THE BEST ATC 3 WHEELER TIRES
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- čas přidán 14. 10. 2021
- Today we talk tires, things to think about before you order new tires.
Reason some tires work better than others.
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Great video man
Thank you Anthony. Glad you liked it. thanks for watching
On my ‘84 Big Red, I upgraded the axle and installed 2.5in spacers at the wheels where I ran Buckshot Mudders…inverted heavy duty forks up front as well…never should’ve got rid of that rig damnit….
Sounds like a beast!
Great info on the tired
Lokking for a set for my 125m
You have several options in the 22inch tire, a few less in the 25inch.
Should be Master Atv builder
Thanks for sharing brother.some great info
Your videos are amazing. Thx man
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Awesome video, keep em coming !
Thanks! Will do!
On my 85 250es Big Red, the most pulling tire in the mud that I had was a Dick Cepek spider track. I think it was a 25x13x9, a little heavy but would hook up in the nasty stuff. I remember going on a night time Halloween mud run how that bike would get me through places that larger four wheelers were buried up in the swamp and go around them, of course I had to get off and help it some LOL!! Good times.
Hey CJ7fun, the Dick Cepek tires work a lot like a paddle tire, I am not surprised they pulled great in thick mud, They certainly should be on the list of great mud tires. Thanks
You know your stuff you got yourself another sub
Thank you Camden, I appreciate everyone I get.
our sx has mud lights in the back and i find its not really enough tread but it does good theres a wooly on the front that does great. thanks for this video its shown me alot. what tire do you find to do teh best in snow?
The mud light biggest advantage is the light weight compared to the bear claw and others you wont feel the power loss with the mudlights.
I don't even know what kind of tires are on my 250R right now. They're sorta just "there" so it rolls when it doesn't have the Sand Geckos on.
Don't really like the Sand Geckos since we're at it. They're really tall and choppy. Definitely going back to something like the Sand Skate II or similar next time. Wasuch easier to turn with a paddle that was a "check mark" shape than one that's straight across.
Terrain is everything when it comes to tires. Personally i like a worn tire so it will slide on a 3 wheeler. Air pressure makes a big difference too. More pressure slide easier soft grip more and kinda whip in the corners on the exit
@@mrcbuilds when i got my 200s it had chin chen's (probably spelled that wrong) that were so stretched out they practically touched the fenders. Side wall says they're 22" tall.
I replaced them with whatever tire Tractor Supply had in a 22" for an 8" rim. Ended up with something called "Hi Run." Much smaller in diameter, and while they say 2 ply, they're rock solid. At least they feel that way. Definitely weren't designed for a hard tail 3 wheeler. I might just put one of those Chin chens back on the front cause the Hi Runs aren't very round on the edges, kinda squared off, makes it steer funny, even for a 3 wheeler haha
Oh, and my 250R has Dunlops, exactly like the one you showed on the aluminum rim. I think they were the stock wheels and tires from a TRX450 or something. I remember now they were on my 350X when I bought it. I never bought good knobbies for my 250R cause it's mostly rode in the dunes. Anything else, im taking a 4 stroke.
Anyhoo, sorry for writing a book haha
Can confirm, Deestones run almost 2 inches small
I have mudlites on my 83 185s knobby on the front love it
Great setup, thanks for watching
I have always ridden in the deserts of California.From age 6-40! With that said listen to our man here mostly. But if your a 3 wheeler guy. Keep air in them. Mr. MRC, I'm just having fun. I just want to show us true 3 wheeler guys have your back are crazy dudes! I found a 86 250r the other day for 500 bucks the other day but it needs a lot😬 I'm going to get it running today on my day off👍
Thanks for the kind words, tire choice depends on a lot of factors, sand, mud, snow, dirt, clay, rocks. Weight, rider skill, power. All of these are factors to consider in tire choice.
@@mrcbuilds Iv had 3 wheelers my entire life, yet all my friends were way better than me with their dirt bikes even. I'm a big fan sir! I have learned a lot from this video and I will continue to watch 👍 my 86 250r sat for 10 years just like yours out in a field so it's cosmeticly done for. But it has spark and compression.
@@davidgwin4540 sounds like it can be saved. I rode mine again today, what a blast . Merry Christmas
I run ITP MUD LITE on all my 250es big reds and the 250sx. I went with scorpion tries for my 200es big reds
my buddy just got a 81 250r 3 wheeler for $100 i was sick to my stomach when he told me that. he had to rebuild the top end an throw tires at it. now it runs great it’s a cool old death machine
That's a great deal, once in a life time kinda thing. Look for my 250r video. Kinda the same story. Lol thanks for watching.
I did the skinny wheel conversion on my 250SX and it is awesome!
Hi Catrider, Yes! I want to do that as well, I would like to install a 200x and gain the disc brake too.
What exactly do u need to do the skinny tire conversion
It's simpler that you think. The only thing that you need is the new rim and tire. Unbolt the old and bolt on the new. I bought a DWT red label front 10X5 10" 4X110 3+2 offset front rim and a 23X7 10" Maxxis M9207 Pro front tire.
Same I put a 23x7-10 CST Pulse in front and 20x11-9 Pulse in the rear I like the setup.
@Antoine St-Yves right on! I put a Kenda Bear Claw EX 22x11-10 on the rear, and it works well all year for me, especially in the snow.
Man u keep teaching meeeeee thanks man they are too heavy for the trikes u riiiight i like they look all day everyday but there heavy
Something to consider with these lesser powered machines.
Good good video sir, I've got the Carlisle willy buggers, and I love them one my 250 big red, brother has the clod Buster's. I kick his ass in the mud, lol. Thank you for the video.
I like the woolly boogers too. Alittle lighter than the cold busters and easier to spin and self cleaning. Thanks you for watching and supporting the channel.
The tire shown at 17:56 is what I used to have on my atc200S back in 2007. Those tires worked really well for me and even held up well on asphalt. Ive been looking for another set but i cant remember what they were called. I know they were made by carlisle but that's all I remember. I havent yet been able to find any for sale. I did see some other brand copied it though.
I believe that tire is discontinued. Check the carslie website would be your best bet. Thanks for watching
@mrcbuilds that's a shame, but I believe it because I've searched quite a bit and haven't found it. I quite liked those tires. Paid $55 each at Walmart in 2007 for them. Thanks for the reply.
what is the heaviest you would go for a honda 250 big red tire
Honestly id look for the lightest tire you can find/afford and fits your type of riding. A mounted woollybooger is about 30lbs each and is a noticable drain on these machines. I like the kenda bear claw, the mudlite for muddy riding, a kenda scorpion for trail use, a good all round knobby for work around the farm by Ocelot or Carlisle. I would try to stay under 15lbs each tire and wheel combo.
well shit, i just bought bkt171s for my bid red, hopefully it works
Wow, those are going to be heavy, I would suggest looking into a primary reduction gear. unfortunately its shaft driven and it is not as easy as swamping a sprocket
@@mrcbuilds yep well, we will se I guess, my buddy has a big red on 32s not as aggressive tread but it moves, my trike is going to get swamped every weekend I live in Florida so it’s all mud , I’m mounting them up this weekend so I’ll let you know my results
@@mrcbuilds I also stepped up to a 28 inch tires so hopefully that will help with the gear ratio a bit
@@mrcbuilds well, I got everything mounted up and took it for a short ride down the street and she doesn’t do too bad they do feel a little heavy on the bike but as far as bogging down the motor not much, it’s an 85 big red so it has the super low gear for first, I’m pretty sure, whistling diesel, put big ass truck tires on his three wheeler, and it moved and didn’t blow the diff up immediately.
can you run a 25/13/9 on the front of a 84 es
No sir. I have seen "12" inch tires rub. Some manufacturers list tires as rear or front. You will find rears tend to be wider than fronts
New fish here with a '84 200M. Replacing the chain, but I can't seem to get the slack out using the info in the manual. I hear you talk about changing the sprocket. Could the front sprocket be changed to the next size up to help with the slack? Instead of opening a can of worms by messing with the cam chain and internal gears? I would appreciate some help on this.😊
Hi, welcome, you may need to remove a link of chain. Count the links in the old chain, then the new. Yes you can buy larger and smaller sprockets to adjust the gear ratio, also changing tire tise will work also. That M came with 25in tires, if you dont need the ground clearance find some 20s or 22in tires you will like the pep they give to the machine.
@mrcbuilds Thanks for the 411, my tires are all new 25's, so where might I find a next size sprocket? How do I determine what size I have now and the what size do I ask for ; a size bigger?
@@rhondasibley7679 i dont know off the top of my head. You can google the factory sprocket size could be like 13/42 im just guessing here. But 2 teeth up or down is noticable. Bigger front will give you top speed less torque smaller front will give you more torque less too end.
@mrcbuilds Can't thank you enough, I'll be heading to our Honda dealership in B.R. tomorrow!👌😊 Been nice chatting with ya!
1982 atc200 what tire size do you guys suggest ?
As a rule the 8in wheeled machines run a 22, the 9in wheel machines run a 25. I tend to run 1 size smaller accross the board. Unless your bogging your machine and need the tire height. I like knobbys for general use, directional tread for mud
Thank you for showing the Sun F tires. They look like a Carlisle Trail Wolf. I've wanted to try them for a while. How do they perform? I also have a pair of CST Ambush on the back of my 350X and I agree with you. They are very good tires.
I like the sunf, I have used several of them, even there street style tires. they are light but durable. the ambush tires are very grippy, I would say to grippy for a stock 200x, the 350x has no problem spinning them. Thank you for watching
I've got an 85 250 m (25-12-9s on it currently) and it's gonna get mostly used around town and hard packed dirt or gravel, with some ranch work tossed in. Any suggestions? I am a broke highschool student
A balloon style knobby will wear well on hard pack and gravel the ocelot line of tires are good and cheap. amzn.to/4562Vg3. If you want a little better tire at a cost the kenda amzn.to/47EUZ7c. Is good too.
@@mrcbuildsthank you so much, my current tires would have kept for another year but they were left in a shed for so long they dried out and cracked bad enough to leak
What size Bear Claws are on the Big Red on your video picture for this video, that machine looks awesome
Hi shawn those are 22x12x9. Thanks for watching.
I have a 1984 200 es big red. Trying to change the tire the stud and nut rusted and I of course managed to spin it. I know these hubs are hard to come by. Just wondering if there’s any alternative or a hub from another bike that would fit?
Hi K.C.S. yep those hubs were only used on 2 machines that I can find the 250es and 250sx part number 42610-HA0-000. Have you considered having a new stud welded into your hub? that might be easier, the studs and complete hubs are available on ebay. good luck I hope this helps
@@mrcbuilds yeah I’m going to get a new stud welded. The partzilla lookup shows 42410-958-000 with the 200m having the same. I gues they changed it in 1985. I remember Dennis Kirk used to carry aftermarket ones that were solid construction and far superior. But at least the studs still seem available. Just wanted to see if someone like you came up with something better to adapt over the years. Thanks always for your response.
We called those 2 tires on the left wooly boogers I put them on my 85 250es when stock wore out and they're are tough as he'll but ride extremely hard...those and the turf style tires are all u could find in the early to mid 90s in the south before internet unless u went to atv dealer....
Yep, that's the trade off- long life = stiff ride. Your right now a days we have tons of 8 and 9 inch tires to choose from. Thanks for sharing.
I run bear claws on the back and a scorpion on the front
Hi Al, That's a great combination!
I can’t have as much fun on those 1000cc bikes bc I don’t have the space to really open something up like that, we have 50ish acres and even on the atcs it feels kind of small. I’d need 100-200 acres to justify having a 1000cc. The tires on my 250sx say scorpion on the side and are pretty good just what came on it when I bought it
That's a good point, the space the larger bikes need is crazy. There getting as big a Suzuki samurai and jeeps, one of the nice things about smaller bikes is being about to get yourself unstuck, with needed a wrecker. lol Scorpions are a nice tire, the open lug pattern cleans itself out very well, the 250sx should have no problem breaking them loose. I bet its a fun bike to ride.
I have those turf busters on my trx200 😂. So heavy lol. But they have lasted forever. Only run it in low range. Lol
I have a stack of them seriously like 10ft tall, They may out last all of us.
What tire would you suggest for a 200e, will be used mostly on my property to do Basic work.. maybe once in a blue moon ide take it on a trail..
I have 3x those turf buster tires I could use but they are heavy like you mentioned..
As much as i dis like the turf busters. They are great work tires. Good traction and very thick ply. You can even run them flat. A knobby would be best for saving your grass if that is a concern. Ocelot and kenda make a good light weight turf tire in 4 ply. Good All round tires like carlisle or kenda in a 6ply would be best for farm use less puncture prone then lesser ply.
If you hate that Carlisle turf buster, I'll buy it. love that as a front tire
Message me on FB, we can work something out, I have a stack of them
@@mrcbuilds I love old tires, have any Kenda dirt dog? Cepek? Carlisle dirt boss?
@@mrcbuilds done
Nice grouping of tires to explain. Just a heads up- tires and batteries are getting more expensive with almost every order and both will have worse shortages going into next year. We had to order $8000 worth of tires to get a deal, and with YUSA batteries, 2 of their 3 production lines are shut down and they temporarily stopped producing some sizes. The other manufacturers are taking advantage so if you need something and can get it, don't hesitate. Thanks .
Thanks for sharing and spreading the news, we all need to prepare
@@mrcbuilds I've never been able to get this detailed info before and need to pass to on to those dedicated in our 3 wheeled world.
Nooooo! I just put on 2 Deestones! Yup, they're a bit short. But I'm not sending them back, because I got them ordered from the Walmart, and they're mounted. The good thing: just using them on nice dirt roads and prairie land around the Dakotas.
You'll be fine, I have ran them and there a descent tire, I just dont like them advertising them taller than they are. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel.
Build them ATVs! I collect /rebuild quads mostly. Yamahas are my favorite.
Thanks for watching!, I appreciate it.
I mostly ride flat, not rocky, desert or loose dirt. How will a lighter 20in tire affect my 200S?
A lighter tire will be easier to spin, due to less rotational weight, this combined with the shorter tire lowers the gear ratio and that allows the engine to turn up easier and quicker, keeping the engine in the higher power range. The lower center of gravity will help you in the turns also.
Have holeshots on my 85 250r
I have holeshots on my sport bikes also, there great tires.
Hey man . I was watching your tire Video from back in October ,. I was wondering if you have ever looked at
AMS. tires ? I have them on my quad runner . I am using SWAMP FoX on the rear , and Pac Trax on the front . they work very well for many riding conditions. they seem to be very durable , and the price is pretty reasonable . give em a look, maybe they would work for you also on one of your builds.
Tim from Wisconsin .
Hey Tim, I have seen them but have no personal experience with them. I will take your word for them and may give them a try. Thanks for the info.
@@mrcbuilds my quad came with the Ams Swamp Fox tires on the rear when I purchased it from the previous owner , they had actually just installed them brand new right before I purchased it . the Pac trax did seem to be a bit shorter than the actual true size , so when I purchased them I ordered them 1" taller than the original size .
Make a video of it love gokarts
Very soon, thanks for watching
Can anyone tell me how to change a big red into disc brake from the drum im trynna buy a 3 wheeler but don't wanna get stuck with a paper weight i can't find parts for
Search for a kit there are a few companys that make them. You can find any part you may need for that trike
I have big red 200s and I mud ride alot but also trailed alot but I want something that's softer for suspension purposes. what tire do you think would be the best
I like the mudlites there a very light tire, and the kend bear claw its heavier but last a long time. Either of those would work well in the mud and trail. Thanks for watching
@@mrcbuilds are they very stiff? because I would like something that isn't stiff so it absorbs bumps a little better
@@camdencole6647 Thats going to be a trade off, the stiffer tires last longer and are not easily punctured (6ply or more) the softer (4ply) can be aired down and ride better on a ridged trike. The bear claws are harder and will not air down as easy as the mudlites. I would recommended the mudlites for your style of riding.
Itp mudlites turned the 250 big red into a fkn tank.
Agreed, the mudlights are light and aggressive. Thanks for watching!
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what is a good tire brand i need
a good mud tire
I like the kenda, GBC, Carlisle
can i use a lawnmower rim and tire
I dont think so snippa
Wassup with that gokart
I'm slipping a little. thanks for watching
I just got a deestone knobby like u showed in a 12 25 9 for my 83 Honda 200 for the front tire it fits great and seems like taller and narrower to me probably isn't anyway is deestone a good brand of tire ??? was 75 mounded on my rim I bought it at a local tire place thanks love your vids I have learned much
Hey wolfpacak47, deestone tends to be shorter than advertised. Sounds like you got a good deal. Tires are getting more expensive. Thanks for watching and subscribing
man where are you from? wanna come to my Southern Indiana farm and help me with my 200s? haha
Sounds like snow country. Burr. I will stay south of the Mason dixon line if I can help it. I would enjoy some time on a real farm. What's up with the 200s?
@@mrcbuilds I talked to you on FB. but I think it needs a top end rebuild. it smokes a little bit and all these people are saying that the 200s should be running 50 still and all I am at is 31 tops. I just want it so I can pittle around but I wanna take it around some of the back county roads this summer. Do you think a top end rebuild will restore enough power to get me to about 45mph or so? i also need to adjust the carb possibly.
@@LMM615 if its smoking than address that issue first, do a compression test. Does it need a topend or valves or both or a carb adjustment?. If the compression is less than 100psi and you want to run it flat out, than yes do a topend, and a valve job, and then do a mpg run. Depending on the weight of rider, I dout a new 200s would do more than 45mph. You may want to look for a 350x or 250r, if you really want speed.
@@mrcbuilds i am new to all this. I will be watching alot more of your videos and working on it slowly. I dont care about speed really just want it to run as good as i can get it to.
I hate the turf busters and trail pros them things will still be around 100 years after the world ends.
Yep, roaches and turf busters will outlast us all. Lol and there extremely heavy, I think there made of concrete and lead.