Worst MMO Ever? - Villagers and Heroes

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    $90 for 1 dragon mount model, palette swapped 4 times.
    if there were a competition for 'worst most average mmo', V&H wouldn't win because that would make it too memorable.
    This was the most 'meh' 8 hours of my life.
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  • @BiggestGal
    @BiggestGal Před 2 lety +4401

    Villagers and Heroes is one of the games ever made.

    • @Marmotone
      @Marmotone Před 2 lety +201

      r/technicallythetruth

    • @konflicted1729
      @konflicted1729 Před 2 lety +138

      Hmmm yes floor is made of floor

    • @TeamMBaku
      @TeamMBaku Před 2 lety +102

      I once saw one of the movies ever made.

    • @il9375
      @il9375 Před 2 lety +87

      this is one of the comments ever made

    • @-mysto-
      @-mysto- Před 2 lety +24

      The water is wet

  • @mishalesauer5074
    @mishalesauer5074 Před 2 lety +3248

    You know your MMO is bad when Josh says hi in the game chat and the immediate response to that is "Are your filming for Worst MMO Ever?" lmao

    • @ChaoticNeutralMatt
      @ChaoticNeutralMatt Před rokem +53

      Very nice touch

    • @SpydersByte
      @SpydersByte Před rokem +126

      @@WFly101 "amazing gameplay". Bruh. Do yourself a favor and play an actual MMO, Black Desert would blow your fucking mind if you think this game has "amazing gameplay". There are so many good MMOs out there today, and plenty of free ones, there's no reason to be scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel on Steam.
      edit: 31:58 Josh says basically exactly what Im saying to you, "Why? Out of all the MMORPGs both free and paid you decided on this one? Why have you decided the most mediocre experience in mediocre-land deserves your time?". Perfect. lol.

    • @NotoriousLightning
      @NotoriousLightning Před rokem +10

      @@SpydersByte This is great game for heavy handed gentleman.

    • @tvbuu
      @tvbuu Před rokem +8

      @@SpydersByte hell if you want a good mmo go play warhammer online RoR

    • @thisisrex1676
      @thisisrex1676 Před rokem +32

      @@WFly101 Man you gotta play better mobile games.

  • @kenny42069
    @kenny42069 Před 2 lety +1909

    I have to imagine if you play one of these less popular MMOs, seeing a toon named Josh Strife Hayes running around is like an omen of death

    • @Direwoof
      @Direwoof Před 2 lety +209

      Well I think if you play an MMO with 19 active players, you probably already know XD

    • @brandonsutton7474
      @brandonsutton7474 Před rokem +73

      I feel it might actually swell in numbers on some of them from Josh's audience trying some of which he reports on themselves.

    • @SpydersByte
      @SpydersByte Před rokem +42

      @@Direwoof you'd be surprised. I just found a comment saying this game has "amazing gameplay" and he was 100% serious. lol.

    • @baldgagits2107
      @baldgagits2107 Před rokem +65

      Kinda like eating in a restaurant then Gordon Ramsey comes in with a camera crew

    • @tvbuu
      @tvbuu Před rokem +7

      @@SpydersByte apparently there's way more players on mobile

  • @dialaskisel5929
    @dialaskisel5929 Před 2 lety +310

    "Whoever put a bounty on a sheep: You can sleep safely, once again."
    How could they possibly get to sleep without any sheep left to count?

    • @sorrenblitz805
      @sorrenblitz805 Před 11 měsíci +24

      That's how he counts them.
      *Message* : Contract Complete
      Customer: "Ahhhh one less."

    • @d_camara
      @d_camara Před 6 měsíci +9

      I can only sleep once there's none left to count

  • @PenguinDT
    @PenguinDT Před 2 lety +2078

    Kevin MacLeod is often referred to as 'the guy who composed the soundtrack for the Internet'. For the longest time, his stock music was the de-facto standard for multimedia stuff, including CZcams and Newgrounds. These days he has competition, but there's still about 50/50 change that the CZcams video you click next has his music in it.

    • @Fe7Ace
      @Fe7Ace Před 2 lety +312

      He's a selfless legend, made so much music of many type with no copyrights on them at all. I don't think it's easy to search for copyright free music without finding music of his.

    • @fallsilently8666
      @fallsilently8666 Před 2 lety +64

      Any Magic: the Gathering players experiencing a sudden urge to play the booster box game when they heard that?

    • @panko2848
      @panko2848 Před 2 lety +21

      @@fallsilently8666 Yep The Professor came to mind as soon as i heard it haha

    • @crysosisback7115
      @crysosisback7115 Před 2 lety +110

      McCleod, the dude's a legend
      Without even him knowing about it, he helped such a huge amount of people to produce content on CZcams, and even more than that to be fair

    • @MrAnarchyleecher
      @MrAnarchyleecher Před 2 lety +13

      Sir you have taught me a thing today

  • @leica6502
    @leica6502 Před 2 lety +1620

    "We made a bot play 42 MMORPGs and forced it to code one itself and this is what happened"

    • @Ashelybee
      @Ashelybee Před 2 lety +146

      If. That really happens it would be 95% almost naked girls and 5% recycled monsters with different colors

    • @chriwehl7173
      @chriwehl7173 Před 2 lety +68

      @@Ashelybee Also, somehow the AI has found a way to delete itself after it was done. Noone should be forced to do this

    • @barelyasurvivor1257
      @barelyasurvivor1257 Před 2 lety +15

      @@Ashelybee
      Oh, and lots of naked monsters with human Boobs, and other parts.

    • @chriwehl7173
      @chriwehl7173 Před 2 lety +48

      @@barelyasurvivor1257 Very small, child like, adult female specimens of ancient age that are all long mature, even for their species. And then the odd one that isnt.

    • @barelyasurvivor1257
      @barelyasurvivor1257 Před 2 lety +12

      @@chriwehl7173
      Ah I forgot that
      Have a virtual cookie

  • @andrewtennant1889
    @andrewtennant1889 Před 2 lety +137

    22:27
    JSH: "If this game were a spice, it would be..."
    Me: "Sporty"
    JSH: "...flour"
    Me: "That works too"

  • @erickernodle7636
    @erickernodle7636 Před rokem +365

    Gotta say, as the first MMO created by an AI that was fed 600 hours of WoW Classic it’s kinda impressive

    • @Reac2
      @Reac2 Před rokem +29

      And Shrek, the setting and humour is literally just Shrek

    • @jotarokujo3603
      @jotarokujo3603 Před rokem +9

      600 hours of WoW really doesn't seem like enough to inform an AI.

    • @apollovoid8733
      @apollovoid8733 Před rokem +25

      @@jotarokujo3603 That's the point

  • @nickfarace9339
    @nickfarace9339 Před 2 lety +1489

    I could actually feel the pain in this one.
    Josh has met his true match. An MMO not bad enough to talk about how bad it is, but not good enough to talk about how good it is. It just is.
    How can you report on that which has nothing to report on?

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex Před 2 lety +29

      this would be the second time that happened then.

    • @dan_goul
      @dan_goul Před 2 lety +59

      How do you kill that which has no life?

    • @creativedesignation7880
      @creativedesignation7880 Před 2 lety +73

      Fine with me. I could listen to him review bottled water and still be entertained.

    • @BobMcBobJr
      @BobMcBobJr Před 2 lety +39

      This game doesn't deserve a "half-price microwave meal/10." It is too descriptive. This game is a 5/10. Not 5.1. Not 4.99. Exactly 5.

    • @alloounou6900
      @alloounou6900 Před 2 lety +6

      Zero Punctuation has their best, worst, and blandest list. So that could be a good source for an idea of how to go about it.

  • @nhoyo4979
    @nhoyo4979 Před 2 lety +1486

    you know for the 100th episode it would be fun if you rated all the mmos youve done on this series from best to the worse. Good video keep up the good work.

    • @atiredfloridian777
      @atiredfloridian777 Před 2 lety +86

      I hate how I can believe there's 56 more bad MMOs to play.

    • @IamaPERSON
      @IamaPERSON Před 2 lety +6

      Does that include games like Warframe, which technically isn't an mmo?

    • @APsychicMonkey
      @APsychicMonkey Před 2 lety +36

      Bold of you to assume he'll be able to remember playing half of these boring trash heaps.

    • @IamaPERSON
      @IamaPERSON Před 2 lety +7

      @@number1fen True, he could cover those. Although I wonder why so many MMO's have online in the name.

    • @nustde00
      @nustde00 Před 2 lety

      @@number1fen dude you named all the ones i want tro see.

  • @TheMuddbudd
    @TheMuddbudd Před 2 lety +111

    I love how the mounts and pets were so obviously reskins that the animation is unbroken as you flip through.

  • @linksbetweendrinks7032
    @linksbetweendrinks7032 Před rokem +33

    "As an actor, I can confirm this happens. If you damage a performer's ego even slightly, they will blow up."
    That checks out.

  • @Irrelevant94
    @Irrelevant94 Před 2 lety +953

    Why does a game like this have voice acting this good though? Its like all their budget went into the voice actors and they had nothing left for the rest.

    • @PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi
      @PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi Před 2 lety +55

      Why does a game like this even exist, it looks like wow. Literally. Like WoW a year before release.

    • @smward87
      @smward87 Před 2 lety +109

      They probably did. Voice acting is the single most expensive aspect of games these days. It's why SWTOR still holds the record for most expensive game ever produced at a whopping 500 million. Easily half of that went to the voice acting, as it also holds the record for most voiced lines in a game.

    • @PeterDanielBerg
      @PeterDanielBerg Před 2 lety +46

      @@smward87 it's for precisely this reason that i follow advances in voice AI so closely. i can't wait until voice AI is so competent in real time that you can realistically interrupt an enemy's line of dialog by shooting them in the throat

    • @AunCollective
      @AunCollective Před 2 lety +16

      If you shift focus and compare it to what was offered on mobile at the time of release, it's actually quite impressive. Still a boring as fuck MMORPG in my opinion, but impressive by comparison.
      It's definitely a game that feels like playing an even more humorless AdventureQuest 3D. It's a shame that the voice acting wasn't put toward a better game with a better world and story.

    • @DarkScreamGames
      @DarkScreamGames Před 2 lety +16

      @@smward87 See this is a funny artifact of hollywood and actors guilds. Of course those folks should be paid well, but when you're talking $500 million, How do you not think "Y'know what I'll just have a Dev record the lines instead"

  • @kynaras
    @kynaras Před 2 lety +547

    A lot of truth in this review. One fact I don't think you covered is the game's history. More specifically, that this game isn't a mobile port. It actually started out as a Facebook game called "A Mystical Land" and over the years the developers began fleshing it out to turn it into a full-fledged MMO. The mobile version actually came much later. So a lot of the questionable design decisions begin to make a lot more sense in that context.

    • @lionfire3359
      @lionfire3359 Před 2 lety +23

      It was a stand alone mmo and 1of the first mmo to use Facebook account subscription.

    • @NaudVanDalen
      @NaudVanDalen Před 2 lety +47

      So that's why the game has Farmville built in.

    • @steggopotamus
      @steggopotamus Před 2 lety +19

      I guess that explains why it feels mechanically like cookie clicker, the mmo.

    • @NajidHajee
      @NajidHajee Před rokem +4

      ayy dofus profile pic, wish he'd do a video on it

    • @Platzhalterxy
      @Platzhalterxy Před rokem +1

      for an facebook game its good though

  • @DenethorDurrandir
    @DenethorDurrandir Před 2 lety +447

    Damn, the voice acting is actually stellar, better then many huge MMO's

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 Před rokem +29

      Doubt they could afford expensive voice actors, so their voice director must've been really good at his job

    • @Sora-o
      @Sora-o Před rokem +5

      Ya honestly that voice acting was really good.

    • @AdminAbuse
      @AdminAbuse Před rokem +4

      Than

    • @rouyzaki3758
      @rouyzaki3758 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@AdminAbuselmao nerd ass🤓

    • @TheOnlyGhxst
      @TheOnlyGhxst Před 7 měsíci +1

      You need to play better games. ESO, SWTOR, FFXIV... even Wizard101 or Rift all have 100x better voice acting than this game. Edit: Forgot to mention LOTRO... and other games.

  • @m__y-t-s
    @m__y-t-s Před 2 lety +51

    Kevin MacLeod may be an internet saint for his music, but to me he'll always be the guy with the awesome graph paper generators. As a nerd, sometimes you need just the right kind of graph/dot/hex paper, and he fills those needs.

  • @taliats
    @taliats Před 2 lety +334

    "This is the combat system version of a slightly cloudy Thursday"
    I have a headache from laughing

    • @Renagadezzzz
      @Renagadezzzz Před 2 lety +5

      I could relate to that statement, go figure it is also Thursday

  • @Ninosai
    @Ninosai Před 2 lety +380

    "microwave meal you bought at the reduced section because you know it's not going to be a culinary delight but it's warm and you're hungry." is such a mood, christ.

    • @erock.steady
      @erock.steady Před 2 lety +7

      ... out of 10, tho! lol

    • @erock.steady
      @erock.steady Před 2 lety

      lol uhh wut? ㄟ(ツ)ㄏ

    • @chefnerd
      @chefnerd Před 2 lety +3

      well that's weird - i did not answer to that comment but a different one. youtube comments seem scrambled somehow. i'm sorry if i confused you.

    • @MyNameIsGhost
      @MyNameIsGhost Před 2 lety

      And its cold at first then warm as fuck.....like my heart......out of 10

    • @mattvoelker241
      @mattvoelker241 Před 2 lety +2

      @@chefnerd I''ve had this same issue myself and can never tell if its a visual glitch(it sometimes corrects if i refresh) or an actual bug.

  • @wadejohnston4305
    @wadejohnston4305 Před rokem +65

    I spent a lot of time in this game. The player base in my experience was never anything but extremely friendly helpful and always willing to go out of their way to help new players. Getting new mounts and cosmetic items for free was always pretty easy and not too time consuming. Idk I'm just glad to see it get some coverage tbh.

  • @Marioz08
    @Marioz08 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Watching this 2 years late right before Halloween. Touché Mr. Hayes.... Touché....

  • @CrimZun
    @CrimZun Před 2 lety +388

    "When you wanna play an online game but all of you're friends are offline so you hit up a friend of a friend who you don't really play with all that often doesn't talk that much and isn't really funny but he plays decent enough and it's better then playing alone" The game

  • @ArchjSM
    @ArchjSM Před 2 lety +576

    I played this until level 22 or something, so I can actually answer your question. It's because I played it on mobile. And though it is bland and mediocre by PC standards, it stands out as one of the actual good MMORPGs on mobile. That's the entire reason.

    • @FirstLast-le7cx
      @FirstLast-le7cx Před 2 lety +48

      Yeah. I look at it as a mobile game that you can play on PC.

    • @Morindor
      @Morindor Před 2 lety +9

      I mean there are a few good MMORPGs on mobile that mop the floor with this one. Apart from looking decent, this has no substance to it and I don't see why I would play it even on mobile.

    • @ArchjSM
      @ArchjSM Před 2 lety +61

      @@Morindor feel free to mention these games, because I can't find them

    • @Morindor
      @Morindor Před 2 lety +13

      @@ArchjSM Albion Online, Warhammer Odyssey, Bless Mobile, Black Desert Mobile, World of Kings amongst some of them
      Mostly anything that is a PC port will instantly be better than anything made for mobile

    • @ArchjSM
      @ArchjSM Před 2 lety +73

      @@Morindor the one where you may have a point is Albion, but it was a hassle to setup back when I tried it. Warhammer Odyssey was extremely boring, I played the first three months and gave up, but maybe it's better now.
      As for the rest of your suggestions; are you actually serious? They're all autoplay crap, probably p2w too

  • @arcadicus_ezevius
    @arcadicus_ezevius Před rokem +15

    23:21 is crazy accurate
    Always felt like I was waiting for the best part to happen but never does. Except for those times when people keep helping me with quests, items, and stuff.
    The community is the absolute best. Cause everyone loves helping each other out especially new players

  • @mr_ekshun
    @mr_ekshun Před 2 lety +29

    y'know, the color palette in this game really is fantastic. It feels weird to say the best thing about a game is its color palette, but that's genuinely how I feel about this one haha

  • @anro_gaming
    @anro_gaming Před 2 lety +336

    Josh: Enjoy my pain playing worst MMO
    Josh's impostor: You got me there!

  • @YourPalKindred
    @YourPalKindred Před 2 lety +124

    My uncle honestly loves this game. He's getting on in years so this is a relaxing game for him

    • @juhadexcelsior
      @juhadexcelsior Před 2 lety +37

      that's hilariously sweet

    • @ashleyreynolds8961
      @ashleyreynolds8961 Před rokem +9

      as someone who actually played this game and liked it (so a time...), i can see why he would like it! its relaxing...

    • @arcadicus_ezevius
      @arcadicus_ezevius Před rokem +5

      The community is so great aswell. Everyone loves helping each other. Fond memories

  • @SocksAndPuppets
    @SocksAndPuppets Před 9 měsíci +6

    No shade on Kevin MacLeod - a lot of small streamers and creators use his stuff for background music - I've used it in game jams before. He's made a lot of good quality "game music" and it's free to use non-commercially, and I really respect creators who do this kind of thing, so smaller creators who need those assets (but can't make them) have free options.

  • @orangeismyfavoritecolor
    @orangeismyfavoritecolor Před 2 lety +23

    15:57 Dude, those dragons come from free models, I think. I remember playing a free mobile game years ago with those exact same dragon models.
    90 dollars for a bunch of free models... yikes...

  • @frankmisiuda2148
    @frankmisiuda2148 Před 2 lety +96

    Josh: "You will know this music too"
    Me: Eh, probably not.
    *Song plays*
    Me: Oh! It's the booster box song at the Tolarian Community College!

  • @balthazar579
    @balthazar579 Před 2 lety +283

    Your whole experience reminds me of being a roadie for a local.
    At one show, there was a Metallica cover band. Their set never stopped, they played all the way straight through, by combing through all of Metallica's songs to form this perfectly flowing set. They played well and sang well. Within 5 minutes everyonenwas basically ignoring them. They were musically proficient, and the arrangement was actually very clever, but somehow they managed to make Metallica boring.
    Contrast this with other locals who would do medleys, or on one memorable occasion had the audience help them butcher War Pigs. Much more memorable and fun experiences(especially the war pigs one where the mic was being passed through the crowd).
    First is technically correct, but the second has a soul.

    • @LuriTV
      @LuriTV Před 2 lety +24

      Roadie for a local? So you are a stayie? (sorry for the bad pun...)
      Ya I can feel you on this. It is a bit like listening to Dream Theater. Every band member is among the best players of their particular instrument worldwide but if you are not interested in music theory or even a musician yourself some of their longer songs start to drag on and many listeners get bored of them.

    • @TG-ge1oh
      @TG-ge1oh Před 2 lety +2

      @@LuriTV I couldn't agree more.

    • @concentrator3906
      @concentrator3906 Před 2 lety +2

      @@LuriTV instead of listening to them, I prefer Fates Warning(John Arch Era) or Crimson Glory and bands in the same vein that has grit and soul which dream theater lack considering they are called a progressive metal band. I recommend blasting out "Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian(album)" when playing Sword and Sorcery themed games like this. The album is pure magick.

    • @somefreshbread
      @somefreshbread Před 2 lety +2

      @@LuriTV I didn't realize why I got so bored with DT until I read this. They opened for Deep Purple and ELP and I was so excited to see them. But they just. Played. And then left the stage. And then it was over and ELP brough out their spinning drum set and killed it.

    • @turkicnomad5632
      @turkicnomad5632 Před rokem

      A damned soul

  • @blazernitrox6329
    @blazernitrox6329 Před rokem +6

    Fun fact: that scribbling sound they use for quest objectives as the exact same as one of the sounds used for the Minecraft mod Thaumcraft, leading me to believe it's actually a freely available sound asset (although I've yet to track down the source)

  • @dieyng
    @dieyng Před 2 lety +5

    "If Warcraft is Lego, this is Playmobil." Love that comparison.

  • @Riplee86
    @Riplee86 Před 2 lety +66

    16:21 Those aren't even 2 different models. It's just one model with 2 sizes and 8 colors...that's some impressive designer laziness.

  • @grizzly3956
    @grizzly3956 Před 2 lety +114

    That bit about actors exploding if their egos are damaged gave me immediate RDJ vibes lol

    • @Spyko-
      @Spyko- Před 2 lety +6

      made me think of that futurama episode

  • @voilvelev6775
    @voilvelev6775 Před 2 lety +13

    Honestly, from this video, I think the enemy design is pretty good visually. They dont look generic and that final boss made me chuckle when I realized its wearing feminine red dress and lace, like the actress.

  • @SwoleBenji
    @SwoleBenji Před 2 lety +3

    18:40 lmao Monkeys Spinning Monkeys by Kevin Macleod. Edit: Hah, guess not.

  • @SirBanana1992
    @SirBanana1992 Před 2 lety +35

    "This entire game is one small favour"
    I felt that...I wish I had never remembered.

  • @e50013
    @e50013 Před 2 lety +84

    Actually played this on release, it was fun and the community was great. Unfortunately, at the time, the main story quest wasnt complete so i ran out of stuff to do. Not sure how it is now.

    • @PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi
      @PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi Před 2 lety +3

      Why even playing this, it looks like the alpha version of WoW xD

    • @GPTLeader
      @GPTLeader Před 2 lety

      Is still the same game without new content.

    • @irishelf4187
      @irishelf4187 Před 2 lety +5

      You mean Steam release or when it was first released in 2011 on PC? Tons of content has been added since them and still being added.

    • @anonmouse15
      @anonmouse15 Před 2 lety

      Watch this video and find out.

    • @WrangleMcDangle
      @WrangleMcDangle Před 2 lety +3

      @@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi why even playing this? XDXD el oh el

  • @chemistral4943
    @chemistral4943 Před 2 lety +13

    That final score at the end is so spot on it hurts xD
    My PC died today and I'm too poor to afford a replacement so I downloaded this on my phone to attempt to fill the MMO void I know this can never sate.
    Excellent video and phenomenally well written!

  • @TheLeugim66
    @TheLeugim66 Před 2 lety +4

    “But I used up all the peas…and the trainer won’t give me anymore” for some reason that just got me

  • @poom4535
    @poom4535 Před 2 lety +23

    Worst MMO Ever: Taquito Bandito's Apology Simulator, where you play as Taquito and make an apology. Sadly it's literally unplayable.

  • @gustavvilaca
    @gustavvilaca Před 2 lety +35

    When he said 'its like the second album from a band you like' I felt that

  • @nicoles.awesome3453
    @nicoles.awesome3453 Před 2 lety +7

    this is one of my favorite game to play with my nieces they love this game.
    neat little game and thank you for being honest about all your games you play

  • @autorobo1000
    @autorobo1000 Před 2 lety +19

    Do like how even though he found someone who was pretending to be him, he seemed to just chat it out with the dude, then leave on positive terms. That's cool of Josh.

  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order Před 2 lety +73

    One day I'll see a MMO where the level up animation spawns a mushroom cloud and blows all the surrounding houses away.

    • @Corbomite_Meatballs
      @Corbomite_Meatballs Před rokem +3

      Why are you tempting fate? Now someone's going to make that.
      (But it'll be an animation you need to buy from the cash shop.)

  • @FogToo
    @FogToo Před 2 lety +91

    I had a slight nostalgia hit when watching this. Not for the game itself, but more all the names I recognised from the chat.
    I played this for a full year. There are daily/monthly. Got all the rewards for a year, rewards then stopped. Felt that was the completion of the game for me. Rewards cycle so playing another year gives the same rewards.
    There are more complicated encounters as you go along, and frankly quite good puzzles along the way. It does require you to go through a lot of unforgettable content to reach it. I think you need to reach mid 30's for the first great zone. Although most people hate and complain about these zones because it suddenly requires you to think and work out said puzzles.

  • @thonyarrieche
    @thonyarrieche Před rokem +6

    I love how Josh suffers every game flaws but at the same time beatifully explains why it's bad and enjoys the process! What a legend

  • @litgrits
    @litgrits Před 8 měsíci +3

    i am watching this close to halloween

  • @insanity-vr6vu
    @insanity-vr6vu Před 2 lety +54

    I played this game with a mate for about 20 hours, the highlight of this experience was that fishing made fish explode out of the water.

  • @KashKey-
    @KashKey- Před 2 lety +73

    I really want to see Josh's thoughts on the Korean MMO Elsword. I used to really love that game but it's turned into a complete fucking disaster, and I'd love for him to rip it apart.

    • @EdenMirages
      @EdenMirages Před 2 lety +4

      SAAAMEE
      Elsword used to be my livelihood but god did it get butchered
      I cant wait to watch him go from 1 to 100 in the first 10 minutes of the video

    • @theoryoftheinnocent
      @theoryoftheinnocent Před 2 lety +7

      I feel as if both of you won't quite get what you're looking for if he does look at Elsword, because he won't have the same context as us about the several years worth of patches, system changes, and character buffs/nerfs/additions that made people enjoy the game less.
      If anything I feel like he's going to end up just complaining about certain staple complaints of his (equipment enhancement system with a chance of equipment breaking, locking classes behind certain genders [or characters, as the case is here] mounts pets and outfits that break immersion, etc) and conclude that beyond those sorts of things that are common in Eastern MMOs, the game from the perspective of a total newcomer is fine overall, if maybe repetitive at points.

    • @SSgkLink
      @SSgkLink Před 2 lety

      @@theoryoftheinnocent Yea. In general I don't really care for looking at what general "MMO content creators" say because its pretty much that. No one really takes the time to look deeper than the things that immediately turn them off and thats okay, but it doesn't give any perspective. I've sat there and give KRMMO's a bigger chance than what the average mmo player would because they would just turn it off and go off to the big 3 again.
      Generally it just gets broken down into balance game wise for me. I don't really care about p2w, but I do care if the game is somewhat balanced in a way between p2w/nonp2w. Stuff like Elsword at least from my perspective has broken down due to creep, balancing of the cast and grind required(I could be wrong here, as I've picked up the game over the years giving it longer shots than the last).
      People who like gameplay more will always play KRMMO's imo, its just they're likely to hop around(Just saying from my experience) due to lack of care from devs to balance, to too much p2w etc.

    • @zealot246
      @zealot246 Před 2 lety

      So how was it?

    • @KashKey-
      @KashKey- Před 2 lety +4

      @@zealot246 The fact that he didn't even get to the end game grind was hilarious. I do wish he could have given the story a fairer shake, but I can't blame him because basically all of the interesting shit is in the end game shitshow or supplemental material

  • @travisbennett2531
    @travisbennett2531 Před 2 lety +2

    I love the subtle nod to the RuneScape quest everyone dreads

  • @StevenHawkingsSpitrag
    @StevenHawkingsSpitrag Před 2 lety +4

    That “One Small Favour” reference was spot on. One of the easiest yet most hated quests in OSRS 😂

  • @squizill
    @squizill Před 2 lety +81

    "If this game was a spice, it would be flour" lmao

    • @romanpapec6735
      @romanpapec6735 Před 2 lety +7

      His comparisons are always top notch funny and on point.

    • @voidling2632
      @voidling2632 Před 2 lety

      I understood flower and was confused

  • @KalebSmart
    @KalebSmart Před 2 lety +38

    "If this game was a spice, it'd be flour" - I lost it at that statement. This commentary is too much

  • @sirajussalekin9239
    @sirajussalekin9239 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I am watching this during halloween :)

  • @TBGEM
    @TBGEM Před 8 měsíci +1

    I’m watching near Halloween…Josh you’ve done it again!

  • @delamoxica
    @delamoxica Před 2 lety +56

    So you're an mmorpg chronicler, teacher, leather worker, martial artist and an actor?

    • @kristianthaler6525
      @kristianthaler6525 Před 2 lety +28

      Sounds like a FF character.

    • @AmandaTroutman
      @AmandaTroutman Před 2 lety +10

      I think he also does cosplay right

    • @cericat
      @cericat Před 2 lety +3

      @@AmandaTroutman yeah he's shown off at least one cosplay in the past couple of months. IIRC it was during the Warframe video.

    • @GodwynDi
      @GodwynDi Před 2 lety

      @@cericat For which he learned leatherworking

    • @cericat
      @cericat Před 2 lety

      @@GodwynDi yep, I remember because of the bag he wanted for it being something that was always going to have to be handmade.

  • @oplawlz
    @oplawlz Před 2 lety +47

    "The good scooby-doo from the 90's" Oh you sweet child. The good scooby-doo was from the 70s.

    • @DudeTheMighty
      @DudeTheMighty Před 2 lety +3

      If you ask me, it wasn't until the 2010's or so that the perennial Scooby Doo reboots started to be genuinely bad.

    • @lucasmarsh9841
      @lucasmarsh9841 Před 2 lety +3

      Everyone thinks that the Scooby-Doo they grow up with is the good Scooby-Doo and that’s a fact

    • @EinFelsbrocken
      @EinFelsbrocken Před rokem

      @@lucasmarsh9841 Yeah... except for this generation now, eh? 🤣

    • @EinFelsbrocken
      @EinFelsbrocken Před rokem

      @@lucasmarsh9841 Yeah... except for this generation now, eh? 🤣

    • @Sara88890
      @Sara88890 Před 2 měsíci +1

      That's what I was thinking, the good Scooby-Doo from the 90s was from the 70s.

  • @mattpitts6586
    @mattpitts6586 Před 2 lety +11

    It may be a relatively simple game but it's relaxing to play, has a great community and no p2w, as a mobile playable game it's easy to pick up an play, works well on a mediocre tablet, for a free game you can very easily keep up without spending a penny how much can you ask for, and no pvp for everyone fed up of being ganked by whales. Oh, there is nothing other than cosmetic items you can't get in game. Motes you get gathering, keys you can get from drops, there is absolutely nothing behind a paywall but shineys that affect no gameplay

    • @irenafarm
      @irenafarm Před 10 měsíci

      It's definitely got pay to progress. Since it's pve only, that's the same. To reach end game in a reasonable amount of time, you'll have to pay in real money, or in time, which is also money. Players eventually get pissed off when a mediocre game gates off progress behind cash or grinding time.

    • @mattpitts6586
      @mattpitts6586 Před 10 měsíci

      @@irenafarm the only real benefit you can get from paying is a 5% Inc to certain stats. All games like this take time, so not sure why that would be an issue, show me any rpg style game that doesn't require levelling up lol
      For a game where all content is accessible for free its a great game.

  • @AtrusGambit
    @AtrusGambit Před 2 lety +8

    I was hooked on this game years ago when it was still small. Brilliant.
    Then they introduced a million insane mechanics and vomited a million new items into my inventory.
    I come back to it from time to time but can't ever figure out how to play again. That's bad.

    • @Hirotoro4692
      @Hirotoro4692 Před rokem

      A million insane mechanics? Like the red Aoe on that boss? :Laughing:

    • @tacticalg754
      @tacticalg754 Před rokem

      Dude this is the most simple and repetitive MMO I've ever seen, wdym million mechanisms? Or not being able to figure out the game?

    • @irenafarm
      @irenafarm Před 10 měsíci

      I'm guessing they mean the crafting systems.

  • @thenarrator6846
    @thenarrator6846 Před 2 lety +78

    It's really wholesome seeing the patreon list get really big

  • @sharrick1208
    @sharrick1208 Před 2 lety +23

    Considering some of the games that have come out and the scam games and all that this game is seems pretty decent like one that I could recommend as a 10 year olds first mmo

  • @sintaq1815
    @sintaq1815 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I am watching this on Halloween and I think you've been clever.

  • @ImSquiggs
    @ImSquiggs Před rokem +1

    I too have seen Wheatus in concert., haha. There was about 15 of us there, and they extended Teenage Dirtbag into a 20 minute breakdown and had their bouncer battle-rap over the beat against anyone that wanted to come up on the stage and freestyle him. They were also playing Smash 64 in their tour bus before the show when we went up to it. Pretty sweet show all things considered.

  • @MirinkaiserVODs
    @MirinkaiserVODs Před 2 lety +22

    "On my way to the next station, I kill Shrook the sheep, who was a bounty enemy. Whoever put a bounty on a sheep - you can sleep safely once again."
    THAT is where I lost it!

  • @SoulFoxie
    @SoulFoxie Před 2 lety +19

    Josh: "And you have to dodge the red-"
    Well I guess I'm colorblind cause that's clearly fucking purple

  • @greatrandini
    @greatrandini Před 2 lety +1

    Nice reference to Simon Miller, this video gets an up, but not just an up, a golden up.

  • @TheMister123
    @TheMister123 Před 2 lety +1

    5:20 - OMG, they got someone to do an impression of Richard Kind for that NPC. 🤣 And it's actually a pretty good impression. They even made the NPC resemble him. :-)

  • @robertlee2092
    @robertlee2092 Před 2 lety +23

    This is like the default project that opens up when you boot up the MMO Maker program they use to make all the other games Josh reviews

  • @KaoruSugimura
    @KaoruSugimura Před 2 lety +81

    It's really telling when this is considered among the top 3 best MMORPGs on mobile. :/
    If only we had a proper multiplayer rpg on mobile that wasn't p2w, buggy as hell or dying (because the actual good ones are old games).
    It's almost as if people can't make a decent multiplayer mobile game now without cramming it full of ads, cash shop items that suck the soul from the game and gameplay mechanics that are barely functional (if at all) whilst having auto-play as a "feature". 🤢

    • @callmequaz9052
      @callmequaz9052 Před 2 lety +10

      It's not particularly difficult to make a good game. There's plenty of sources to take inspiration from. The problem is good games don't make money, and they certainly don't compare to the kind of revenue the typical p2w mobile game makes. The reason why so many mobile games feel so awful to play is for that reason - they're designed to drain you and frustrate you enough you either give in and start coughing up money, or you leave the game. I don't get why but there are people more than happy to throw thousands of pounds at these games and gatekeep anyone that doesn't spend more than they do out of the game. You don't need a large player base when you have those kinds of people generating your revenue.

    • @sheetinthestreet5903
      @sheetinthestreet5903 Před 2 lety +1

      What are the other two best MMOs on mobile?

    • @randomstuff-qu7sh
      @randomstuff-qu7sh Před 2 lety +4

      @@callmequaz9052 I don't understand it either. The best explanation I heard is that these games aren't designed for the ordinary players; they're designed specifically to attract and addict whales. The rest of us, they just want to pressure us into making a few purchases before we quit.

    • @mattballin13
      @mattballin13 Před 2 lety +4

      @@sheetinthestreet5903 I'm assuming one of them is Oldschool Runescape.

    • @suicidaldaily
      @suicidaldaily Před rokem +1

      @@sheetinthestreet5903 Albion Online is good

  • @AI-Abominations
    @AI-Abominations Před 2 lety +7

    What are these MMOs made with? They all seem the same and there is no way they're making them from scratch (or it would take them years)

    • @ExaltedUriel
      @ExaltedUriel Před 2 lety +1

      In my experience mostly either Unity or Unreal Engine, probably because they're both powerful but easy to use.

    • @irenafarm
      @irenafarm Před 10 měsíci

      Amusingly, this one was home brewed, but they used lots of free/cheap/public libraries for assets. They've more than likely used one of the big engines to update it since then, though. Nothing wrong with that, though it would look better if they updated the free assets and supported artists and coders with some of that cash shop money.

  • @amisner2k
    @amisner2k Před 2 lety +4

    I thoroughly enjoyed this review of a microwave meal you buy at the local corner store, at the end of the day, because your refrigerator is completely empty and you have nothing else to eat for dinner. You've got some great wit and humor, Josh. I'm quickly becoming a fan of your classic British eloquence and palpably pleasing demeanor.

  • @snark4748
    @snark4748 Před 2 lety +15

    When I heard the Simon Miller reference my head automatically filled in headslap noises, so thank you for that.

  • @net_spider
    @net_spider Před 2 lety +42

    I kinda want to see Josh's opinion on Project Gorgon. I personally love the game, but it's never had a high player count and a lot of progress takes a while to actually get done.

    • @TheScrubExpress
      @TheScrubExpress Před 2 lety +6

      yeah I've been waiting for that one. I tweeted him about it a few months back and he said it's on his list. So..someday!

    • @Animaniac-vd5st
      @Animaniac-vd5st Před 2 lety +2

      Oh yes - i enjoyed that game for several days and it has some great ideas and mechanics.
      And some horrible technical problems (eg unplayable laggy movement when there are 10+ players in your viewport - which basically only happens in the main s´city anyway)
      But you can play as a literal pig!

    • @AunCollective
      @AunCollective Před 2 lety +3

      I bought Project Gorgon a few years ago because my first and personal favorite MMORPG is Asheron's Call. I even live my life by a lot of the values of the Aun Tumerok and my wife has accompanied me on many Aun adventures.
      Project Gorgon was full of jokey quests and immersion breaking shenanigans, and I found the gameplay itself rather dull. Definitely not a bad game, but it definitely didn't offer anything to keep me playing after 50 hours or so. It would be a good one to cover for this series and I'd be willing to gift it for that purpose.

    • @Grichmann
      @Grichmann Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks for bringing that game to my attention. I gave the demo a go, and while I'm still not sure whether I like it or not, it's definitely an interesting experience. I mean, on the one hand, it has skills for cartography, music, and even *dying*. On the other, the options menu has a toggle to autoreject milking attempts.

    • @Animaniac-vd5st
      @Animaniac-vd5st Před 2 lety +1

      @@Grichmann which both are great things.

  • @vili638
    @vili638 Před rokem +2

    1:31 DANG that pose is FRUITY

  • @davidsion2151
    @davidsion2151 Před 2 lety +1

    that simon miller the bald a hole joke goes underrated!

  • @MichaelDeGar
    @MichaelDeGar Před 2 lety +13

    Im still patiently waiting for Secret World! There are dozens of us!

    • @bennymountain1
      @bennymountain1 Před 2 lety +4

      Man that shit was hyped up, yo.

    • @slothsong080
      @slothsong080 Před 2 lety +2

      I don't need a reminder on how one of my favorite mmos got butchered.

  • @gdwnet
    @gdwnet Před 2 lety +6

    "This is the combat system of a slightly grey thursday" - love it!

  • @KraggHC
    @KraggHC Před 2 lety +2

    "If this game was a spice, it would have been flour"
    Apply water to burnt area....
    Oh no, you've accidentally made bread.

  • @arinami
    @arinami Před rokem +1

    "second album from a band you like, not bad just not good"
    Demon Days:

  • @Noumenae
    @Noumenae Před 2 lety +5

    10:38 OSRS reference, love it.

  • @Nexiusify
    @Nexiusify Před 2 lety +10

    Ooh I think I requested this once. Glad to see you reviewing it.

  • @timothyhansen6581
    @timothyhansen6581 Před 4 měsíci +1

    28:04: Personally, I would have had the guy asking for the password say "I am the Gatekeeper," to which you - the player - should then have to say "And I am the Keymaster" back. Sure, it wouldn't land quite as well without the guard being an animated clone of 1980's Sigourney Weaver, but it would have fit the situation.

  • @isocryd
    @isocryd Před rokem +1

    I'm actually re-watching this on Halloween XD

  • @richardhajnal6143
    @richardhajnal6143 Před 2 lety +16

    "I do seem to be playing the human version of shrek"
    I see this as an absolute win

  • @IsomerMashups
    @IsomerMashups Před 2 lety +6

    Ah. I know "The Builder," but I didn't know where I knew it from.
    I used to use it for some demo presentations at one of my previous jobs. It was one of our approved license-free commercial songs.

  • @Sorain1
    @Sorain1 Před 2 lety +4

    This games design suggests to me it's intended for bots to play. Because everything is easy to setup for a bot and you have a minimum of verity in it.

  • @davidhenderson8842
    @davidhenderson8842 Před 2 lety

    Found your chanel 2 days ago. Currently watching this video on Halloween. Nice touch with the spooky house :D

  • @gothmoth8050
    @gothmoth8050 Před 2 lety +77

    " feels like a microwaved dinner " - *puts down my salisbury steak and Mac and cheese* 😕

    • @Zack_Wester
      @Zack_Wester Před 2 lety +6

      and here I have had a few microwave dinners that are actually fine if not outright good.... problem is that they have a habit of been a bit to small portions.
      so if your planing on having that better buy some bread to it or something.

    • @user-et8vm9cc3t
      @user-et8vm9cc3t Před 2 lety +1

      "That's just rancid."
      "THIS IS FUCKING RAW!"
      "Seafood crêpe? More like seafood crap !"
      ""WHERE'S THE LAMB SAUCE?!"

    • @user-et8vm9cc3t
      @user-et8vm9cc3t Před 2 lety

      And other memorable quotes. :)

    • @AJ_Ol
      @AJ_Ol Před 2 lety +2

      Good, your body and taste buds deserve better

    • @shabath
      @shabath Před 2 lety +1

      @@AJ_Ol What do you mean? You don't want 110% of your daily sodium from a tiny meal that's still bland?

  • @eltrew
    @eltrew Před 2 lety +5

    this is literally my favourite series on youtube rn

  • @psivampire13
    @psivampire13 Před 2 lety +2

    I do like the weapon system how weapons give you different skills. Like each bow can have different skills. You can combine weapons to change skills And then you can choose (for ranger) to go more of a poison build, a basic damage build, or a nature damage build.
    They also really changed the first city, the questline, and the tutorial since I last played it. Which was like half a year ago.
    I feel like gathering/crafting is more fleshed out than combat. Also, the neighborhood are cool, where you are in an instance with houses and that is like your neighborhood. And you can donate gathering things to the neighborhood. You get a garden and can get animals like sheep.

  • @SteakZ86
    @SteakZ86 Před rokem +2

    I feel personally attacked watching this on Halloween 2022👻

  • @Assywalker
    @Assywalker Před 2 lety +5

    Mate, the level of verbal smack down you deliver in these videos is a true marvel.

  • @martijnalblas1761
    @martijnalblas1761 Před 2 lety +5

    that obnoxious pencil sound he mentioned..
    Ive heard that before, used in a mod for minecraft (thaumcraft 4 for those curious)
    that music thats apparently from secondhand land is a kevin macleod track. AKA it has no licencing and is thus free to use
    Im beginning to see a potential theme here..
    EDIT: I paused to write this right before he pointed that out

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Před rokem +3

    09:09 if you only knew what they would do to Scooby Doo....

  • @BigBeanBilly
    @BigBeanBilly Před 8 měsíci +1

    My god, I am in fact watching this on Halloween 2 years later, picking the spooky mansion was very clever, Josh from 2 years ago!

  • @RTMaster1
    @RTMaster1 Před 2 lety +7

    gathering resources in this game is like getting channel-points on twitch. the system tells you to click on the things that appear, but not clicking them has no downside

  • @e.t.weaver3407
    @e.t.weaver3407 Před 2 lety +15

    I want to like this video because you are very talented at what you do. The problem is that while I found some of your comments to be accurate, they were spoiled by a glaring inaccuracy near the very beginning. You cited statistics from Steam to illustrate how sparse the game population is and how much that population has diminished since the game came out. Later in the video, you mentioned it was available for mobile and pc. The game is actually available through Apple and Google for mobile play, An SAC [Stand Alone Client] download for pc, and is also available through Steam. That's four sources from which you could have gotten your statistics but you only used one source, the least popular of the four, to cite how unpopular the game is. If you had bothered to do your research you would have discovered that while Steam usage has dropped, SAC and mobile usage has grown to the point that the game has had to add two servers during a time when many premium titles are merging servers. You followed that up with several screenshots of negative reviews, to support your case, ignoring the larger number of positive reviews that had been posted to the same sites from which you obtained the negative statements.
    By citing data from the least popular source while ignoring data from the three more popular sources, you present evidence that the game has declined when the exact opposite is true. While I would not go so far as to call this an outright lie, it is, all the same, a lie of omission. If you begin your video with a false statement, why would I be inclined to believe anything that followed that statement? You complained about the fact you have to buy high-priced boots to jump higher. Did you not see the free boots on the new player calendar? You complained about having to buy a mount in order to move faster. Did you not see the free mount, also on the new player calendar? Did you not turn in your quest for another free mount when you finished the opening questline? You complained about having to buy more motes for crafting. Did you not see that motes are available as quest rewards and drop while gathering? In the eight years I have played this game, I have never bought a mote and all my crafting is at max level. You also complained about having to buy storage space in order to continue, so I suppose you missed the free vault and free bag space on the new calendar, and the free vault on the daily log-in calendar. I guess you missed the free ultimate weapon and premium outfit as well? The truth of the matter is that this is the only "free" MMO I have ever found where you can play to end content without having to spend a dime.
    I honestly think you are a talented guy and do an awesome job presenting your content. Sadly, you seem to begin your research with preconceived notions and ignore anything that does not support those notions. You put forth a lot of criticism that was accurate, but half or more of what you presented was either false or misleading. Yes, the game has faults. Yes, the game has room for improvement, just like every MMO ever made. And yes, the game continues to get active development and continues to improve which is why it is still growing after a decade of service... but I guess those observations don't fit the narrative. The devs and players of V&H deserve better than a one dimension review that points out all the flaws while ignoring the many virtues. It's disappointing to see someone of your talent rely on negativity in order to build views and subscriptions.

    • @divindiimpresario7779
      @divindiimpresario7779 Před 2 lety +7

      This. This is everything I wanted to say but you articulated it so much better than the comment I made earlier. Thank you.

    • @JoshStrifeHayes
      @JoshStrifeHayes  Před 2 lety +5

      My videos are made to entertain, they are entertainment.
      I have 8 hours to write and record the script, i make 3 videos a week, detailed research isn't something i can do for each video.
      Imagine your comment, but for every single video i make, from multiple people, because that's what i get.
      Every super fan of every game gets annoyed when i get even a minor bit of their game wrong

    • @e.t.weaver3407
      @e.t.weaver3407 Před 2 lety +5

      @@JoshStrifeHayes From what I've seen you get a lot more likes than comments like mine. That said, you will always get negative comments from the "super fans" even if your video is spot on. Myself, I'm not a super fan. Yes, I've played the game for 8 years but it's mainly because I like the community and the producers at Mad Otter.
      Perhaps some of those super fan comments are like mine. They are not annoyed that you did a negative review. They are annoyed that you went into a game they enjoy with the express purpose of writing a negative piece with little thought for fairness and zero regard for accuracy.
      It's okay. I get it. This is what your followers want to see. It amuses them to see something torn down. They understand that your time constraints don't leave time for trivialities like fairness, accuracy, and honesty. The super fans don't like it but that's because they don't appreciate the fact that the masses demand to be entertained and if that entertainment comes at the expense of others, it's all that much funnier. I on the other hand can clearly see what you are doing and you are very good at it. My compliments on another hatchet job, well done.

    • @JoshStrifeHayes
      @JoshStrifeHayes  Před 2 lety +1

      @@e.t.weaver3407 k

    • @EricEustace
      @EricEustace Před rokem

      @@e.t.weaver3407 well said! Totally agree! I've only been playing the game for a few days and even I saw the huge flaws in this "review". I've played all the main mobile mmo's from dragon raja, ni no Kune, toram to perfect world etc, etc, and I can honestly say this game is up there above them in terms of game play. Its the gem that people have been asking for instead of the cookie cutter Korean mmo's flooding the market these days. It's a shame people will be turned away because of this misinformed video.

  • @A._is_for
    @A._is_for Před 2 měsíci

    "It's warm and you're hungry"
    ...had worse plans for a saturday night😂

  • @andrewcullen2527
    @andrewcullen2527 Před 2 lety +2

    But Josh, did those Peas ever grow? The peas are there, waiting for you, abandoned, forgotten...for the Peas Josh, finish the storyline about you and Gardening which has more emotional impact then the rest of the game