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Just want to say, you make some of the best content on book tube. Always look forward to your videos even when I havnt read the books. Keep it up!
thank you so much!
My first encounter with JA was "The Shattered Sea" series a few years back. It was, imo, competent but rather mundane. As our intrepid reviewer notes the ingredients are there but not fully cooked. Frankly, I had no desire to ever seek out a JA book after reading this series,
But then I stumbled across LL about two years back, and she was so enthusiastic about The First Law books that I had to, at least, give 'em a chance. And a convert was born.
First Law is in a different league 🙌
I couldn't disagree with you more! 😅Well, except for the third book. That one didn't work because it had one POV too many. I think it would have been better if the two guys were combined into one character. But I love the first book. I defy you to list all the things that happen to Yarvi and then say again with a straight face that the book isn't dark. And the second one? Abercrombie takes his style of characters and puts them in a YA romance, hitting all the tropes while doing it? I laughed my ass off! So good. I enjoyed your video anyway because think this series deserves more attention, and I think there are people out there who's curiosity will be peaked by this who will end up really liking it.
glad you enjoyed it! I do really wish I had loved it more 🧡
@@LienesLibrary I suggest rereading when you're grim darked out. I went through reading JA for...whenever the pandemic happened to after WoC after that I needed something less dark. Shattered Sea checked those imo even though it was slightly dark. I get it though
I read the first book and enjoyed it! First Abercrombie book, will def read the reat of the series but I'm not dying to read them
These books are gorgeous looking!
I love the covers
Wait until you read them ❤
"What I would really say to him, if I could, would be.........
How's the leg?"
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I read the Shattered Sea, but I didn't pick up that in was a far future post nuclear fallout world. That's interesting. Where did you hear that?
I had it spoiled for me on the internet, but if you go to the fan wiki or any message boards, it's pretty well established and thoroughly explored/explained
Just finished book 1 and was going to quit on the other two, but because of that interesting plot twist you revealed, now I gotta go back. Lol
errr you're welcome? or...I'm sorry? lol hopefully you enjoy
@@LienesLibrary we’ll soon find out!
Totally with you, I read or DNF the first book. Had no desire to continue despite my extreme love for the Abercrombie.
it's just not First Law
I love these books. Well, the first one anyway. Then they were a bit down hill. But I do realize this is a massively uncommon opinion. Also, I would watch much more of your content if you spoke to the lens of the camera instead of watching the monitor. It's really distracting as it feels like your not talking to us. Anyway, love your work. :)
I read Shattered Sea a few weeks after Red Queen's War and it came across as a vastly inferior Broken Empire clone. I had read First Law at the time but Shattered Sea made me write off Abercrombie as all hype no bite. Once I read more Abercrombie a few years later I realised I was wrong but SS really made me reconsider any of the Fantasy Community's hyping of an author.
I read The Shattered Sea trilogy last year, and really liked it. I gave them each high marks on GR. Before that, the only thing I read by Mr. Ab. was the OG First Law trilogy, which I thought was decent; didn't love it, didn't hate it (But do want to continue in the First Law universe at some point). I think I was spoiled for the nuclear twist before going into book 3, but I do remember the "magic" being weaponry, and I thought that was neat.
I do think there are a ton of great ideas in Shattered Sea, it's the execution that fell flat for me
Listened to the spoiler and that is cool but in theory I like the weird world building twist in WoT but in execution I don’t really notice it so I can see how that wouldn’t save something from being a 3 star series
it would have bumped up the rating if a bit more was done with concept, but ah well
If the joe Abercrombie I’ve read I’d rank them:
1. Last Argument of Kings - 10/10
2. The Wisdom of Crowds - 10/10
3. Before They Are Hanged - 10/10
4. The Heroes - 9.5/10
5. The Blade Itself - 9.5/10
6. The Trouble With Peace - 9.5/10
7. A Little Hatred - 9.5/10
8. Best Served Cold - 9/10
9. Red Country - 7.5/10
10. Sharp Ends short story collection - 6.5/10
11. Half A King - 5.5/10
Isn't it set in the future though?
So they're not Vikings? At first I was interested by it but then the setting kind of push me away.
I've never read any Abercrombie but that's been deliberate because I don't like grimdark (it's the grim part I don't like, I'm fine with dark 😂). I found out only a few weeks ago that Half a King isn't grim, so I'm planning to give it a try. We'll see if I like it more than you did!
you know your own taste best, but most people are talk to who pick up First Law are surprised by how not-dark it actually is. by no means do I think grimdark is the wrong label for it, but it's more cynical than anything else
Oh it was grim alright!
You are right, for an Abercrombie fan this series is so tragic. I read the first book years ago, was very unimpressed and decided not to continue.
glad you still tried First Law!
oh wow I never picked up on that twist! I swear they actually used magic in the book though, didn't they? e_e didn't that old lady do something with the ground? god idk. Maybe it just flew over my head, and I need to re-read it. But I won't. Cos I cant be bothered. lol.
lol I can confirm there was no magic, only old tech that to them seems like magic 👍
I kinda want to give it a try, but I remember dnfing the first book a few years back so I might have to give it a miss which is a shame as I loved First Law
It's definitely not as good as First Law, sadly
I always say the opposite about chipotle and qdoba but I’m with you on this trilogy and Abercrombie is definitely better than this
Weird. I really like Half a King lol. I'm reading it right now
it's definitely not a bad book, it just so pales in comparison to First Law
@@LienesLibrary I wasn't saying it's better than First Law. But I really enjoy Half a King. It feels like a watered down First Law to me. But that's fine I binged First Law for a year lol.
I will say, my absolute favorite thing about the trilogy, a subtle nudge at the YA genre, is how absolutely nobody gives a shit about the horrible slavery in this world. MC becomes slave, breaks out and becomes the big leader. Does he stop slavery? Nah. Just glad he ain't a slave.
Great point that I wanted to mention.
Half a King put me in such a reading slump that I've been scared to read anything else by Abercrombie lol
don't let Shattered Sea put you off First Law, it's in a completely different league
@@LienesLibrary I put it on hold at my library!
Thanks for the video. I have been on the fence about this trilogy, and after your first wrap up of the books I was like, nope, I’m good. Then I hung around for the spoiler and my interest did a 180. This sounds so cool now 😎 - although I still wish it wasn’t YA (I don’t get along wit YA).
that's the thing, Shattered Sea SOUNDS so cool, everything about it, it's just the actual reading of it that feels lacking
It's no YA and it's not fantasy 👍
@@LienesLibrary You're wrong
@@CandVocaloiziiPlang1 it is YA, the author says so
I am a big fan of The First Law series but this series doesn't really sound that appealing to me. Great video!
I love this trilogy!! Half the World is my favourite of Joe's after Before They Are Hanged. If anything more ppl need to read these books!
a lot of people do really like it, so maybe give it a go if you find it cheap or at the library, but I wouldn't go out of my way haha
Can you review empire of the vampire, would love to see your take on it.
I am being forced to read it in the near future, so this will probably happen
@@LienesLibrary lol don't be so dramatic, don't be traumatized by the finale of nevernight just go in with an open mind, also don't spoil nevernight as i haven't read it yet but saw your review of disappointment in the final book
But it's the best piece of English literature evah!
Only read the first book years ago, but I 100% agree. Half a King was my first Abercrombie book and it put me off from First Law for years, and I reaaaaally regret that because now that I've read it I loved it.
Unfortunately I think Abercrombie is one of those authors that seems to think YA takes less effort (I have similar feelings about Schwab and Sanderson), since it really does feel like they hold back in comparison to their adult books.
it's a shame if that is indeed their mindset because it does both them, the authors, and YA a disservice
lol Half a King was amazing
I actually told my sister to read this because I know she's like Bookborn she doesn't like graphic stuff (even though Bookborn has read FL 😂)
My sister noped when the slaver in GoT renoved one of Dothraki's nipples 😂
FL has more graphic shit so idk if she would be able to handle First Law I know there isn't any sexual assault (which I'm glad for) but she doesn't like violence at all.
Glokta is introduced chopping Rew's fingers so 😬
I would LOVE her to read First Law though but she's kinda wuss lol
yeah, it's definitely a tamer series so it's a better option for people who don't want something so brutal
@@LienesLibrary I know you didn't like it but I personally liked it. I honestly don't think it felt very YA they did swear only words they never used from FL was fuck and cunt.
Obviously there was no squelching 😂
Joe watching this video: More ghost peppers.
watch his next book be WAY too spicy 😂
Agreed that the one book I read is a 3/5 star. Only read Half a King. It was … fine. This coming from a fan of Abercrombie. My favorite book series is the 10 first law books. He’s probably my fave author, certainly in fantasy/sci fi.
I’m literally two seconds into this video, and I’ve paused it to predict that whatever opinion Liene has, it will be mild and consensus-leaning.
I’ve now finished the video, and I think it’s a fair, thoughtful, and entertaining. That being said, I’ll pass on Shattered Sea for now. Thanks, Liene!
glad to save you a few hours 😋
I did enjoy the shattered sea trilogy but I didn't love it like I do with best served cold and red country and the age of madness trilogy
Age of Madness is ridiculously good
Well that's just great. Where were you 15 months ago when I spent 99¢ on 'Half a King'?
oh calamity, a whole 99¢?
@@LienesLibrary Yes, a whole 99¢.
Could be worse, I suppose. I could've spent forty bucks on 'Dreams of the Dying.'
@@mhatt9773 just when I was beginning to forget 🤬
You are wrong. Quit giving the wrong impression of these books.
They are definitely better than she says.
I'm fuming over this Qdoba slander 😡
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How the fuck does Chipotle not have any Queso?!? That is the ONE advantage Qdoba has. Otherwise agree😊