Why Modern Movies Suck - They Can't Write Men (Part 1) - Reaction!

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Komentáře • 145

  • @imfamouskyng309
    @imfamouskyng309 Před rokem +312

    The Dr Strange/ Wanda situation is even dumber when you remember that the Original Sorceror Supreme that taught Steven was a damn female. So its perfectly OK for him to learn magic from a woman but him teaching Wanda would have been so damn horrible?!?!

    • @gridone769
      @gridone769 Před rokem +71

      Bro that's Disney/Marvel for you.

    • @aligmal5031
      @aligmal5031 Před rokem +62

      a female that was originally a male btw :3

    • @briana.9395
      @briana.9395 Před rokem +13

      tHe paTriARchy 🥴

    • @kwenatsotetsi5885
      @kwenatsotetsi5885 Před rokem +26

      Also it not cool for Strange to be in Wonda's show but it was perfectly fine for Wonda to be in Strange's movie and overpower him plus outshine him in it

    • @NoSoulJoel177
      @NoSoulJoel177 Před rokem

      @@briana.9395 TAR

  • @JediMentat
    @JediMentat Před rokem +352

    I don't think it's sexist to find it hard to enjoy watching a 5ft 100lbs girl throw around 6'3" 220lbs men like ragdolls, when most girls I know couldn't fight off a house cat if it wanted to eat them.

    • @dominusetdeus060644
      @dominusetdeus060644 Před rokem +26

      Lmao

    • @shreksmith
      @shreksmith Před rokem +16

      @@dominusetdeus060644 the house cat part was a violation 💀

    • @Akkatlah
      @Akkatlah Před rokem +5

      But That scenario mostly happens when the women has superpowers. Plus in movies martial arts seem to give everyone superpowers

    • @Z3AL316
      @Z3AL316 Před rokem +3

      Lolll it’s not bro, nothing wrong with wanting some sort of realism in a film, and theres nothing wrong with wanting the characters the stay true to there race, though I will say there have been times where doing that has made the character better, but there are some characters you can’t and shouldn’t do that to

    • @OkabexKurisu
      @OkabexKurisu Před rokem +1

      ​@@shreksmithabsolute savage

  • @klouddsurferful
    @klouddsurferful Před rokem +41

    The problem with modern male representation in a nutshell is that it caters to male bashing and is often used to empower women, because the industry is too afraid of real masculinity to empower men.

    • @joannaholden943
      @joannaholden943 Před rokem +11

      I wish modern writers understood how men and women compliment each other IN their differences. My husband is a man's man, no question. Yet he is the farther thing from toxic. And I feel empowered with him at my side as we work TOGETHER, celebrating each other's differences and thriving in them. This kind of sick male bashing makes me angry.

  • @aleksandrvoronin9255
    @aleksandrvoronin9255 Před rokem +207

    They completely disrespected Hulk... so sad

  • @DZ-oz8co
    @DZ-oz8co Před rokem +286

    Well, they not only can't write men.
    They can't write women either.
    Can they write children, answer NO.
    They write themselves which is not very good at all.

    • @joannaholden943
      @joannaholden943 Před rokem +17

      This! They just can't write. Period. I have read so many small press books and seen small Indie films that were so well written, it makes me sad that such huge franchises are handed over to people completely incapable of writing when they are so many good writers out there no one has discovered yet 😔

    • @Navesblue
      @Navesblue Před rokem +8

      Bingo.

  • @lumpystilskin5367
    @lumpystilskin5367 Před rokem +79

    I had no problems with man of steel at all. I really love the movie

    • @Cbriggs502
      @Cbriggs502 Před rokem +22

      It's a god damn masterpiece

    • @Theomite
      @Theomite Před rokem +6

      I have problems with some of the plot, but otherwise, it's pretty awesome.

    • @joannaholden943
      @joannaholden943 Před rokem +5

      I loved it! Probably mostly because the casting was so brilliant and they managed to keep it hopeful even as dark as they were going, which made it that much more emotionally impactful. And I loved that they exploring the question "how would this man have REALLY responded to this crazy life he had been given"

  • @ajtaylor8750
    @ajtaylor8750 Před rokem +170

    The sigma male archetype has always been one I've related to and when I see them in movies I have hope that some people in Hollywood still have an idea of how to write strong male characters. John Wick or even Chris Hemsworth's character in "Extraction" are prime examples of stoic men.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem +29

      Chris Hemsworth and Keanu Reeves are amazing male actors as well.

    • @Falcun21
      @Falcun21 Před rokem +39

      Geralt of Rivia as portrayed by Henry Cavill; the man that says more with a "Hmmm" and a look than many say with a full rant.

    • @kelkirkland3308
      @kelkirkland3308 Před rokem +12

      And stop trying to get them to adapt to this soft era you can just tell some of lines were written by somebody woke

    • @poisonapleproduction
      @poisonapleproduction Před rokem +9

      The guy from the northman too I think is one

    • @mahdimhmd5597
      @mahdimhmd5597 Před rokem +2

      You do know "Sigma male" is just a meme, right?

  • @djn1822
    @djn1822 Před rokem +18

    Can’t believe he couldn’t see the difference in character and stoicism of Rocky Balboa in Creed and the whole point of Clark Kent in Man of Steel who actually WAS stoic dealing with his troubles and stepped up. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @doomslayer5463
    @doomslayer5463 Před rokem +63

    when magnus sounds worried...THATS when you know the end is nigh...

  • @misterelom
    @misterelom Před rokem +68

    The only ones I disagreed with Drinker on were Superman and Rocky....Tyrone pretty much shares my thoughts on both characters. Other than that, Drinker pretty much nailed it.

    • @misterelom
      @misterelom Před rokem +2

      @@Terminal_Apotos yeah that's true. Didn't think about Rocky Balboa but that makes sense.

  • @mckinstryza
    @mckinstryza Před rokem +20

    Props for sticking up for Snyder, because I agree with you on the Superman transformation that was going to happen.

  • @dlawso23
    @dlawso23 Před rokem +12

    I'm 53 and Roger Moore's Bond was in my timeline. Daniel Craig's Bond was colder, darker, and violent than Moore. I liked them both.

  • @1973vanguard
    @1973vanguard Před rokem +16

    In other words, ladies, if men like us were meant to be like you, we'd be YOU

    • @joannaholden943
      @joannaholden943 Před rokem +4

      I'm a woman, and I support this message. 😄 I love my fellow women, but I DON'T want my man to be like me. I want him to be him - opposite to me in all the ways that make me better for knowing him, and vice versa.

  • @johnwhite468
    @johnwhite468 Před rokem +11

    So in the game, Midnight Sun Wanda could be mentored by Strange but not in the movies?

  • @djblue056
    @djblue056 Před rokem +11

    It was really good to see you on his podcast Tyrone! I love to see my favorite CZcamsrs collaborate

  • @peposo7
    @peposo7 Před rokem +8

    Chris Caville's Supes would be terribly unconvincing if he just smiled after going through all that sht he went through. Instead of looking strong, that would be a psycho.
    There are many ppl conveniently forget that he is an alien trying to adapt in a world that easily corrupts. Of course, I've only seen Man of Steel and JL.

    • @BESTMOAD
      @BESTMOAD Před rokem

      Yep just like how reeves drops zod and smiles syco lol

  • @Akkatlah
    @Akkatlah Před rokem +4

    Geralt the Rivia is the hero while the Bard is cómic relief.

  • @JaketheJust
    @JaketheJust Před rokem +11

    The best men characters people have made were John Wick and Thomas Shelby.

  • @jonmartin9732
    @jonmartin9732 Před rokem +5

    One of the few things i disagree drinker for , is man of steel, that’s how we would react to someone that powerful.

  • @markedgood
    @markedgood Před rokem +3

    4:17 I agree on the point about being smart about how people are portrayed on the screen. In my opinion, one film that balanced various groups in an equally balanced light was the shaft remake in the 2000’s. Each character was equally capable and intelligent wether or not they were likable agreeable characters. At least they weren’t stereotypical and moronic.

  • @thebrospaul2312
    @thebrospaul2312 Před rokem +3

    Yeah Adrian was the support structure during the rocky films, but that was delt with in balboa

  • @galaxytractor
    @galaxytractor Před rokem +4

    Marvel, DC, and in fact, almost all fantasy programming is a venue for taking 'what ifs' and making things 'be' as they are not. This has (not too suprisingly) made its way to social issues as well. Modern fantasy is often an attempt to portray things in a way they actually aren't and unfortunately the viewer often walks away from their viewing experience believing reality is not what it actually is.

  • @Hoigwai
    @Hoigwai Před rokem +8

    I don't quite agree with his assessment of Man of Steel. Everything else seems spot on.
    Hearing what they did to Picard just broke my heart. It was almost worse than what was done to Luke.

    • @geniusgamerr4517
      @geniusgamerr4517 Před rokem +1

      I think because he prefer original superman.

    • @bighand1530
      @bighand1530 Před rokem +2

      I kinda disagree with what he said on Superman, Rocky and James Bonds. But with different reasons with all three.

  • @RagingWB
    @RagingWB Před rokem +5

    I Barely disagree with critical, But i disagree, Rocky in creed was written well. That was good writing.

  • @brandonhill2183
    @brandonhill2183 Před rokem +8

    Yeah, I disagree with him on Snyders Superman

  • @markymars
    @markymars Před rokem +5

    Ayoo which livestream?

  • @jacobbornowsky4013
    @jacobbornowsky4013 Před rokem +12

    Love the drinker reviews🤘🏽

  • @sambeezy007
    @sambeezy007 Před rokem

    Rocky's original support system not being around anymore makes sense for him being sort of depressed

  • @kevinnunnery704
    @kevinnunnery704 Před rokem +4

    Just like politics. Media: What laptop, Covid, border, Afghanistan, Ukraine, inflation, higher taxes, classified document problems? There's nothing to see there! 50% of the people: Yeah, there nothing to see there. If there was, the media would have told us. Ummmm

  • @EjRidenhour
    @EjRidenhour Před rokem +22

    It’s sad how they will get canceled for making a hardcore man that leads a army and not a single female protagonist that overcomes him

  • @thewolf7119
    @thewolf7119 Před rokem +2

    Just smile and wave boys...just smile and wave...

  • @SSingh-nr8qz
    @SSingh-nr8qz Před rokem +2

    On the issue of Toxic Masculinity, this concept does exit and that is expressed as VILLIANS, or anti heroes. The hero is an example of healthy Masculinity. This can be in many different forms but usually is inspiring and have virtues others see and want to mimic. Most of these modern male characters have nothing I want to mimic. In fact, I would not want to sit next to them on a long plane flight or associate with in my free time. And that is the core problem. people creating male characters based on what THEY would like to deal with (weak and non threatening) vs men that other men would want to be.

  • @Louii314
    @Louii314 Před rokem +2

    .....When you come out of a recap with life clarity. Good §Hit! Shouts to the channel.🎉

  • @james3744
    @james3744 Před rokem +7

    To this day, I still have negative perceptions of white South Africans and its all thanks to Movies. The conditioning is hard to break especially if you don't recognize that they are doing it to you.

    • @typing...4881
      @typing...4881 Před rokem +5

      I'm South african... white south Africans are portrayed pretty accurately in movies trust me.

  • @keeganbrown9967
    @keeganbrown9967 Před rokem +2

    MAN OF STEEL is still my favorite movie 💪🏻🔥

  • @alexsaho572
    @alexsaho572 Před rokem +1

    I agree on your Rocky take, its little more complicated than the Drinker make it seem.

  • @jackburton2946
    @jackburton2946 Před rokem +1

    Yeah got to disagree with Drinker on Man of Steel or Rocky.

  • @PalXen
    @PalXen Před rokem +2

    Im going to have to Kirk quote here Tyrone about them "course correcting" by saying this "Dont believe them, Dont Trust them!"

  • @777james777
    @777james777 Před rokem +2

    Next season of Velma they are bringing scooby doo in as a chihuahua.

  • @cuntohaire
    @cuntohaire Před rokem

    You were on stream with Critical Drinker? I'll need to check that out.

  • @uzairayaz7130
    @uzairayaz7130 Před rokem +1

    They got Tyrone with Zack Snyder's Superman looool

  • @locodesert2
    @locodesert2 Před rokem +9

    Kind of suck now movies want to focus on giving now flaws to their protagonist or giving too much flaws making the protagonist not really all that great.

  • @g-foxgaming5710
    @g-foxgaming5710 Před rokem +3

    As always drinker is spot on

  • @bpopa27
    @bpopa27 Před rokem

    I feel the same about the Superman thing.

  • @Animodeus
    @Animodeus Před rokem

    Only charector/ superhero that beging true to themselves is batman ,
    Most of the batman protrays are iconic

  • @WILSHIRE25
    @WILSHIRE25 Před rokem

    Can't put Strange in Wandavision but it's fine to give her half your solo movie...(Dr. Stange 2)

  • @christianlennon714
    @christianlennon714 Před rokem +7

    Fkn spot on with man of steel take my greatest hero, my greatest role model that my mother would use as a babysitter whilst doing housework lol take extremely confident champion of people loved by metropolis and strip everything about Superman away from him, I’ll admit to one thing and one thing only, I cried at Rocky a few times, still do & I broke down, nearly had a meltdown after watching what Snyder did to my hero, walked out cinema in tears but not tears of joy, the bloody opposite

    • @hainleysimpson1507
      @hainleysimpson1507 Před rokem

      Man of steel is modern supes not forties supes raised different and with a better education will realize he ain't human and also much more stoic.

    • @tufungagreen5571
      @tufungagreen5571 Před rokem

      beta

  • @serashcambell302
    @serashcambell302 Před rokem

    turn the volume up sir!

  • @PNWLiving1725
    @PNWLiving1725 Před rokem

    I appreciate what you said. Cause I was brown, I felt the the freaken same in highschool. So much better now. You got something here and you are the CZcams that we need, and they don't deserve your channel those flakies hahaha

  • @jamesgall475
    @jamesgall475 Před rokem

    Thank you for being yourself! Being happy is way better then being cool 😎

  • @XPGaming01
    @XPGaming01 Před rokem +2

    The way explained the characteristics of sigma and alpha men was really good! I feel that topic of keeping to yourself as a guy is hard to explain and you did it with ease and accuracy!

  • @jeremybrowand5941
    @jeremybrowand5941 Před rokem

    I'd agree with your point on Creed. I didn't take it that way either.

  • @MP-oj6zo
    @MP-oj6zo Před rokem

    no need to defend all these newer movies, its just too many occurencess like this, like every single one!

  • @theblueexorcist8731
    @theblueexorcist8731 Před rokem

    Anyone tell me or link me when he was on critical drinker

  • @ScubaDiverPicker
    @ScubaDiverPicker Před rokem

    I agree with most of what he said but not with Craig’s Bond or Rocky.

  • @MetalOverlord01
    @MetalOverlord01 Před rokem +3

    Looking how soft the society is becoming i really wonder if it's gonna impact Santa Monica in building the personality of Kratos for the next God of war Game i really hope they not gonna touch my Kratos and make him a weak blue. hair non-binary god of woke.

    • @SolidSnake240
      @SolidSnake240 Před rokem +3

      Hell people are already saying that they ruined Kratos with 2018 and Ragnarok. People would riot if they did that to him lol

  • @natesmart9959
    @natesmart9959 Před rokem

    The creed one is off to me. That’s where I disagreed with drinker

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 Před rokem +5

    Me too, Sigma.

  • @user-ee8yj4io3g
    @user-ee8yj4io3g Před rokem

    2:03 What is that a movie?

  • @travarturner6547
    @travarturner6547 Před rokem +1

    Happy Friday the 13th

  • @samiamten2352
    @samiamten2352 Před rokem

    Take comfort! the Creed movies don't exist and neither does the Picard show

  • @toastnjam7384
    @toastnjam7384 Před rokem

    It's not that they can't, they refuse.

  • @rch3290
    @rch3290 Před rokem

    7:50

  • @lessermook7608
    @lessermook7608 Před rokem

    Yep, perspective based on media is called conditioning. That is NOT on purpose.
    Cultural programming.

  • @Doughboy1027
    @Doughboy1027 Před rokem

    Anybody else get pissed all over again, watching Maximus (Gladiator) get stabbed? 😡😡😡😡😡😡
    ...No?
    Just me?

  • @---du3vv
    @---du3vv Před rokem

    Disney is going to “course correct” 😂 this didn’t age well

  • @sonuneil.2476
    @sonuneil.2476 Před rokem

    Toxic masculinity doesn't exist. It's just men being men. Sometimes, it could be a bit much. Everyone's not the same. They just don't like the way these men are.

  • @quasarleon4645
    @quasarleon4645 Před rokem +4

    Drinker nails it .. again .

  • @kliffkloff2476
    @kliffkloff2476 Před rokem

    that's call the matrix

  • @baxter326
    @baxter326 Před rokem +1

    Really hope DC gets their stuff together because MCU isn't doing it for me.

  • @Cbriggs502
    @Cbriggs502 Před rokem +2

    I completely disagree with his take on man of steel and the creed movies but everything else spot on 👌

  • @davidvarney418
    @davidvarney418 Před rokem

    In my humble opinion Zack Snyder can do no wrong, Man of steel was perfection 👌

  • @SolomonKane66
    @SolomonKane66 Před rokem

    Course correct? Next up, velma lol

  • @tsizzle5726
    @tsizzle5726 Před rokem +3

    Wooooo

  • @shaneoleary9919
    @shaneoleary9919 Před rokem +1

    Shehulk silly

  • @fikilemkhize5776
    @fikilemkhize5776 Před rokem

    Please do another drinker fixes

  • @oldsoul1758
    @oldsoul1758 Před rokem

    Everybody Loves Raymonds........sigh....

  • @steffdia7080
    @steffdia7080 Před rokem

    Don't forget. Final Fantasy 7 Remake, too. FF7 Remake is woke ( Tifa, Jessie, Aerith, Sephiroth, new guy, Honeybee ) fan fiction by Tetsuya Nomura.

  • @LunaticReason
    @LunaticReason Před rokem

    I am glad you decided to be your happy self rather than acting like some poser tough guy.

  • @1jidion
    @1jidion Před rokem

    check out jesus revolution bro, its about the hippie christian revival in the 70s

  • @coleedwards9203
    @coleedwards9203 Před rokem

    👍

  • @abdielhernandez2855
    @abdielhernandez2855 Před rokem

    💪💪💪💪💪💪

  • @tuchesuavae
    @tuchesuavae Před rokem +1

    I'm full on sigma. I'm not alpha at all

  • @chrisporter7184
    @chrisporter7184 Před rokem

    Wooooooooo

  • @damiandevil858
    @damiandevil858 Před rokem

    100tu Comment 😎

  • @dudejit12345
    @dudejit12345 Před rokem

    There’s so many great books and they can’t pick one or they have to make it woke wtf

  • @angrybatarian
    @angrybatarian Před rokem +1

    Disagreed with Drinker on Creed and Man of Steel as well

  • @Intruder-xw6ye
    @Intruder-xw6ye Před rokem

    Good for you..be your own man!!!

  • @Oaksycontin
    @Oaksycontin Před rokem

    Yall bs yourselves if you dont think theres no sigma males being written or wrote😭😭😭

    • @Kickinthescience
      @Kickinthescience Před rokem

      John Wick and Denzel’s Equalizer are the only current ones I can think of off the top of my head