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  • čas přidán 20. 12. 2011
  • This is a Sad Video so be careful.
    You Will See the DEATH of Lamazes Horse Hickstead on 06.11.2011 in Verona where he was competing for the world cup... A Fine Horse that we will always remember...
    R.I.P. Hickstead.

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  • @Iantorchwood94
    @Iantorchwood94 Před 4 lety +3350

    Worst part is that until the end he tried not to hurt his rider... Poor Hickstead really had a heart of gold...

    • @simeb611
      @simeb611 Před 3 lety +33

      Yes

    • @mariafelidi6264
      @mariafelidi6264 Před 3 lety +13

      @Tanya Abraham Very sorry about that.

    • @flexionfkecx1923
      @flexionfkecx1923 Před 3 lety +8

      💀

    • @HunterPeale
      @HunterPeale Před 2 lety +55

      a horse once threw me as she was going down so as not to land on me. she wasn't hurt, by the way, luckily

    • @Iantorchwood94
      @Iantorchwood94 Před 2 lety +57

      @@HunterPeale same thing for me, he saved me from an awful fall but cut his knee right open almost to the bone. He had to rest for almost 2 months because the knee is difficult to heal and scat but he's alright today ☺️
      Bravest and kindest pony I have ever met !

  • @emilywhittle1420
    @emilywhittle1420 Před 3 lety +356

    To anyone saying that Eric Lamaze did nothing to help his horse, the first thing he did was get his reins off his neck so he wouldn’t get tangled in anything. And if YOU suddenly had your horse drop and start seizing you CANNOT tell me you wouldn’t be is shock. It’s clear from the video the man was in a state of shock. He is basically frozen staring in shock and plain horror as to what was happening to his partner, one of the best show jumping horses of all time. After this happened, Eric went thru a period of depression thinking that it WAS HIM who cause Hickstead to pass away. Even after the coroner report came back and said he died of an aorta rupture, that was a rare thing to happen to any horse, and IT IS NOT FIXABLE, and WASNT caused by overtraining or drugs. IF that was the case, it’s much more likely that his heart would have burst. Not his aorta. Aorta ruptures are rare, but they happen to random horses in pasture that are just playing with their herd mates. A horse at the barn I ride at died of aorta rupture doing just that. His owner saw him drop, as well as a couple other people, and RAN to try to help but by the time they got to Timmy (That was his name, Tiny Tim) he had already passed away. His owner was inconsolable for over a year. She ended up quitting competitions altogether. RIP Hickstead (And RIP Timmy)

    • @emma-bw3nl
      @emma-bw3nl Před 2 lety +9

      Blabla bla

    • @jaysmooth6374
      @jaysmooth6374 Před 2 lety +9

      Blah blah blah, stfu and stop defending this sport!!

    • @carmengaona9533
      @carmengaona9533 Před rokem +31

      @@emma-bw3nl that is pretty rude and disrespectful.

    • @ReinKayomi
      @ReinKayomi Před rokem +10

      @@emma-bw3nl Get off you vegan nutcase

    • @kpina2081
      @kpina2081 Před rokem +18

      @@emma-bw3nl
      Not her fault you can't read.

  • @equestrian2415
    @equestrian2415 Před 2 lety +25

    The fact that the rider gave him as much space as possible and the crew untracked him as fast as possible to make him feel as comfortable as possible

  • @Pxlxarizyz
    @Pxlxarizyz Před rokem +85

    Who's here after seeing that youtube short :(
    👇

  • @gailrodgers4434
    @gailrodgers4434 Před 3 lety +155

    I wish I could answer every comment here, like no he didn't die from the bit, he wasn't forced to jump, he wasn't on any drugs. This is one of the great show jumping horse and rider teams of all time. This horse was worth millions of dollars and no one is stupid enough to overwork him or force him to do anything he doesn't want to, especially at that level. My friend's horse dropped dead the same way trotting in a field; it just happens. My understanding is, once he goes down like that, he's basically unconscious and there's nothing anyone could do at that point. Anyway, nothing but sympathy for Eric Lamaze and his team, who must have been heartbroken to lose such a beautiful friend and partner.

    • @da55470
      @da55470 Před 3 lety +11

      Thanks so much for explaining

    • @gailrodgers4434
      @gailrodgers4434 Před 3 lety +5

      @@shakingbones1768 I understand what you're saying, but with all the drug testing they have to do at these competitions, I just don't see how that could be.

    • @katharinaklemme7557
      @katharinaklemme7557 Před 3 lety +6

      „No one is stupid enough to overwork a horse worth a million dollars“ - yes. Most of the people owning horses like that are - Best example would be Totilas - he was worth so much money, yet his owners made him compete eventhough his vet records weren‘t clear, he was in pain (later disqualified for that injury) & was clearly overworked. That‘s what people do, they over work these horses.

    • @katharinaklemme7557
      @katharinaklemme7557 Před 3 lety +1

      It‘s not only Totilas .. there are many others .. you‘ll name them

    • @lottiestanley7696
      @lottiestanley7696 Před 3 lety +4

      @@shakingbones1768 - As a nurse, that sort of thing happens to people when they die as well... even when not on drugs. It can be part of the death process.
      My cousin’s mother died of the same thing. I was standing with my cousin at her bedside when it happened. She had gone to the hospital due to pain, and died before she could be diagnosed, or treated for anything.

  • @josiemcdevitt
    @josiemcdevitt Před 5 lety +227

    Stop commenting on why the rider isn’t do anything. What is he supposed to do? He’s not a vet, and he’s probably in shock.

    • @checkmateknightracing7134
      @checkmateknightracing7134 Před 5 lety +19

      Poor guy was probably in shock that was his partner and best friend

    • @ninasastri
      @ninasastri Před 4 lety +3

      Of course he was in s hock . what incredible stupid people are

    • @donnamurphy8066
      @donnamurphy8066 Před 4 lety +5

      Josie McDevitt
      I totally agree with u I jumped to a conclusion & it wasn't fair to the rider! I saw the press conference he had & u could just hear the pain in his voice! I was just so upset when I saw this it tore my heart out & I couldn't stop crying!!! So I apologize for my comment!🌻

    • @rosapfeffer5358
      @rosapfeffer5358 Před 3 lety +3

      I had situations like this with horses cats and dogs and Birds.. I am not a vet but i would take the had and speak with this poor animal.. and call for help but for this people horses like machines for money and sucsess.. I grow up with horses and i know what I say..!

    • @jobond3317
      @jobond3317 Před 3 lety +1

      Everyone response differently in such a terrible event. I think the rider was in total shock couldn't believe what was happening. You can see that in his walk he didn't know where to go what to do shock. As he seemed to what to space to people rushing to help his horse. He looked shattered. I feel for him

  • @rip_chad1755
    @rip_chad1755 Před rokem +56

    POV: you search "Hickstead" after watching Short.

  • @adrianaclark8498
    @adrianaclark8498 Před 10 měsíci +19

    I experienced the death of one of my horses. As I led him out of the stable to put him out to pasture, I noticed he started to drag the left legs. He made it a few more paces, still dragging the left legs. I knew instantly that he was having a stroke. The stroke was in the right side of the brain, hence, the failure of movement on the left side. It was so sad and I quickly moved the lead rope up so he wouldn't become entangled. He went down on his left side and lifted his head slightly for just a second. He died instantly and I was glad he did not suffer pain. I was a nurse and knew the signs of a stroke. There was nothing anyone could do even if the vet had been standing there when it happened. Some have insinuated that the horse was competing with the full knowledge that he was not fit. I find this impossible to believe as all of the horses in competition at this level MUST have a veterinarian examine them prior to the competition. Some conditions (such as an aortic aneurysm) are not detectable on a routine exam for fitness. Every exam would have to include ultrasound and/or scans, in order to be picked up. How often, when YOU go to the doctor, are EKG's, ultrasounds, and/or scans done on you? None, unless you are exhibiting some sign or symptoms that a physicians deems requires further investigation. I believe this horse exhibited NO signs of impending doom. In good health, a competitive horse in excellent condition, would have shown no signs of an aneurysm until it bursts. Then the end is quick. I know the rider must have been deeply saddened at the loss of his horse. It was not just a competitor, it was also a horse that he had loved and felt a strong bond with. My heart goes out to them both.

  • @vintageryn7217
    @vintageryn7217 Před 3 lety +97

    CZcams really shouldn’t be recommending this video to people with no understanding of horses. These people automatically make a villain out of this rider who absolutely loved this horse. What happened was random and shows no signs beforehand. When horses get this high in competition, they’re more well cared for and privileged than most humans. These horses have 24/7 guards, constant medical routine checkups, and a myriad of other amenities to make sure that they are able to do what they love. You can’t get a horse to do this kind of thing that well if they don’t love it (and you can’t drug horses for competitions either).
    Fly high Hickstead 🐴❤️

  • @Layla-ct2mx
    @Layla-ct2mx Před 3 lety +120

    I don’t have the time and patience to reply to all of the uneducated people in this comment section... but for anyone new seeing this video I will explain what happened so you don’t accuse this rider for drugging the horse or pushing the horse to its limits.
    Hickstead had an aortic rupture and they are ruptures in the arteries that give off blood clots so they block up the arteries so the blood circulation can’t carry on, and the rest of the blood can’t reach any of the other parts of the horse’s body, meaning the wrong messages are sent to its brain leading to a heart attack.
    Eric loved Hickstead (and still does) and said in an interview that he believes Hickstead knew something was wrong, so before going straight down on his side he sat on his hind legs to allow him time to get off and get to recovery.
    This horse was never drugged and never pushed too hard. He loved his job and lived for showjumping. He would do anything for his rider, just as his rider would do anything for him.

    • @lottiestanley7696
      @lottiestanley7696 Před 3 lety +7

      Thank you for giving more insight about the relationship between this rider and his horse. I know the horse wasn’t drugged or abused. You added a bit more for me about how he felt for the horse. I can’t imagine everything that went through the rider’s mind when the horse stopped and went down. My heart goes out to him
      I had a 14.2 Arabian that would go over a 4’ jump if I led him up to it, and just ‘clucked’ with my tongue, about two trotting steps and he was over it. He loved jumping. He also cleared a 4’6” spread jump in a show. The jumps were only supposed to be up to 4’... ooops.
      Again, thank you.

    • @deirdremorris9234
      @deirdremorris9234 Před 3 lety +9

      I dont know much about horses. All I saw was a rider losing his best friend. Very sad.

    • @Layla-ct2mx
      @Layla-ct2mx Před 3 lety +3

      @@lottiestanley7696 yeh I have a very very hot headed Arab and she bolts at jumps all the time 😂she loves jumping and may seem moody and angry to other people only because she was abused but she would never do anything to hurt anyone once she starts to trust you.
      No need to thank me about the information I’m just here for the people who call this abuse haha

    • @lottiestanley7696
      @lottiestanley7696 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Layla-ct2mx - That trust factor means an awful lot in what a horse will or won’t do... ❤️

    • @Layla-ct2mx
      @Layla-ct2mx Před 3 lety +1

      @@lottiestanley7696 thank you! I will have a watch of it now

  • @fury365
    @fury365 Před 4 měsíci +63

    People who come here from a short

    • @N0t_Am1k0
      @N0t_Am1k0 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Me

    • @NeonNights368
      @NeonNights368 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Me 😭

    • @shrxomii6526
      @shrxomii6526 Před 4 měsíci +3

      was it made by IzzyIdBit?? that’s where I came from

    • @sxmply._aura
      @sxmply._aura Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@shrxomii6526yeah, I also came from that edit

    • @AlphaRizzler-j
      @AlphaRizzler-j Před 4 měsíci +1

      Me.... are u a watching us? ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

  • @lelandharris9639
    @lelandharris9639 Před rokem +19

    For those who may not know Hickstead died of an Aortic Rupture, which is pretty much a tear in the main vein connecting to the heart which led to a fatal heartattack.
    R.I.P. Hickstead

  • @itselada
    @itselada Před 3 lety +269

    For everyone saying Eric didn't care about Hickstead and was okay with him dying - He loved him and was very broken when it happened. For him, Hickstead was a once in a lifetime horse, his friend. He was in shock when it happened. Thanks to him, there is a statue of Hickstead so he will never be forgotten. He cried a lot when he saw the statue.
    There was nothing he could do at that moment, it happened in matter of seconds.

    • @itselada
      @itselada Před 3 lety +24

      Also for those who thinks people do this for money. They don't. Having a horse alone is very expensive, even if that horse is 'just' a pet. Horses like Hickstead are basically athletes with their own teams of people who take care of them and trust me, you don't get pay enough to be able to say you do that for money. These people do that because they love horses.

    • @CharlieHorse4363
      @CharlieHorse4363 Před 3 lety +14

      @@itselada most of them - there’s still plenty of disgusting abuse particularly in the racing circles. But I agree with you

    • @mydyisgod
      @mydyisgod Před 3 lety +8

      I see so many people making judgement calls on this. And honestly, how can they judge, without being in the situation? They would do this or they would do that. They don’t have any clue what they would do. My heart goes out to the rider-I’m sure he still has a heavy heart. Fly high Hickstead.

    • @donnamillner9906
      @donnamillner9906 Před 3 lety +11

      When I took my paramedic class. I asked what do you do to help an aortic tear or aneurysm. My instructor said don’t play around onscene and he drew a truck with a donkey in it for haul a$$. He explained you have to be on the operating table when it happens to replace the blood loss. It’s kind of like the singer Selena. When she was shot in artery, the rapid heart beat from running and fear helped her bleed all her blood volume out. When they cracked her chest she had no blood left. Saline can help with restablishing volume, but it doesn’t carry oxygen. The horse was performing and his heart was beating fast and he bled out. It’s hard to watch. Even as the horse lost the ability to stand he still thought of his rider enough to back up and sit while he was collapsing. So sorry for Hickstead and Eric and everyone that loved the two together.

    • @debbiehogg8060
      @debbiehogg8060 Před 3 lety +2

      ELADA THOSE SAYING SUCH MEAN STUFF ARE JUST FULL OF HORSE SHIT. HE LOVED THAT HORSE. THE BOND THEY HAD HICKSTEAD IS JUMPING HIGH IN GODS GREEN PASTURES AWAITING ERIC TO REUNITE ONE DAY .SCREW THE HATERS

  • @WolfTwisted
    @WolfTwisted Před 3 lety +36

    I've fostered so many sick, terminally ill and old animals that I know when to recognize a heart attack.
    The poor guy didn't know what was happening, and tried to get his horse back on his feet.
    I know that devastation and shock, and horses are such a huge part of your life when you're a rider. My heart hurts knowing the pain and shock he must have been in.

    • @popscyclep8084
      @popscyclep8084 Před 3 lety +1

      The Poor Guy? Really?

    • @uglyeel2292
      @uglyeel2292 Před 3 lety +3

      Popscycle P yes, really

    • @WolfTwisted
      @WolfTwisted Před 3 lety +1

      @@popscyclep8084 What's wrong with my statement feel free to elaborate.

    • @Sirtristan31
      @Sirtristan31 Před 3 lety

      FYI, he didn’t die from a heart attack

    • @WolfTwisted
      @WolfTwisted Před 3 lety +1

      @@Sirtristan31 Feel free to elaborate

  • @Nyalbel
    @Nyalbel Před 2 lety +29

    Don't wanna be jumped on here... but Hickstead didn't die from a "heart attack". He died from an acute aortic rupture. He bled out on the inside. These kinds of deaths are fast...

  • @Curlygirl_lifestyle
    @Curlygirl_lifestyle Před 2 lety +15

    My horse died of a heart attack in the early hours of this morning. I had only had him 2 weeks and he was the sweetest most kindest horse I had ever met. He had so much of his life left and he wasn’t ready to go. I can’t tell you how much pain I am in and he will always be my miracle horse. RIP fire 😭😭🐎

  • @lpvideographyy
    @lpvideographyy Před 5 lety +701

    Hickstead was Lamaze’s best friend... I can’t even begin to imagine the heartbreak from losing your best friend...

    • @argalant
      @argalant Před 3 lety +14

      Isn t the rupture of the vein due to many injections...in order to travel n compete...

    • @tracker5849
      @tracker5849 Před 3 lety +66

      The only heartbreak these bastards suffered was the loss of all their precious money!!!!!!! The only one who suffered was that poor horse!!!!!!

    • @argalant
      @argalant Před 3 lety +24

      A rider it s attached to the horse a bit. But almost always it s just a mean to fullfill the ego and a business. For how much they love their horses are ready to exploit them competing, sell them when the good offer comes or before looses it s value because once old it s only an expense unless the horse had a super career. Horsy people are the most greedy and uncoherent and ready to exploit the so much beloved animals and people who works for them. Mainly are only rich spoiled selfish pratts. What you can expect...

    • @TsunauticusIV
      @TsunauticusIV Před 3 lety +8

      Yeah I’m sure it was rough on him. Now... Imagine losing over 20 best friends and your father all within a 4 month span. I don’t wanna be here anymore. 😔

    • @argalant
      @argalant Před 3 lety +3

      Sorry for you. But c mon you ve to honor them by living a proud life. You ve a team of angels backing you, you ll go when it s time for you until that live your life best you can even if it s hard, they all might be there watching what you do and how you react. Keep tight and go forward. All the best. Ciaoo

  • @darkdragonblood_3582
    @darkdragonblood_3582 Před 3 lety +220

    People in here really ran against a wall.... head first... without a helmet. Hickstead died because his aorta ruptured, not some sort of drug overdose or because he was overworked. You really can't do much to prevent something like this.

    • @hannahm147
      @hannahm147 Před 3 lety +4

      Remember folks: always wear a helmet when riding a horse!
      Sorry I couldn't help myself

    • @td6369
      @td6369 Před 3 lety

      How is it known Aorta ruptured

    • @martielottering5649
      @martielottering5649 Před 3 lety +1

      @@td6369 It's a genetic thing

    • @td6369
      @td6369 Před 3 lety

      @@hannahm147 As in a thoroughbred horse?? The particular breed??

    • @hannahm147
      @hannahm147 Před 3 lety +1

      @@td6369what?? No, just as in any horse. I just saw the comment about a helmet in a comment section about horses. My sleep deprived brain couldn't help itself

  • @gaybowser4023
    @gaybowser4023 Před 2 lety +40

    He had a prior genetical condition wich made his aorta easily tear up, but the owners didn't know, they discovered it with the autopsy wich was made cause of this sudden death. His leg shaked cause of a seizure. Don't blame the rider or the owner of Hickstead, they did nothing wrong, and they were heartbroken because of his death 💔
    R.I.P. legend

    • @windjager2177
      @windjager2177 Před 2 lety +4

      Exactly

    • @toeachitsown2050
      @toeachitsown2050 Před 2 lety +4

      Correct, except not a "seizure", the horse was already dead by that point and those convulsions are just post mortum electrical activity.

    • @toeachitsown2050
      @toeachitsown2050 Před rokem +3

      @Yummy Spaghetti Noodles yes, he was. Those were death throws. Have you ever seen death? Everyone does it. Its not a "seizure". Blood flow to the heart and brain ceased once his aneurysm burst, esp during vigorous activity.

    • @ReinKayomi
      @ReinKayomi Před rokem

      I am damn worried if the vegan nutheads will blame Hickstead's owner or rider

    • @kpina2081
      @kpina2081 Před rokem +1

      @@toeachitsown2050
      It can take a while to actually die; you're not dead the moment your heart stops beating.

  • @AngelCatBaby
    @AngelCatBaby Před 10 měsíci +13

    I’ve seen this before, something happens and there is NOTHING anyone can do except watch a brave and courageous animal succumbing to death. Eric couldn’t have done anything except what he did do, keeping the reins from chocking and tangling up on his legs.
    I had 2 cats which died in this way, their hearts gave out and burst inside, and they died before I could get them to the veterinarian….there was NOTHING i could have done, except watch and be their for them, both my cats died in my arms very quickly, in the same manner as this horse.
    RIP HICKSTEAD, may your courage and bravery be remembered and be rewarded in heaven. 👍❤️🙏🏼😇

  • @katewhitehouse4836
    @katewhitehouse4836 Před 3 lety +24

    I too, have had TWO horses who have had heart attacks. One while she was asleep in her stall overnight. The vet had been out the previous afternoon for a minor ailment. He came right over when we discovered her that morning. We were all in shock. There had been no sign the previous day of any heart problem. The necropsy (animal autopsy) showed an aortic rupture. Our vet told us that it was rare, but did happen. The second was my childhood pony that was 40 years old. The pony had colic, and the vet (not the same one, 17 years later) had been called to treat her. She was given a very small amount of Banamine, to ease her pain and to help relax her. The vet had gone to his truck to get his equipment to give her some mineral oil and warm water, common first step for what we both thought was a mild case. She was not trying to roll. Was not trying to lay down, was standing very quietly and had even just taken a small sip of water from her own water. I was petting her, talking to her, and within any warning at all, she suddenly collapsed at my feet, shaking just like poor Hickstead. I shouted to the vet, who immediately came back running, he took one look, listened to the heart with the stethoscope, and said it's a heart attack. He gave her an injection to try to ease the attack but it continued. We looked at each other and I Made the quick decision that I was not going to put the pony through any more treatment. I told him to euthanize my friend. It was very quick and humane. Of course the vet and I were both in shock. I cried. She had been my friend for well over twenty years at that point. Again, just like in humans, horses and ponies can and do have heart attacks, and just like people, they dont always survive due to age, or the severity of the damage to their heart. I will always miss my friends, its been many years now, but its something that can never be forgotten. Just remember that Hickstead was at his peak, and he had the best veterinary care possible to keep him in the best health possible. He was an elite athlete and his loss was and still is felt by his rider, his owner and his groom.

    • @tamjeedyunus3008
      @tamjeedyunus3008 Před měsícem

      my god why is this comment longer than the book of lord of the rings

  • @diego_fe
    @diego_fe Před 3 lety +150

    Ummm why are people saying that he didnt care what was happening to the horse, you can clearly tell he didnt understand what was going on, he was in shock. In case y'all havent figured this out on your time on earth, not everyone reacts the same in every situation... Sad this happened

    • @JengieElls
      @JengieElls Před 3 lety +10

      Yes plus you can’t like get in the way of a horse when they’re moving like that. He could get kicked very hard. Obviously he was surprised and wasn’t sure what to do. So sad.

    • @shirleymeador9956
      @shirleymeador9956 Před 3 lety +5

      Really.. people are so judgemental. I am sure the pressure of riding a course of that calibur and your horse collapsing on the ground was so heartbreaking for Eric.hugs and prayers sent to them both🐎🎶🐴

    • @dancingfilly7355
      @dancingfilly7355 Před rokem

      Obviously you didn’t notice that he was striking Hickstead’s face with the crop!!! Is that normal behavior when one is in shock???

    • @dacoolhorsekid
      @dacoolhorsekid Před rokem

      @@dancingfilly7355 He was trying to encourage him to stand up, there is something online about it.

    • @Qu1t3_A_S1n
      @Qu1t3_A_S1n Před 12 dny

      @@dancingfilly7355 where do you even see that 💀

  • @Greendelta0723
    @Greendelta0723 Před rokem +14

    The way hickstead even slowly layed down to not hurt Eric Lamaze (the rider) is the reason he has a heart of gold

    • @frank234561
      @frank234561 Před rokem +6

      I highly doubt the damn horse had that on its mind as it slowly died. The rider pushed it too hard. These competitions are not humane.

    • @Irish_Lass2024
      @Irish_Lass2024 Před rokem +1

      @@frank234561 Grow up! This isn't Disney. You really have no idea what you are talking about. Go do some research, learn something. You have no idea about horse jumping. In one of your above posts you couldn't even tell the difference between this and horse racing. Keep your ignorant judgmental comments to yourself. You show your ignorance.

    • @EquiArtistry
      @EquiArtistry Před rokem +1

      @@frank234561 Nope, Hickstead was born with a birth defect where his aorta was too small, the rupture could have happened anytime even when he wasn't working.
      The vets concluded it would've been impossible to spot without an autopsy and the rider refused to compete for several years after because he was so upset, really a sad story. (

  • @GreyGhostBreyers
    @GreyGhostBreyers Před rokem +10

    Hicksteed’s heartbreaking story just goes to show how everything about your life could go south in a matter of minutes.

  • @Amclaren2009
    @Amclaren2009 Před 3 lety +36

    It was an aortic rupture!
    Absolutely nothing about this horse competing would have caused or stopped this. This isn't the riders, trainers, breeders fault. It was just bad luck.
    This is comparable to and aortic dissection in humans. There is no way know it was going to happen and unless you are lucky enough to find it before it ruptures it is 100% fatal.

  • @martielottering5649
    @martielottering5649 Před 2 lety +42

    Everyone, this is for more information!
    Hickstead was born with a condition that he wasn't tested for back then, in the end causing his aortic rupture, which can happen without warning at any moment, Eric had no idea what was going on, he did the best he could at the moment without getting himself injured.
    Hickstead truly loved what he did, and he was also loved a lot, a statue was made for him to memorize what a amazing he was, he was truly loved by everyone involved, including fans.
    He wasn't pushed too hard or too far, this is just sadly life and how cruel it actually is.

  • @SunshineStablesOfficial
    @SunshineStablesOfficial Před 2 lety +14

    Imagine training and loving that horse for years and he just dies of a heart attack in front of you at a world cup. Thats horrifying to see you loving horse in the worst moment of time.

    • @RaizarYT
      @RaizarYT Před 2 lety +1

      The rider didn't even seem like he cared, he even tried to get the horse back on its feet

    • @MistressTexi
      @MistressTexi Před 2 lety +1

      @@RaizarYT It's better for their biggo horse-hearts for them to stand. It's also why they tend to sleep standing.. it wasn't lack of care, it's the, "oh shit, please no, get up, please be okay," of the moment.

    • @RaizarYT
      @RaizarYT Před rokem

      @@MistressTexi ah..I see.. Poor horse

  • @toeachitsown2050
    @toeachitsown2050 Před 2 lety +23

    I just want to point out that this was a very quick, nearly OR possibly painless death. The violent "seizure-like" movements at the end were just death throws. He was already dead by then. This horse had an aortic rupture, so it bled out internally. Because he was pushing himself and jumping, it was over even faster. He probably had no idea what was going on and had passed before he even had time to register it. Its very upsetting to watch, but looks more dramatic than it probably felt. Hope that makes some of you sleep better.

  • @hayleysheridan2886
    @hayleysheridan2886 Před 3 lety +61

    I think everyone is been extremely judgmental. This happened to someone at our yard the horse was fine then started to shake seconds before collapsing. He had seemed completely normal. Can you imagine this happening to your horse in front of a crowd?! You can see he is in shock it probably didn’t sink till afterwards. It was a rupture so odds are Hickstead felt normal till it happened. I don’t think anyone would want to lose their horse this way.

    • @janekiceniuk1578
      @janekiceniuk1578 Před 3 lety +1

      You are right about the rider. I didn't mean to be I judging him for doing nothing. I just noticed him tapping the horse in the head with his crop.
      I too knew someone who's horse had a heart attack while they were working cows. He backed off the cow & his horse just started shaking & then went down.
      It is very traumatic.

  • @bubbles3117
    @bubbles3117 Před 3 lety +26

    So for everyone getting big mouths and commenting shit: Hickstead had a ruptured aorta. There's no signs before it happens and it happens quickly. The second he went down was the second he wasn't able to be saved. Eric is tapping him on the head because he thought something else was going on and tried to get his attention to get hickstead back up his feet. When he realized the horse was having seizures he stepped back to let the vets do their work. Nothing could have prevented it and it happens to any animal and human alike. There's no cause.

  • @MubarakXD600
    @MubarakXD600 Před 4 měsíci +12

    I didn’t feel bad for him, I felt sorrowful. He sacrifices himself for the owner, what a legend.

  • @Brotherhood412
    @Brotherhood412 Před 2 lety +18

    I had read that an aortic rupture is very rare and all horses can suffer by this. They have no symptoms and it can happen any time. Even in the pasture.

    • @FancySassy80
      @FancySassy80 Před 2 lety +2

      My friend lost her horse on a trail ride due to one during a leisure gallop she ended up in the hospital as he collapsed during the gallop it was horrible. He want quick. Broke our hearts one minute we are all having fun the next tramatizibg experience

  • @ollieedwards4155
    @ollieedwards4155 Před 3 lety +35

    You need to educate yourself before you comment.
    Hickstead did not die due to being overworked or drugged up, there was a problem with his heart. A two second google search will tell you that.
    And for everyone saying “wow he’s just standing there watching his horse die”... I’ve never heard something so insensitive. His rider was in shock, and was confused when it happened. When he finally came to the realisation, Hickstead was seizing and it wasn’t the safest idea to go to him, as he could’ve been kicked. If you actually watch, you can him going to Hickstead and then backing up once the seizing starts.
    You guys need to realise Hickstead died of natural causes and that his owner has feelings, people are so insensitive nowadays. I hope something like this never happens to you.

    • @noemimonti3391
      @noemimonti3391 Před 3 lety +2

      Most people are so sensible with animals that everything you do is wrong. Even a gentle pat will be see as a bad thing soon. Many humans are bad yes,but not all. Every little thing is an abuse even if is not hurting the animal at all and even if the animal is good looking, healthy and happy;owners automatically become bad and "dOeSn'T dEsErve ThEyR PeT". Its ok being sensible but limits exists

    • @tamjeedyunus3008
      @tamjeedyunus3008 Před měsícem

      I’d agree with you, but then we’d both be wrong

  • @milagigante219
    @milagigante219 Před 3 lety +34

    Just a friendly reminder for all the people out there who are trashing on the sport. People domesticated horses almost 6 thousand years ago and we wouldn’t be as evolved as we are today if it weren’t for them. Also, these people think we “control” these horses when we ride them. Wrong. Horses are huge and powerful creatures capable of sayin NO, and there are plenty of videos out there of horses refusing to jump or even go because they don’t feel like it, and a good rider/trainer would understand that and not push them. If Hickstead decided ro run that course that day it was because he knew he could do it just as much as he probably liked jumping over those “high ass poles”. There are also videos of horses jumping courses without their riders if you wanna look them up.

    • @donwade_
      @donwade_ Před 3 lety +2

      An educated blm person, surprising

    • @jerseygirl4801
      @jerseygirl4801 Před 3 lety +3

      A horse shouldnt be pulled on the reigns that hard to where they are literally bug eyed and tongue flailing out.
      Its very sad what happened.
      Some people cant ride horses and shouldnt.
      Not saying this individual is. U
      But ive seen shit horse riders do shit things.
      I wonder what caused the heart attack though

    • @KrystahMoose
      @KrystahMoose Před 13 dny

      @@milagigante219 thank you! I've read so much crap about how evil owners and riders are and I'm thinking "um, couldn't the these size TON creatures just laugh at us and stomp us to oblivion, hence actually THEM controlling my US...?" Lol. And also, the eye isn't bulging , it's wide open due to a horse being alert, curious, or responding

  • @knull416
    @knull416 Před rokem +19

    This entire comment section is just full of idiots who have no knowledge of this. They see a horse fall and die and immediately conclude the horse was on drugs and was under stress and that the owner did not care.
    First off Hickstead did not use drugs, he was not under stress many horses like their jobs and the owner did care for Hickstead a lot, so much so that he wanted to quit after his horse died

  • @dipayangoon1721
    @dipayangoon1721 Před rokem +9

    Why was this recommended on my reels today 😭
    I cant Stop crying 😭
    RIP HICKSTEAD 💐

    • @tamjeedyunus3008
      @tamjeedyunus3008 Před měsícem

      Oh, please. Hickstead is probably galloping in greener pastures, not worried about your bedtime tears.

  • @abbyhowes5120
    @abbyhowes5120 Před 6 lety +1095

    Hats off to them because they did everything they could and acted quickly.R.I.P

    • @sophiaviolette2229
      @sophiaviolette2229 Před 4 lety +32

      Acted quickly my ass...

    • @hanmira
      @hanmira Před 3 lety +20

      @@sophiaviolette2229 then how should have acted

    • @chery6030
      @chery6030 Před 3 lety +19

      There is nothing you can do. You dont know it's a heart attack until a autopsy is performed

    • @ashleyespinoza852
      @ashleyespinoza852 Před 3 lety +41

      He was pushed way to hard you can see it in the horses eyes I’m a horse rider myself and I would never push my horse that hard

    • @lizzdoublez1128
      @lizzdoublez1128 Před 3 lety +28

      You can TELL when a horse is tired or not feeling well. Im sure the owner/rider knew the horse wasn't feeling well, hell you could see it in his eyes and face DURING the run. For fear of his horse he should never have competed or even stopped half way if he saw his horse was really not doing well. But these horses are DRILLED to compete. They are bread from birth to jump as high as possible, to run as hard as b possible, then they're trained, drilled till they're perfect and when they're having a bad day, they're beaten to perform. Forced, drilled to compete. Its why I hate racing too. Its sad and disgusting. The owners only care about how much money they bring in. If they don't bring in money, they're useless to them. So they're literally worked to death. Happens literally all the time.

  • @feathersong5838
    @feathersong5838 Před 3 lety +54

    For anyone who even thinks about blaming the rider, you wouldn't blame a parent because their child suddenly died of a heart attack doing gymnastics.

    • @juliaswezy4431
      @juliaswezy4431 Před 3 lety +4

      The thing is a child doing gymnastics is taking a risk on their own terms. They are (most likely). The gymnast is willing and intentional about the choice. I’m not saying it’s the riders fault: it isn’t. But this comparison is not good.

    • @chrishale1345
      @chrishale1345 Před 3 lety

      FeatherSong Arts yeah.

    • @malinbergvall
      @malinbergvall Před 3 lety +1

      @@juliaswezy4431 it's like 100 times easier to convince an unwilling child to do gymnastics than to get a horse to do something it doesn't want to.
      If a horse says no there's really nothing you can do about it except diplomacy and bribes. If the horse doesn't want to do something you can't make it do it, you can only try to make it change its mind.
      A kid can be forced to do most things by threatening their allowance /screen time /etc while a horse needs to be sweet talked into actually wanting to do what you ask for.
      As an example you could never get a horse to do boring chores.

    • @enoyreve4196
      @enoyreve4196 Před 3 lety

      @@juliaswezy4431 Believe me, if that horse didn't love jumping there is no way he would have made it to this level of competition.

  • @FelicitySmith-qj8kc
    @FelicitySmith-qj8kc Před 4 měsíci +16

    Cruel. I cry myself to sleep now.😭 R.I.P hickstead. You were an amazing soul.

    • @CutencoolYT
      @CutencoolYT Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hi

    • @tamjeedyunus3008
      @tamjeedyunus3008 Před měsícem

      Bet Hickstead's secretly relieved he doesn't have to listen to your bedtime sob stories anymore.

  • @Equestrian_Vids
    @Equestrian_Vids Před rokem +12

    I can't get over the way the Hicksted put his owner down, he truly has a heart of gold.
    Edit: Thankyou so much fore the 9 likesss!

    • @KrystahMoose
      @KrystahMoose Před 13 dny

      @@Equestrian_Vids 12! And thank you for pointing out his heart of gold, which I doubt he would have if Eric was so awful to him like all these other ppl suggested

  • @bellafitzpatrick9714
    @bellafitzpatrick9714 Před 7 lety +25

    As someone who's had a horse have a seizure in front of them I really hate everyone in the comments calling the rider cruel and uncaring. In that situation you kind of go into shock and you feel totally helpless especially when you care about the horse so much. Not only that but the violent kicking which my horse did as well is really dangerous so you're kind of at a loss as to how to help them without putting yourself in danger.

    • @notkevinbro5451
      @notkevinbro5451 Před 7 lety +4

      Bella Fitzpatrick he also tried to get the horse up which is the right thing to do since a horse will die if it can't get up. He also took the reins above the horses head so he wouldn't get them caught in his legs while he was having a seizure or something of that nature

  • @htimsylla
    @htimsylla Před 3 lety +39

    That poor baby ☹️
    And to all you guys getting mad at the rider for “not doing anything” sometimes people freeze up and don’t react like they normally would when bad things happen. It’s quite common. I’m sure he felt absolutely awful about what happened. Let’s not be so quick to judge people that we know nothing about.

    • @livewithmanon6443
      @livewithmanon6443 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah he tried to get the horse up but he would die anyway

    • @Lee-hp1wg
      @Lee-hp1wg Před 3 lety +2

      Truthfully, what do you do in that situation? He was trying to get him up. But in all honesty if I was riding and the horse suddenly fell over and started kicking with it’s legs I wouldn’t know what to do, other than comfort him and call a vet.

  • @ryuziorobux2043
    @ryuziorobux2043 Před 3 měsíci +8

    he breathed his last breath at the most beautiful moment in his life.

  • @chicken3940
    @chicken3940 Před měsícem +19

    Hard attacks do just happen without warning but rider showed no special bond or love for the horse. Hw just stepped back

    • @Gorlcaptain
      @Gorlcaptain Před měsícem +4

      Might have been in shock. I did the same for a moment when I found one of my pets in their last few moments.

    • @mrswoodbrooke
      @mrswoodbrooke Před měsícem +8

      He died from a rupured aorta, not heart attack and Eric stepped back out of his way. For all he knew Hickstead fell and he tried to get him back up. Quit being an uneducated jerk

    • @lauradorr6558
      @lauradorr6558 Před měsícem

      @@mrswoodbrooke how does that happen? It just happens by chance, not asking to be an ass, just asking so i know... I am so glad the rider stepped off...

    • @mrswoodbrooke
      @mrswoodbrooke Před měsícem

      @@lauradorr6558 Medical conditions. Make things like this bound to happen, whether Hick was being ridden, or in a stall. And Eric didnt step off, Hickstead fell so Eric fell off.

  • @amydavis4945
    @amydavis4945 Před 4 lety +56

    Note to all: Before leaving an ignorant comment about horse cruelty or riders/owners that don't care, etc... learn the FACTS of what happened HERE. Hickstead was an amazing horse, and probably the best Show Jumper of all time. Eric Lamaze (his owner) loved him very much and took EXCELLENT care of him. Hickstead loved doing what he did... in fact, he jumped his very best when he was in the show ring, in front of a crowd. In the Olympics in China, Hickstead and Eric won the individual gold medal and also the silver medal for the team event for Canada. Horses that don't like what they are doing don't win gruelling competitions like the olympics. Hickstead was incredibly well taken care of by an owner that loved him very much - not just some rider that used him up and threw him away. They were friends, they were a team, they took care of each other. On this day, there were NO signs that anything was wrong until seconds before Hickstead's aorta ruptured. It was NOT a heart attack caused by working the horse too hard. Like happens with humans sometimes, the aorta just ruptured and there was NOTHING anyone could do - and in fact, he was very likely dead before he hit the ground (the kicking and "spasms" seen are probably just the nervous system shutting down - the same way a chicken's legs can continue to convulse even minutes after it's head has been cut off). The people that ran into the arena to try and help did not know what had caused Hickstead to fall over and APPEAR to have a seizure... they thought they could just get him back on his feet and get him help he needed. They didn't know he was already dead. Eric stood there in complete shock... his brain unable to compute what his eyes were seeing... his best friend, laying there on the ground, dead.
    So please, people... stop saying this was another case of "horse abuse" or "cruelty" or that Eric didn't care his horse was dying, or any of that. It's just not true in this case. Hickstead LOVED to jump - or else he wouldn't have been so damn good at it. He was also so damn good at it because he was WELL CARED FOR and kept in tip-top condition by people that loved him.

    • @GKTraveller
      @GKTraveller  Před 4 lety +5

      I agree ... There was nothing he could do and he was definitely in shock!!

    • @graceposada296
      @graceposada296 Před 4 lety +3

      You can tell by the way this horse was even falling down in kind of a gentle way (cant find the right words to actually describe it) so that his owner wouldnt be harmed. Thats just amazing, I mean its like the horse cared for his owner even in his last seconds of life!

    • @ninasastri
      @ninasastri Před 4 lety

      Do you know what happened to the horse? Was he having an epileptic seizure. How incrredible sad... And how dangerous for the owner, too, if it had fallen on him. It looked like he took care that he let down the rider carefully. Oh so sad. My cat died of a heart attack..

    • @amydavis4945
      @amydavis4945 Před 4 lety

      @@ninasastri did you even read what I said? I explained exactly how Hickstead died. Please read my original comment that you replied to.

    • @ninasastri
      @ninasastri Před 4 lety

      @@amydavis4945 I did not catch the part abot the ruptured aorta. But I reread on wikipedia that this was the cause of death. Even if the Aorta ruptured it might have still been a seizure. Not sure about that.

  • @stephaniejohnson759
    @stephaniejohnson759 Před 4 lety +81

    Everyone on this abuse and neglect crap . Get over yourselves 👏👏👏 !! He came off and the horse literally had 10 to 20 seconds of life. The horse dropped and he got out of the way .. JUST LIKE ANY OF US WOULD DO. He took the reins over the head WHICH ONLY HALF OF US WOULD DO !!!!!!!! He waved his crop around to try and get him up JUST LIKE I BET YOU WOULD TRY TOO !! He took 5 ish to 10 seconds to analyze the situation LIKE A HUMAN DOES DO NATURALLY TO SEE HOW THEY CAN HELP !!!!! He looked to his crew for help JUST LIKE ANYONE OF US WOULD BE DOING IS BEGGING ANYONE TO COME AND HELP !!! By the time people were there they took the reins and undressed him and the horse was basically gone. I love how everyone judges because the horse acctually passed. Imagine if hickstead lived YOU WOULD ALL STILL ADMIRE HIM AND KOODOS FOR THAT ONE TIME HE SAVED HIS HORSE BLAH BLAH judgmental bitches ONLY because it didnt happen to YOU!

    • @saqqaraperkins6534
      @saqqaraperkins6534 Před 4 lety +4

      so true it is sad that it happened but the rider did the right thing and he stayed calm which would have helped the horse a little bit

    • @SpaceCadette7653
      @SpaceCadette7653 Před 4 lety +2

      On facts tho

    • @Olivia-ov6jg
      @Olivia-ov6jg Před 4 lety +2

      EXACTLY. The whole situation was horrible and I loved Hickstead so much but no one would have been able to do anything. He horse blew a main artery in its heart and was internally bleeding. The horse was already gone when it laid down. People are so stupid for thinking this was the riders fault because it wasn’t. No one would have been able or do anything in this situation. He did the right thing

    • @tamjeedyunus3008
      @tamjeedyunus3008 Před měsícem

      Your words are like a mosquito buzzing in my ear-annoying and easily swatted away

    • @tamjeedyunus3008
      @tamjeedyunus3008 Před měsícem

      too bad i didn't even liked horses anyway yet i'm still watching the comments

  • @toeachitsown2050
    @toeachitsown2050 Před 2 lety +11

    It was actually a ruptured aortic anneurysm. The horse clearly had an anneurysm that was unkown. It is not from the sport itself, but the rupture was probably triggered by the increased blood pressure with exercise. Its a fluke thing.

  • @kayvogue6170
    @kayvogue6170 Před rokem +11

    I just found this out today and this is heartbreaking

  • @cheryl_the_horsechick
    @cheryl_the_horsechick Před 3 lety +25

    Nothing you could do. Horse was not stressed. I rode endurance. Never saw that before. 🐴🌈 god bless him he’s galloping in heaven.

  • @sweettt321
    @sweettt321 Před 4 lety +39

    People are saying this is animal abuse because he tried to get the horse to stand. That's what you do. I'm not the best to explain, but when a horse falls you get it to stand up to see if anything's wrong. If the horse hadn't shown any symptoms of something being wrong then there was no way anyone would know that he was dying. (Also, the owner was probably in shock & confused. There was nothing he could do but stand by while they tried to help the horse) It's not fucking animal abuse. Get over yourselves

    • @sarahcote4724
      @sarahcote4724 Před 4 lety

      The rider probably isn't even the owner, owners rarely ride top level

  • @_zer05ive
    @_zer05ive Před rokem +21

    POV: A bunch of smart people who become a horse expert from a 30 seconds clip concluded Hickstead was abused.

    • @Zoe_equine
      @Zoe_equine Před rokem

      Fr like stfu it was an aortic rupture

    • @dithdc7973
      @dithdc7973 Před rokem

      WHAT?!!?? HOW?! (sorry my phone is broken so im using my moms)

    • @h.g.eventing
      @h.g.eventing Před rokem

      Hickstead was not ABUSED!!!!!!!!! HE DIED DO TO A HEART ATTACK!!!!!

    • @moonwatcher4047
      @moonwatcher4047 Před rokem +2

      AMEN. It was an aortic rupture. The owner couldn't do a damn thing. Everyone saying the owner is horrible or doesn't give a fuck about the horse clearly hans't done a rudimentary google search or even tried looking for an interview with the rider.

    • @Kirinn06
      @Kirinn06 Před rokem

      YALL THIS COMMENT IS A JOKE 😂😂😂

  • @_.jul3s._
    @_.jul3s._ Před 2 lety +11

    You can see the worry in Eric's body language.

  • @akibawolfproductions
    @akibawolfproductions Před 3 lety +58

    For the idiots who don't know HOW this horse died; On November 6, 2011, at a competition in Verona, Italy, Hickstead collapsed shortly after finishing a round and died of an aortic rupture.
    Aortic rupture is the rupture or breakage of the aorta, the largest artery in the body. Aortic rupture is a rare, extremely dangerous condition. The most common cause is an abdominal aortic aneurysm that has ruptured spontaneously.
    Blood surges through the tear, causing the inner and middle layers of the aorta to separate (dissect).
    Hickstead was DEAD the second he hit the damn ground, so felicias, SIT THE HELL DOWN! Eric LOVED this horse but even I, a person whose been around horses all her life, would NEVER go near a thrashing animal! A kick like that could of broken bones or worse! Also there WAS a vet on site! That is FEI LAW! And the vet checked Hickstead over and found NOTHING wrong! These tears can happen SUDDENLY and with NO WARNING.
    So before you judge Eric, do your damn research!

    • @awarose
      @awarose Před 3 lety +8

      Exactly + aortic rupture can happen anytime even when a horse just rests in the paddock or in the stable and most often just comes out of nowhere not showing any previous problems

    • @Pepperkit
      @Pepperkit Před 3 lety +5

      Legit a swing of the legs or even the head could harm a human severely. Even accidental head smacks hurt pretty bad. Had my friends horse turn and look at me and I leaned in right as she done that and boy did it hurt! Both where okay xD I think she was more confused for my reaction LOL.

    • @johngummer6965
      @johngummer6965 Před 3 lety +5

      Good explanation to those who automatically jump to conclusions . Animals can die anytime , anywhere , from anything , same as their human counterparts . Was just it's time , plain & simple . Sorry for the loss .

    • @riivattu2869
      @riivattu2869 Před 3 lety

      While it’s nice you ”did some research” by copying the wikipedia page here, you should do more research as it has been found that especially in older horses aortic ruptures can accure after high blood pressure activity, when the weaker parts of aorta give in. Not saying it’s his fault just stating the fact that sport horses are at risk of heart failure among other complications

    • @lottiestanley7696
      @lottiestanley7696 Před 3 lety +1

      @@riivattu2869 - ALL horses are at risk of heart and/or circulatory failures, at any age, and/or while doing nothing. My horse had a slight heart murmur pointed out to me when he was a young horse, around 7. He was used for everything from show jumping, cattle roundups, dressage... you name it he probably did it. He died at age 24... of a major twisted intestine, discovered too late to do anything to save him 😢

  • @heymoma700
    @heymoma700 Před 3 lety +48

    The day hickstead died he didn’t even jump he entered the arena to start his course and collapsed even before starting. Eric Lamaze loved this horse more than any other. A ruptured aorta means death. My grandma had one she died. It’s just life when it ruptures it’s to late. My grandma felt bad the day she died and it ruptured.. so he could do nothing except endangering his own life by getting closer. It’s possible that the medics also told him to not get close to the horse because it’s dangerous.

  • @abrent06pogi
    @abrent06pogi Před 3 měsíci +13

    The legend that died he was in heaven now
    👇 RIP hicstead

  • @Harryplaysvr
    @Harryplaysvr Před měsícem +5

    The way hickstead looked at him the whole time as if he was saying “I’m going to die”

  • @eleanorleeson4457
    @eleanorleeson4457 Před 7 lety +15

    Okay so, Hickstead was arguably the best horse in the world and in his prime. He was not being pushed past his limit. He had competed in many other bigger competitions than this. Also, if a horse doesn't want to jump, it won't jump. It's a lot bigger than us and if it decided "nah, not today," it simply won't jump. It's happened in a lot of competitions before to many high level riders. Aortic Aneurysm cannot be easily detected and when it hits, cannot be stopped and rarely can be predicted. For all of you highly qualified vets on here, back up your opinions with sources, please. It's not a cruel sport. These horses get cared for better than I care for myself. Plenty to eat, the best facilities in the world, grooming, the best equipment, outstanding riders, and amazing places to live. Every need they have is taken care of. Hickstead, you are missed from every corner of the equine globe.

    • @lucyyeates1509
      @lucyyeates1509 Před 7 lety +2

      Thank you!!! Someone said it!!! The rider was amazing, all these stupid comments are annoying me. What's the rider supposed to do when your horse has just dropped to the floor and starts shaking. Everyone thought it was just a roll, hence the short silence. The riders clearly in shock!!

    • @barbaracollins5605
      @barbaracollins5605 Před 6 lety

      Eleanor Leeson brute

    • @citoyen09
      @citoyen09 Před 6 lety +1

      Julie Keller: That's ridiculous. I've been around horses now for five decades. I'm guessing you've never worked with top jumpers. If they don't want to jump, they won't jump. Heaven knows there are enough videos on youtube of horses saying "no, not today."

    • @citoyen09
      @citoyen09 Před 6 lety +1

      OK, so obviously you won't recognize that there are many thousands of videos on youtube of horses refusing to jump. You made a ridiculous claim: "If you abuse a horse enough it will do whatever you ask of it." which can only come from someone with limited experience. I just bought an event horse. In one month I've learned that he seems willing to jump everything. But you know what he tells me EVERY single time we ride? "Don't get in my way". Seriously. If I try to direct him, control his strides, clamp my legs or, heaven forbid, use my crop, HE GETS UPSET AND WE MAKE MISTAKES. If I point him at a fence and leave him alone, he flies. Ditches, banks, water, everything. He locks on a fence and goes. I can't tell you how many horses I've ridden like this - at nationally recognized events. I doubt you've ever, ever sat on a talented horse that's been bred for its job. Pressure and release? Sure. The release can come in the form of a buck and a rear. Good riders know that. And Lamaze is one of the best.

  • @shannonorielly8780
    @shannonorielly8780 Před 3 lety +40

    I love horses, but I'm with the rider on this one. He's completely confused and wondering what the fuck is happening!? There is nothing he could have done there's nothing anyone could have done. Facts. 🇨🇦🕊

  • @kropotkinnie
    @kropotkinnie Před rokem +18

    To all the animal activists in the comments, as a vegan and animal rights activist myself who advocates for ethical riding, this is NOT the video to be complaining about. Yeah, there was some tight rein riding which I'm not a fan of seeing, but the death here wasn't from riding, it was a genetic defect in this horse which unfortunately was exacerbated by exercise. Had Hickstead been out in field running around, this same thing would have happened. His heart attack was effectively set as destiny if he was to live his life not locked in a stall; it's just horrific that it happened here of all places. This rider also handled the situation well and had significant trauma from seeing his horse die like this, and turned to drinking while contemplating leaving competition forever. It was incredibly hard on him.
    There are plenty of other riding videos out there where the horse actually does die due to the actions of the rider, or is put through extreme abuse. Those videos need your comments far more than this one. Also, advocating people stop riding horses at all is a ridiculous position -- it's not something you can logically achieve in a world like this, so stop with such an extreme rejection of equestrianism and instead focus on holding riders accountable to improve the lifestyle. For instance, instead of spamming useless "don't ride horses" comments that no rider would listen to, try to educate riders on equine pain faces, fear faces, the negatives of fear and pressure based training, and the positives of positive reinforcement. Spend your time telling riders to allow their horses 24/7 pasture boarding with other equines, and to research less restrictive tack. Tell equestrians to learn to accept "no" as a first and final answer from their horse and to respect the life and autonomy of their horse outside of riding. All these things will ACTUALLY make for happier, healthier horses, even if it's not your "perfect" ideal, when the advocacy you're doing now literally achieves nothing other than making anyone outside of animal advocacy think you're a lunatic extremist and ignore any valid points you might have.
    Seriously y'all. There are better ways to earn animals more liberty and happiness, and if you actually care about the animals rather than virtue signalling, you should be trying to advocate for good steps in an often bad industry, instead of setting an impossible goal and getting mad when such a drastic first step is never achieved. Utopia is built brick by brick, not overnight.

    • @RachaelClag
      @RachaelClag Před rokem

      👏 Well said!! I just hope the idiots commenting about cruelty have the intelligence to read and comprehend your comment!

    • @horse_addictforlife_ECuestrian
      @horse_addictforlife_ECuestrian Před rokem +1

      Totally agree with you!! I've been waiting for that one person who would write some sense into people's heads!!! As a member of the equestrian community, I am deeply ashamed of those riders who excessively whip their horses unnecessarily, and of soring practices and Rollkur in dressage, etc. But to all those people who think that showjumping is an attempt to "ride a horse to death", they are absolute idiots.

    • @user-cc6nb5th6x
      @user-cc6nb5th6x Před 10 měsíci

      I just trail ride, and have a blast. Also bitless. It's a real bonding experience.

  • @user-rl4uy6dq8k
    @user-rl4uy6dq8k Před 6 dny +5

    Finally someone who cares about of their horse and not only cares about the winning

  • @caroline-jz8np
    @caroline-jz8np Před 3 lety +16

    just imagine going to a big show, having a horse that you have a huge bond with, that you’ve been practicing with years for this. and then, they just have a heart attack. that sounds like the saddest thing for me

    • @vintageryn7217
      @vintageryn7217 Před 3 lety

      I’m sure it was. The guy was apparently devastated. I’m pretty sure he said that after that he thought about retiring because it affected him so much.

    • @stephanienewhouse2056
      @stephanienewhouse2056 Před 3 lety

      @@vintageryn7217 Unfortunately, his brain tumor decided that for him www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/eric-lamaze-brain-tumour-1.5144875#:~:text=Canadian%20Olympic%20show%20jumping%20champion%20Eric%20Lamaze%20has,the%20people%20around%20me%2C%22%20Lamaze%20told%20RMC%20Sport.

    • @vintageryn7217
      @vintageryn7217 Před 3 lety

      @@stephanienewhouse2056 really? This: www.google.com/amp/s/www.eurosport.com/equestrian/eric-lamaze-welcomes-another-olympic-hopeful-in-his-stables_sto7792215/story-amp.shtml says he’s still going strong and competing? Apparently planning on the 2021 Olympics

    • @stephanienewhouse2056
      @stephanienewhouse2056 Před 3 lety

      @@vintageryn7217 He's back now, but had a real tough couple of years while the tumor was being treated.

  • @kimkirkby882
    @kimkirkby882 Před 5 lety +27

    Trust and believe these equine athletes get better medical care than most people. They're priceless and treated that way. Galloping in that big green pasture in the sky now. Peace be with you big guy.

  • @sophieking572
    @sophieking572 Před 2 lety +9

    Losing a horse is devastating. But to lose a horse like this... I am lost for words

  • @Hailey_Ezell0216
    @Hailey_Ezell0216 Před rokem +9

    He didn’t have a heart attack. He had a aortic Rupture😢 He had a heart of gold 🏅 ❤️

  • @judyheim6998
    @judyheim6998 Před 3 lety +28

    I can guarantee that horse had an autopsy and intensive blood tests. These events are heavily regulated these dats and as public as this death was there is no way it was not heavily investigated. Common sense people.

  • @DestinyDW
    @DestinyDW Před 6 lety +24

    Such a good horse. He did what his owner asked right up till the end and even while he was losing controle of his body he tried not to hurt any of his humans. God rest his sole.

  • @flashcat6917
    @flashcat6917 Před rokem +20

    everyone's comment is recent, everyone came from that youtube short

  • @cloedythemedium
    @cloedythemedium Před 7 měsíci +16

    The horse had a heart disease that weren't seen beforehand by the vets, it was a ticking time bomb. The one heart atery busted and he sadly did bleeding from the inside out and having a seizure too. 😢 The autopsy showed he had a health issue with his heart that went not detected by the vets.

    • @2005Kohl
      @2005Kohl Před 7 měsíci +3

      Whatever....how could they not know be real

    • @lettherebedragons8885
      @lettherebedragons8885 Před 6 měsíci +4

      You can't see Aorta weaknesses. No symptoms, precautions, vaccines, nothing. It happens to All breeds, all ages. The horse just Drops dead from one Moment to another...

    • @cloedythemedium
      @cloedythemedium Před 6 měsíci

      @@2005Kohl Well, can been for many reasons. The vets did overseeing it. Happens to humans too.

    • @2005Kohl
      @2005Kohl Před 6 měsíci

      HOw is it possible for a horse doing this extremely strenuous type of competition not to have been thoroughly checked especially the heart when they are worked up to and beyond extreme. THere is no need for these kind of over the top jumps, etc.in abusive competitions except for the MONEY and PRESTIGE of the owner @@cloedythemedium

    • @Pro3110
      @Pro3110 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@2005Kohl Ah, the ignorance abounds. First, Hickstead was checked two to three times a week by a vet to make sure he was kept in top condition. Aortic ruptures happen spontaneously, with no clear reason why they happen. I remember it happening to a boy on another school's basketball team back in high school. That was thirty years ago, and they still don't know why they happen. Secondly, these jumps, though they are tall, are far from being "over the top" and nowhere near being "beyond extreme". This is not an abusive competition, as all abuse results in immediate disqualification b the FEI. (You ought to see their rulebook. I just printed off 72 pages of rules to follow when I start with my own horse next year.) As far as it being "for the money", the riders in this competition requested that it be discontinued, and they were already on the third day! They honored the riders' request, and no one won any money, at all. They also renamed this Grand Prix after Hickstead in his honor.

  • @alicesummers9380
    @alicesummers9380 Před 3 lety +28

    When your a rider you get such a good bond with the horse it must have been so hard for the rider to under take may it Rest In Peace

  • @jenrichardson416
    @jenrichardson416 Před 7 lety +18

    That is so sad. I feel bad for the rider. You can tell he stood there in shock. Oh, and for the people that said he whipped the horse, not quite. That is a riding crop and he didn't hit the horse. He did the correct thing. He got out of the way and let the professionals handle the situation.

  • @ThatBeginnerEquestrian
    @ThatBeginnerEquestrian Před rokem +14

    Poor baby just couldn’t handle it anymore. He tried not to hurt anyone. Rest In Peace sweetheart

    • @kpina2081
      @kpina2081 Před rokem +1

      He died because of an aortic rupture - he was predisposed to it genetically, it was bound to happen sooner or later.

    • @ThatBeginnerEquestrian
      @ThatBeginnerEquestrian Před rokem +1

      @@kpina2081 i know i just feel bad

  • @elpllc7541
    @elpllc7541 Před rokem +11

    That was a seizure due to hypoxia. The heart had already stopped beating most likely. There’s nothing that could be done to save this animal. Cardiovascular collapse.

    • @abbiewhitehead8204
      @abbiewhitehead8204 Před rokem +3

      That horse was in the process of dying from the second of his first sidestep. He had a heart attack. The final stages are not pretty to watch. Horrifying. That was a seizure due to hypoxia. The horse was not aware of what was happening.

  • @marikikii
    @marikikii Před 3 lety +19

    The fact that he didnt pushed him too much to get up could mean that he cares about his horse.
    Stop saying "omg this is rude to the animal omggg"
    How the fuck is it rude compared to some horses that are killed right after their carreer of horse racing?? How? ?

    • @chloegallardo603
      @chloegallardo603 Před 3 lety

      Right on the track too

    • @marikikii
      @marikikii Před 3 lety

      @@chloegallardo603 yeah..

    • @gerrycoleman7290
      @gerrycoleman7290 Před 3 lety +1

      So, you are trying to divert attention one form of abuse by pointing to another. Classic ignorance and denial.

    • @marikikii
      @marikikii Před 3 lety +3

      @@gerrycoleman7290 alright but do you know that horses can refuse a jump? This was one real duo and his horse was litteraly his best Friend.
      Tell me where is the animal abuse in this vid please

    • @gerrycoleman7290
      @gerrycoleman7290 Před 3 lety +1

      @@marikikii The abuse is act of competitive jumping on a regular basis. Most of the horse's weight is forward. Then you ask the horse to jump. Now there is huge pressures on joints, ligaments, and tendons when hitting the ground from those heights.

  • @RevyTwoHands2K11
    @RevyTwoHands2K11 Před 5 lety +23

    For all the assholes saying 'why is he just standing there?' and the like, this man is in complete shock. The same happened to me with my horse and I just froze. It's like time just stops, He's looking for support from the event crew. You can never forecast when something like this is going to happen. The horse wasn't even jumping. He was going in to do his round and then this happens. These horses are these people's friends, but also their bread and butter. Stop being pricks.

  • @Mexxsi
    @Mexxsi Před 14 dny +6

    Holy these people are unintelligent.The horse was NOT and never was abused by anyone.In fact these horses were taken great care of.What happened was just unfortunate and can happen to every horse.

  • @Alieslife1
    @Alieslife1 Před rokem +11

    Me just learning about his death yesterday

  • @LilBirdies88
    @LilBirdies88 Před 3 lety +25

    There's some ignorant ass comments on this video. The horse died of an aortic rupture. Those are completely unpredictable and can happen to any animal or person. He was DEVASTATED about the horse's death and got out of the way for vets to help him.

  • @illllllllllllllll2008
    @illllllllllllllll2008 Před 6 lety +26

    guysssguyssssguysssss the horse burst its aorta it has NOTHING to do with jumping or extreme training that you say. These horses are trained for months befor and are in very and i mean very good shape they have no problem jumping these types of courses. An aorta can break at any minute, it can happen in the stall, training outside whatever just in this case it happend in "the ring" so to say. rest in peace Hickstead

  • @Thebeezzkneezz.
    @Thebeezzkneezz. Před rokem +6

    I'm choking up over here.. never heard of this sweet boy until today and I'm sobbing

  • @kuroryuu6177
    @kuroryuu6177 Před rokem +17

    the horse who died on the field is the only one recognise and build a statue for him, but the rest who died due to this sports aren't even recognise cus they didn't die infront of the camera

    • @h.g.eventing
      @h.g.eventing Před rokem +1

      I half agree with you because yes, lots of horses aren’t recognized for their sacrifice but on the other hand Hickstead was a legend and he deserves to be celebrated. R.I.P Hickstead❤️🙏🏻

    • @speedpaints.safiyah
      @speedpaints.safiyah Před rokem +5

      Half tru but Hickstead was an Exceptional horse and this performance was better than any other, He wasn't an ordinary horse in the field of Showjumping, Just like secretariat in horse racing. All horses are given respect when passing but Hickstead.. That was last a final show, and he died by a heart attack as well

  • @ForeverBrooklyn
    @ForeverBrooklyn Před 2 lety +37

    To the people in the comments who are saying Lamaze didn’t try to help:
    First of all, you cannot help a horse who is having a heart attack for multiple reasons
    • A heart attack cannot be prevented in any way if it’s already happening.
    • Lamaze is not a professionally trained veterinarian, so he didn’t have a clue what to do; he was also in shock because he didn’t know what was happening to his horse.
    • Hickstead could’ve had this heart attack even while in his stable or wherever he is kept while not working, competing did not cause his death.
    • Lamaze couldn’t get near Hickstead to help him because of his thrashing around, the rider would get injured.
    • Lastly, Hickstead was most likely going to pass away anyway. There was nothing they could do to save him because whenever an animal or person has a terrible heart attack like that, they’d be dead within seconds.

    • @ponylovermadden4560
      @ponylovermadden4560 Před 2 lety +5

      Horses have HEART ATTACKS due to OVER TRAINING, being asked to do way too much. Ya conveniently left that part out. Go read up on how Bob Baffert killed Medina's Spirit who won the Kentucky Derby due to OVER TRAINING. Baffert has killed over 28 horses training them too hard. SOME attacks CAN be prevented by not PUSHING these poor creatures to over work themselves. Good God!!! This horse did NOT suddenly have a heart attack for NO REASON.

    • @ForeverBrooklyn
      @ForeverBrooklyn Před 2 lety +6

      @@ponylovermadden4560 Please do your research before yelling at me, thanks. :)

    • @sniperdezigns5396
      @sniperdezigns5396 Před 2 lety

      Heart attacks have been reversed for 1000s of yrs, just mainstream dosent tell you nor do docs :)

    • @kushkots7518
      @kushkots7518 Před 2 lety +5

      That horse was fucking ran to death, anyone who owns horses can sit and watch and see several times the horse was not only exhausted but completely stressed out, if you can sit here and say that what happened there was natural and not the prick riders fault, you should be riden to death, these shows put horses through hell for a fucking ribbon or check, I raise horses specifically to keep them out of the hands of people like him, I've rode all my horses never once have they had a heart attack and hitting him on top of the head isn't a very good way to comfort a dying horse, iv had horses fall and I was there on the ground until they were back on their feet, that poor horse was trained to jump until his fucking heart exploded, your just as bad as the bitch riding him

    • @ForeverBrooklyn
      @ForeverBrooklyn Před 2 lety +4

      Wow, who hurt you? You’re taking my comment WAY too far. Not to talk about me, but I’m a pretty decent rider. You don’t even know me and to assume I am a bad person just because of my opinion, thats hilarious. Grow up and realize that not everyone is going to agree with you.

  • @isabellagough3143
    @isabellagough3143 Před 4 lety +61

    it’s so sad because from the start of the video his eyes are white and he doesn’t look right like normal and he tries so hard to get around the course for the owner

    • @gunyoungburg7315
      @gunyoungburg7315 Před 4 lety +7

      he was fine but when he finished the biggest blood vessel in his heart burst open and he was internally bleeding at very high speeds no one can survive that it's impossible...

  • @payntpot7623
    @payntpot7623 Před rokem +15

    This could happen to anyone who ever rides a horse, be it in a competition, training, out hacking or just riding in the paddock at home. There is an old farming saying: If you have livestock; you have dead stock. Even some humans have been known to die unexpectedly.
    He died doing what he loved, how many of us will be so lucky in our own demise?

  • @Asthetic_ellarose
    @Asthetic_ellarose Před 2 lety +9

    He has a heart of gold keeping his rider safe

  • @lemon_cat1617
    @lemon_cat1617 Před 3 lety +13

    I love how you can immediately see him getting the reigns out of the way so that the horse doesn't hurt it's self even more

  • @milesthecat17
    @milesthecat17 Před 3 lety +20

    Why is this in everyone’s recommendations today

  • @RosemaryMajorwaterSSO
    @RosemaryMajorwaterSSO Před 8 měsíci +16

    Incorrect- he died from an Aortic Rupture, not a heart attack

    • @Audreynash13578
      @Audreynash13578 Před 8 měsíci

      What’s a aortic rupture?

    • @RosemaryMajorwaterSSO
      @RosemaryMajorwaterSSO Před 8 měsíci

      @@Audreynash13578 I don’t know the exact definition but it’s when one part of your body (I forget which) ruptures and stuff is spread all over your body, causing you to die in a matter of time. Don’t quote me on that; look it up for a full definition

    • @falcon8385
      @falcon8385 Před 8 měsíci

      Looks like an epileptic fit

    • @RosemaryMajorwaterSSO
      @RosemaryMajorwaterSSO Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@falcon8385 I promise you it’s an Aortic Rupture, look it up and it will say that

    • @riinasorvali6348
      @riinasorvali6348 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@Audreynash13578 aorta is a big blood vein that is your main blood pump. It supplies your smaller veins with blood, all over body. It also moves important stuff like oxygen through blood. Aortic rupture is when that big vein suptures, breaks down or "explodes". In quatation marks bc its not really an explosion. Hard to say what exactly happened in this case. Aorta's wall aka veins walls usually pop when theres a foreign object causing a rupture, high bloodpressure that builds up in bad spot or a small blockage that causes blood to collect on one spot, scretching the veins walls.

  • @sabrina1997
    @sabrina1997 Před rokem +10

    I literally just saw this on my for you page I feel so bad

  • @angelsso6317
    @angelsso6317 Před 3 lety +44

    I have nothing to say except it was not the riders fault nor the horses fault nature decided to make a choice but it was a sad one you can tell the rider was pretty upset the reason why he may of not done anything because it went into shock...I understand what people are saying but if a human lost a child from a heart attack none of the parents are to blame it's just how nature works sadly...R.I.P you majestic beast may you jump your way into heaven your owner will join you soon and hell make peace with you R.I.P you beautiful gelding🥰🐴

  • @eivina3364
    @eivina3364 Před 3 lety +43

    when some people here arent even equestrians and think that pulling on the horse's mouth too hard caused this.

    • @lozzab102
      @lozzab102 Před 3 lety +5

      I mean, doesn't excuse the fact on how hard he was pulling the reins..

    • @itsallgood4093
      @itsallgood4093 Před 3 lety +4

      That is pretty ridiculous that they think that.

    • @heymoma700
      @heymoma700 Před 3 lety +1

      Btw he had the attack before evening jumping so. He was going to do his course and he collapsed before the start

    • @da55470
      @da55470 Před 3 lety

      Haha 😂

    • @Lunaish03
      @Lunaish03 Před 3 lety

      I hate how hard some people pull on the reins. It's unnecessary and you can't tell me doesn't hurt. I've seen it actually make their mouths bleed. But it doesn't do this to a horse. This could have happened for a number of reasons, but not because of a bit.

  • @jessicasheldon2899
    @jessicasheldon2899 Před 2 měsíci +9

    this horse did not deserve to die. fly high hickstead 🕊️

  • @erirocha2302
    @erirocha2302 Před měsícem +5

    Hickstead was a great horse to Eric. In the moment hickstead fell, I had a feeling that he fell, then he shook. This was very painful to watch. I barely got though it. Rest In Peace hickstead.

  • @jobond3317
    @jobond3317 Před 3 lety +30

    That would had been heartbreaking and it was not animal cruelty. These horses are so well cared for. And believe it or not, some enjoy jumping. The rider would have been devastated thinking what could I had done to stop this. My heart goes out to him and all there helping,tragic

    • @tracker5849
      @tracker5849 Před 3 lety +1

      The only thing cared for is the wallet$$$$$$$$$$$$ they belong in prison!!!!!

  • @Julia-rc2mc
    @Julia-rc2mc Před 3 lety +30

    This could have happened anywhere. There are so many ignorant people in this comment section. Hickstead died of acute aortic rupture, which is fucking rare. The rider was in shock and probably had never seen something like this before. Equestrians were taught to get the horse to stand up, if they lay down due to a colic, to prevent them from rolling and twisting their intestines (->probably does not happen, the twist happened probably before the rolling). The horse had a condition and as sad as it is, nothing could have done to prevent him from dying. It could have happened anywhere. The jumping and eventing was not the cause of his death. Even if they had detected his condition early and retired him, he would have died of aortic rupture.

  • @Xanthe_w
    @Xanthe_w Před rokem +8

    I can’t imagine how he felt having to just stand there as his horse died that’s so heartbreaking 💔 rip

  • @tinakralj79
    @tinakralj79 Před rokem +9

    This guy was a total legend. But now... He's jumping over the clouds. Rest in peace dear legend🙏🕊

  • @Abhainn.1234
    @Abhainn.1234 Před 7 lety +22

    RIP To one of the greatest horses in the known world, Hickstead.
    We will remember you forever
    And let your wings carry you to the heavens
    ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

  • @reevesaxe7348
    @reevesaxe7348 Před 3 lety +34

    I would love to say a few things regarding this situation and how it was felt with,
    1. This same thing could have happened to a horse on a pasture at any point in time! This man was not FORCING a 1000 pound animal to jump, and unless YOU have tried to force an animal to jump when they don’t want to, don’t tell me otherwise. Even if you forced a horse to jump, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THIS LEVEL, because they will NOT be good at it!
    2. These horses are treated like olympic athletes! Frequent vets checks, some of the best farriers, chiropractic treatments. Now this is going to sound bad, but yeah SOME of these riders may not care as much about their horses as they should, but they do care about the thousands of dollars that horse is worth. (MOST DECENT PEOPLE DO CARE ABOUT THE HORSE)
    3. THAT MAN JUST WATCHED HOS HORSE DIE IN FRONT OF HIM PEOPLE!! No, he did not do anything because he did not know what to do. It is devastating to watch your horse die, and I’ve been there. Not everyone can be quick to react when someone important is dying in front of them, especially at a moment like that.
    The horse was having a seizure due to an event that could have happened to any other horse. It was delt with appropriately, and any other method could have actually risked injury to a person or risk worsening the horses condition! I am sick and tired of people saying that these horses are forced to jump and that the riders use drugs. Yeah, some riders do use drugs, but it’s become a go to excuse for all these “animal rights” people who have probably never even jumped a horse. I CARE about my horses greatly, and because of that, my horses trust me and will walk through fire for me.

    • @R3aperqueen420
      @R3aperqueen420 Před 3 lety +1

      Precisely. Thank you. Non equestrian ppl have no clue what kind of love and trust goes into building a relationship with horses.

    • @isabellablueberryhall4642
      @isabellablueberryhall4642 Před 2 lety

      Completely agree. There are lots of people in these comments who know absolutely nothing about horses, and think they can tell us what to do and what the rider did wrong? Seriously, it’s just annoying

  • @kiiri_owo532
    @kiiri_owo532 Před 2 lety +11

    It wasn’t a heart attack it was an aortic rupture😩 but his bad end is sad he’ll be in our hearts forever!🕊🖤

    • @meganproffitt424
      @meganproffitt424 Před rokem

      The heart attack was caused by the rupture, medically, both are correct answers.

  • @Shyhearted
    @Shyhearted Před rokem +19

    You can tell who in the comments who actually has experience with horses and who just parrots what PETA tells them.

    • @gilernt
      @gilernt Před 11 měsíci +2

      i agree with you but i also think it's never so black and white. i'm vegetarian and agree with PETA's underlying call for better treatment of animals, but i truly hate some of the bs they've pulled over the past decade or so. i also think it's illogical as humans to NOT test on animals, we just have to do it in ways that don't cause them unjust suffering; SO many lives have been and can be saved with animal testing. i'm by no means a horse expert or anything, but i think it's pretty common knowledge race and show animals are frequently treated in a sub-par manner.
      also i'm editing this to add that i think WWF is a far superior org than PETA, since i think saving the lives of a couple hundred mice that spawned in a day doesn't outweigh the priority of the 40,000+ endangered species.