Intro to Mentalization & ANTHONY BATEMAN (Co-Creator of MBT)
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Anthony Bateman, one of the creators of Mentalization-Based Treatment (MBT) for personality disorders (BPD, NPD, etc) talks about his background and gives an intro to mentalization and how it develops in human beings.
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This is a serious channel. Very insighful for us the public.
Thanks for watching with us; it's good to hear you're finding something useful in the content! -P
Incredible! For me, the quality of the material that you are continuing to publish reflects the pursuit of a communication which still rises from personal stories, but without renouncing to a high level scientific approach. Very good 😉
Channel is a goldmine 🤩❤
Thank you to both interviewer and interviewee for a great interview! The questions were straight to the point and incisive. After listening to a few videos featuring Professor Anthony Bateman, I am impressed and assisted by his calm, patient, humble and intelligent explanations. As someone else commented, I could listen to Professor Bateman all day.
Mentalization is a complex subject to explain and/or fully understand, however, he does a wonderful job of patiently and thoroughly explaining it. Also, I agree that psychosocial methods of helping people with psychological difficulties are much more helpful than drugs or medication.
Anthony, I would love to hear some of the ways the evolution of "I Mode" can go wrong in those with BPD or NPD.
I personally find myself empathizing uncontrollably to the point where I lose myself or even project myself into the other person - seeing myself in others, often assigning traits to them that are actually my own while inadvertently absorbing portions of their personalities, or even affectations or physical posturing. I mentalize constantly, to the point where I feel like I'm cognitively processing things that would be completely automatic to other people. I remember back in primary school telling myself things like, "Wow, I was so socially inept last year, this year I will be better" and it continued that way until I WAS better, but at some significant cost of personal stability and a loss of real self-ownership. As I'm starting a new job soon, I'm trying to find ways to shore up my interpersonal boundaries so I don't attach too much to the new people that are about to enter my life... or whose lives I am about to enter? It's like jumping in a lake and not knowing whether I get wet or the lake gets Erich.. if I had to guess, the answer is both.
I have a deep, lingering suspicion that there is an underlying problem with the mechanism that differentiates between my own state from others. I can't tell if it's a "theory of mind" type problem or if I've just been second guessing my own behavior for so long that it might as well be a separate entity, and therefore in the same bin as everyone else's mind, with no special category for "I." It's as if I manage my emotional state indirectly via managing those around me, while holding back a scintillating resentment that others don't have to do the same thing. It's like my Ego went to lunch and never came back, leaving my anxious-preoccupied Superego to parent my ID into this angry people-pleasing thing. Needless to say, it's becoming a bit of a drag.
So I'd be very interested in hearing you elaborate more on the philosophy behind Mentalization Based Therapy, especially the normal and abnormal psychology associated with the formation of the "I Mode" of thinking. Even in this short interview, I'm already hearing things I've been preoccupied with over the years.
Look up hyper mentalization, it’s associated with (especially adolescents with) BPD
@@niharika14 Guess I'm a 30 year old adolescent then LMAO - thanks for the term to look up! Always looking for the next breadcrumb on this trail of self-discovery.
Brother Erich🌈🫂
I'm a mid-40's adolescent, your timeline is progressing wonderfully 😂
Thank you for sharing, "I" might have made many of the same comments you shared, instead I am experiencing some breadcrumb of tranquility and reassurance considering you and your seeking. Reading this I am reminded the energy I experience so frequently and intensely is not a completely singular and unrelatable experience for an other 🙏🏼🧘🏼♂️🫁
Savor those breadcrumbs Brother 🌈; the ones I have found (this channel 🙌🏼, your openness 💖✨) recently have had a powerful medicinal effect.
Inner peace, BodyMind intergration, and 🌎🌍🌏🕊️ for us all.
I see you, Erich🧘🏼♂️ best of luck 🙏🏼
Bateman is a real pioneer in this field
This man, Bateman,...seems rock solid with uncanny level of insight . Great & interesting. THANK YOU!
The focus circle spotlight filming is wild. I love it.
This channel is such a blessing!!! This is fascinating and so educational. Thank you!
You are wonderful Tiffany! -P
Bravo for all the work that goes into documenting the topic and these practitioners!
Thank you so much for your keeping up with your amazing content Rebbie! Your content is so interesting and helpful I get a genuine dopamine rush whenever a notification pops up. On a sidenote, I want to thank you for mentioning your possible diagnosis on the narcissism spectrum as well as bpd. I may be wrong but I believe this is the first time you mention this. It's incredibly brave and introspective, and goes miles to combat the stigma against a very misunderstood personality disorder. Thank you!!!!
Thank you, @hugoblondel7886. Very kind words and so appreciate the appreciation and that you are digging our content. 🙏. Glad to have you here.
Great to see discussion around MBT. Here is Australia the leading methods of treatment are DBT and Schema Therapy, both of which were not that helpful for me. I think they could have been more helpful if the programs were structured better but that's a problem with the health system here. But we have one clinic which does MBT and it looks like they do the program in a well structure, proper way. It is hard to find here in Australia but I hope it grows here. There is virtually no TFP here.
Yours is one of my favorite channels. Keep up the great content !!
Rebbie, do you know why MBT courses or groups are not available online, in the same way DBT is? It seems much harder to access this in the U.S. compared to DBT (which is already fairly difficult to access). Has that been discussed in any of these conversations? Is it that the U.S. mental health system doesn't recognize it's full potential yet? Is it a copyright issue with the creators? I've Googled like crazy trying to find an online course for MBT, but everything I find is aimed at clinicians. My understanding is that a MBT group is educational in nature - not therapeutic in the sense that the leader delves into the specifics of participants issues (I am referencing the Anna Freud Center's/UCL's MBT-Introduction manual, which says as much). It's surprising to me that there is no psychoeducational resource online for this. I am curious if this is a market gap waiting to be filled, or if there's something specific barring this potential. Do you have insight, or have you ever asked these clinicians about that?
Outstanding!! Thank you so much!
What an amazing mind this man has.
Wonderful interview. Great questions. Appreciate your vulnerability. I interview them today and just reviewing past ones.
Looking forward to this.
Great questions
I've been really interesting in trying MBT and this video was super helpful! I've tried so many kinds of therapy and have gotten really frustrated with not feeling any of them "clicked" with me.
What a beautiful interview.
Excellent video. Thankyou
thanks for your work! really appreciate it.
Great video and wonderful information, thank you both!
Subjective symbolic significance
I am interested in learning more about this but I found his way of explaining what this is was a bit convoluted. 🤫
If only the interviewer would stop interrupting. Anxiety level constantly at a 9
I love your channel but your videos are flooded with church ads. If one is interested in therapy it's because one has had enough of lies! Is there any way you can change this?
Patrick Bateman Senior 😱
Hardly... sheesh 🙄
The key lies in acknowledging the trauma that created you. Its not only in the past, its in the preent capture of this language and "systems" of treatment that are more of interest to the author. Over the last few years, Ive realized most people cant acknowledge this but, want a new definition and reason to keep the identity. More validation more non-acknowledging the base trauma thats ongoing. We only know how to propr up whatever identity we currently have. Only a few see the light and realize they are victcims. BPD diagnosis are dangerous and pathologizing the person vs the system that creates it at breakneck. Likje most diagnosis is this area, theyre dead wrong when you have only a few to choose from and a few people whos voices are elevated and supported. Perhaps in a few to 10 years ,most will be on to it but, then what are we without our given diagnosis. Possibly freeer.
Speaking to your comment on evolved and developed. The psychotherapy field thats allowed to flourish is wrong and the characters are treated like stars in an illusory hierarchy. There is a lot of narcissism in the field, maybe more than the people being treated, with that, a lot of projection. Much of this I got first hand.