      @trianapena1995 Před měsícem

      I’m 3 years late but I just want to say that this was such a perfect encapsulation of Korra’s show and what I find to be the most charming aspect of it! It can be such a raw reflection of what real life and becoming an adult (or in Korra’s case, the Avatar) can be like. As someone who is in the midst of their 20’s and struggling with the things you mentioned above sometimes for the first time, I think I find comfort in the idea that Korra not only struggles with these things too, but rarely ever runs away from them and does her best to stay the course (obvi barring when she went back home for 3 years, but that was a necessary break).

  • @LS-kp6em
    @LS-kp6em Před 3 lety +450

    I love the LoK but the criticism is fair. I wish each season had 24 episodes, they could have focused on story and character development.

    • @bruh-fw7op
      @bruh-fw7op Před 3 lety +56

      it’s funny because you can blame Nick for almost everything lol

    • @FrostedFlakes
      @FrostedFlakes Před 3 lety +10

      Yea I binged like the entire show in a week lol

    • @demoncat1423
      @demoncat1423 Před 3 lety +6

      Fact : 1ep took 18000 drawing pic😎 to done

    • @22taylorsversion9
      @22taylorsversion9 Před 2 lety +19

      It was all Nickelodeon but y'all keep trashing this amazing series

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 Před 2 lety +9

      @@22taylorsversion9 Doesn’t change the fact that it’s garbage.

  • @supermal112233
    @supermal112233 Před 5 lety +7801

    When Korra lost her bending
    Me: Wow, this is so deep. Korra who was born with the power of both fire,water and earth bending and barely took Tenzin's teaching to heart loses her powers. Can Korra overcome her weakness of only having the element to bend air, can she still be the underdog? Holy shit I'm really interested now.
    Aang: JESUS TOUCH
    Me: Ah...

    • @Voltaic314
      @Voltaic314 Před 5 lety +872

      Side question: Couldn't she just theoretically get her bending back from each of the 4 element lion turtles? lol
      Also, if Rava was the source of her avatar power, why is it even possible for her to lose her bending in the first place? Isn't that the ultimate plot armor in the avatar universe?

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis Před 5 lety +303

      It would have been so cool that way....

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Před 5 lety +601

      That stuff is mostly due to that only 1 season being planned. If they had knew it would continue, I'm sure they would have explored that more. It's also the main reason each season is more disconnected

    • @electricboxers9043
      @electricboxers9043 Před 5 lety +30

      @@Voltaic314 damn, thats true

    • @PhilFromSchool
      @PhilFromSchool Před 5 lety +152

      first time i watched the book 1 finale, i thought she was just gonna be an airbender only forever after. making her some weird new "last airbender"

  • @erikthiele289
    @erikthiele289 Před 5 lety +2844

    You can't just put "The Avatar's Love" as background music and expect me to still see your video over the tears.

    • @lym1875
      @lym1875 Před 4 lety +33

      I'm late but same, it just made all these feels really overwhelming ;_;

    • @musikafossora
      @musikafossora Před 4 lety +1

      Thlymun me too 😢

    • @stevenbryant8160
      @stevenbryant8160 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes bro

    • @Hayden_Cat
      @Hayden_Cat Před 4 lety +6

      Thlymun I know right I literally had to pause the video to calm my emotions

    • @daisho509
      @daisho509 Před 4 lety +2

      Love that series so much I've seen it a million times 😭 it's a problem I can quote every line of each episode 😭

  • @zerikeri
    @zerikeri Před 3 lety +68

    EVERYONE FORGETS THE PRODUCTION CONSTRAINTS/ OBSTACLES THE CREATORS HAD TO DEAL WITH.

  • @krispy4624
    @krispy4624 Před 3 lety +165

    The creators should make 2 more avatar series to complete the avatar cycle....

  • @andrewrivera190
    @andrewrivera190 Před 4 lety +2044

    That’s actually a good way to describe the show. Beautiful in its ideas, art, and acting but messy in execution. A beautiful mess. And to be honest, that has a lot to do with how Nick treated the writers. They gave the writers 12 episodes and then when Nick realized people actually like Avatar they demanded 14 more episodes from the creators to be pumped out quickly and gave NO TIME for the creators to do what they do best and create awesome extensive narratives. Instead everything feels rush and smooshed together.

    • @dengmandang
      @dengmandang Před 4 lety +86

      Yes! That’s why I’m glad Netflix will be taking over authority for the live action.
      I would’ve liked Korra if the storylines and writing were better executed.

    • @cosmic_sloth
      @cosmic_sloth Před 4 lety +21

      It also didn't help that some of the writing was just in general terrible. I feel like if the same people wrote it unrushed, it would still be a hot mess, because the core of the issue in the show is Korra as a character. She's terribly written

    • @MrShadowThief
      @MrShadowThief Před 4 lety +67

      @@cosmic_sloth "It's bad because of the circumstances but also the circumstances don't matter and it would be bad anyway."
      What?

    • @cosmic_sloth
      @cosmic_sloth Před 4 lety +9

      @@MrShadowThief Yes, what I'm saying is that I feel like it still would have been bad even if it was unrushed. That's just my opinion on it, we won't know for sure, because it'll never be done, but I feel like it still would have been pretty bad. The original show was a masterpiece, there was no way any sequel could live up to it. It should have just ended there
      Is that so hard to understand for you?
      And to clarify, as soon as more writers came in the mix, it was bound to be bad. If it was just the original trio it probably would have done fine, but no, the addition of quantity over quality was prioritized. The more "committee" type writing incorporated, the worse a story is. And that was basically the entirety of The Legend of Korra; all committee writing past season 1

    • @MrShadowThief
      @MrShadowThief Před 4 lety +19

      @@cosmic_sloth So that's pretty much a wild guess, right? Sorry to bother you, then. Although, I think we can see how it would fare if it was under better conditions from the start, since how much better the last two books were than the first two.

  • @Callsign-Wildcard
    @Callsign-Wildcard Před 4 lety +5555

    This is by far the most respectfully even handed review of Korra I've seen to date, and I really appreciate it for that.

    • @elbarto5939
      @elbarto5939 Před 4 lety +32

      Facts

    • @MegaIata
      @MegaIata Před 4 lety +94

      Indeed keep getting those with its garbage here is why

    • @dami5154
      @dami5154 Před 3 lety +106

      most of them r blinded by nostalgia
      the show was a solid 7/10 but again it was following a 10/10
      edit: although verrik and zhu li were hilarious and were 100% my favorite part of lok

    • @VMan29397
      @VMan29397 Před 3 lety +25

      @@dami5154 i know its the same thing with spiderman films so many people blinded by nostalgia just bitch and whine about how its not like the toby films when that is the whole point

    • @curtismurphy6206
      @curtismurphy6206 Před 3 lety +26

      @@dami5154 true. Although, I will stand by the fact that I think Korra had a few things that are better than Last Airbender. I personally think Beginnings is the best episodes in either series.

  • @skyelevit8109
    @skyelevit8109 Před 3 lety +18

    we should not forget that Korra started off older than Aang, so there is no wonder she wanted to find herself and to do everything by herself, she was a teenager with a great power that noone appreciated - that feels very true.

  • @thedarktar9
    @thedarktar9 Před 3 lety +182

    Honestly LOK is a great story of a natural avatar finding herself as a human, it may have been poorly depicted and contradicted a lot of what it wanted to portray but the message is clear. It’s more modern in the sense that we as young people are constantly being pressured to find ourselves and are constantly being reminded of how much better the past was, Korra as a young adult goes through the same. While ATLA was about a young human looking to find himself as the avatar that he did not initially want to become. Have to appreciate the lessons learned from both now that I’m grown 🙏

    • @jollyd.joestar3937
      @jollyd.joestar3937 Před 3 lety +3

      This LOK emotional and moral parts of the story was on POINT, the actual story and plot was meh

    • @gudhaxer41343
      @gudhaxer41343 Před 2 lety +4

      @@jollyd.joestar3937 thats bcuz the writers didnt know if they were gonna get another season or not which is the reason for the inconsistencies. Nickelodeon also had low hopes for a female led show.

    • @curtiscj3087
      @curtiscj3087 Před 2 lety

      It’s trash

  • @virgil2219
    @virgil2219 Před 4 lety +1664

    I think part of the problem with Legend of Korra's pacing is that it only has 13 episodes per season, rather than the 20 odd episodes that each season of ATLA did. With that amount of time, they had time to breathe and interact, strengthening their bond not only between the characters, but we the audience also got to know the characters better as well. With Korra, there's always something to do, always a new plot point, which isn't a bad thing necessarily. ATLA isn't the only "right" way to tell a story,
    I love Legend of Korra, for the most part, but I wish they had spent more time on the other characters, especially Bo Lin and Mako

    • @thecautionbandi649
      @thecautionbandi649 Před 4 lety +45

      I love everything you said. Great points.But it's Bolin not Bo Lin.

    • @adeptdamage3669
      @adeptdamage3669 Před 4 lety +21

      I think they should only have 1 villan and main threat in the show.

    • @julesx8586
      @julesx8586 Před 4 lety +58

      Literally what I was saying, it’s nicks fault that they weren’t able to hv long seasons, for everything we’ve seen in LoK u can clearly see some parts hv been rushed because of the episode limit

    • @uwukotoa
      @uwukotoa Před 4 lety +68

      Bryke did the best they could with what they were given but Nick was super shitty to them during the show’s entire creation. They had a fraction of the budget that atla did and had to treat every season like their last. They originally thought it was only going to be one season long and only got signed on for more when book one started airing. I wholeheartedly blame Nick for most of the shortcomings in LoK. The writers did their best with the shitty treatment they were given.

    • @marieknep5567
      @marieknep5567 Před 3 lety +17

      @@uwukotoa Yeah... sorry, but no. I agree that Nick did them dirty, and that is partially why LoK suffered... but the writers still fucked up in areas. They completely destroyed established rules and lore that THEY THEMSELVES set up in ATLA. What is the point of making established rules in one season if you're going to completely change that shit and throw it in the trash in the next season? You cannot 100% excuse Bryke from this, especially when they did make shitty decisions, even with Nick down their necks 24/7.

  • @lewisoliverleo
    @lewisoliverleo Před 5 lety +1481

    I think the biggest struggle Korra suffered, as a production, was lack of planning. Legend of Korra was meant to be only one season long, which is why at the end of Book 1 all the loose ends seemed to have been tied up, even if a bit rushed. With the demand for a second season they had to start just making it up as they went, and that ultimately affected everything that followed.

    • @Gamelover254
      @Gamelover254 Před 5 lety +121

      The ending of book 1 seemed rushed because they had to change it around because they found out they were getting another book. Asami was originally supposed to be with Iroh and she would join the United Forces.

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 Před 5 lety +156

      Asami was actually originally a villain, she was a spy working for the equalists working for her father, but the creators change their minds and made her part of team avatar instead. Which is probably why she didn't have much to do for the other seasons other then providing transportation and maybe fighting a random mook.

    • @ubadman1
      @ubadman1 Před 5 lety +81

      no they made up season 2 as they went 3 and 4 were planned to happen which is why those two are so much better overall.

    • @alex-iz5jv
      @alex-iz5jv Před 5 lety +12

      yeah the season ended in a neat little not cause it wasn't meant to continue
      thats why t
      s2 was lacking it was them getting back on theor feet

    • @bigfootnintendorazr
      @bigfootnintendorazr Před 5 lety +63

      Luis Leonardo comment should be pinned. Season 1 was supposed to be stand-alone. Season 2 was requested afterward, again being stand-alone. Seasons 3 and 4 were written to be connected.

  • @Krystalmyth
    @Krystalmyth Před 3 lety +314

    Korra flat out used up so many incredible plotlines in just one show. Each season's arc could have easily been expanded upon instead of isolating them for each season. It's just way too damn much.

    • @itsmj3103
      @itsmj3103 Před 3 lety +34

      indeed, sadly the whole show was underwhelmingly overwhelming if that makes any sense

    • @moonmannd7501
      @moonmannd7501 Před 3 lety +8

      My biggest gripe is that the 2 plot halves of S2 are fascinating explorations and expansions of already established world elements fro ATLA. But I don't really know if I think they mend well, and with some rewriting they could have been 2 riveting back-to-back stories

    • @petardjordjevic2967
      @petardjordjevic2967 Před 3 lety +7

      This show had a ton of missed potential. If only the writers used their fucking brains it would have been a whole lot better.

    • @cactuscat8550
      @cactuscat8550 Před 3 lety +2

      @@petardjordjevic2967 I mean, ngl but I have to agree-

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth Před 3 lety +4

      @Side 999 I can blame Nick for the hand off of Season 1 and 2. That was a waste of a plotline and a shame. However when Nickelodeon gave them three seasons and they chose to have three completely separate plot lines, each with over-the-top stakes, world-shattering consequences, larger than life revelations, and impossible resolutions... With very little crossplay between them (except for Zaheer's deus-ex machina for Korra in S4) - That was all on the writers... and consequence of their losing Aaron Ehasz. Who more and more seems to have been the heart of Avatar as a whole.

  • @corporalsilver6981
    @corporalsilver6981 Před 3 lety +75

    I personally believe this is the greatest indepth review and critical analysis of the show on CZcams. You didn't just scream "LeGEnd oF KorRa BAd" but you actually identified and pointed out things that make the show good and bad while also acknowledging, unlike alot of people, that a sequel will never be able to live up to its predecessors. I LOVED The Last Airbender and while I have some issues with Legend of Korra, it's not like I didn't have similar problems while watching The Last Airbender. Keep it up.

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 Před 2 lety +2

      LOK doesn’t have many similar problems to avatar.

  • @kianaclercin6995
    @kianaclercin6995 Před 3 lety +3874

    "This show is about a girl who fights for the world but the world doesn't give a damn about her" finally a youtuber who tells the ups and downs of LOK beautifully well done.
    Edit:Woah I have never gotten so many likes in my life if you disagree that's ok but don't fight over it.

    • @kianaclercin6995
      @kianaclercin6995 Před 3 lety +31

      @@mooshmooshtime7535 Yeah its something like that but the thing is wondering if they really need the Avature or not is something they should've protrayed more in the show.

    • @amanpreetgill7564
      @amanpreetgill7564 Před 3 lety +61

      @@kianaclercin6995 well I mean its definitely much more complicated than that and that just shows Korra on a much better perspective, when in reality The actions and speeches of the president of republic city made so much more sense given the context, for one korra never learned how to become a fully balanced avatar like everyone else and pushed at everything from negotiating to spirituality (often resorting to violence ofc), and she definitely never learned to mature past the age of 10 because she never truly had to live with any consequences of her actions, I mean in the first episode she fought with the metal bender police force "because rules dont apply to the avatar" and as soon as she was being interrogated, tenzien has her released (again protecting a "strong independent female character"). the disconnect in the writing was most flawed when it came to their protagonist most of all. They literally sold themselves as being the mature team avatar yet the decisions and relationships handled in TLA gang were a lot more grown-up. This show was just sad tbh, if LOK was its own show and didn't borrow practically everything from the original and especially destroy it to make Korra look cool, maybe it would have faired better in reviews critically and normally.

    • @afrogenix
      @afrogenix Před 3 lety +23

      @@amanpreetgill7564 this man......or woman is spittin fax right now

    • @dgagamingaesir
      @dgagamingaesir Před 3 lety +14

      @@amanpreetgill7564 spot on

    • @blazingexil4003
      @blazingexil4003 Před 3 lety +8

      Amanpreet gill wasn’t the avatar prior to Aang for the most part always like that when it came to authority and the world really didn’t give a damm about Korra. She also learned from her mistakes and became a lot less violent in the later seasons. Her being the way she is make a lot of sense too considering her upbringing.

  • @Roan.bot.
    @Roan.bot. Před 4 lety +574

    “The relationship between Zuko and . . . pretty much everyone”

    • @addbuda
      @addbuda Před 3 lety +1

      Lol zuko had romantic relationspips only with that girl from ba sin se and mei.

  • @gabrieldeoliveira8304
    @gabrieldeoliveira8304 Před 3 lety +136

    A “beautiful mess” is probably the best way to call LOK.

    • @gabrieldeoliveira8304
      @gabrieldeoliveira8304 Před 3 lety

      @@phillipsandgren3094 admittedly, that did make me laugh.

    • @goodname9371
      @goodname9371 Před 3 lety

      Phillip Sandgren 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @astronomical3342
      @astronomical3342 Před 3 lety

      A good shitty mess
      Its like taking a massive shit but you feel proud of it

  • @nojo9308
    @nojo9308 Před 3 lety +61

    I honestly think that if another tv company had made TLOK instead in Nick, then it could have gone down as one of the best shows of all time along with ATLA. Imagine what could have been if they had longer seasons, more money, a steady work environment, and no one limiting what they could put on screen. TLOK is great but if it fleshed out more characters and was properly made for an older audience then ATLA was, then it could be phenomenal.

  • @jaemurphy3189
    @jaemurphy3189 Před 5 lety +1537

    MOMOs arc was pure genius

    • @georgespiggott5615
      @georgespiggott5615 Před 5 lety +139

      originally he was gonna be gyatso's reincarnation, watching over aang iirc. THAT would've been cool.

    • @YeahAlright1983
      @YeahAlright1983 Před 4 lety +22

      @@georgespiggott5615 weird, but cool :)

    • @Kurameno
      @Kurameno Před 4 lety +6

      AGREE

    • @willbowling8084
      @willbowling8084 Před 4 lety +37

      George Spiggott I’m gonna pretend like that is canon from now on. That’s amazing

    • @aldobautista4185
      @aldobautista4185 Před 4 lety +21

      When he went looking for appa 😔💔

  • @abigailchang7249
    @abigailchang7249 Před 4 lety +2452

    Netflix should just give the creators an opportunity to bring the series back but with full creative control

    • @IsabelFAyala
      @IsabelFAyala Před 4 lety +78

      Netflix doesn't have the rights to either show. They were both Nickolodeon

    • @thisisfine4093
      @thisisfine4093 Před 4 lety +31

      After the live action Atla series they should, I 100% agree

    • @uwukotoa
      @uwukotoa Před 4 lety +109

      Cindy Zhu a live action Korra would be too powerful, there’d be way too many gorgeous and strong women I’d actually die.

    • @th3azscorpio
      @th3azscorpio Před 4 lety +21

      That could end with either a possible masterpiece, or disaster. Given the state of writing in most series these days, I'd go with the latter.

    • @mirkohoble
      @mirkohoble Před 3 lety +5

      That would be perfect! This would fix every mistake they did!

  • @beemimoo3746
    @beemimoo3746 Před 3 lety +34

    HEY! Even Momo missing Appa was a very touching part

  • @jatavion4058
    @jatavion4058 Před 3 lety +690

    After hating korra as a kid, I rewatched korra and it’s actually good, yeah it had moments where it was off but I actually loved it

    • @jatavion4058
      @jatavion4058 Před 3 lety +43

      Phillip Sandgren I had to understand it’s not aang so don’t expect to be. And to rewatch in a different mindset

    • @MrDragonorp
      @MrDragonorp Před 3 lety +11

      true, beside amon ending being a bender every villain was amazing, Korra journey made sense and was very interesting, I actually dont really mind the season 2 world development with raja and the likes tho you can always make something better in hindsight. it's just so sad that the creators didnt get the full support from the get-go as they had with the avatar. such a shame has full support would have alleviated this show greatly

    • @AL-cc7tl
      @AL-cc7tl Před 3 lety

      What are you like 15 lol your still a kid bruv !!!FUCKING DIABOLICAL MATE!!!!!!

    • @al-nemer5063
      @al-nemer5063 Před 3 lety +6

      Michael Alexander ok boomer

    • @al-nemer5063
      @al-nemer5063 Před 3 lety +7

      אור פאר it’s just those “nostalgia” ppl think themselves know what they’re talking about lol they just hate it because it’s not Aang

  • @amberbeam4248
    @amberbeam4248 Před 5 lety +712

    “Less is more but I could keep watching episodes of the Avatar universe. Forever.”
    That’s perfectly put. We know that more would spoil it but it could be beautiful

    • @Swigma
      @Swigma Před 5 lety +5

      Amber Beam well said but I don’t even want to give it the chance to be anything less than what it is now

    • @GreenFesh
      @GreenFesh Před 5 lety +3

      nah man, wouldnt spoil it. there are so man, good seauel storiea out there. look at all the animes, james bond movies, all the action hero comics and so on. they could do a lot of good stories in that same universe. they just conpletely changed their storytelling in korra. i would be up for an avatar keoshi prequel or sth

    • @Swigma
      @Swigma Před 5 lety +5

      Liontari Music everytime they decide to try again they are gambling with the legacy or the masterpiece that is the avatar universe. That’s just too much to gamble with. Why stop when it’s already perfect

    • @gonzalovazquezavila535
      @gonzalovazquezavila535 Před 5 lety +1

      I'm not on board with this. I wish we could turn back in time and just leave avatar as it is, no crappy live action movie, no dissapointing legend of korra. And now, there's another avatar series coming and I don't think it will be great

    • @pauljs75
      @pauljs75 Před 5 lety +1

      But a post-Korra generational jump would put them in a contemporary and very modern world. I'm not sure how the significance of those bending skills would play out with all the current contrivances. Lots of weapons and tools that could be available would put most non-benders nearly on par of those with an average level of innate abilities. I suppose some artificial augmentation would help those with bending stay ahead, but that seems more like a gimmick than a main plot device.
      Such may be interesting to see how it'd play out, dealing with the general loss of significance of the special abilities and Avatar Korra just seemingly walking out on the last generation. But I don't think the original writers would be willing to deal with that. (Korra's overall story ran out of steam too fast, and used too many Mary Sue or Deus Ex Machina type shortcuts. So I don't think they'd want to do that again.)

  • @jackson8739
    @jackson8739 Před 5 lety +4543

    I still like Korra, but it has a lot of issues. My biggest issue is how Korra loses her connection with past avatars

    • @Muppet567
      @Muppet567 Před 4 lety +546

      Yeah. I mean
      Avatar state equals the combination of all the past avatars wisdom and power. When she loses her connection with them, her avatar state becomes glowy eyed Korra instead of this awesome God mode. Plus avatar aang and all the other avatars are permanently gone. That would be sad if it didn't make me angry because Korra didn't deserve to yank on my heart strings.

    • @tylerreed2409
      @tylerreed2409 Před 4 lety +676

      What bugs me most about that is that it had no narrative purpose, it didn't make her grow in any new way of change the world in an interesting way.

    • @Muppet567
      @Muppet567 Před 4 lety +293

      @@tylerreed2409 yeah. It literally just took power away for the sake of taking power away.

    • @tylerreed2409
      @tylerreed2409 Před 4 lety +284

      @@Muppet567 And kind of destroyed the very sense of what the avatar is. I think it would have been acceptable if Korra was made to be a unique and exceptional avatar, and we actually got stories of subsequent avatars and how the diminished avatar state makes it more difficult for each of them to stay relevant in a changing world. It would be interesting to see each new avatar having to define what the avatar's role will be in their own time.

    • @Muppet567
      @Muppet567 Před 4 lety +91

      @@tylerreed2409 yeah it would be interesting. But the creators were like "let's nerf the avatar!"

  • @mstampertenor
    @mstampertenor Před 3 lety +45

    When I first watched Atla, I saw it when it was first on Netflix. I loved every second, but there was no anticipation to see what would happen next. It was all there. When Korra aired, I got to grow up with the series, and the characters. I felt more connected to the more mature themes/characters.

  • @Confron7a7ion7
    @Confron7a7ion7 Před 3 lety +224

    Korra is still a fantastic show. It's easily one of the best cartoons out there. It's biggest issue is that it must stand next to The Last Air Bender. How the fuck is anything supposed to live up to that?

    • @Confron7a7ion7
      @Confron7a7ion7 Před 3 lety +14

      @@Flome810 Well I disagree and since art is purely subject, your opinion is equally as valid as mine.

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Confron7a7ion7 I was being rude their dude sorry I respect your opinion :)

    • @astronomical3342
      @astronomical3342 Před 3 lety +1

      Well naruto shippuden lived up to the og naruto nothing is impossible

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 Před 3 lety +1

      @@astronomical3342 Hell nah

    • @emmalion1976
      @emmalion1976 Před 3 lety

      @@astronomical3342 wait what was the season with the most fillers? Is it the og or shippuden

  • @zxk
    @zxk Před 3 lety +789

    Say whatever you want about the legend of korra but nothing is gonna beat that soundtrack, it makes me happy and want to cry at the same time it's just perfect.

  • @frickinfrick8488
    @frickinfrick8488 Před 4 lety +1024

    Korra isn’t as perfect as ATLA, but it had some incredible moments that I’ll never forget just the same as ATLA. I’ll always love this show, when you said you could watch stories from the avatar world forever I couldn’t agree more. I get so excited every time a new comic is released, but I’d die for another animated series.

    • @eshwartangirala2240
      @eshwartangirala2240 Před 4 lety +13

      Boopy Schmoops true some of the badass moments with Zaheer and Imon reminded me of some Azula scenes

    • @herosmith5662
      @herosmith5662 Před 4 lety +19

      Boopy Schmoops My sister and I had been talking about something like this, and it would be fun if they did a "Tales from the Four Nations" type show formatted a little more like the Clone Wars series, having 2/3/4 episode arcs relatively disconnected from each other, and just let us explore the world through the experiences of several characters. You could flesh out past avatars more, follow up on some smaller characters from both series, maybe find out what happened to Sokka and Suki...
      It's really a fantasy, but it would be fun nonetheless.

    • @frickinfrick8488
      @frickinfrick8488 Před 4 lety +2

      Hero Smith I would adore something like that! The franchise has so many interesting and endearing characters and locations it’d be a great fit for a bunch of short stories. If we ever got another animated series I’d love to see something like that rather than the story of the next avatar or something (not that I’d mind that either). It’s really a world I’d love to explore and see smaller stories in to flesh out the culture and history of everything.

    • @gemelwalters2942
      @gemelwalters2942 Před 4 lety +9

      ATLA was far from perfect

    • @frickinfrick8488
      @frickinfrick8488 Před 4 lety +5

      Gemel Walters yOu TaKe ThAt BaCk!!!!
      Jk it’s fine if you didn’t like it as much as I did

  • @ready1player31
    @ready1player31 Před 3 lety +23

    Personally I think the shorter seasons hurt it a lot, along with each villain only getting 12-13 episodes. You just can't expand to the same extent as ATLA with the fire nation and Ozai, but they could have set up a very similar conflict with Kuvira or Unalaq that spanned multiple seasons or at least 22-23 episode seasons.

  • @zoctorzoey7210
    @zoctorzoey7210 Před 3 lety +19

    I loved LOK because of Korra. She is an incredible character that goes through so many lengths, hardships, and an incredible amount of growth. Her conflict between saving the world and endangering it is beautiful. I do wish that the other characters got the same treatment as Korra, but the show is about Korra, and I think she carries it. This is clearest in the best seasons: 3 & 4

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 Před 9 měsíci +1

      This show aired when I was in high school and I loved it. Last airbender I saw on reruns I think but I love both, however i don’t like it when they’re compared to each other. I hate the fact that nick interfered a lot with Korra 😅

  • @roguishgoodlooks
    @roguishgoodlooks Před 5 lety +414

    "It's about a girl who fights for a world that doesn't give a damn about her" 👏👏👏

    • @elgatochurro
      @elgatochurro Před 4 lety +19

      Are you kidding me? Shes the most important thing in the universe, everyone cares about Korra

    • @gaara4667
      @gaara4667 Před 4 lety

      elgatochurro so explain the villains and people she tries to fight for

    • @elgatochurro
      @elgatochurro Před 4 lety +14

      @@gaara4667 Korra is treated like the most important spoiled brat in the whole world, just because shes the avatar, not that she deserves to be the avatar

    • @aegeon5650
      @aegeon5650 Před 4 lety +68

      elgatochurro
      Season 1: an entire movement of people advocate for an anti bending cause and ridicule and terrorize the avatar just because she is the poster boy of bending.
      Season 2: Korras own family member partners with the antithesis of the avatars spirit so that he can rid the world of her influence, and manipulates many people (including her cousins) into following this cause
      Season 3: Korra is BLAMED for the events that happen in season 2 by republic city by both humans and spirits alike, rather than attempting to compromise. And on top of that a group of powerful anarchists attempt to capture and kill her because they believe the world is better off without her, this in turn traumatizes her and levels her temporarily paralyzed, and that is what it takes for her critics to finally give her a break.
      Season 4: a dictator rises to power and tries to take the authority of Korra as the avatar away from her claiming she doesn't deserve it and it would be better off in her own hands.
      The show goes out of its way to communicate that Korra gets all of the most horrible shit in the world, prejudice, ostracization, acts of terror and trauma, almost all of which she didn't deserve at all just because she is the avatar. The only thing in the show that communicates her being a spoiled privileged brat is how she acts, and everyone puts up with it because she is the avatar, which by the end of the show she learns to grow out of. I'm sorry but I do not understand what you are getting at here

    • @elgatochurro
      @elgatochurro Před 4 lety +10

      @@aegeon5650 You're trying... but Korra only cared about HER OWN BENDING being taken away... and she ruins one guys relationship by not taking no for an answer, then she learns air bending... because plot... amazing stuff, well deserved and gets all her air bending back for free when she couldn't even sit down and meditate earlier.
      Korra gets all the past lives of avatar killed because she's too weak for the task and never properly trained.
      "Korra is blamed" it was kinda her fault because she never trained or did anything spiritual.
      The world is indeed better off without her, reroll for an avatar who cares about humanity
      The world gives Korra chance after chance, forgiveness after forgiveness, and she still fucks it all up. Nothing they even did to Korra was EVER on the level of suffering Aang got, Aangs first mistake meant he wasn't there for his people, his culture now destroyed and the fire nation much stronger. Meanwhile Korra gets tortured...
      And you're here stating Korra gets prejudice and hate when she's literally part if the problem and refuses to train properly in order to be worthy of her position...
      SHES A SPOILED BRAT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SHOW, WHO THE FUCK THREATENS THEIR BOYFRIEND WITH VIOLENCE??? DESTROYING GOVERNMENT PROPERTY IN HIS OFFICE, AT HIS PLACE IF WORK? DURING WORKING HOURS? IN FRONT IF HIM?

  • @Smoldymort
    @Smoldymort Před 4 lety +430

    Tbh I still wish they'd make another two shows, following an Earthbender avatar and a firebender to bring the show full cycle

    • @adrienlange9956
      @adrienlange9956 Před 3 lety +70

      I really want to see a mini series of Roku and Kyoshi, not a full show but maybe a small series of episodes explaining more lore.

    • @RealRoboKnight
      @RealRoboKnight Před 3 lety +12

      @@adrienlange9956 i would want to know more about Wan lol

    • @ohhail
      @ohhail Před 3 lety +16

      idk how i’d feel about it going further into the future, so many past generations that can be explored

    • @udidnthavetopisssohard
      @udidnthavetopisssohard Před 3 lety +23

      Instead of creating new characters, I think it would be easier to fill in the blanks by making shows based on the established ideas already laid out for Kyoshi and Roku. That way, world-building and plot is easier. Regardless, I don't really care what we get because if it's about Avatar I WILL watch it.

    • @phillipsandgren3094
      @phillipsandgren3094 Před 3 lety

      This is actually an amazing idea.

  • @frog_pogs
    @frog_pogs Před 2 lety +82

    i really liked korra’s team avatar because it seemed to reflect more young adult friendships. unlike aang’s gang, they arent school-age kids who travel the world and spend almost every second of everyday together. they are adults with responsibilities and jobs, but they still have time to support each other when they can and consider each other best friends.

    • @ErenKruger-qx3dt
      @ErenKruger-qx3dt Před 9 měsíci +6

      I didn't like the Krew mainly because they felt useless there was nothing they could that Korra couldn't do better

    • @mranima748
      @mranima748 Před 7 měsíci +5

      I don’t like the Krew for 3 main reasons:
      The characters are mostly one dimensional
      Korra isn’t a very likeable character
      All the relationships between everyone is ‘dating/exes’ while TLA had more creative connections

    • @queenberuthiel5469
      @queenberuthiel5469 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@mranima748
      Agreed. Personally, I feel like Mako and Bolin are just "sidekicks" to Korra. They don't outshine her or anything. They're just there when she needs some buddies. Aang's team are his friends. Katara and Toph at some point, became his teachers and Sokka is the leader of the group.

    • @nayrarodriguez3385
      @nayrarodriguez3385 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@ErenKruger-qx3dtbecause Korra is the avatar. It’s not like in Aang when he was learning the elements, Korra knew them already. They were there to offer support, not to outbest her in something

    • @nayrarodriguez3385
      @nayrarodriguez3385 Před 3 měsíci +4

      literally. Adults aren’t going to be able to stick together every day. Work, personal lives.. they made it realistic. Bolin and Mako couldn’t just abandon their lives for Korra, they NEEDED money to live. Asami had a whole company to take over and try to save after her father’s deals.

  • @MatheusLB2009
    @MatheusLB2009 Před 3 lety +45

    "Get over yourself, the world doesn't need you one bit" - Toph

    • @austinjohnsen4430
      @austinjohnsen4430 Před 3 lety +2

      Which is bullocks, because each season introduces a new villain that only Korra can hope to beat.

    • @MatheusLB2009
      @MatheusLB2009 Před 3 lety +5

      @@austinjohnsen4430 she didnt beat aman. She didnt beat Zahir, the airbenders did it for her. She didnt beat Kuvira. Damn she lost fights to chi blockers, Tarloq, and even old Toph. She is a terrible Avatar

    • @austinjohnsen4430
      @austinjohnsen4430 Před 3 lety +6

      @@MatheusLB2009 I’ll give it to you she needed to be saved by the airbenders, but she did technically beat Amon. She blew him out a window which forced him to water bend in front of his followers, destroying his reputation and credibility. Korra also forced Kuvira to retreat into the forest to get her spirit cannon in the finale.

    • @demoncat1423
      @demoncat1423 Před 3 lety

      @@MatheusLB2009 wait Aang terible too got beat by Toph beside Korra still have poison in her body 😒

    • @astronomical3342
      @astronomical3342 Před 3 lety

      @@demoncat1423 i mean she was young then and master earth bending

  • @Idontexisthihi001
    @Idontexisthihi001 Před 3 lety +2536

    Korra likers/lovers and dislikes/haters
    We can all agree on one thing
    It doesn’t get much worse then the movie

    • @neilbrooks6537
      @neilbrooks6537 Před 3 lety +345

      There is no movie in Ba Sing Se

    • @moonlit_sky127
      @moonlit_sky127 Před 3 lety +181

      @@neilbrooks6537 The Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai

    • @meatisomalley
      @meatisomalley Před 3 lety +14

      @Lily2345 the last airbender by shyamalan

    • @zesquadtv9791
      @zesquadtv9791 Před 3 lety +76

      Meatis O'Malley we don’t say that here

    • @rajiraji9136
      @rajiraji9136 Před 3 lety +79

      @@meatisomalley There is no such movie, the earth king has invited to lake laogai

  • @Heracross02
    @Heracross02 Před 4 lety +338

    I wish they could make an anthology series going into the different adventures the different avatars of the past had gone on since we don't see that many of the past avatars.

    • @M5YUILL
      @M5YUILL Před 4 lety +4

      Same I would love more between the series as well and honestly, It’s hard living with character you love just “going off into the sunset”

    • @Lukastar1
      @Lukastar1 Před 4 lety +6

      Anthologies are the shit we def need more of them

  • @bustedmusketproductions357
    @bustedmusketproductions357 Před 3 lety +58

    Im rewatching the show now and i think its alot more cleaner than we remember. But man the first half of season 2 is rough. I dont agree about the characters. They balance the characters pretty well by spreading out development throughout the seasons.

    • @weebleman6
      @weebleman6 Před 3 lety +3

      Season 2 is rough for sure. It has some shining moments though.
      Seasons 1 & 3 though?
      * *chefs kiss* *

    • @bustedmusketproductions357
      @bustedmusketproductions357 Před 3 lety +1

      @@weebleman6 3 might be the best season of all of avatar in fact a chefs kiss

    • @ryanmoore6259
      @ryanmoore6259 Před měsícem

      @@weebleman6 4 has some great moments and it shows her growth

  • @Evan-wq9ms
    @Evan-wq9ms Před 3 lety +2

    this is an amazing assessment. i clicked on it because the title made me think you would do a good job of capturing the highs & lows, and you did exactly that. LOK is a beautiful story with a few missteps, thank you for being able to articulate my thoughts for me.

  • @funa8843
    @funa8843 Před 4 lety +1552

    the NEW team avatars "friendship" actually kinda speaks to me... it accurately resembles what its like to grow up and be pushed away from your friends by work and responsibility. but still knowing you can be close despite the time spent apart...

    • @foofung9961
      @foofung9961 Před 4 lety +77

      I didn't vibe with them due to their personalities tbh... To me they seemed like the weakest characters within the whole show but still took a good chunk of the screen time away from the well written character with depth

    • @halifaxverbeck7098
      @halifaxverbeck7098 Před 4 lety +24

      i liked it too, but they didn't have the development to support it.

    • @lunarsnowyzz4108
      @lunarsnowyzz4108 Před 3 lety +1

      What do u watch this on

    • @loveisanopendoor3532
      @loveisanopendoor3532 Před 3 lety +21

      They didn’t have a strong friendship since all of them were either cheating or going off with one another. It just messed up the whole thing because it was so unnecessary and stupid

    • @theweekndincludesthursdays8016
      @theweekndincludesthursdays8016 Před 3 lety +37

      H Hy This still is more realistic. Factoring that they were all problematic teenagers as well as factoring that unlike Aang and the previous team avatar, a more constrained and orderly world limited their time together and widened their avenues to mess up, was as real as it could get. I loved the old gang, but I always felt as though their bond was unattainable and painstaking seeing that the writers had enough liberty to hyper-focus on their relationship and have them cooped up in the sky all day on a bison. While fast-paced writing and constant activity made it more sloppy, the atmosphere of LoK presented a realer more modern bond.

  • @Magnus_Opus
    @Magnus_Opus Před 4 lety +192

    I remember I was so confused when the first season villain died, and I actually expected him to miraculously survive because I thought he wouldn't die for another 3 seasons

    • @shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032
      @shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032 Před 4 lety +10

      BLAME THE EVERYTHING ON NICKELODEON AND STOP PAYING FOR NICKELODEON AS WELL.

    • @hallowjupiter6305
      @hallowjupiter6305 Před 3 lety +1

      I mean it's pretty common in anime, and a lot of those are good. There's usually onc basic character goal but a lot of different stories being told to get there

    • @ekopermana7150
      @ekopermana7150 Před 3 lety +1

      Yep, i thought the show will explain how blood bending can sever chi paths, or how yakone and amon can do psychic bloodbending in the first place

    • @stuff5757
      @stuff5757 Před 3 lety

      Korra was supposed to be a mini-show with only one season. But when Nickleodeon saw the show's good ratings, it gave it more seasons.
      Also how the fuck did Nickleodeon allow a murder-suicide?

    • @alyy892
      @alyy892 Před 3 lety

      Shrek is the best franchise and it tops anything. Well technically they could’ve picked this theme up in the second season. It almost felt like the whole “benders against non benders” thing vanished after season one which was really stupid. There was so much potential!

  • @squareheadbaggins5043
    @squareheadbaggins5043 Před 3 lety +5

    I really enjoyed LOK. While parts felt rushed and not well planned, other scenes were beautiful and touching. You explained the series incredibly well. Thank you for shedding light on the show's discrepancies but also its heart, energy, and charm.

  • @beyondgoodandbad9207
    @beyondgoodandbad9207 Před 3 lety +5

    I only found this video now but I cried while watching it. LOK was under a lot of pressure development wise because of Nickelodeon constantly fucking them up with funding, plot writing and schedule. I think it's a really good show and the fact that they managed to keep it entirely original from the ATLA makes it amazing. It doesn't deserve the hate it receives. Thank you for this amazing review

  • @platypusbunneh327
    @platypusbunneh327 Před 4 lety +380

    12:24
    THANK YOU for mentioning the external factors. Nick really screwed over this show in more than one way. LOK could have been another masterpiece, if it were treated and handled correctly from the beginning.

    • @jinnyapolinario1856
      @jinnyapolinario1856 Před 3 lety +15

      ATLA was filled girl power, and also talk about sexism. ATLOK was their time to shine, nick has something to do with it. I personally think Aaron Ehaz writing could improve the LOK like the way he did with ATLA. I think it's something to do with Ehaz and Dimartino's disagreements, if they work they could give us Azula's redemption and other missing part of the story.

    • @bakothegreat6986
      @bakothegreat6986 Před 3 lety +4

      @BL no, we don't think that way probably because the Korra was bi and the boys don't like that and parents don't either

    • @Les____
      @Les____ Před 3 lety +4

      BL korra was lgbt and apparently “boys” and parents wouldn’t like it because of “religious beliefs”

    • @Les____
      @Les____ Před 3 lety

      BL i was clearing it up for you

    • @onebuffalo5402
      @onebuffalo5402 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Les____ Korra wasnt gay or bi until the last 4 episodes when the writers decided to make her so. Theres literally no legitimate hinting at her or asami being gay to that point, infact, at that point the 2 are arguably the straightest people on the show

  • @TheOneBadAssGamer
    @TheOneBadAssGamer Před 5 lety +1148

    when you said conflicted all i could think about was the Boulder
    so.........
    The boulder is conflicted about fighting a little girl.
    yes i typed that and said it in his voice. I had to get it out of my system.

  • @DJ-rd4pj
    @DJ-rd4pj Před 3 lety +22

    This is a great review! I find that too many people bash the show in an obnoxious way. And in the same respect, some people also deny its flaws. After reading a lot of comments, I truly believe something: you should form your own opinion. If you love TLOK, then love it and don’t let others take that away from you. And if you hate it, that’s fine, just don’t attack others. I personally love the show and want to say to those who don’t, try it and give it a chance without looking at it too critically, it's very underrated.

    • @hannazo19
      @hannazo19 Před 3 lety +4

      I personally even think, that if they would’ve gotten more time with LOK it would be at least as good as ATLA. I love Korra and somehow the conversation around it makes me sad af. I think the conflict between LOK lovers and haters has to do with the fact how harsh the haters treat it. It’s like they are so offended that they got more avatar content and because it wasn’t the exact same as the original, they just had to hate it. As a 20 year-old, I can appreciate Korra’s darker themes, for a few ATLA episodes felt too childlike and boring to me whereas that isn’t a problem for me in LOK. Ahh how I wish people had been more open to Korra when it first started. Maybe we’d now have a truly fine series where the characters and plots are given more time to become something the show’s creators propably wanted for it to be. We can hope for a Korra sequel mini-series or something now that the Avatar Studios are here. I’d love to see it

  • @oya7524
    @oya7524 Před 3 lety +15

    Thank you! It is nice to finally see a nuanced review of Korra. Most others I have seen are full on hate or love and I think LoK deserves a place in the middle. Also nice to see a little consideration for the writers and the constraints they worked under. They're human too after all.

  • @knylover9715
    @knylover9715 Před 4 lety +141

    When jinora revealed her tattoos my heart just fell when she looked like aang

  • @StarCastersUniverse
    @StarCastersUniverse Před 5 lety +343

    My reactions during this was
    “Oh”
    “Oh true”
    “Ahhh damn”
    “Yup”
    “Lol yeah”
    “Ah the beatles”
    I liked the idea of korra, i just didnt like how it was executed. It did look good! The fights, the animation was better, and the colour etc, but - it was for sure, the character development that felt like something was missing and bringing up the time limit made sense. And when it did end, i felt sad lol despite everyones objection, because it was over.

    • @sajanpatel4956
      @sajanpatel4956 Před 5 lety +4

      StarCaster I agree completely. It takes the third season for her to really struggle with somethings, being represented in the mercury still in her body.

  • @panellegro5055
    @panellegro5055 Před 3 lety +3

    This show reminds me of the phrase that sometimes, less is more. There's so much to explore, and they do explore them, but after watching LoK, I just can't seem to remember any of the emotional moments, or moments that were supposed to be powerful because of the lack of buildup. It felt like putting my finger in 20 different types of pie, and not even getting to taste them, just poke it and move on.
    All I remember is Korra being a chaotic character and most of the other characters' names I don't even remember. LoK never induced a feeling of "I want to watch this again" because at times, I don't even know what I'm watching. Everything is so everywhere and nowhere at the same time.
    I searched about what to like about LoK and I found this, and this honestly speaks volumes to me. It does give me the "I want to watch it" feels, but I still stand by that LoK had a message they wanted to convey, but there wasn't a clear story, which really dulled a lot of things. And honestly, I really do want to see them remake it, and build the show from scratch, and actually focus on the message that they want to convey, rather than make it cool-looking.
    But all in all, I really loved this video. It's such a cool new perspective to take and I'm glad I found it :D

  • @DarklordofDOOM57
    @DarklordofDOOM57 Před 3 lety +5

    Some things definitely felt rushed, the side characters aren’t as fleshed out and the romances were kinda lame... but a few scenes/stories were truly amazing. Zaheer, The Red Lotus, Earthbenders as fascists, Asami, Korra’s trauma after the poison, Avatar Wan, the Beifong family conflicts, the return of the airbenders, old Toph, the waterbender civil war, the Spirit world integrating, VARRICK! ... I could go on. It’s a truly ambitious show and I think just existing as it is, it’s worth of praise.

  • @TheInfiniteDraw
    @TheInfiniteDraw Před 5 lety +150

    The core difference between Korra and Aang is that Aang was wanted, needed and for the most part respected. But Korra was treated like dirt by nearly everyone. Aang never wanted to be the Avatar but he was supported and needed. Korra wanted to help the world but was constantly rebuffed and torn down. She didn’t let this stop her though. She persevered even after being nearly destroyed both physically and mentally.

  • @olgagarcia1506
    @olgagarcia1506 Před 5 lety +659

    I blame mostly nick for korra not being as good as ATLA, the didn’t give bryke enough writers, episodes and support compared to ATLA and they also removed korra from tv to get more traffic on their website, that’s shady af

    • @dimitrijemrdjanin4141
      @dimitrijemrdjanin4141 Před 5 lety +25

      Nah m8 it was just a shit show

    • @gregdesouza17
      @gregdesouza17 Před 5 lety +92

      They also gave only a season at a time, so the writers didn't know that they would have 4 seasons to develop stuff, and that really made an impact in the passing compared to the original series.

    • @akshatshah3717
      @akshatshah3717 Před 5 lety +50

      I'm kind of happy that Nickelodeon is failing so hard right now. They failed to support the good shows and promoted shit like those shows with ugly af animation

    • @olgagarcia1506
      @olgagarcia1506 Před 5 lety +47

      gregdesouza17 yeah they kept wrapping up the story every season finale but then nick suddenly gives them another season with at least 13 ep
      Hence why korra had 4 antagonist and it felt so rushed
      If they gave them more ep and promised them at least 2 seasons I think the show would’ve been WAY better
      Also more writers, I think the first half of season 1 only had 2 writers, bryke

    • @olgagarcia1506
      @olgagarcia1506 Před 5 lety +5

      jimbo the wise k “m8”
      Way to simplify things for yourself lol

  • @kobienglund7634
    @kobienglund7634 Před 3 lety +6

    Thank you for your explanation of the show, i really liked how you used both the negatives and positives to explain the value of the show. Personally, i loved Korra. I liked how the show didn't follow stereotypical "Hero's Journey" plotlines. For example, Korra and her friends beat the villain at the end of every season, but never in a way the audience would expect, especially in the 1st and 4th season. I also like how diverse Team Avatar is, especially when compared to The Last Airbender. For example, me and my siblings would try to match up the new Team Avatar with the old one. Pabu is Momo, Naga is Appa, Korra is Aang and so on. But we couldn't really do it. Mako, Bo Lin, Korra, Asami, and the animals are all different than the original Team, which i respect. The show has its hiccups such as lack of explanation to certain parts as you were saying, but i loved it overall. Personally, i didn't think it's strong and emotional moments were that weak, but that's just how i perceived them. Aang showing up at the end of season 1, Korra's breakdown about not being able to move in Season 4, and Hiroshi Sato dying all triggered an emotional response from myself. Bottom line, Korra is great for not being the stereotypical kids show. It has depth, and plenty of unexpected moments. Thank you for reading my rant.

  • @tyx8898
    @tyx8898 Před 3 lety +6

    It’s weird that you say that about her learning from her enemies instead of her friends cuz it fits to a single point in the show that I can point out. Katara told her to learn from her past in order to let it go, yet she failed to grasp the lesson, but later Zaheer in a way tells her the same exact thing only showing her instead, and she succeeded.

  • @MaxRovensky
    @MaxRovensky Před 5 lety +290

    7:20 okay, I actually had a theory about bloodbending taking powers. Remember how Ty Lee (and chi blockers in Korra) hit some pain points to disable bending temporarily?
    I believe Amon uses bloodbending to damage those spots in your body permanently to disable people’s bending forever.

    • @athena_the_goddesss6238
      @athena_the_goddesss6238 Před 5 lety +134

      I always figured that was how it worked. Because nothing magical happened. The moment of "taking away the bending" was always surprisingly quiet and anticlimactic. Very very different from how Aang took away Ozai's bending, which was a literal conflict between their spirits. So I theorize that Aang actually took away Ozai's bending whereas Amon, surrounded by his army of chi-blocking ninja people, simply severed their chi. This explanation also helps me understand why when Amon blocked Korra's main bending, her airbending turned on, as if Amon wasn't actually taking away bending ability, but messing around with chi. Like he kind flipped a switch in people where everyone else was on/off but Korra was whateverworks/whateverdoesn'twork.

    • @georgespiggott5615
      @georgespiggott5615 Před 5 lety +11

      i think it would be more interesting if he used healing abilities to do it. they can affect and manipulate another person's chi to help them, so why not to hurt?

    • @utkukaansoylu1273
      @utkukaansoylu1273 Před 5 lety +33

      That is reasonable but the show should have explained it.

    • @MN-wi1pr
      @MN-wi1pr Před 4 lety +2

      I think it's more of blocking it or disabling those spots rather to damaging because that would mean that Korra healed them, which is not what we saw when she restored their bending.

    • @athena_the_goddesss6238
      @athena_the_goddesss6238 Před 4 lety +9

      @@Krystian0199 k then why are you here

  • @Curlew
    @Curlew Před 5 lety +407

    I want "... sokka helps too" framed

  • @MugWitch
    @MugWitch Před 3 lety +1

    I respect the heck out of you and the grace in which you review this show and offer solutions. My feelings about Korra have always been messy and frustrated, but I know there were parts of it that I really loved in concept and some in execution. I really think you put it best as to why it both resonated and frustrated, and I sincerely thank you for that.

  • @frankiebrysonious9446
    @frankiebrysonious9446 Před 3 lety +1

    bruh you’re incredible- that last 7 minutes hit me. You worded everything so beautifully and it really made me appreciate the show more as a whole, and now i’m gonna subscribe cuz you’re amazing

  • @TheOnlyTony03
    @TheOnlyTony03 Před 3 lety +473

    Korra for me will never be ATLA but I don't want it to be. I really enjoy what it did to the world, loved the characters they introduced and had some pretty badass villains and fight scenes. It has many problems at the beginning but still plenty of heart

    • @blockers545466
      @blockers545466 Před 3 lety +26

      Agree, i wouldnt want TLOK to be like ATLA, they need to be differently good

    • @Shmolitz
      @Shmolitz Před 3 lety +3

      @@blockers545466 Wise comment.

    • @Levi-rc8kh
      @Levi-rc8kh Před 3 lety +9

      Thank you for your insight. I respect legit criticism, and the show does indeed have it's flaws, but in the end, it's a wonderful TV show and I could not ask for a better sequel to ATLA.

    • @masterDarts4188
      @masterDarts4188 Před 3 lety +1

      Honestly, It's not that it needs to be it. It's that it just doesn't match its level of quality. It's fine to like it, but it's just not as good.

  • @floatyredballoon
    @floatyredballoon Před 4 lety +391

    “A Beautiful Mess” is the BEST way to describe TLOK. Way late on this video, but bravo.

  • @GirlofCulture
    @GirlofCulture Před 3 lety +21

    It´s still a great series in my eyes. Took many risks and succeeded

  • @ekin9181
    @ekin9181 Před 3 lety +2

    I don't know how many times i said "yes, that's it!" unintentionally throughout the whole video. I love tlok, and I love it with its imperfections since nothing can be perfect and people's expectations differ from one to another significantly. Your way of telling what you think is wrong or why it is wrong makes so much sense and creates a peaceful atmosphere. Lots of "video essays" that claim tlok is garbage, talk about the mistakes in a brutal manner without even thinking "why?" thoroughly. Thank you for this video, I wish more people could be like you.

  • @AliixKatz
    @AliixKatz Před 3 lety +370

    Korra deals with a lot of real life problems I say it caters to a older crowd. I love the last air bender and I love korra it was different.

    • @kronkbonk2930
      @kronkbonk2930 Před 3 lety +36

      AliixKatz That’s also my point. Korra is for the older, more mature people. Korra should be different than ATLA because Korra is a different Avatar meaning it will tackle almost different problems. Korra handles more mature problems like anarchy and and PTSD, whereas ATLA only covers the colonialism of the Fire Nation. This is proven because many sources say LOK has a higher age rating than ATLA. LOK may never reach the heights of ATLA, but LOK is still an animated show better than most animated/cartoon shows currently in the world

    • @christinelavallee57
      @christinelavallee57 Před 3 lety +15

      When I first tried to watch LoK, I definitely couldn’t appreciate it because I was just as immature as Korra and had no patience for her. Now that I’m a little older, I’m willing to forgive, especially because I see her as a kid.

    • @heyyitsRJ
      @heyyitsRJ Před 3 lety +9

      xXPhantom KnightXx I think Korra would have done better if Nickelodeon had an adult themed time slot, like Cartoon Networks' Adult Swim. But now that it'll be on Netflix, hopefully more people will realize it's a good show

    • @kronkbonk2930
      @kronkbonk2930 Před 3 lety +1

      Raymond Cabrera I agree

    • @onebuffalo5402
      @onebuffalo5402 Před 3 lety +16

      Korra is like a cheap afterschool special... lmfao how is it for older people? ATLA is leaps and bounds more mature context wise then the love triangle twlight garbage we get all thru out korra.

  • @ggtiket
    @ggtiket Před 5 lety +570

    Jinora revealing her tattoos is also my favorite scene

    • @LINSENT
      @LINSENT Před 4 lety +31

      I cried like a baby I miss aang so much it hurts

    • @TheStraightestWhitest
      @TheStraightestWhitest Před 4 lety +5

      It made me cringe. The whiny brat was now supposedly at the same level Aang was at? Really? No, she wasn't. Kai was a more proficient bender, and he was just a little punk. She only got those thanks to consistently whining daddy's ears off, and it seriously irritated me to see the show being dumbed down to that.
      Used to be that a master was.. well, a master. Pakku, Tenzin, Aang, Iroh. The kind of benders that could level entire armies. What can Jinora do? Turn into a Force Ghost Ex-Machina?

    • @maxbibby7777
      @maxbibby7777 Před 4 lety +55

      Straight White Male she got them because of the leadership and help with taking down zaheer. She also has a lot of knowledge of the air nation. She knows the history. she is very spiritual and also very skilled at airbending. Obviously she’s not going to be as powerful as the avatar or a bunch of grown men. I honestly think she deserves the tattoos. Being a master is more than being able to take down an army. I do agree though, I think Jinora is pretty annoying

    • @TheStraightestWhitest
      @TheStraightestWhitest Před 4 lety +4

      @@maxbibby7777 You're not wrong in those skills of hers you mentioned, but mastery means MASTERY. It means having complete and utter expertise and knowledge of every single aspect to whatever you're a master of.
      For airbending, or any bending or martial art for that matter, that absolutely includes the actual bending part, in fact that is still its main purpose. Jinora has shown nothing with her actual bending. Remember when Tenzin took on 3/4'th of the entire Red Lotus, and was stalemating them? THAT is what a master is. Those tattoos indicate airbending mastery. Jinora isn't one. She may be a proficient spiritual guide, but that has fuck all to do with airbending. Yes they follow a more spiritual philosophy, but airbenders are no less physical benders than the other three nations. Iroh was more spiritual than any airbender (except for Jinora with her retconned bs), and he was Fire Nation.
      Base line is: No one deserves those tats without being an extremely competent bender. The old bearers of those tattoos were able to kill hundreds of Fire Nation elite during Sozin's Comet. I seriously doubt Jinora could even take on one of them.

    • @TheStraightestWhitest
      @TheStraightestWhitest Před 4 lety

      @@Shad0wolf0 Your mom did.

  • @zeldacool12
    @zeldacool12 Před 3 lety +256

    This is a MUCH better TLOK critique than the other incel “reviewers” on this website.

    • @shellersle128
      @shellersle128 Před 3 lety +34

      The Man vs PC Yeah... but that ER guy had some serious incel vibes.

    • @shellersle128
      @shellersle128 Před 3 lety +5

      @The Man vs PC BTW I didnt really like LoK and there are plenty of great critique videos just to be clear. I'm only talking about this specific one

    • @Merlincat007
      @Merlincat007 Před 3 lety +26

      So true lol. Definitely an imperfect show but absolutely does not deserve the vitriolic hate it gets. I really enjoyed it, except the season 2 finale.

    • @bruh-fw7op
      @bruh-fw7op Před 3 lety +2

      @@techzone1552 No, because those guys were literal incels

    • @bruh-fw7op
      @bruh-fw7op Před 3 lety +2

      @@techzone1552 No, i’m saying those specific reviewers were literally incels and exhibited said qualities

  • @michaelgee568
    @michaelgee568 Před 3 lety

    Beautiful commentary, and I love how you included the shows' music as background tracks, especially the very last piece from TLOK.

    • @kroy7881
      @kroy7881 Před 3 lety

      Do you know what that last piece is called?

  • @notakebaks
    @notakebaks Před 3 lety +1467

    I feel like Korra is like the millennials that grew up watching ATLA. We're rushed to find a place in the world. We have goals, but it's not enough when we meet them. We aren't seen as enough as our predecessors. Korra is the mental strife that we go through

    • @dangerbee34
      @dangerbee34 Před 3 lety +161

      That’s deep man. Growing up I hated LOK. I felt she was arrogant and rushed into things and always got her butt kicked before she defeated the enemy. Rewatching it now at 24 I realize her issues were more nuanced than Aangs. Where Aang had a central problem and clear objective goals, Korra dealt with a handful of problems including learning air bending, reviving the air nation, dealing with MULTIPLE political agendas, the spiritual world, and dealing with a image issue with the public and within herself. She had more stuff to overcome in her first year than Aang did. Korra’s story just seems more like it resonates with real life.

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth Před 3 lety +10

      Your narcissism will see you through, apparently. Just be wary of confusing self-reflection with self-awareness.
      They're very different processes, and narcissism can blind one from the other.
      Zoomers have the greatest potential among millenials, if they can beat this hazard. I feel shows like Avatar, with its displays of empathy, of reflection, growth through adversity... holds much of what is needed to do so. If Korra is truly the strife you go through, then we are in a good place, and thank you, for giving me a sign that this is so.

    • @legbiter1462
      @legbiter1462 Před 3 lety +19

      blazo king Same. Although I vaguely remember ATLA and Korra from when I was a kid I never really watched them. Now that they’re out on Netflix I regret it, but anyways I actually am really glad I gave Korra a shot. I can see why some people don’t like it (and certain things I agree with), but I think the more adult themes went a long way in making me enjoy it. Still teaches you a lot, just like ATLA. I really liked Korra being cocky and learning, reminds me of myself somewhat.

    • @spaghetti5914
      @spaghetti5914 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Krystalmyth narcissism stems from low confidence as well
      while it is true, gen z is the future, as long as some large societal change comes, bigger than all the previous ones combined, nothing will change
      I hope people started paying more attention to emotions and personal growth than throwing the blame on others without admitting anything and mostly praising the talented but apathetic ones as role models

    • @spaghetti5914
      @spaghetti5914 Před 3 lety +1

      @《 tsmnabila11 》 korra is not as fault for that, they should stick to blaming the movie

  • @rifqirizmanda7901
    @rifqirizmanda7901 Před 4 lety +429

    Underrated opinion : Season 3 is the best season of LOK hands down

    • @HimK22
      @HimK22 Před 4 lety +9

      Agreed

    • @RogerSA1k
      @RogerSA1k Před 4 lety +11

      *overrated*

    • @tharvn7295
      @tharvn7295 Před 4 lety +57

      I think In a vacuum season 3 LOK comes really close to ATLA book 3 and is better than season 1. Nothing can beat ATLAS book 2 though

    • @HimK22
      @HimK22 Před 4 lety

      Tharv N Yeah

    • @uwukotoa
      @uwukotoa Před 4 lety +13

      LoK book 2 was a whole kind of special

  • @Mik3l24
    @Mik3l24 Před 3 lety +15

    I've just watched the entirety of LoK, and despite the flaws of the Book 2, I feel like I enjoyed it even more than the first series... Though it just could be recency bias.

  • @ursomrano542
    @ursomrano542 Před 3 lety +7

    Honestly the reason why I kinda like Korras character arch over Aangs is because Aangs arch is about Aang learning to become the avatar while Korras arch is about an avatar learning to be human. But Zukos arch tops both of them with no competition.

    • @austinjohnsen4430
      @austinjohnsen4430 Před 3 lety

      Aang’s arc was more about him becoming the avatar without giving up the things that make him who he is. He’s kinda like captain America in that way.

  • @chasealbrecht7091
    @chasealbrecht7091 Před 4 lety +662

    Personally, I can see the "New" team avatar as friends. Just, a more grown up version. Not everyone has time to spend almost every moment with their friends because people have lives of their own outside of that friendship. This makes sense for the new group with the structure of the seasons being the way it is. There are small time jumps, and they all go on with their lives. But they clearly have a connection with each other

    • @sofiamaslova6456
      @sofiamaslova6456 Před 4 lety +95

      Exactly! Thank you for bringing this up. Adult friendships are at their core different from teen friendships. Aang's team avatar kind of had no choice but to spend so much time with each other. They had to stick together as they were travelling and Aang relied on them for his training. Korra wasn't reliant upon her friends the same way Aang was. The two avatars have completely different character arcs, and I think it made a lot of sense for Korra and the rest of her team to spend more time alone than Aang and his friends, especially considering the structure of the seasons and the time in between.

    • @mochachi5237
      @mochachi5237 Před 4 lety +33

      Sofia Maslova But it did make for less satisfying connections between LOK’s cast. At least not as good as they could have been by getting rid of the love triangle subplot and not trying to replace Sokka with Bolin.

    • @luanafernandesoliveira3291
      @luanafernandesoliveira3291 Před 4 lety +18

      That’s exactly how I felt too...and I think this is specially clear in the finale, when Mako tells Korra he’ll follow her into battle at any time-I think that line shows not only friendship and devotion, but also growth to both the characters and their relationship. The friendships in ATLA work because the characters are always together due to the overarching plot, so it’s more of an arch about learning to deal with all types of people and finding what you have in common to create meaningful connections-it’s a lesson that feels fit to the age of the characters (and the intended audience), all under 16. In LOK, on the other hand, the characters start at 17/18 and end the series in their early twenties, and the path their friendships go through feel more akin to what adult friendships are like-life may pull you all in different ways and you may disagree and fight and drift apart, but the friendship endures in the end.

    • @sanjanan7109
      @sanjanan7109 Před 4 lety +7

      @@sofiamaslova6456 but aang's friendship was more of a tween friendship while korra was a teen along with her friends (except the last season). also, korra... didn't really have an arc? she kinda stayed the same throughout the series imo. even the ptsd, its not really growth

    • @torrinbianchi5283
      @torrinbianchi5283 Před 4 lety +6

      Just not as good a friendship and connection imo, even with the adult friendship excuse it just didn’t work as well. And that’s why a lot of shows follow the stories of younger people because they have the chance to make those friends for life and spend more time with them when they are kids. Sure they had a connection but Korra was the only one I really cared about and that’s a problem.

  • @lucaleone4331
    @lucaleone4331 Před 4 lety +160

    Another praise I will say is DAMN does it have some amazing character designs. Like clearly TLAB is the favorite, and amazing, but the character designs (and places) stuck with me so much more in Korra. I mean Korra herself is so striking. Asami, Zahir, the Beifongs, and so many more. It really is a shame they didnt have the budget to do a full 20 episodes per season or something.
    Although I will say, Book 3 Fire, the fire nation places were beautiful and I missed some of that in Korra which had more modern designs.

    • @Sageboy13
      @Sageboy13 Před 3 lety +1

      YES THIS

    • @TheBoxingNinja
      @TheBoxingNinja Před 3 lety

      I just realized not a single episode in Korra is in the fire nation.
      That's sad, how do you go 4 seasons, 6-7 years, and not have the avatar at least visit the fire nation?

    • @Sageboy13
      @Sageboy13 Před 3 lety

      *Matthew Noneya* because 4 seasons was not planned it was originally only supposed to have one, then two, then 3 and 4

    • @TheBoxingNinja
      @TheBoxingNinja Před 3 lety

      @@Sageboy13 But the writers couldn't have had her there once?
      She could have been in the fire nation in "Korra alone" in season 4.
      She could have been there for protection from the bad guy in season 3.
      She could have went to the fire nation in person to meet with zuko or the new fire Lord to help with the war in season 4 or season 2.

    • @Sageboy13
      @Sageboy13 Před 3 lety +1

      *Matthew Noneya* ah so you mean just for episode, then yeah idk that would’ve been cool to see

  • @pressyournumber
    @pressyournumber Před 3 lety +40

    ok so here me out, the show would have just been better if Zaheer was the overall villain for the show.

    • @teaganwittmaack2914
      @teaganwittmaack2914 Před 3 lety +9

      zaheers great and all, but i feel like he lacked any motives at all. “i want freedom and anarchy....” but like why?? i do agree tho i think if he was the main villain and they gave him a proper origin and motive he could’ve been so much cooler. the other villains were shit, oman was so stupid like i want to eliminate benders even tho i’m a bender myself. kuvira was just boring and don’t even get me started on unalaq. fucking unalaq i couldn’t stand his character he was so bland like oh i’m a big bad guy that turns huge and red so now i’m scary. like the whole dark avatar shit was the worst aspect of the show.

    • @ameixa9432
      @ameixa9432 Před 2 lety +5

      i think it would be better if they just cut the water tribe guy and left Amon, Zaheer and Kuvira
      Like, the S2 plot would still be kinda there, with all the spirit shit, but without the spirit guy

    • @maite6800
      @maite6800 Před 2 lety

      @@ameixa9432 I would have rather have her uncle as a villain but without the spirit shit a lot because I dont like how they dealt with the spiritual word in TLOK

    • @ameixa9432
      @ameixa9432 Před 2 lety

      @@maite6800 SAME lmfao
      i really dislike the spiritual world a lot too in Korra so i was just trying to see the possibilities

  • @nox_pff6710
    @nox_pff6710 Před 3 lety +1

    I loved so much this review! I was a while looking for a video that actually talked about the show and not if Korra as a character liked you or not, and this is awesome!! Now that I know what things to expect and what things to not, I'll definitely give it a try!
    Thank you so much for this vid, you're amazing!

  • @jaysee243
    @jaysee243 Před 5 lety +822

    I think Korras Enemies were that interesting, because their Intentions weren't simply "evil" as the Firelords have been. Equality, Balance, Freedom and Order can all be good things, so in a way Korra not only struggles in finding her Place in the world, but also because her Enemies goals are not inherently bad. This is what made the correlations between Korra and the antagonists such an important part of the series. And it also transports a message that is pretty rare in these Kind of shows, that nothing really is good or evil, but the way how to achieve their goals can make people do bad things.

    • @oscarg1006
      @oscarg1006 Před 5 lety +40

      Jaysee nope. As I recall, at least one of the major enemies was a big proponent of essentially anarchism. And anyone with half a mind knows that those systems always fail and are objectively awful. They create power vacuums which breed great internal division until people get tired of it and wish for the old system back.
      Yup just checked, Zaheer and his “chaos is the natural order”. So dumb. Freedom without consequences isn’t actually freedom.

    • @sporeham1674
      @sporeham1674 Před 5 lety +75

      Maybe he was blinded by the concept of freedom? Maybe he had this freedom, and wanted others to have it? Possibly it sounded perfect to HIM. Just because in our world, we know that it doesn’t work, doesn’t mean that they do!

    • @KeiLex05
      @KeiLex05 Před 5 lety +3

      well anarchie is this point like communism on paper it looks great but in reality it shatters on the some of the basic human natures...

    • @steveoh8036
      @steveoh8036 Před 5 lety +30

      @@oscarg1006 but he has point tho "destroy the old to built a new one". He is tired of government corruptions so for him he want to purge them through anarchism. "the natural order is disorder" for me it make sense, since everything is constantly changing thats the natural order. Its not dumb.

    • @steveoh8036
      @steveoh8036 Před 5 lety +8

      Jaysee agree with you, korras battle aint just good vs evil, she is fighting ideologies between her enemies too which is good for me.

  • @InFiiLtRaTor
    @InFiiLtRaTor Před 4 lety +145

    This is a beautifully written and very elegantly articulated review. Very balanced, highlighting its shortcomings and appreciating its strengths. While I personally don't think The Legend of Korra comes anywhere close to the highs of Avatar, I still find myself appreciating so much of what it does well. If I could only change one thing about the show, it would be to have a smaller, more fleshed out cast with longer seasons so that we could spend more time getting to know the relationships between characters like Tenzin, Lin, Asami and co. I truly think Tenzin is the best character in the show, and yet I feel we didn't to spend anywhere near as much time as we should have with him. There is so much unexplored potential in his story that the show constantly teases without delving deeper.

    • @thunderbird7936
      @thunderbird7936 Před 3 lety +5

      Tenzin could have been really explored to the fullest. The huge responsibilities he carries , the sibling backlash he gets , building a whole culture back again and being the only one able to do it. A breakdown of sorts with him realising all this and then him finally being able to enter spirit world by meditation would be so darn good.

  • @jonahogden6772
    @jonahogden6772 Před 3 lety +1

    9:00 - 9:36 hit like a truck. My favorite line out of the video, I enjoyed the beginning of the last season (and the end of the third) because it touched on expectation which is always something I've struggled with in real life. Trying to amount to something bigger than yourself is the hardest (yet most rewarding) thing you can do and I felt like I was back to watching the real issues of ATLA because of how well they showed Korra's feelings.

  • @BakedFrodo96
    @BakedFrodo96 Před 3 lety +15

    Shoutout to Henry Rollins for being the voice of Zaheer 🤘🏴

  • @kellyd3859
    @kellyd3859 Před 4 lety +250

    Bruh, this made me cry… you spoke on this so beautifully. Did not stutter once and said nothing but facts. I want to send this to everyone who bashes korra. It’s an amazing show

    • @badd7407
      @badd7407 Před 3 lety +5

      Nah isn't and you are just egdy who thinks is deep but isn't

    • @kellyd3859
      @kellyd3859 Před 3 lety +11

      Umejr Zek bro, you might think it’s not bc that’s ur view but this is mine so you can’t tell me no 💀that’s kinda how opinions work. and i’m not “edgy” bc i think it’s deep. it’s just a very well done vid

    • @xxxfaze_cumshotxxx7946
      @xxxfaze_cumshotxxx7946 Před 3 lety +9

      I personally disliked a lot the aspects of Korra. One big thing that ruined the show for me was the character exploration (one of Raz's points), they completely threw away what made TLA special, I bet if they included the original writer Korra would've been as good, if not better than Avatar. It's such a huge turnoff to see a story like this suffer because of crappy corporate garbage instead of the actual story itself, it's what depressed me about Game of Thrones, it's really hard to watch a show that completely shattered its potential, what made me feel good about watching Avatar was the satisfaction of each and every issue in Aang's story is resolved. I felt like Korra was just not there to begin with. I still loved both shows, but I can't recommend Korra.

    • @trevor3013
      @trevor3013 Před 3 lety

      Nah

    • @maggyfrog
      @maggyfrog Před 3 lety

      it's not an amazing show. people who like the korra show forget what magic the original show held. it's not a shallow surface comparison. the original went to great lengths with eloquence while the korra show seemed like it was trying too hard to detach itself from the original when it should never have been that way because it's the same universe.

  • @indyvidual321
    @indyvidual321 Před 4 lety +97

    I always found the fight scenes and choreography in Korra were some of the coolest and most creative ever. Definitely a positive from the whole series.

    • @itsmj3103
      @itsmj3103 Před 3 lety +1

      Well, the whole 4 seasons were a buncha fighting with some plot in between. Shame...

  • @LB-wp2ep
    @LB-wp2ep Před 3 lety +1

    Dude! I love your Avatar video essays so much! Thank you for your work and creating an opportunity to dive deeper into the Avatar universe.

  • @tristano_227
    @tristano_227 Před rokem +1

    This is an amazing Retrospective/Review, I completely agree with your opinion on the weird plot holes. My guess on Lava Bending is that it is a mix of Fire and Earth Bending. Bolin (probably spelled that wrong) grew up with his brother Mako and knows how he Fire Bends, It would make sense for him to be able to recreate Fire Bending as Lava Bending. I look at this like a mirror to Lightning Bending, Iroh studied Water Benders in order to create Lightning. The idea of an Earth Bender studying a Fire Bender to create Lava Bending makes sense and the idea of combined Element Bending is awesome.

  • @pdsmithe1st
    @pdsmithe1st Před 5 lety +1854

    Zuko's hair had a better character arc than most of those in Legend of Korra

    • @shoumyabarua4345
      @shoumyabarua4345 Před 5 lety +190

      Well to be honest, Zuko probably had the best character arc in both the series. I

    • @l.madrid8815
      @l.madrid8815 Před 5 lety +10

      @@shoumyabarua4345 no, aang,toph, katara, and sokka did

    • @darthclone7
      @darthclone7 Před 5 lety +4

      fk .. its so true

    • @viirzars8434
      @viirzars8434 Před 5 lety +21

      Scar Korra is shit...... until season 3, it’s utter garbage...... it rushes things.

    • @JD-wv1yi
      @JD-wv1yi Před 5 lety +61

      Zuko's character arc demolishes the entirety of LOK tbh

  • @captainace8295
    @captainace8295 Před 4 lety +826

    Razbuten: legend of kora a beautiful mess
    Lily orchard: The legend of kora is garbage and here's why

    • @andrewroy9263
      @andrewroy9263 Před 4 lety +28

      Are you a youtube shill? Because that is the up next for me lmao.

    • @twinkiesmaster69
      @twinkiesmaster69 Před 4 lety +15

      @@andrewroy9263 shill?

    • @xord1946
      @xord1946 Před 4 lety +104

      "Opinions" can be wrong because a lot of people refer to "factually wrong statements" as "opinions".
      "I like cheese" is an opinion. "I like this movie" is an opinion. "This movie is good" is a statement that can be wrong or right. You could even say "this thing is garbage but I don't care I like it for other reasons"

    • @memoofjacoboarbenzjuanarev9724
      @memoofjacoboarbenzjuanarev9724 Před 4 lety +81

      I rewatched the first season and i gotta say i missed judged it is not the original it is a new story and once you get over that it is a decent show to watch.

    • @emreokyay2870
      @emreokyay2870 Před 4 lety +5

      well, it IS shit so what is your point

  • @ladyofawesome8572
    @ladyofawesome8572 Před 3 lety +5

    I think it really depends on which show you watched first...I grew up with Korra, so when I watched ATLA I was surprised at how slow-paced the beginning was, and how much more character-driven it was. So I prefer Korra. But I realize that ATLA has its merits.

  • @trashman3753
    @trashman3753 Před 3 lety +8

    this perfectly summarizes LoK. not like other vids saying "LoK iS tRaSh AnD aNy OnE wHo LiKeS iT iS dUmB'

  • @Lazypackmule
    @Lazypackmule Před 5 lety +333

    Korra, like every story it tried to tell, was a great idea that didn't get enough time to breathe, and by the end, didn't manage to stick the landing

    • @razbuten
      @razbuten  Před 5 lety +28

      Yes. Good concepts but subpar execution.

    • @Paul94096
      @Paul94096 Před 5 lety +17

      Zaheer and book 3 would like to disagree

    • @Some-person-dot-dot-dot
      @Some-person-dot-dot-dot Před 5 lety +6

      I liked book 1 too, but that's because Amon was so cool. He kinda reminded me of Slade from Teen Titans. And his voice actor (Steve Blum) is one of the most legendary voice actors in the industry.

    • @brandonw6139
      @brandonw6139 Před 5 lety +5

      I blame Nickelodeon for most of the shows short comings. If they knew ahead of time they would have 4 seasons than I bet the show would feel more focused

    • @kikiclarke-liechti6048
      @kikiclarke-liechti6048 Před 5 lety

      I agree with that tbh. I think some things it executed really, really well. Like Korra dealing with her mental and physical health in book 4 (even though I wish there was more depth to it.) and then there were other big flops... Like nearly entirety of the Kuvira story arc. Yikes.

  • @user-vp1px4cv5y
    @user-vp1px4cv5y Před 3 lety +277

    I can't imagine my childhood without ATLA and TLOK!
    These shows made me feel and think differently about the world and gave so much enjoyment then any other TV show!
    Love both so much!!

    • @trizz1350
      @trizz1350 Před 3 lety +12

      They affected me too dude

    • @liad3933
      @liad3933 Před 3 lety +8

      Me too! This shows ARE my childhood!!!

    • @spencer62321
      @spencer62321 Před 3 lety +2

      Same there no animated show that nick can make anymore to match these two shows

    • @astronomical3342
      @astronomical3342 Před 3 lety

      I honestly don’t really think they are that good but they are enjoyable

    • @brianalleyne242
      @brianalleyne242 Před 2 lety

      That’s how I feel too……But with Naruto

  • @sylvia9290
    @sylvia9290 Před 3 lety +11

    My biggest gripe with the show is that everyone is too powerful/OP, heroes and villains. Like they're all super saiyans

    • @terrakage4462
      @terrakage4462 Před 3 lety

      Hm? That isn’t necessarily true I don’t think.

    • @sasukesbussy7101
      @sasukesbussy7101 Před 3 lety +4

      I see people complain about the opposite. A lot of people hate how much Korra is beat up. But I feel like if they had her win every fight, she’d be labelled as a Mary Sue.

    • @mhawang8204
      @mhawang8204 Před 3 lety +2

      @@sasukesbussy7101 Some people still labels her a Marie Sue, even when she constantly loses battles. 🙄

    • @fixjustin2699
      @fixjustin2699 Před 3 lety +1

      @@yukijames1321 so you prefer to have this mastering 4 elements journey all over again? Aang was 12 and learnt every element in like less than a year? Korra was 16 in season 1, it made sense that she was able to bend 3 elements at that time.
      And this criticism about the love triangle, it wasnt necessary but imo it sort felt like a comic relief. Most recent reactors of LoK on youtube enjoyed the love triangle.