Quest 3 Passthrough - Is Mixed Reality Grainy?

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024

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  • @7invi
    @7invi Před 10 měsíci +40

    Live and recorded video quality is not the same. Feel cheated by Meta.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +18

      Thats why I made this to make sure people know before buying. But unfortunately Im not very popular so I cant help a lot of people

    • @RockG.o.d
      @RockG.o.d Před 9 měsíci +1

      How much more would it have cost to put decent cameras in there?

    • @TherealBigblue22
      @TherealBigblue22 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Personally I bought it for the better VR hardware The pass through at any quality was simply a cool feature and easily passable but it’s strange the live and recorded qualities differ so much

    • @RockG.o.d
      @RockG.o.d Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@TherealBigblue22 I’d have preferred 1080p cameras with great low light quality than the crappy pass through we have. Though I’m sure with decent lighting and software tweaks, it will improve, but still. Apple will probably have passthrough very clear.

    • @TherealBigblue22
      @TherealBigblue22 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@RockG.o.d 3000 vs 500 bucks I would expect it to be CRYSTAL clear. Apple is also making that device specifically for the pass through for multitasking work purposes. Like I said I bought the quest 3 for better VR hardware, I also would have preferred better cameras for the pass through but the headset itself isn’t even capable of 1080p to begin with. But it’s a huge leap from quest 2 and that’s exactly why I bought it and pass through and MR is a nice little bonus for my VR headset

  • @rayamc607
    @rayamc607 Před 10 měsíci +26

    Great video. What doesn't come across is the amount of grain that there really is when viewed through the headset, most probably because, as you say the captures are much better quality than the live images and also because they are 2d and reduced in size so the pixels in the image are packed together more and reduce the grain effect.
    I was so disappointed at the live image that I contacted Meta support. They have been great so far and they have asked for my details and the serial numbers on the box and headset. Are they checking to see what batch my machine was manufactured in? I was thinking that this could be defects or different components. But I am more and more on the side that this is how it is. Even with all my lights - I have about 20 spotlights in my living room plus lamps - its still no where near your image quality but when you play a a game you don't really notice - I think that's the key, it's enough for games but I am sure 99% of the new quest users will put it on and think it looks *crap* and be disappointed.

    • @322ss
      @322ss Před 10 měsíci +3

      Well it is quite obvious prerelease footage was 100% marketing BS to fool anyone who didn't think too much. Since when have digital cameras / video cameras created perfect image in low light conditions? Or even in pretty OK lighting conditions. There is always some grain, more or less, but always some. And when you are selling a device with a price tag of 500-700 usd, now wonder if the lenses and sensors are not the best ones, even though they might be of high quality.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +2

      I think thats another factor is the games. You get so caught up in whats in your room you dont notice how the rest is grainy. But aside from that I should have mentioned in the video that I sourced them differently. The first Quest I had was bought as a pre-order from Meta when they came out and the 2nd one was bought from my local Best Buy to ensure that they were hopefully from different batches as best I could.

    • @rayamc607
      @rayamc607 Před 10 měsíci +2

      This is not the same thing. This is 2 images and a depth sensor being combined. Its not a low light camera iso grain. This is the mother of all digital noise!@@322ss

    • @WatchThemFall
      @WatchThemFall Před 8 měsíci +2

      I've seen tons of videos about passthrough and read people talking about the problems, but even with all that when I put it on it's still disappointing. It's worse than I imagined even going in thinking it would not be very good. But yea, once I actually started actually playing a game it doesn't really bother me.

    • @Lucky-pi8dk
      @Lucky-pi8dk Před 8 měsíci

      @rayamc607 any update on your support request for this? Has the pasthrough improved?

  • @lunartedy4882
    @lunartedy4882 Před 10 měsíci +5

    "I bought another quest 3" absolutely killed me

  • @Luapi
    @Luapi Před 10 měsíci +8

    I would love a Quest 3, I'm still rocking the Oculus Rift CV1. Maybe a giveaway to someone that develops a VR/MR/AR game you would like to see. An indie game dev competition. 😉

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +2

      tbh oculus CV1 is still a BALLER headset in some reagards. It still has the best controllers and tracking out of any headset I have had to date. Might do a giveaway with the headset or give it to a small studio like you said. It just depends on if me giving it to them can help them or if it'll just be something "neat" to have.

  • @SJkopa
    @SJkopa Před 10 měsíci +5

    I also have a rough picture quality problem with Quest 3 passthrough. Why on earth doesn't the meta improve this situation? Are consumers deceived by advertising?
    I hope it improves quickly with a soft update.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      Thats one of the things I went through with the theories on why it looks so good on recording is because they want to sell more headsets with really good marketing and hope that people will just deal with the passthrough

  • @konchu
    @konchu Před 10 měsíci +3

    Quest pro has one color camera and does some magic to use the black and white cameras to make this stereo color. The Quest 3 has 2 color cameras not sure what shenanigans they do but the extra camera is what I think helps this the most.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      That is interesting to hear. The thing that confused me though is just how it somehow managed to look worse after the Quest 3 came out though. Like it was fairly comparable and then just shat itself

    • @konchu
      @konchu Před 10 měsíci +1

      I don’t know I could read a cell phone screen etc on my pro so I think it’s probably just better on quest 3. Both feel grainy to me I feel near is clearer though on quest 3 far was closer to the pro for me but probably still slightly better on q3.

    • @eukaryote-prime
      @eukaryote-prime Před 9 měsíci

      I'd like to see what they're doing computationally with the passthrough. Obviously they aren't just sending a feed from each camera to each eye and are processing it into a 3d image. I expect this might be improved through software in the future.
      I don't know why people are expecting early consumer grade level passthrough in a device that's essentially a $649 dollar cellphone with a 4k display and a ton of other tech to be like what the future apple headset that costs 6x as much.
      And if you don't know by now that marketing videos aren't the same as actual experience I don't know what to say.
      Everything from fast food product photos to literal video game showcases end up not looking like the finished product.

  • @BlackLoboGaming
    @BlackLoboGaming Před 10 měsíci +3

    Thanks for this video, just got a quest 3 and this helped a lot!

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Glad I could help :). Hope it grows so that I can help stop all the confusion over the passthrough!

  • @MyLifesDreamis2WorkWithWolves
    @MyLifesDreamis2WorkWithWolves Před 10 měsíci +5

    There’s a bug. When your headset goes into low power mode it goes into a worse quality. However. A bug makes it stay on there forever even if you restore the headset.

    • @rayamc607
      @rayamc607 Před 10 měsíci

      What low power mode? I've heard this before but it doesn't have a low power mode

    • @MyLifesDreamis2WorkWithWolves
      @MyLifesDreamis2WorkWithWolves Před 10 měsíci

      @@rayamc607 no thats the point. so basically it isnt like a toggle users can do. its just a sneaky hidden behind the scenes device thing it does
      mine looks garbage but is usable and i think since its suppose to only stay on there until battery is charged ( and obviously you put it on charge pretty quick when its low anyway ) they dont expect you to notice much. however.... the bug means it never actually exits this damn mode man

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      Thats good to know. Im normally plugged in so i hadnt exoerienced this yet

    • @cosandreas9414
      @cosandreas9414 Před 10 měsíci

      How about you link us to your made up story?

    • @Snakkers
      @Snakkers Před 10 měsíci +1

      This dont look nothing like i got. Your is so mutch clear. Even with more Light.

  • @ImmersedRobot
    @ImmersedRobot Před 10 měsíci +2

    In the section of the video where you compare the through-the-lens passthrough, and the recorded passthrough [7:47], there is an obvious difference in that you're drastically zoomed in on the through-the-lens footage. That's the main point in all of this - the recorded passthrough doesn't look any better than the in-headset passthrough at all, it's simply the case that the video footage is stretched over a user's entire field of view while using it, and that's why it looks much lower resolution.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      I didnt "zoom in" at all in the recording. I had to increase the size of the frame to make it fit the screen but thats all. While using it, all footage I recorded inside the headset always looked better in quality than what I actually experienced on both headsets so there is a difference

    • @ImmersedRobot
      @ImmersedRobot Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@VRCentral You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not suggesting you 'zoomed-in' or altered anything untoward at all. What I'm saying is, if you blow the recorded video up to a level which covers your entire field of view (in the same way you experience when actually using the headset), then it will appear just as grainy.
      The point I'm making is about the same resolution of video being viewed in headset (full FOV), on a monitor (reduced FOV), or on a tiny smartphone screen (even lower FOV) is exactly the same. It's not a matter of the recording being artificially better quality than what is being passed through to the in-headset display.

    • @decadent.
      @decadent. Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@ImmersedRobot
      Yeah that is the point I was going to make.
      It is crazy how few people seem to understand that angular resolution is what determines perceived sharpness/clarity.
      Sony deceptively marketed the psvr2 as 4k which they obviously knew most people would take to mean 4k per eye.
      These kind of things are damaging to the VR industry. We need 4k per eye headsets to even deliver the equivalent of a 1080p tv !!

  • @GrimReaper_sGhost
    @GrimReaper_sGhost Před 10 měsíci +4

    I see you are using the default strap. I am so glad I didn't get the battery elite since it now seems at least 20W output is needed and probably more for this power pig. I find the head strap that came with it to been comfortable over hours with a power bank stuck to the backstrap as a counterbalance. I can also recline on a bed and set the power bank between pillows which is not comfortable with the elite straps. You also got to try stuff like Sword Art outside in a large area during the day- just be very careful not to get direct sun in the lenses but the cameras are unaffected. A 60,000+ mAh power pack in the pocket or a backpack with a high W output in the pocket keeps you going all day and are cheap..

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +5

      Yea the elastic strap isnt as uncomfortable as it was on the Quest 2, not a night and day difference, but definitely more comfortable. Another guy in the comments was literally just telling me though that nobody will take me seriously though if I use the standard strap and I'm like "what does that have to do with anything of what I've tested" XD
      Also with the batteries on other parts of your body, Its been really comfortable using this lately to keep my Q3 alive. A "Neck Battery" XD : www.amvrshop.com/products/nec-battery-for-quest-2-quest-pro-pico-4?_pos=1&_psq=neck&_ss=e&_v=1.0&ref=VRCentral
      Also thanks for letting me know about the cameras versus the lenses!

    • @kennethwilliams9668
      @kennethwilliams9668 Před 10 měsíci +1

      No 60k battery pack is cheap, send the link 😮

    • @kelliecruz2114
      @kelliecruz2114 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@kennethwilliams9668 depends what you consider cheap. They are about $30+. I'd pay the $50 and get a good one.

  • @the.virtual.samurai
    @the.virtual.samurai Před 10 měsíci +3

    I'm doing all kinds of awesome things with passthrough. Mostly stuff I can't post here tho 🤣

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +2

      *plays among us sus sound*

  • @CarbonatedTurtle
    @CarbonatedTurtle Před 10 měsíci +4

    After 2 weeks with the Quest 3 I'm realizing passthrough isn't much more than a gimmick. You basically need a spotlight pointed directly at you if you want to have clarity that's anywhere close to videos you see online, and even then, the warping makes it impossible to just walk around my house doing tasks while wearing it like they're trying to claim you can. I will admit, it is fun to use in some games like Demeo where the room around you is only in your peripheral vision and you're so focused on the game in front of you that you don't really notice the grainy, warped mess around you.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      I agree. This is a pretty good summary of what i was trying to convey in the video. Idk if id go as far as to say its a "gimmick" but i will say there arent a lot of ar games id be willing to play for several hours on end

    • @thelelanatorlol3978
      @thelelanatorlol3978 Před 10 měsíci +1

      The spotlight issue is related to Dynamic range which cant really be solved right now but meta already has a passthrough prototype that miminizes or even removes distortion

  • @Ghofy
    @Ghofy Před 10 měsíci +2

    Insane video the fact u bought 2 is insane

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      I spare no expense when it comes to my audience

  • @enigmo20
    @enigmo20 Před 10 měsíci +7

    My Quest 3 have a slight blur and a “sparkling” tendency of surfaces of objects, even when I have overhead lights and the room is illuminated fully. Your testing and results are 100 times better than what I’m seeing through the pass through on my Quest 3. It’s going back to the store tomorrow.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +4

      Just to let you know thats why i rexported that part near the beginning of the video about how the recording looks better than my acutal experience. Like when I said it looks fairly grainy, and then the recording looks fine, thats because I was describing what I actually saw over what the recording showed.
      Your's might be a different case but I did want to let you know in case having to return the headset to try and swap it out was an inconvenience.

    • @enigmo20
      @enigmo20 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@VRCentral I appreciate your review and your candor. There’s actually a Meta Forum thread about the differences from one Quest 3 to another and why some users are having such bad image and blurriness. This goes beyond what the “acceptable” graininess that the pass through that are presented in a majority of CZcams’s reviews.

    • @322ss
      @322ss Před 10 měsíci

      @@enigmo20 well most VR-content creators in YT are wh#ring for Meta, no-critique content mostly, so better not take anything as a fact from those "influencers".

    • @CarbonatedTurtle
      @CarbonatedTurtle Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@enigmo20 What you're seeing in videos is processed video, which is why it's never going to look as good to you while you're wearing the headset as it does in videos we see online. You didn't get a dud, they just all look like what you're seeing at home.

    • @rayamc607
      @rayamc607 Před 8 měsíci

      no, it just from a single camera. Like amobile. Sot it looks great. Inside the headset it's all 3 lenses and that is what makes the grainy/blurry image. You can't capture it, camera through a lens doesn't either@@CarbonatedTurtle

  • @ShogunOrta
    @ShogunOrta Před 9 měsíci +2

    At 2:21................thats what the Quest 3's Passthrough looks like for me, when you're recording the Quest 3 through your camera lens at that time. But what is the method you're using in the footage at 2:00 which looks exceptionally sharper for the Quest 3 there? At 2:21 is the kind of blurry VHS quality that people are complaining about.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci +1

      I mean yea. That was the whole point of the video. I tested it in what I beleived were the ideal lighting conditions and expanded beyond that. Also showing that the passthrough recording is different from what our eyes actually see

    • @ShogunOrta
      @ShogunOrta Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks. This and my other comment, I think you covered in the video. I sometimes tend to comment about videos before watching all the way thru. But thanks for the vid!

    • @teppichkuchen8606
      @teppichkuchen8606 Před 8 měsíci +2

      i recieved my quest3 yesterday, i testet it in a full lighted room, and my Passthrough is way more grainy as showed here. i cant read anything, no book, no phone nothing. very frustrating

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@teppichkuchen8606 more grainy than the passthrough recorded version or the part where i showed the true passthrough my phone camera to the lens

  • @Nobody-Nowhere
    @Nobody-Nowhere Před 10 měsíci +9

    Noise is directly related to the amount of light you have, in low light you get more noise. These are tiny sensors with tiny pixels, this is why they don't work that well in dimly light indoor lighting.

    • @Nobody-Nowhere
      @Nobody-Nowhere Před 10 měsíci +1

      Your theory about Quest Pro is not correct, the reason is that Quest Pro has a higher megapixel color sensor.. meaning it has smaller pixels, meaning you get more noise and need more light. Quest Pro has a 16MP color sensor, while Quest3 has 4MP color sensors.

    • @stuartburns8657
      @stuartburns8657 Před 10 měsíci

      This 👏
      All the YT'rs had those circular white lights and film studio illumination.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      Yup thats what I did a lot of the light testing for :). Never heard anybody call it "tiny sensors" though

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      the only reason why I talked about it being a bad update was mainly because like i said in the video it looked a LOT better just a few days before I recorded this but then it looked all gross so its not like i changed the color sensor in there or anything

    • @stuartburns8657
      @stuartburns8657 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@VRCentral is it beyond possibility that the lighting levels have just changed slightly?
      Different time of day / evening etc

  • @nobodies13
    @nobodies13 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I'm kinda disappointed with the graininess on the quest 3, I've watched quite a few review videos before making the purchase, most of them are praising the clarity of the passthrough, one of the reviewer even sayin it's actually usable alongside with the real-monitor, that's total bs, it's impossible to read the texts on my monitor with the quest 3 on.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Its the best quest passthrough ive experienced so far but i thought it was important to get this info out there because it seem like people dont talk about it and just give free advertising to meta with their recordings

  • @WhoKnowsZombie
    @WhoKnowsZombie Před 10 měsíci +2

    Play some local multiplayer in mixed reality with your extra quest 3, unless your friends you have are all online like mine 😆 but if you do have friends locally, you should do some local multiplayer mixed reality with it. Especially for some videos

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Tbh i wish i could play mixed reality games with friends but I always get so busy with my full time job, CZcams, Tik Tok, and Twitch that I've lived in this town for over 2 years now and am not friends with anybody who lives here XD

  • @ChuchoTheCatLord
    @ChuchoTheCatLord Před 10 měsíci +2

    Great analysis Wise, I can't help but to think how difficult it was to say pass-through so many times in a short period of time... you said it 34 times, yes I counted them, I need help, I do stuff like that... ask Soul... anyway, that's if you wanted to know 😂
    The additional Quest3? No idea man, give it away, refund it, use it as a spare or guinea pig 🤷🏾‍♂️
    Thanks for this!

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +2

      It was difficult. I had a lot of takes lol
      Also if im gonna use it as a test headset..."will a quest 3 survive falling off my apartment building" video?? XD

    • @ChuchoTheCatLord
      @ChuchoTheCatLord Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@VRCentral falling off my... what? 💀

  • @carlgaming6730
    @carlgaming6730 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I don’t understand, straight out of the box my pass through just looked like quest 2 with color, and I thought that’s how it was supposed to look! Pretty confused

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      wym? like how the recording looks better than how it actually is?

    • @carlgaming6730
      @carlgaming6730 Před 9 měsíci

      @@VRCentralyeah I guess, it seems like it. To put it into better words my pass through looks like the quest pros

    • @maurizio_italy
      @maurizio_italy Před 8 měsíci

      look at my comment

  • @322ss
    @322ss Před 10 měsíci +3

    My Quest 3 is going back - noisy image of the passthrough is least of worries: Quite visible uneven panel lighting (could live with it). Warnings about liquid or debris in USB-C port (straight out of box) when I boot the headset or plug/unplug the cable. One dead pixel on another panel, near the center area, some color tint on left side panel near the outer edge. Headset battery lasts very short time, max 2 hours, no matter what. Also, controller batteries drain way faster than with Q2, from 100% to 60% after 4-5x 1.5 hour sessions.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      Geez it sounds like it was just straight up defective! I mean mine wasnt as perfect as everybody makes it out to be but it wasnt THAT bad

  • @cfishmuk73
    @cfishmuk73 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Give it to me. I for one definitely vote for that.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      i thought some people might say that lol

  • @marcoslopez_
    @marcoslopez_ Před 6 měsíci

    Pass through looked awesome from what I’ve seen on TikTok. Didn’t know it had this much warping and grain though.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 6 měsíci

      yea if you crop it to be vertical it cuts the edges where a lot of the warping is. some poeple like to make it seem better than it actually is for the sake of sales

  • @rlwings
    @rlwings Před 10 měsíci +1

    You need more light for the Quest3's passthrough to look better and, you need more EVEN light... Actually, even though the Quest Pro's passthrough is grainier then the passthrough of the Quest3, the Quest pro is actually better in key ways. First, the Quest Pro's passthrough is being viewed on better LCD screens which has more dynamic range and better colors than the Quest3 which means that the resulting image is brighter, and has way more detail in the shadows. The Quest3's blacks are all plugged up and the whites are blown out.... The Quest Pro's passthrough is grainier, yes, but the overall sense of the space is much better than the Quest3.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      That's actually something I hadn't considered too much of. I did think it was odd though that the quality decreased right after the Quest 3 release though...

  • @elijahvernon1575
    @elijahvernon1575 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Dope video man, great watch 👏

  • @MotoRiff77
    @MotoRiff77 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the video, I had upgraded from Q2 to Q3 and the grainy passthrough video is just as bad as the Q2 but with color. If I go outside it's a little better but not by much. I would love the quality you are getting in this video and others I've seen but it's not even close. smh..

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 5 měsíci

      yea thats why I had that part where i held my phone camera up to it so it can seem more accurate to what youre seeing. but the recording is, by deseign, meant to look better than the actual

  • @YoungMoneyFuture
    @YoungMoneyFuture Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great vid man! What is the name of that cool passthrough sword fighting game?

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks! That was Subspace Hunter. If you want to see more of it I have it here: czcams.com/users/shortsYuFXgax_8-E

  • @rgmusic4769
    @rgmusic4769 Před 7 měsíci

    Me not watching Seinfeld on my quest 3 at 1am 😂😊

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 7 měsíci

      Seinfeld is a timeless show XD

  • @D9Beats
    @D9Beats Před 9 měsíci +1

    Bro you’re hilarious 😂 new sub for sure

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      Glad the jokes inside the informational stuff dont go unnoticed lol

  • @phadestonkaneki9861
    @phadestonkaneki9861 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I don’t believe mine is defective… I just don’t have the recommended lighting of at least 30 lumen. Lowest I have is around 25 lumen.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 8 měsíci

      Yea I would have liked to use a unit of measurement but i could already see the amount of people getting mad at me about not being able to measure it themselves since most wouldnt have a device for that so I stuck to just normal increases/decreases and different types of light

    • @phadestonkaneki9861
      @phadestonkaneki9861 Před 8 měsíci

      @@VRCentral there is a lumen app I have because of a video I watched. I’m not sure how accurate it is but I’d say it may serve useful to at least get a close enough estimate.

  • @322ss
    @322ss Před 10 měsíci +1

    You should have taken a screenshot (if possible) image of the grainy footage and put that on screen for a few seconds in your video. Low bitrate compression tends to completely remove the noise, even if you upload something high bitrate with noise to YT, it will mostly be removed.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      You mean like besides the video i took through my phone camera?

    • @322ss
      @322ss Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@VRCentral I can't remember if it is possible to take snapshot images of screen in quest. If it was possible, then I bet it is more closer to "raw" image frame than what gets stored into any video stream that gets saved. Video "frames" will already be heavily compressed, so you are not ever going to get all the grain you see live image in your headset to be saved into video file. So still image captures from noisy moments are way more accurately representing the noise than replaying the stored, compressed video.

  • @pabloareas2258
    @pabloareas2258 Před 10 měsíci +2

    The Vision pro is going to destroy all this VR headsets! Can’t wait to get it next year! Facebook knows that they can’t compete against Apple. Like the rest of the other companies. I bought the meta 3 I haven’t even opened it, considering return it to Best Buy. I won’t even bother using it. What’s the point

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      It does depend on what you use it for. If youd rather have a device where you can imessage, browse the web, and and perform certain desktop/mobile actions but in an AR aspect I can see the Apple Vision being much better with much more clarity (at least I hope). With the Apple Vision not having any controllers I think that it might be hard to play most AR games on it in an enjoyable experience. I would be interested to see how it handles games though because apple devices have never been known to handle gaming approppriately. I would be interested to see what studios can afford to buy one though to make their games compatible with it though because of how expensive it is. With me having a fairly small channel I doubt I'm going to be able to afford one tbh :(

    • @pabloareas2258
      @pabloareas2258 Před 10 měsíci

      @@VRCentral the reason why I mentioned the Vision Pro on your video, is because you were giving examples of mix reality with the meta quest 3, and mainly yes…I’ll be using the Vision Pro for regular tasks. Such as web browsing, iMessage, FaceTime, streaming, meetings. For movies and gaming is going to be I think awesome! Because you can use your ps5 and Xbox with it. But what I’m more excited about is watching movies in that. All the bloggers that have tested the headset they have been extremely impress on how responsive it is. Also the fact that with the Vision Pro we will have more apps to use like Disney plus others, and with meta is only prime and Netflix and CZcams. Honestly I think the Apple experience will revolutionize again the way we do things. But meta quest is mainly for a different type of audience like gamers. I think the Apple Vision Pro will be the new iPhone of VR. Nothing has been that innovating since the lunch of the first iPhone in 2007 and this will be the next big thing of Apple!

  • @saintlucidVR
    @saintlucidVR Před 10 měsíci +1

    they should come up with something so the quest can be played with outside without it getting damaged

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      You can use this for the Quest 2 but there isnt one for the 3 yet: czcams.com/users/shortscL8URO4KUh8

  • @krumist
    @krumist Před 5 měsíci

    Im getting a quest 3 sometime soon and most people say the passthrough is terrible, some say its fine i have decent lighting, small room with 3 windows and a diffused light, judging by your video it seems not that bad, very passable, comments make me think otherwise

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 5 měsíci

      Based on the lighting testing I did in the video the more light the better but not overdoing it. The recent updates have made it better but it still has a ways to go

  • @xtyzeW
    @xtyzeW Před 10 měsíci +2

    How to leave mix reality? I wanna go home

  • @MS-1994
    @MS-1994 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I was hoping to be able to read my phone or laptop screen-- neither is possible for me.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      Yea its a bit difficult. I can see them kinda but its not plesant haha

  • @evuriday1
    @evuriday1 Před 4 měsíci

    The short answer: Yes, yes it's very grainy.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 4 měsíci

      depending on the lighting

  • @muniemoo
    @muniemoo Před 8 měsíci +1

    My quest 3 passthrough was pretty clear when i got it, then it got the latest update, now it is grainy.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 8 měsíci

      Maybe they botched the update

  • @benjiebarker
    @benjiebarker Před 10 měsíci +1

    Yeah iphone only stopped being griany in low light a few versions ago

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      Having more cameras like this headset 🤣😂

  • @ironmedsvr
    @ironmedsvr Před 9 měsíci +1

    It's fasle advertising, even on the quest 3 commercial the pass through looks all clear and shows no warping.
    False advertising on metas part.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      Its unfortunate. But thats why i made the video so i could warn people about that its not just perfect plug and play. Just sad the video didnt blow up because i was hoping to make a lot more people aware of the issue

  • @user-mg2me4nb3w
    @user-mg2me4nb3w Před 10 měsíci +1

    What is WITH you guys and using a VR headset OUTSIDE?!

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Hey i mean my comments kept telling me to touch grass so i had to go outside 😂

  • @paulbellino5330
    @paulbellino5330 Před 10 měsíci +1

    It 2 two things it's not enough lighting and all those youtuber videos and making it seam clearer than it really is.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yea those are 2 of the things i went over in the video

  • @fgarza
    @fgarza Před 6 měsíci

    I just returned my Meta Quest 3, it's just useless without expensive LED lighting systems, I could never use it really not even in a bright room in daylight and high windows around.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 6 měsíci

      i dont blame you at all. thats why i made this. i didnt want people to buy it and be mad because the ads that meta are putting out dont feel honest

  • @eternalmindblocks8359
    @eternalmindblocks8359 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Just go outside like the other CZcamsrs 😂 ( their headsets had clear pass through but only bc it was sunny outside) also I subbed

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      I appreciate that 😁. And yea the outside recording was fun. Might have to do more of that soon

  • @Ghofy
    @Ghofy Před 10 měsíci +2

    I hope they update it , but when u record on headset it has 4k quality lmfaooo but yeah hopefully they update passthogh mic & battery

  • @virex0x
    @virex0x Před 9 měsíci +1

    I wonder if mine is broken or im doing something wrong, cause i nowhere see this clear from my quest 3. Which is something that almost made me lead to return the headset. Should i try to have it replaced?

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      Did you see the part where i held my phone up for the lens testing?

    • @virex0x
      @virex0x Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@VRCentral yes, mine is way worse id say like a 480p video quality, especially in a bigger room with day light is horrible

    • @raidensleep2682
      @raidensleep2682 Před 8 měsíci

      Same issue bro. Did u solve this. i bought Mine yesterday and passthrough is 360p quality and grainy. Like million bugs in my screen and they are like moving

    • @virex0x
      @virex0x Před 8 měsíci

      @@raidensleep2682 I returned mine, was bothering me too much xD

  • @jamespatrick8145
    @jamespatrick8145 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What was that table top game you mentioned? Denio or something

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      Demeo. its kinda like Dungeons and Dragons Simplified but in VR animated Table Top. Its $40, but if you want it for Quest since I already own it on there you can use this for some dollars off of it: www.oculus.com/appreferrals/VRCentral/3634830803298285

  • @ShogunOrta
    @ShogunOrta Před 9 měsíci

    So that super clear passthrough for the Quest 3 is achieved when you have the headset actively recording? Why can't we see through that recording camera's lens then if that is the case?

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      nope. Its beause the camera capture is different from the passthrough camera. its why i had that part in there about holding my phone camera to the lens

  • @apexboss7897
    @apexboss7897 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Giveaway for the extra quest 3? Give it to your brother so you can play together on stream? Have another to play after the other one dies? Not sure to be honest.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      might see if i can make a video of the quest 3 surviving a fall off a roof XD

  • @dylanjmas
    @dylanjmas Před 10 měsíci

    Your passthrough was better than mine

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      did you see the comparison between the lense look through and the recording?

  • @Faolon
    @Faolon Před 7 měsíci

    Honestly, I have some grain but not bad, I love to do chores with pass through lol, il watch CZcams at the same time, good enough to wash dishes even, I also did set my refresh rate higher, as it's default on a lower setting, not sure if that changed anything

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 7 měsíci +1

      yea depending on the lighting conditions its not THAT bad but its not as good as the meta ads and people need to be aware of the actual quality compared to the ads and recordings. Plus i liked being able to see if it was improved with the lighting conditions

  • @maurizio_italy
    @maurizio_italy Před 8 měsíci

    I would like to know what is the light level at floor, misured with a decent luxmeter, otherwise it is just blablabla. My quest 3 passthrough with the lights that I usually have at home is terrible, very grainy, with a huge noise figure. Meta states "Minimum light level for passthrough is 50 lux". Without measuring, saying things like "You need a good light" have no meaning. Human eye works well with 5 lux to 80000 lux (minimum detection at 0.1 lux). People cannot easily discriminate from 30 lux or 80 or 50.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 8 měsíci

      The point of the video was to test the Quest 3 passthrough with different kinds of light, natural and artifical, as well as different kinds of artifical light. I was trying to see what people should aim towards as well as display the nature of the Quest passthrough to show that its not as advertised because so many people get confused on why their's is not as good.
      While I could have, and might later on, do testing on Lux levels, it wouldn't really do any good for me to say "you need an exact lux level of 80 to have optimal passthrough", I would bet that almost every single person that would see that video wouldn't have a means to measure their own light level. Therefore I would be just throwing useless numbers at them.

  • @bazzauk2020
    @bazzauk2020 Před 20 dny

    Give your quest 3 to your brother

  • @hunter2442
    @hunter2442 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Yes my passthrough is grainy!!

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      i hope this clarified a few things at least :)

  • @dlsrudeboy8658
    @dlsrudeboy8658 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Q3 is just tha Qpro we all been fooled

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      ngl it seems that way overall lol. Im gonna try to make a comparison video down the line of both headsets

    • @dlsrudeboy8658
      @dlsrudeboy8658 Před 10 měsíci

      @@VRCentral can’t wait

  • @demonhogo
    @demonhogo Před 6 měsíci

    this sells me on the vision pro

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 6 měsíci

      i mean the passthrough quality is better but not really for that price

  • @eliasrivera4200
    @eliasrivera4200 Před 8 měsíci

    My passthrough is kinda 💩 all pixelated and lighting of yellow in the edges. It might be a production mistake

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 8 měsíci

      It could also be if you have a low light environment and that the passthrough isnt as good as advertised like I showed here.

  • @Gingerlion777
    @Gingerlion777 Před 10 měsíci +2

    It’s good in natural lighting.. what did people expect from a 550 device?… come on

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      It was more-so to see if natural light made the passthrough look better over artifical light and i was able to detect almost no difference in full light scenarios

    • @Gingerlion777
      @Gingerlion777 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @VRCentral sorry wasn't meant to you 😅 it's actually a very informative video. It was for the people complaining about the quality in low or artificial lighting conditions.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@Gingerlion777 oh i didnt take it that way. I try not to assume negative intent first haha. I was trying to answer it like it was a question lol

    • @raidensleep2682
      @raidensleep2682 Před 8 měsíci

      Bro passthrough like 2000s webcam. its like 360p quality and grainy. if i cant see the world clearly. What is the diffrence the quest 2?

  • @mickeyhoward1226
    @mickeyhoward1226 Před 7 měsíci

    I have a quest 3 and it looks like a old static game on the passthrough

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 7 měsíci

      did you see the part of the video where i compared the recorded passthrough to the actual passthrough vision of putting my phone to my lens?

  • @dappercustomer_service2219
    @dappercustomer_service2219 Před 9 měsíci

    My Quest 3 is way grainier when viewed through the lens. How did you record through the lens with your phone? I can't get mine to stay on once my eyes are out.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      you need to have your thumb over the light sensor above the eyes in the middle

  • @Faolon
    @Faolon Před 7 měsíci +1

    Bruh, legit 2:12am for me wtf is this wizardry 4:30 btw for those

  • @user-hx2no5wz5h
    @user-hx2no5wz5h Před 7 měsíci

    mine is like way overly grainy like dots visible. idek what to do i feel ripped off

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 7 měsíci

      did you see the part where I compared what you actually see to the recording in the testing?

  • @jxst_fluffy9
    @jxst_fluffy9 Před 6 měsíci

    When I’m playing with my quest 3 the quality from my passtrough is very bad but when I’m streaming or something than it’s super clear. Why is that so?

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 6 měsíci +1

      if you mean why the recordings and stuff look better than the passthrough itself like i talked about in the video?

    • @jxst_fluffy9
      @jxst_fluffy9 Před 3 měsíci

      @@VRCentralyes Correct!

  • @noshio1
    @noshio1 Před 10 měsíci

    I just wonder why the recordings are so much better than what we see n the lens.

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      i personally subscribe to the 2nd theory that I put on there that can't really be verified haha

    • @rayamc607
      @rayamc607 Před 8 měsíci

      Because it's straight from 1 camera, like a mobile - it's not the image you see in your headset that uses all 3@@VRCentral

  • @rawrbeez6625
    @rawrbeez6625 Před 7 měsíci

    If I’m GMing a game in a VTT is the pass through good enough that I can read the module in my hand before a scene or to set a map?

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 7 měsíci

      im sorry idk what you mean by VTT or moduels

    • @rawrbeez6625
      @rawrbeez6625 Před 7 měsíci

      @@VRCentral it’s a virtual tabletop. Sorry maybe a better question is can I read a book in pass through?

  • @benjiebarker
    @benjiebarker Před 10 měsíci +1

    The 512gb versions have defects

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      For consistency and because its more common, both versions i tested were the standard model

    • @benjiebarker
      @benjiebarker Před 10 měsíci

      @@VRCentral yeah, 128gb should be the best you can get…hopefully we get the quest 2 pro with the new xr2 gen 2 chip, the face tracking, micro led screen , clearer passthrough, and the face tracking in time for the apple vision release, cross fingers

  • @speedbuiz
    @speedbuiz Před 9 měsíci

    You sound like Ludwig and Matpat had a VR child :)
    Awesome video tho lol

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      First time i heard that 😂. Glad you enjoyed yourself though lol

  • @sector_p
    @sector_p Před 9 měsíci

    did you fliped between the quest 3 and pro in 2:17 focus on the reflection

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      no thats just how i had to have something on the headset to help me keep my phone in place

    • @sector_p
      @sector_p Před 9 měsíci

      @@VRCentral oh ok and (what the hell i didnt think that you are gonna react)

  • @mominulhoque4160
    @mominulhoque4160 Před 2 měsíci +1

    make new video in updated passthrough

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před měsícem

      well the purpose of the video was to test different conditions to see if lighting is better in different scenarios. idk if the properties of that changes in of itself. I know that MR has had a lot of good updates though

  • @RockG.o.d
    @RockG.o.d Před 9 měsíci

    How many lights have you used to get it that clear?

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      Can you time stamp where was the clearest to you so i can better tell you? I did leave a link for those floorlights i was using in the description if that helps

    • @RockG.o.d
      @RockG.o.d Před 9 měsíci

      Around 2:07 you did a through lens on quest 3. Well mine I crappy looking even with the studio lighting. Quite shocked when an old £100 iPhone or android from years ago can get better results. Even todays phones do great low light videos compared to the video I’m seeing in reasonable light. They could have also put another wide angle camera there to record what you are seeing instead of processing both cameras again. How is it, recorded video which was recorded on the same headset with same camera sensors look night and day different? I’d accept the lower crap quality when recording to save on resource, but I don’t think that’s what’s going on. 1080p photos and videos from a phone look great, but this can’t seem to achieve the same.

  • @MrVelez-mc5tv
    @MrVelez-mc5tv Před 10 měsíci

    What about UV protection filters

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      there is one I posted on for the Quest 2 but i dont think one for the Quest 3 has come out yet czcams.com/users/shortscL8URO4KUh8

  • @DigBickEnemy
    @DigBickEnemy Před 10 měsíci +1

    Why 237?

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      just a random number i popped into my head lol

  • @judalix1156
    @judalix1156 Před 9 měsíci

    If i get the light in the description will it be not grainy

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      Well its not like a magic light or anything. It does provide great additional light for the price but anything recorded is only going to be about 30% inside the lens as shown in the video testing. There still is graininess but its reduced

  • @MeltingBucket
    @MeltingBucket Před 10 měsíci +1

    Eat your extra quest 3

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      Mmm full of digital nutrition

    • @MeltingBucket
      @MeltingBucket Před 10 měsíci +1

      The taste kinda warped around for a while but at least it’s good

  • @ConsoleComedyKid
    @ConsoleComedyKid Před 10 měsíci +1

    I watched this when it had 113 views

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks for being here so early :)

  • @FelixLanzalaco
    @FelixLanzalaco Před 10 měsíci

    needs cut to the chaste.. someone needs to do a through the lens video with both a reported good passthrough set and a reported bad one.

  • @Zoid_xyz.
    @Zoid_xyz. Před 10 měsíci

    You should totally gib me that extra one

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      I knew some people would say that lol

  • @stoni
    @stoni Před 10 měsíci +1

    i this mario kart music ?

  • @user-bw7ri3mj8p
    @user-bw7ri3mj8p Před 9 měsíci

    Hey i have all my lights turned on and its still very grainy

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 9 měsíci

      As you saw from the section where i compared to what you actually see its only about 30% though

    • @user-bw7ri3mj8p
      @user-bw7ri3mj8p Před 9 měsíci

      ​​@@VRCentral if I buy your light will I see better

  • @JynxedKoma
    @JynxedKoma Před 10 měsíci

    *A M O N G U S ! ! ! ! !*

  • @SvenskaSkies
    @SvenskaSkies Před 5 měsíci

    Mine looks like sand paper

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 5 měsíci

      what kind of lighting did you have?

  • @TJ-bx5px
    @TJ-bx5px Před 10 měsíci +1

    Look shit, that why i dident get one. Sticking to my G2 AND aero

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      Yea I feel like I need to get an Aero. Was holding out hope that the devs might send me one because of the interactions I had with them at VR events but unfortunately my channel isnt big enough yet

  • @brillsmith2207
    @brillsmith2207 Před 8 měsíci

    your grain is ZERO compared to mine... literally i see NOTHING on yours... on mine its pure garbage..

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 8 měsíci

      did you see the part of the video where i was showing the real passthrough compared to the recording?

  • @saintlucidVR
    @saintlucidVR Před 10 měsíci

    give ur extra quest 3 to me 😊

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      i knew i would see some of these comments lol

  • @RockBandPlayer84
    @RockBandPlayer84 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You should send your extra Quest 3 to me. I can DM you my address

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      You can pick it up if you want. My address is Atlantis 😂

  • @NaurTooEarly
    @NaurTooEarly Před 10 měsíci +1

    9 seconds ago lol

  • @paulbellino5330
    @paulbellino5330 Před 10 měsíci

    Get a new strap if you want to be taken seriously

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Well I want to wait until the good 3rd party headstraps start releasing before I buy anything. I'm not going to waste my money on the god-awful meta elite strap. Some companies have started to send me 3rd party straps though but they're not here yet. And the standard elastic strap isnt an uncomfortable death sentence like the Quest 2 standard strap.
      Also there is a thing in media creation called relatability. Even on my short form content if I wore the standard elastic Quest 2 strap as opposed to my $120 headstrap, I would get more views because people would see a headstrap that they don't have and feel out of the loop almost instantly.

    • @paulbellino5330
      @paulbellino5330 Před 10 měsíci

      @@VRCentral did not think you would answer me. Lol. I know not everyone wants to get ripped off by meta. I bought the elite strap already and am waiting for Bovo to make more conversion kits. I have one with battery from my meta quest 2. Good luck with your channel I might subscribe. I am the OG of VR since oculus dev kit one.

  • @Mc_sideburns
    @Mc_sideburns Před 10 měsíci +1

    🥺
    👉👈

    • @gloriosis
      @gloriosis Před 10 měsíci

      bro

    • @VRCentral
      @VRCentral  Před 10 měsíci

      what???

    • @GrimReaper_sGhost
      @GrimReaper_sGhost Před 10 měsíci

      The two pointer fingers are referred to as shy in ASL. A hand gesture like this is frequently used when someone is embarrassed or timid. The emojis are frequently paired with the emoji, which can give them an extra edge of nervousness. It might be the bananas in your kitchen that triggered him. People like him tend to have a phallic complex I read.

    • @Mc_sideburns
      @Mc_sideburns Před 10 měsíci

      @@GrimReaper_sGhost 🤓🤓🤓