I’ve loaded thousands through my Dillon Dies. Yes they have the slight coke bottle look. But it does nothing to performance or function. They’ve all run fine and accurate.
Saw your video a few months ago. I finally got the Redding Titanium Sizing Die. As a result no more Coke Bottle Effect when reloading 9mm. Thank you so much for the heads up.
On my end- 380, 9mm, 40, 357 SIG, 45 Auto, 38/357 mag, 25-20 WCF (in the process), 223/5.56, 243, and 30-06. My preference in dies is either Redding or Lee for 90% of my dies, with some Hornady and RCBS mixed in as well.
@@thereloadingcraft I have never seen a carbide die for 9mm that did not have a full length carbide sizer. In fact if you have one where the ring is too short they put the wrong ring in at the factory. I had that happen with a LEE once. Until about 20-25 years ago all brands of carbide dies costed more for the 9mm Luger and 30 Carbine than any other sizes due to this fact, but within the last 25 years prices standardized due to high volume sales on those calibers.
I've reloaded for years and this isn't an issue for me. Maybe extremely little of this but you gotta dig aroung and really look for it. Never been this pronounced in my experiences.
I had a similar bulge issue on a Dillon SD press. I started using a Single stage Lee press just for resizing and ultimately found that the Dillon Powder Funnel was causing the issue and changed to the Mr.Bulletfeeder Powder Funnel
I’m confused, did you resize the case a second time after you seated the bullet? I have this issue running the Lee sizer and hornady taper crimp die, I desperately want to fix it
Yeah I have this complete set and a 35 Remington Redding set. Between those 2 die sets I learned Redding makes the best reloading equipment on the market Period!!!!! I don’t care if people have had great success with lee Dillon Rcbs Hornaday. In my honest opinion if you truly want quality reloaded ammo get quality equipment. I will say I do like Forster ultra micrometer seater dies but even those you have to be VERY careful with them. Because you can split the seater stem in them with compressed loads.
It could (and I had this happen in extreme circumstances) affect feeding, and it will allow a little extra gas blow by upon firing until the case swells to seal the chamber
Just looks bad to some people, as long as it feeds and chambers fine it’s not as much of an issue. If you happen to have a pistol with a stepped chamber it can be a hassle if it’s bad enough, but that’s rsre
@@thereloadingcraft it was more of a joke, I don’t reload 9mm because I find it far more tedious than loading rifle rounds. Plus, 9mm is still less than $0.50 a round where I’m at so I don’t have a need to reload it yet.
It pays off when you reload self defense rounds. When I was getting 9mm for less than $0.09/rd per 1,000rds it wasn't worth my time. But it is worth my time when I get pulled Leo projectiles (Gold Dot HP) and can load for $0.25/round or less.
Ha! I won’t go into all the details, but I’ve had (3) of the best 9mm sizing dies MA has to offer, and every single one of them had issues. The first one had the decapping stem so machined off center axis that it was missing the flash hole and punching other holes in the bottoms of my cases. The second and third ones scratched up brass something fierce (even with proper lanolin case lube) and didn’t size enough to the point where I was getting bullet setback because there wasn’t enough neck tension. Took a ton of pictures and trying to convince the owner that his “flawless product” had serious design and manufacturing issues that needed corrected to try to get them replaced. After the 3rd one said screw it, went back to my Redding TiC sizer which does a better job anyway and has a customer service backing better than any other in the industry, and better quality machined dies. Won’t touch Mighty Armory with a 30 foot pole and caution others against it either with the experience I’ve had.
@@thereloadingcraft I have the same experience getting my brass full of vertical scratches. It only works decent when I lube the brass. I went back to my Redding dual ring sizing die.
Nothing here touches the bullet other than the case. The Resizing die just sides the brass Edit: This is just after sizing. Before loading the die gets cycled through an expander die which sets the neck tension from the inside.
@@_FJB_ the only real way to get rid of that bulge is to swage the bullet inside of the case down to a diameter that makes the case look purdy. Factory ammo has the same bulge in it. It's unimportant, so long as it cycles in the gun, the case will still expand the same to seal against the walls of the chamber, the gases will still expand, and the velocity will be unaltered. I shoot much lead bullets and I use an m die for neck expansion, if you think this is bad with jacketed bullets, try cast lead lol. Whether it shoots well, matters. Whether it looks perfect after it's loaded doesn't. 🤷🏼♂️ That's the point. Look into Lee factory crimp dies, it'll help you swage your bullets. Lfc the ammo then pull a bullet or two, and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about, and your ammo will look amazeballs
@@mybuickskill6979 I thought you were getting the wrong idea of the video from the first comment. I know what you were saying now much more clearly. Yeah that bulge means nothing if it cycles and seals perfectly. Instead of bulge its really the concave shape they're talking about. I fireform wildcat loads so I do understand. I have a beautiful birds eye maple 17-222.
Never seen a piece of brass my RCBS die couldn't fix
Ive been using my lee crimp die to iron out any creases like that. Works well, but its an extra step on my single stage press.
I’ve loaded thousands through my Dillon Dies. Yes they have the slight coke bottle look. But it does nothing to performance or function. They’ve all run fine and accurate.
If it fits it ships.
Amen.
Not seen this with Lee, Hornady or RCBS dies. Not sure which other Dies your referring to. Oversizr bullets for sure will do that.
Yep oversize bullet.
Saw your video a few months ago. I finally got the Redding Titanium Sizing Die. As a result no more Coke Bottle Effect when reloading 9mm. Thank you so much for the heads up.
I don't have that issue at all using my Lee resizing die
Lee’s aren’t too bad, nor are Hornady’s. The worst offenders I’ve seen for 9mm are RCBS (carbide) and Dillon (carbide) which significantly undersize.
@The Reloading Craft good info. What calibers do you load? Rcbs is cheap, Hornady.. I feel like they are the Walmart of reloading. Just.. cheap
On my end-
380, 9mm, 40, 357 SIG, 45 Auto, 38/357 mag, 25-20 WCF (in the process), 223/5.56, 243, and 30-06. My preference in dies is either Redding or Lee for 90% of my dies, with some Hornady and RCBS mixed in as well.
@@thereloadingcraft I have never seen a carbide die for 9mm that did not have a full length carbide sizer. In fact if you have one where the ring is too short they put the wrong ring in at the factory. I had that happen with a LEE once. Until about 20-25 years ago all brands of carbide dies costed more for the 9mm Luger and 30 Carbine than any other sizes due to this fact, but within the last 25 years prices standardized due to high volume sales on those calibers.
Hmm. Interesting. Luckily I have never had that problem with my RCBS or Lee resizing dies.
I've reloaded for years and this isn't an issue for me. Maybe extremely little of this but you gotta dig aroung and really look for it. Never been this pronounced in my experiences.
I had a similar bulge issue on a Dillon SD press. I started using a Single stage Lee press just for resizing and ultimately found that the Dillon Powder Funnel was causing the issue and changed to the Mr.Bulletfeeder Powder Funnel
I’m confused, did you resize the case a second time after you seated the bullet? I have this issue running the Lee sizer and hornady taper crimp die, I desperately want to fix it
Yeah I have this complete set and a 35 Remington Redding set. Between those 2 die sets I learned Redding makes the best reloading equipment on the market Period!!!!! I don’t care if people have had great success with lee Dillon Rcbs Hornaday. In my honest opinion if you truly want quality reloaded ammo get quality equipment. I will say I do like Forster ultra micrometer seater dies but even those you have to be VERY careful with them. Because you can split the seater stem in them with compressed loads.
I have exactly the same issue.
Does it fix the Glock “bulge” ? That’s a pain in the a** . Thanks
I have Hornady dies and have zero problems like this.
The Hornady’s are decent, I will say.
I use Hornady does and they make the coke bottle look…
Any redding 9mm sizing die?
interesting. I only get this on a progressive but not a single stage using the same lee carbide.
That’s…odd…? The die should be working the same regardless of what press it’s on. 🤔
The ones that you said look pretty terrible, would that affect performance?
It could (and I had this happen in extreme circumstances) affect feeding, and it will allow a little extra gas blow by upon firing until the case swells to seal the chamber
This bulge is no big deal. I seen it on several cartridges, including 357 Mag. Just ignore it and keep shooting.
Hey I’m new to reloading is the coke bottle look bad and or dangerous?
Just looks bad to some people, as long as it feeds and chambers fine it’s not as much of an issue. If you happen to have a pistol with a stepped chamber it can be a hassle if it’s bad enough, but that’s rsre
Reason #237 of why I’m not reloading 9mm
That’s not really a reason…? Just a reminder to be smart with what equipment you get.
I load all my 9mm and once setup it’s easy.
@@thereloadingcraft it was more of a joke, I don’t reload 9mm because I find it far more tedious than loading rifle rounds. Plus, 9mm is still less than $0.50 a round where I’m at so I don’t have a need to reload it yet.
It pays off when you reload self defense rounds. When I was getting 9mm for less than $0.09/rd per 1,000rds it wasn't worth my time. But it is worth my time when I get pulled Leo projectiles (Gold Dot HP) and can load for $0.25/round or less.
@@GunGuy258self defense shooting with bon factory ammo could be an issue
@@DasGoodSoupget outta here Ayob
Mitey Armory dies... solid steel... way better die!
Ha! I won’t go into all the details, but I’ve had (3) of the best 9mm sizing dies MA has to offer, and every single one of them had issues. The first one had the decapping stem so machined off center axis that it was missing the flash hole and punching other holes in the bottoms of my cases. The second and third ones scratched up brass something fierce (even with proper lanolin case lube) and didn’t size enough to the point where I was getting bullet setback because there wasn’t enough neck tension. Took a ton of pictures and trying to convince the owner that his “flawless product” had serious design and manufacturing issues that needed corrected to try to get them replaced. After the 3rd one said screw it, went back to my Redding TiC sizer which does a better job anyway and has a customer service backing better than any other in the industry, and better quality machined dies.
Won’t touch Mighty Armory with a 30 foot pole and caution others against it either with the experience I’ve had.
@The Reloading Craft Wow!... I have several in different calibers and never had an issue... but hey...whatever works for you!
@@thereloadingcraft I have the same experience getting my brass full of vertical scratches. It only works decent when I lube the brass. I went back to my Redding dual ring sizing die.
just buy rcbs dies
Lol... So you want to swage the bullet down to a less than rifling diameter? Hmm k makes sense.
Nothing here touches the bullet other than the case. The Resizing die just sides the brass
Edit: This is just after sizing. Before loading the die gets cycled through an expander die which sets the neck tension from the inside.
This comment makes no sense. This is not at all what they were saying.
@@_FJB_ the only real way to get rid of that bulge is to swage the bullet inside of the case down to a diameter that makes the case look purdy.
Factory ammo has the same bulge in it.
It's unimportant, so long as it cycles in the gun, the case will still expand the same to seal against the walls of the chamber, the gases will still expand, and the velocity will be unaltered. I shoot much lead bullets and I use an m die for neck expansion, if you think this is bad with jacketed bullets, try cast lead lol.
Whether it shoots well, matters. Whether it looks perfect after it's loaded doesn't. 🤷🏼♂️ That's the point.
Look into Lee factory crimp dies, it'll help you swage your bullets. Lfc the ammo then pull a bullet or two, and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about, and your ammo will look amazeballs
@@mybuickskill6979 I thought you were getting the wrong idea of the video from the first comment. I know what you were saying now much more clearly. Yeah that bulge means nothing if it cycles and seals perfectly. Instead of bulge its really the concave shape they're talking about. I fireform wildcat loads so I do understand. I have a beautiful birds eye maple 17-222.
@@mybuickskill6979 Function > Form