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  • čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
  • In the New World: Forged in Aeternum - Economy Update (April 2024), the devs discuss various parts of the economy, the current overall state of the economy and future plans for changes.
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    00:00 - Changes from previous vids
    01:22 - Average gold per player
    01:45 - Tier 5 resource availability
    02:16 - How is economy?
    03:19 - Top 3 Economy Issues
    04:27 - Territory ownership economy
    05:46 - Aptitude Boxes
    06:21 - Chromatic Seals from other places
    06:44 - Was making gear easier to get bad for economy?
    09:13 - How much money has left economy from Seals?
    09:35 - Infinite consumables in OPR
    Sources: New World Database: nwdb.info/
    #NewWorld #Economy #reward
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Komentáře • 53

  • @DukeSloth
    @DukeSloth  Před 3 měsíci +3

    This was obviously meant to come out earlier but my hard drives decided that it's a good time to die on me so yeah I'm having fun.. If any of you know about fixing PCs and wanna help me out, here's a reddit post about my issues: www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/1cc3zve/multiple_hard_drives_ssdhdd_suddenly_failing/

    • @thezikaz
      @thezikaz Před 3 měsíci +1

      Maybe the fastest way would be reach out to a local technician or data recovery guy but you might end up paying for a service. Maybe you can get a quote first or maybe they can just point you in the right direction.

  • @YommiOfficial
    @YommiOfficial Před 3 měsíci +8

    I'm sorry but completely unacceptable to leave the biggest raid in the game as dead content for this long. Rewards should've been insanely rare and disgustingly overpowered from day 1. Anything they do now will be too little too late for me.

  • @philwaugh9095
    @philwaugh9095 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Even your hard drives have given up on New World 🤣

  • @Halloum_
    @Halloum_ Před 3 měsíci +4

    Umbral shards were actually way more healthy for the game than the current system. It gave you excitement every time you received a gear piece because that could be your BIS. Even crafting at lower GS wasn’t as issue because you could roll the perks you wanted on lower GS then just upgrade it to 700 later making crafting a lot more lucrative and necessary. Getting rid of the shards and replacing them with chromatic seals and matrix’s, and flooding the world with names gear sets to make up for the lack of options for non crafting players killed the games economy

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx Před 3 měsíci +2

      Disagree. Previous gear system was a mess

    • @Halloum_
      @Halloum_ Před 3 měsíci

      @@Z-MACx Just because you found it confusing, doesn’t mean the rest of us have the same learning difficulties. It was clear as day and it worked well.

    • @rumwhiskeyteq8227
      @rumwhiskeyteq8227 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Halloum_ Agreed. Now we have resellers market.

  • @dumflex5895
    @dumflex5895 Před 3 měsíci +1

    your tone of voice matches the general tone of the game right now. i keep waiting on a miracle that they are working on something big thats going to be released but I think im wasting my time still one toe in the pool so to speak.

  • @JChalant
    @JChalant Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for your insight, always nice to get another point of view!

    • @strangefruitlovex
      @strangefruitlovex Před 2 měsíci

      lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

  • @GhostManOnSixtieth
    @GhostManOnSixtieth Před 3 měsíci +3

    Nothing is worth doing in NW until the S5 Movement changes are fixed or removed. Most inputs and keypresses are delayed or unresponsive, attacks and movements rubber-bandy and projectiles don’t go where reticle is 1/2 the time after S5 updates. This should be THE ONLY priority right now.
    The mechanics pre-s5 were best in the genre. Every “upgrade” to this game feels like a literal downgrade.
    3500hrs, I uninstalled until fixed.

    • @sittinguphigh
      @sittinguphigh Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yup. Only thing holding this game down is the combat, and now even that is fucked. I swear my character will just glide randomly instead when I’m moving and trying to use an ability or weapon swap.

    • @GhostManOnSixtieth
      @GhostManOnSixtieth Před 3 měsíci

      @@sittinguphigh Yeah, they took the one thing that kept me addicted and made it unbearable. Most of my 3500hrs were PvP focused and I used to feel like I could outplay people through skill, now every keypress feels like rng.

  • @7829mk
    @7829mk Před 3 měsíci

    The amount of Dark Matter from OPR tracks has been reduced DRAMATICALLY. Chromatic seals are available after a day. Chromatic seals coming from other sources does not exist though was promised. I have an over abundance of named items, artifact items and perk selection errors that lie waiting in my inventory and unused. THIS IS A SHAME. Why bother in earning artifacts and named items when they can not be upgraded and made useful? Just stoopid game management and you wondered why players are leaving? AGS has no clue. Stop the data retrieval! That is not working, developers need to play the game!! If this was a weather news station, I would tell everyone to look at the window to forecast the weather!!

  • @Pr0sAndCon5
    @Pr0sAndCon5 Před 3 měsíci

    Conditioning and Gems DO stack up to the ABS cap of 50%

    • @DukeSloth
      @DukeSloth  Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah but gems overcap and conditioning doesn't. Afaik most serious expedition grinders still run full gems (unless this is out of date), which would mean conditioning doesn't really have a purpose for that

  • @sirfrydryk360
    @sirfrydryk360 Před 2 měsíci

    LOL, never had more than 10k gold at any one week since the game launched.

  • @ddyang9172
    @ddyang9172 Před 3 měsíci +1

    A little too late ags a little to late 7k player base already I've seen two warring companies leave the game as a whole it's pretty much a doomed player base at this point

  • @opeteh
    @opeteh Před 3 měsíci

    You stole my outfit!

  • @charliekongo9896
    @charliekongo9896 Před 3 měsíci

    DUKE ! You need to check out dustywhy live twitch stream yesterday April 25 at the 3h46 mark ! Unreal engine 5 , june 7 ... thoughts ! Please and thank you sir !❤

  • @larkwyll7351
    @larkwyll7351 Před 2 měsíci

    Interesting comment from the dev's regarding not wanting players to have to grind more than 100 hours for Artifacts and introducing a pity ticker for PVE content. Then immediately turn around and screw over pvp players, and all players in general, with the PVP track appearance rate of artifacts in Season 5.
    It is very difficult to buy that PVP content such as OPR is a small fraction of the play rate of pve content in New World when the dev's make design choices like this. Common sense would lead us to believe that pvp content (Mainly OPR) is by far the most played content the game has, and the dev's are wishing to extend the life of that content by making it significantly grindier to help boost player retention in the Artifact chase.
    If PVP content was truly a minority of player activity in the game it makes no logical sense to make the changes they did in Season 5 that basically made artifacts not appear until track 200 with any reliability.

  • @strangefruitlovex
    @strangefruitlovex Před 2 měsíci +1

    Tha lag lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • @manzariat7523
    @manzariat7523 Před 3 měsíci

    S3 destroyed crafting.

  • @RandomGaming85
    @RandomGaming85 Před 3 měsíci +4

    4:05 A lot of gold sellers are farming expeditions. Normal players are not doing this. I don't think AGS understands that difference. I'm done with the game until the next level cap increase. Nothing to do. Same content on repeat.

    • @willw8011
      @willw8011 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Gold sellers were farming gems form Mythril and just dumping the Mythril for whatever they could get. The gems and the gemstone dust are where the coin is made.
      Funny, I bought 4 sets of the 700 GS mining gear form 2 of the bot farmers, before they quit server. I only paid 4k per set. I spend a few days farming like crazy, but I only got 3 mining patterns. These guys were farming like bots or were bots to get so many patterns so quickly. I also bought a Harvester set too, but I know that guy is not a bot, just a wirefiber farming sperg. This game has so many spergs farming that it is almost just a farming game for spergs. Good luck competing with the sperg farmers and bots for the little bit of nodes
      Devs ruined the game with the fake DLC theft. Lots of player pre-DLC never rebought the "end game" content, so they are gone and probably not going to comeback any time soon. A newer core of players needed to be built up, but they will not stay for a game with bugs everywhere and canceled events. Also the devs announced something big going to happen in Summer... OK, great why play the game, until the unknown rug pull in summer happens. Devs might as well just say what will happen this summer, instead of letting players think the worst: plug pulled or rug pulled soon.

    • @arkdesign9517
      @arkdesign9517 Před 3 měsíci

      It's baffling how many people are still oblivious to how easy it is to dupe in new world ...
      The majority of coin selling services for new world aren't using Indonesian farmers, they're just duping.

    • @willw8011
      @willw8011 Před 3 měsíci

      @@arkdesign9517 They are using farm bots. It is easy to see these farm bots gathering ore and fiber. Sometimes, the bots have broken tools, but still run around trying to farm nodes. Other times the bots go around trying to farm nodes that are gone, but it is on the bots' program to go to these nodes. When the market collapses, like it is now, then sometimes players can get Iron ore for 0.01 and other raw mats for almost nothing, because that is the high price at the time. Only a bot would sell that low and still continue to gather raw mats.

    • @ab3240
      @ab3240 Před 3 měsíci

      @@arkdesign9517 Why do you say that? What items do you think they're duping?

    • @arkdesign9517
      @arkdesign9517 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ab3240 gold, but you can dupe any item

  • @willw8011
    @willw8011 Před 3 měsíci

    Devs know nothing about the game.
    Mytheril is cheap, because lots of pristine gems are needed and the farmers (or bots) treat Mytheril like the secondary material gathered, when getting the Gems. Also funny that the devs lie about the storage being capped due to player file limitations. Nope, I bought tens of thousands of mytheril at 0.02, just before the bot farmers gave up on the game. The storage shed had 40k+ weight and it was not the only one. The bot farmers were also selling green wood for 0.01, so I bought a ton of that too. I ws even able to buy 10,000 water motes for 0.01 each, before the price went up... I should have put in a buy order for 40,000... but who cares, because the game is crap and never going to get better.
    Most player use the Kin, because it is ridiculous to grind weaponsmith and engineering skills to 250, because there are almost no high end scraps to use for research and the xp and mats required are ridiculous. Also, there seems to be a shortage of Gypsum Orbs for for crafters to craft matrix, but other players seem to just not care about those and stack hoping for the day they can craft. Having BOP inductors is pointless, because a few players sell the inductor/ craft.
    I don't even play, because every time I come back the devs manage to piss me off within the first few hours of "play". Funny how everyone seems to be sperg speed running Gen for coin... so of course the devs want to nerf it. Devs should just nerf the whole game the way they did with the rabbit event, because everything is FUBAR, including the bugged Springtime event. Players comeback... see the Devs still have the ZFG about everything, including quality, so the players leave. Just pull the plug on the whole game... it was trash from day 1 and it will not get any better with the current Devs.

  • @Jordan9000VR
    @Jordan9000VR Před 3 měsíci

    How come he doesn’t make smite videos anymore? I haven’t seen anything from him in years and just going through my subs right now.

  • @kaliljanan
    @kaliljanan Před 3 měsíci

    if there is no war, there is no upkeep, guilds talk to eachother

  • @realname2787
    @realname2787 Před 3 měsíci

    anyone know a legit way to buy gold? I have given up on the game and want to at least buy good sets and go out in a blaze of glory for my time wasted. One website asked for a picture ID and social security card and thought that was strange. I am 100 serious and not trolling

    • @arkdesign9517
      @arkdesign9517 Před 3 měsíci

      Don't waste your money buying anything.

  • @CascadenTV
    @CascadenTV Před 3 měsíci

    Took them long enough.

  • @slothminion4620
    @slothminion4620 Před 3 měsíci

    goober

  • @thezikaz
    @thezikaz Před 3 měsíci

    I can't believe the best way to make gold is the most boring way to make gold and now they want to nerf it xD typical brainrot

    • @thezikaz
      @thezikaz Před 3 měsíci

      Fix OPR(see 3 years of community feedback) and make it a decent baseline gold farm.

  • @lllDolph
    @lllDolph Před 3 měsíci

    It MIGHT be worth it soon to quit this shit game.

  • @ggoddkkiller1342
    @ggoddkkiller1342 Před 3 měsíci +1

    They still don't know why the economy collapsed? Just LMAO! They are clueless as always, before the expansion i was saying the economy was going to collapse in their discord server, in fact i was the one who advised them to add cd to seals. Simply because otherwise the economy was going to collapse even faster and in worse scale. It is about a combination of different affects:
    1- Farming BIS gear is way too easy now, there are BIS and even illegal drops everywhere that you can get within few hours. You can upgrade an item that you farmed in literally ten minutes to BIS with ridiculously low 15k cost.
    2- Inductor crafting became more expensive but it is still too cheap which reduces overall demand for crafting as it doesn't make sense risking and wasting materials. Those not wasted materials reduces demand on farming and reduces mat prices which makes inductor crafting cheaper and further reduces demand on crafting. So inductor crafting alone is a major factor hurting the economy in a loop of price reduction.
    3- Resillient/ward-health change eliminated the need of multiple gears and a single BIS gear is good for literally everything anymore. Before that people needed multiple decent gears even if not BIS which was keeping demand high on crafting.
    So these three changes combined destroyed the economy and it was coming without any question, my name is same on discord you can find me saying the economy will collapse before the expansion on their discord. How they can fix it is also very simple, first making seal upgrade more expensive such as making third perk random with same chances as crafting. If a perk is chosen it can require x3-5 charms instead of one, if they do this they can remove its cd as well.
    Making inductor crafting more expensive with increasing mat or charm requirements, it can require x3-5 etc charms same as seals. Bring back 695-700 crafting with only timeless shards and add new defensive perks to increase variety while nerfing health if necessary. Resi-health change didn't bring any variety at all, in fact it severely reduced instead. Charms will become expensive for sure but there is no way they can balance it otherwise expect multiplying gold cost of seals and inductors which are quite bad gold sinks already. And charms becoming expensive isn't necessarly a bad thing neither, just add more low chance drops so it would become a nice gold maker for those who play...

    • @willw8011
      @willw8011 Před 3 měsíci +1

      DLC ruined the game, because it forced lots of players out, who did not want to rebuy the stolen end game content. The craft system sucks, because it takes too much time and mats to grind levels to 250 skill. The higher end mats are too expensive, except for Mytheril due to the bots and the spergs farming it for gems.
      Pre-fake DLC most players were just 2 perk BiS crafting, because it would take way too much time for roll a Bis. Been there and done that, but would never do that again.
      Finding a named drop and using 3 seals + a matrix is more expensive than trying to craft a 2 perk with matrix, but players do it, in order to avoid the crafting skills grind. Pre-DLC most players were trying to find a "good enough" named drop and upgrade it with umbral shards, because crafting has always been FUBAR in the game.
      As far as everything else: the game was always lacking in end game content, because the devs think end game is a never ending grind for mats. Most players do not want to spend 6+ hours a day looking for mats... while also having very little storage place to keep the mats. Gathering a few thousand ore or whatever wood and needing to process it up to still have storage space is pointless. The players that did not grind mats were the war loggers, cheat, etc grinding lots of coin to buy mats.
      The devs cannot even get the events correct. Every time the event is bugged and players wonder if the devs will fix it. BTW, devs nerfing loot in the winter event also pissed lots of players off and that was the final straw for most.

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Před 3 měsíci

      @@willw8011 I can easily say you aren't a crafter mate, you are just filling the gaps with false information. Like "matrix crafting is cheaper than seal upgrade" which is entirely false. Matrix crafting costs 7-10k for each item and the highest chance perk is 20% which means you need 35-50k to craft a BIS item, assuming the perk you want is highest chance one. If not then it can even take over 100k easily while upgrade cost is only 20k. This calculation doesn't even add the cost of leveling crafting to 250 which adds a lot. So crafting is entirely broken right now expect inductor crafting alone and 3-5 items you can not get from item upgrades or drops.
      Making gold was never hard in this game, even years ago i was crafting iron/steel tools and selling them many times higher than their cost in starter regions while market was seperated back then. While BIS items were expensive i was always checking the market for people who had no idea their items were BIS. Often i could find items many times cheaper than their actual value and buying them like for 20-30k then reselling them for 100-150k. I was also following fluctuation in prices and buying them when they are cheap then reselling them, gem market was quite good about this for a long time.
      My total earnings are way over 30 million without a company, exploit nor anything sketchy expect some market manupilation sometimes lol. And there were a lot of people like me, we were even often clashing on market to sell. I was also hardcore crafter but was doing it more of hobby than earning gold. There were times i could craft a BIS at first try but often i would waste 200-300k easily and end up with only trash. Even today with seal/matrix it is still possible to waste all of it, i've seen crafting 10 items and all of them were trash. The only time i could make serious gold from crafting was early expansion as everybody needed 700 gear everything was selling even trash ones so i was just mass producing them without caring BIS a lot. This is why inductor crafting hurts the economy so much as well as it makes risking pointless so nobody uses mats as much as before which further hurts farming. So it is not bots which reduces mythril prices rather people don't use mythril a lot. It is all a balance between demand and supply, if there is no demand that item would loose value.

    • @skiesthelimit80
      @skiesthelimit80 Před 3 měsíci

      I do think 15k is pretty damn expensive to be fair. Work 80-90 hrs so time is limited and after farming for that 2 perker BIS named item, just don’t have the funds to upgrade that item with 3 seals. That’s 150,000 if you do it for a full loadout. Just wish gold would influx from naturally playing the game and not grinding a reg expedition hundreds of times. Makes the content boring, stale, and unenjoyable.

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Před 3 měsíci

      @@skiesthelimit80 You can farm 15k in 2 hours mate and lets say farming 2 perker took a hour as well. Then you get absolute end game BIS in 3 hours, in which MMO you can get such BIS in 3 hours? Pretty much all of them require you to do raids for dozens of hours to reach such BIS items and even then those drops are often shared between entire raid groups! I understand you might not have enough time which is one of main points not playing MMOs but if they make it easier BIS gear will literally rain from sky mate. You should buy gold instead, for few dollars you can buy a lot of gold and spend it as you wish. I've never understood why people are against gold selling as long as it is legit earnings like mine i see no problem at all. I'm a merchant who don't do serious PVP so i'm giving you my share for you to do serious PVP..

    • @skiesthelimit80
      @skiesthelimit80 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ggoddkkiller1342 hell buying gold or just make gold purchasable in game, would totally be down for it.

  • @gamezonereactions8388
    @gamezonereactions8388 Před 3 měsíci

    🤖 NW average player count hit 7K and 80% is bots, like your comment section. 🤖