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The Verdict!... Swap my R1250GS for an R1250GS Adventure
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
- So, hot on the heels of me considering changing my November 2018 R1250GS TE for an R1250GS Adventure Exclusive TE. Here is the outcome of my deliberations and yet more questions for my viewers
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Nick
Accessories on (or used for) My R1250GS
Motorcycle Dryer
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Horn
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Tank Bag
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Protection
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Clothing I wear
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Enjoy it Nick I’m 73 and bought on early this year and it’s great you have plenty more years left
Cheers Chris. We all hope so. Tend not to count now. Like beer, if you count you’ll stop!
Should have named the video.. how an accountant justified buying a bike for himself,🤭
Don’t over think it or justify it Nick I turn over bikes all the time I look at every dollar spent on a motorcycle is money well spent because it makes me happy and puts a smile on my face, I am not much younger than you and if we can’t buy ourselves toys at this stage in life we never will, enjoy and ride safe mate.
Cheers Jack. It’s a big part of my justification for sure. 👍🏻
LOL! It’s the same everywhere. There’s the real math and then there’s the math one presents to the wife. 😂
lol
In fairness mine has a ‘shoe hobby’ that would shame Emelda Marcos so my bike changes are probably less 😂
Yep, man maths will always win!
Givi is good, I bought 2 boxes, the 42l trekker and the 46 litre Dolomiti. The latter for touring, the former for weekend trips. No regrets
Nordkapp thanks for contributing 👍🏻
Great for you Nick! We are the same age - bought my GSA in December... before the Covid Crap in USA and beyond. Planned a big ride. Will get to it eventually. Great Bike!
Glad you’re enjoying it anyhow. You’ve got further to ride uninterrupted than us for sure 👍🏻
Enjoy the new bike, Nick! I like the man maths but most of all I wholeheartedly agree with your main justification for changing. I'm a similar age to you (slightly younger, obviously :) ) and the number of quality "biking" years ahead of us is uncertain but definitely finite. Therefore, taking every opportunity to enjoy a diverse range of bikes and riding is a no-brainer. That's the reason I bought a second bike to complement my R1250GS.
Cheers Richard. Indeed it’s much to cram into an unknown time as time itself seems to accelerate. Ride safe 👍🏻
Nick, great analysis. Good luck with the new bike! Looking forward to the reveal.
The ‘reveal’.... sounds great 😂
I bought an 1150GS Adv in 2002 which replaced my bouncy Honda Transalp. After 11 years I sold it to a friend of my daughters after reaching 71 & much nagging from the wife & getting a rescue dog. I much regretted it especially when I found out he had sold it on after losing his job. When the dog was run over I bought a K1300R. Had it a few years & replaced it with an R1200R LC thinking insurance would be cheaper. It wasn't & at 78 I'm now finding it difficult to get insurance. Of the 4 bikes I've had the Adventure was far my favourite. Taking me to eastern Europe & even commuting into central London for a year before taking EVR. The GSs are all really great bikes
Wow great comment. RIP the dog and hope it’s the daughter’s ex-friend? 👍🏻
It’s such a pleasure to listen to you. So clear and understandable for audience all over the world. Congratulations with your choice and cheers from Ukraine 🇺🇦
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Thanks Yurly. Not sure how I’ve become clear but glad it works for people who do not have English as a first language 👍🏻
I'm swapping my trusty 2004 R1200GS for a new R1250GS Adventure Rallye TE at North Oxford on the 1st sept too
Your reviews along with others and a test ride helped me take the plunge 👍🏻
Good news Paul. Say hello if I’m there when you are 👍🏻
Very helpful advice Nick, I’m getting mine next year so will be following your content.
Thanks for watching and enjoy yours next year 👍🏻
Really enjoyed watching your video Nick, found it very interesting and I feel that I’m almost as excited as you!! Roll on September 😊
All along for the ride 👍🏻
Congratulations - hope you enjoy the new bike! I think you’ve made the right choice 🙂
I think so although I shall miss Bertha
Congrats Nick! Looking forward to get mine next year. Already followed the channel but going to follow even closer!
Cheers Antonio and good luck getting yours sorted 👍🏻
Hi again Nick, further to my comment below, I have since ordered a new GS Exclusive and thanks to your “ buy on eBay” vid just saved £430, cheers. Ps, I didn’t need to explain my actions to my wife either, she,s got bikes too😉
Well done Barney. Although mine is very understanding 😂
Good to hear the (right) decision Nick, congrats. I ride the GSA Excl with the Bumot system and very pleased. Had them on my previous GSA so 3-years old now and not a mark on them. Very robust and completely waterproof. Also use the bags which are perfectly contoured to the shape,
Peter Wallace Same here in frozen grey...
Thanks for the tips Peter
Enjoy your new purchase. Happy riding
Thanks Ben 👍🏻
Well done. Excellent. You will love it. Denali D7 or D4 lighting products are going to open up the roads for you. I hope you also consider the Denali Sound Bomb horn. A must IMHO. Ride safe and ride often. Congrats on the whole lot. Life’s way too short. Just buy what you like. Don’t worry so much about it. You payed your dues Mate. Peace.
Yep for sure I’ll enjoy. I’m swapping sound bomb and D4s off current one. More work 👍🏻
Enjoy the new bike! Bumot luggage every time. Much much better than the alternatives. Have used for the last three years and 25,000 miles on my previous and current GSA. Waterproof and dustproof as advertised with an excellent rubber seal around the lids. The hinges are great too as have resistance on them so only move when you want them to. Use them on the std BMW racks, which are only four Torx bolts if you want to remove them when not using the boxes.
Thanks Scott. There’s a veritable army of Bumot supporters
Nick Hodge Hi Nick, due to a change of bike I am looking to sell my Bumot panniers with matching inner bags and top box. All three are in the Black finish. Let me know if interested.
Nice choise. You will love your bike more and more when you drive it 🙂. We wait for more good info from you, when you got your fantastic new bike.
Thanks Arve. I’m looking forward to it
Congratulations Nick I knew you would go for the GSA you will love it well done. 👍
Thanks Johnny 👍🏻
Congratulations 🥳
Thanks Darshan 👍🏻
You’re like my ex. She always told me how much money she’d saved when she went shopping during sales...🤣
‘Two for the price of one!’.... but we didn’t want any 😂😂
I’ve had my Givi Outback Trekkers fitted to my 2014 GS for 6 years now. The top box has been used almost every single day, Winter, Summer and everything in between. These cases have taken everything I have thrown at them. 100% waterproof, dropped fully laden in Croatia and no problems. I went for the black anodised version. I cannot comment on the other brands but recommend Givi. If you do choose Givi plan on getting the key barrel set otherwise you need to carry 3 different keys with you! Take care and enjoy your new beast.
Thanks for the advise. It’s between two as I sit here. The SW Motech have gone. Just now Givi (where I started) and Bumot so many are recommending. Decisions eh? 👍🏻
As others have said,. You are exactly the same as us all when we justify a new bike to our wife's !! savings here, savings there, savings everywhere..honest my love Classic!!!!! well done! enjoy.
Cheers Barney 👍🏻
Congratulations Nick! A word of caution about Givi top box mounting plates - my one is made of aluminium and ruptures from riding on unsurfaced roads or bad tarmac. Replace it and it ruptures again! My advice is to ensure that all pannier and top box mounts are made of steel. The Bulov (?) kit looked to be a good option. Btw, remember your fellow CZcamsr, Moto Phoenix (also in Soton or Hants I believe), has done 400,000 miles on his BMW airhead GS - your one is barely run-in! Stay safe and enjoy riding😉
Thanks Ernie. The luggage choice is here awaiting the bike. Watch this space 👍🏻
Congratulations. My bike landed today. R1250 GS Adventure, HP Style variant. I am going with the original BMW aluminium panniers in Black as they are currently on 30% discount in India, costing approx a 1000£ landed with 8 locks here.
Congratulations to you to Dhiraj!!! Look after it and it’ll look after you. Ride safe 👍🏻
Congrats! Enjoy the bike, I love mine.
Cheers Patrick. I’m looking forward to it
Glad your treating yourself enjoy👍❤️
Thanks Anthony
Good choice, love the road presence of the gsa.
Thanks Eric. Me too 👍🏻
A very thorough justification for upgrading (is that a word here) to the GSA. According to your riding style mostly road/ hwy. I think it would be a different matter if you were travelling off road. The weight of the gsa with all the kit might be a bit more challenging. Up in Canada we have a number of off road trails to tackle. I plan to upgrade my 2009 gs to the 2020 gs so your review of your past bike was very informative. Thankyou for that. Cheers, 64yrs and still going.
Hi Markus. Just doing my 1600 mile UK tour from autumn 2020 that was mostly highway but I now have better idea of differences too. Thanks for the age encouragement too. Ride safe 👍🏻
Belgium : the TE isn’t a thing. 😉 But I still own a 1250 GS Adventure fully loaded ! A dream !!
Loved all my GS’s Jean-luc Ride safe 👍🏻
Had mine since March last year, added a full set of frozen grey Bumot panniers, love it. The panniers are superb looking , waterproof and narrower than the handlebars. So many people ask about them, talk to Cliff at the Adventure Bike Shop in Suffolk.
Been on to them this morning. Moving slowly that way 😂
Nick, happy birthday tomorrow and congratulations!I got my new GSA two weeks ago, HP, low suspension and HP Billet pack. Amazing... I always liked the full (no low suspension) version, but after testing it out and now using the bike, the low suspension is absolute must for people of similar height like me, i.e. 5’9”.
Thanks Martin. Glad the bike’s working out well. Ride safe 👍🏻
Have it while you can! A couple of observations which might be useful. I wouldn't have the frames with the twist fittings as someone could nick those while you're away and then you'd be really stuffed. I've just bought some tank protection for my GS TE exclusive as the matt paint marks so easily so you might want to fit that too? I had both the alarm and SOS button on my last bike but didn't spec them on this as the Alarm was so pathetic and on my GS at least there was no fob so you had to either have it in auto alarm mode which was a PITA or off. I didn't spec the SOS button as where I ride the mobile signal is often poor so it was bringing up the large error message on the TFT virtually every ride I went on so I now have the what3words app which isn't quite as good but it's free. Enjoy your new GSA, no doubt we'll see it soon😉
Cheers Adrian. Couple of points. The alarm has a fob on mine. It’s the BMW logo in the middle of the key. Once I think for alarm and twice for alarm/immobiliser but don’t test me on that 😂 the SoS incessantly popping up on TFT I had with my late 1200 but a TFT software update used a longer timer ‘out of service’ with the SIM to stop that. I’ve never used it but have spoken to one person on a ride in his own who tumbled. It worked flawlessly although he had the operator hold on and in the end did extrapolate himself from under the bike 😬
@@nickhodgeUK That's good to know they've come to their senses Nick. I always felt cheated not having a fob with my my2016 1200 when other BMWs had one and as I said it was a pain to use e.g. when moving the bike around as I needed to have the ignition on or the alarm would go off. If I'd known they'd fixed the problem of the SOS system bringing up the warning so often I might have spec'd it again as I can see the benefits of when it works properly but it became too distracting for me on my my2018 1200 which was why I didn't go for it this time not knowing they'd done something about it. Doh........
Congratulations Nick great choice!
Thanks Allen
Hi Nick. I still have a 1150 GS in Zambia and one in Glasgow. I have held back all through the later models but the new model you are going for is my next upgrade. Well done..You don’t need to justify .... its bloody good!!!
Thanks Keith, A girl In every port..... :)
Congratulations on your new bike Nick, you'll not regret the change. You already know my thoughts on the Bumot cases (brilliant), so there is nothing more I can add there other than you can also get bespoke inner bags for the cases which cost (I bought mine in 2017) £40 each - a bargain! Look forward to your swap over/collection video. Cheers, Andy.
Thanks Andy. It was all great input but now more choices 👍🏻
Congratulations Nick, great decision, looking forward with shared excitement to you collecting your new magnificent bike. Regarding luggage I’ve got the BMW system which I bought with the bike and it’s excellent but I did see Bumot panniers referenced by the RiderCamTV boys and they do look good so worth a watch. I also think that the luggage bars offer some protection if (or when!) you drop your bike so I’d leave them on if you go for a removable set up. Cheers Charlie
Good point that Charlie. Just watched both RC TV vids and think I’ve discounted the SW motech and your comment strengthens that 👍🏻
Welcome to the club!
Nikos World thanks Nikos 👍🏻
Congratulations on the new bike.
Thanks a lot 👍🏻
Hi Nick, hope you are well and great decision there! You may recall I commented on the last vid saying I had just bought the R1250GS Adventure TE Exclusive as well, 2 weeks later and definitely no regrets! In regards to luggage, I had the the GIVI Trekkers on my Vstrom1000 that I traded in for the BMW, and I now have the Bumots on the BMW after a lot of research (Adventure Bike TV on CZcams have a great vid in season one testing different panniers, which includes dropping them off cliffs and shooting them with crossbows!). I never had an issue with the GIVI Trekkers, and in fact am still using the top box on the BMW, however I have a lot more confidence in the Bumots and they feel like they secure to the racks much more strongly. I have never heard of any issues with the GIVI Trekkers coming off, but I was never 100% confident in the mechanism that holds them on. The other nice thing about the Bumots is that they sit within the the width of the handlebars, so filtering with them on is easy. In regards to the toolbox, I also had the GIVI one on the Vstrom. I now have the touratech one that fits on the BMW pannier rack. They both cost roughly the same, but the Touratech one is bigger, stronger and the locking mechanism is much better. Now, I don't work for them, so please don't think this is an add (I just believe is supporting small businesses), but I bought my Bumots and Touratech toolbox from The Adventure Bike Shop. They are a lovely little family run business and they currently have a code for 10% off everything when you order online at the moment 👍🏻
Did you get the defenders or defender EVOs??
@@nickhodgeUK I got the evos, just because they look a little less industrial and fit the lines of the bike nicely. £699 for the pannier pair, but the discount code knocked £70 off. You can also choose to pick up in store, so I put what I saved in delivery into the fuel tank and had a nice ride out to pick them up, just popping them on the BMW racks when I got there. www.adventurebikeshop.co.uk/hard-luggage/bumot-defender-evo-panniers-top-box-bmw-f850gsa-2018-onr12001250gsa-lc-2014-on-using-bmw-mounts/
Ash Morgan yes just spoken to them and it seems the Defenders are discontinued in favour of the curvier lines of the Evos. He’s offering the 10% and free shipping. God I hate these dilemmas!!
Never owned Givi products? So no comment, but SW motech are very good quality from what I have owned and seen. I like the "no scaffold of that other brand" Again great video thank you. Can't wait to see your new bike and the fun of outfitting of it.
Cheers Glenn. Watch this space
Nick … be careful ! 😳. The key thing …
This applies more to you guys in traffic ridden U.K. (I’ve retired to the Algarve where we only have sunny, beautifully surfaced, empty roads )… is the question: “Can you filter on it?”
For the GSA; you can’t!
The aluminium cans are wider than the handlebars .. and hence you can’t filter.
The R1250GS TE tends to be equipped with vario panniers .
These are narrower than the bars and enable you to filter through traffic!
Utter madness imho, if you live in the U.K. to buy a bike that constrains you to sitting in traffic.
Now we disagree. My panniers (Bumot 45 and 37) are well inside the bars and narrower than fully expanded Varios. Generally I only fit panniers at the same times as I would fully expand the varios I had in my GS (week tour) so filtering is truly no different. Also the hazards flashing the Denali spots alternating tends to move most aside too. I do agree the Algarve would be much better overall though. Ride safe 👍🏻
Look forward in assisting in any way I can 👍🏽
Cheers Steve. Send email soon 👍🏻
Well presented and thanks for sharing
Thanks Steven 👍🏻
Brilliant Nick 👌 what can I say great choice enjoy
Steven
Thanks Steven. Still hoping so 😂👍🏻
Hi Nick, glad to hear you have taken mine and others advice, hope to see you at North Oxford when I’m picking up my 1250 Exclusive.
Cheers Ed. When’s yours in?
Nick Hodge. Had a mail from Josh yesterday to say it had arrived. When is your’s due?
Ed Franklin Rian said at the weekend it’s due with them in the ‘next week or so’ and the 70 regs will be available in a couple of weeks. Need to get there fairly early on 1st as have a few accessory fits to do and also get past 1st service by 18th as off for a week to [Spain], [France], [Scotland], [Wales], [Devon/Cornwall], (delete as appropriate for Covid) 😂
Nick Hodge We had booked ferry to Bibao for our trip to Portugal, southern Spain, and France but still not sure if we cancelled a bit early, so spent the holiday money upgrading to a new GS.
Ed Franklin money well spent though 😂
Brilliant choice, I’m picking up exactly the same bike on the 1st September. They threw in black panniers and a Nav 6 for free too.
saltysanta good deal 👍🏻 ride safe
That’s an amazing deal there.
My black boxes were nearly £1800 and the Nav was nearly £750.
Got a good deal.
Well done.
Antony Barnett yep boy done well. 👍🏻
Where did you get that deal?
Ride in good health and have a great 61st
Thanks Vincent 👍🏻
Very simple - buy one of each and cover all the bases. If not possible, buy the one you can afford. Both great choices. My needs are the large tank & extra factory options, which are cheaper than fitting individually. The standard GS, does however feel like a motocross bike after riding the GSA.
Thanks for the comment. Think both may have been a stretch 😂
just bought the Bumot Evo today Adventure Bike Shop are doing 10% off in Aug so as little at £100.00 difference to Givi and no contest really, you can open the Bumot Lids while you have the 58 ltr Givi top box on, you will have to dismount the Givi lids on the panniers to get anything out of them, Bumot also have a friction hinge on the lid so you wont loose you fingers when the lid catches the wind. They seem excellent, frames are Zinc coated then power coated good value for money !!. Dont forget you by cheap you buy twice. LOL
They certainly have a following. It’s down to just them and Givi now
Congrats brother. The aluminium cases and top box are definitely the way to go. Reference the "road tax" in the UK, here in Queensland, Australia our m/cycle registration is about $460.00 per year if you leave the bike as a two seater. If you go solo, it's about $340.00 per year.I always solo my bikes as my wife has no interest in being a pillion. Yay for small mercy's!! More to spend on accessories. SW motech make a great system with their adventure trax alu panniers and top boxes. Again, congrats and look forward to your first ride on the new girl, And her name will be? Ride safe, stay healthy.
Cheers Andrew. Naming has to wait until I’m astride! That’s quite a whopping licensing fee and discriminatory on number of passengers but guess if you’re never going to and it saves cash 👍🏻
There a good bunch of lads at North Oxford, I might get the 1250 soon. Good decision and happy birthday
Thanks a lot 👍🏻
Congratulations wit the gsa
Thank you 👍🏻
Greet blog good luck with the new bike. They are 2 tall for me.
Hi Stephen. If I don’t hurry they will be for me too 😂
Thanks for sharing Nick, I'm looking forward to seeing the delivery/first ride video... I'm also called Nick; you gave me the details of Doncaster BMW dealer (Melbourne, Australia) and I've created a new channel/user name for vlogging for when I eventually get my GSA - if we ever get out of Stage 4 lockdown, we can't even go to a dealer at the moment! Thanks again, all the best (previously DNS1)
Sorry this got caught in the CZcams spamsphere somehow. Great job. Look forward to seeing how you progress 👍🏻
Congratulations on your new bike, you only live once so why not! I guess we did see that coming !
One thing i do if I'm part exchanging a bike is to take off all accessories from the bike as the dealers don't normally give you anymore money regardless of whats on your bike, with the GS being such a popular model selling the accesories would not be a problem, When i bought my GS this year i was looking for 2nd hand Vario cases and top box and i would have happily paid £££s for them but couldn't find any for sale, so i ended up buying new ones, likewise with the crash bars. i look foreword to seeing the new bike..i bet your feeling like a kid at christmas!
Cheers Dougie. It’s strange. In general they want the varios back as I think the bike has to have something and that’s more common GS fitment. The bars I think I could have insisted but they had a small battle scar where she went off the side stand so expect they’ll remove them anyhow? 👍🏻
The one item not mentioned was insurance, has the premium gone up due to the increased bike value?
Its possible BMW bikes will increase by at least 10%, plus 20% VAT on the 10%, and another price rise maybe included if sterling depreciates, I discussed matter with BMW salesmen and he said that BMW U.K. are preparing for the price hike. Therefore you have made a further saving on paper depending on circumstances next year.
I thought about changing from an RT to the GSA, I live in London bike parked on driveway, comprehensive insurance for RT £120.00, GSA £850.00 refused to quote for TPFT? I have a 5 series car, much higher value than bike, insurance £350.00. It’s probably the risk of theft aspect. Need to move to somewhere with a concrete bomb shelter for a garage.
Happy birthday, great month for a birthday, always happy memories of sunny B’days and enjoy many miles of safe riding on the GSA. Many happy returns of the day, J
Thanks Jean. The insurance was £11 more for the remainder of my policy to Nov 3rd so two months I’m only expecting £60/£70pa which was another thing I checked. It does have alarm and tracker and in garage so all those help and certainly outside London. Why can’t people buy their own stuff 😡
Nick Hodge Probably an acceptable insurance increase, not that we have much choice in the matter. Potential £2500 price hike for 2021 model post 1.1.21. Places bike beyond what I’m prepared to pay, plus £850 pa insurance, I’ll stick with the RT and developing hip discomfort, old age. Boys and their toys, J
I went through the same 'man maths' a year last may when I traded in a 2 year 7K Triple Black GSA for the HP GSA. At that time there was only the 2 year warranty so I factored 3 years of extended warranty for the TB to my calculation :) Enjoy your new ride.
It’s all justification. If you buy most moving vehicles expecting an investment you’re going to be disappointed. If you keep waiting for a new ride you’ll be dead. And that lasts a looooong time 😂
@@nickhodgeUK It's a fair justification, also the fact that in 3 years time you'll have a bike to trade in that worth 3 grand more than for a six year old bike. Appreciate that the price off the bike in on the part ex, but think you got a good deal Nick.
Proper man maths there! Fair play
Honed over many years 😂
Congrats Nick! Still think you should get an RT hahaha
Believe me Daniel. I considered that too but I think it may be the 1600 when I’m ready for all-out tourer 👍🏻
Hi Nick, new subscriber, I've just gone from a 2016 1200 GS to a 2020 1250GS, I couldn't justify the extra for a GSA myself, but I have transferred the pannier rack for my Bumot panniers. I already had a black 42litre Givi topbox on the 1200, so again refitted to the 1250. I don't keep the panniers on all the time (too bulky) but they look good and do the business when touring, and no problem with water. Great channel, very informative. Barry.
Cheers Barry. Welcome along and great input 👍🏻
Congratulations on your new bike , I have the GSA also it’s my second , I’ve never owned a standard GS , I prefer the presence of the GSA and the thirty litre tank and the protection it gives , I am quite a big guy at 6’5” and 19 stone and with the larger screen the GSA suits me better , I’ve got the original bmw aluminum panniers , but next time around I am going with the Bumot , firstly they fit the standard OEM racks and they are really well made , plus they are completely waterproof
Thanks Stuart. More dilemmas. Not sure if it’s pleasure or pain 😂
Congratulations on deciding to go with the GSA! My personal favorite! The Givi's are an excellent choice for the top box. But if it was me buying these farkles, I'd go with the Jesse Luggage Challenger panniers. They don't work with the factory mounting racks but are a better investment IMHO than all the other side panniers in the market. Whatever you choose, good luck and Happy Touring with the GSA!
Thanks for the comments. The Jesse’s have been a late arrival to the party 👍🏻
Or Touratech panniers, just a thought. Well done on the bike mate.
Thanks. Looking forward to getting it and a few ‘reveal’ videos 👍🏻
RiderCamTV have a couple of videos about the Bumot boxes , one showing them on the bike and the other comparing them against other . Well worth a look
Yep. On it today Mark. Beats working 😂😂
I have the Lone Rider semi rigid bags and love them. Wouldn’t get Alu bags as they can get leaky as they get older / damaged. I’ve heard good things about Mosko and BMW Atacama soft bags as well.
Thanks for the comment. I think soft bags randomly are for those using the bike ‘harder’ and certainly on trail 👍🏻
Well done Nick, good choice. Roll on the 1st September, 70 Reg. YOLO! 👍
Thanks Iain. Indeed although I’ll have lots of work removing and refitting over a week or two it seems
@@nickhodgeUK It will be rewarding and worth it!
Do your wife / daughter(s) watch your CZcams channel???
Iain Ian fortunately no 😂
@@nickhodgeUK Happy days then! 😎
Get what you can afford and like.
I believe the balance is satisfaction vs price/payments. I get a lot of satisfaction out of my old 07 GSA I have $6000USD in. I would not be happy with payments on a new GS, but that is me. In 10-15 years, maybe that changes.
You’re just how motorcyclists build ‘stables’. That bike will owe you nothing so reckon you’ll keep it and just buy a new one in a few years. Mate with a GS did the same with his Rocket III. Dealer offered him £5k was worth more to him than that so he kept it (doesn’t ride it much but can when he wants and she’ll always stay pretty!
I like your luggage choices. I have Jesse panniers on my GSA and like them a lot. I suspect that they are not available in the UK, as they are a small US vendor. One other thing that you may wish to consider is getting Michelin Anakee Adventure tires. They are a 80/20 tire, and superb on the road and good on the dirt (not mud or snow). But a great all around tire. Congrats on your new bike.
Thanks James. I’m not sure what it comes with but will find out 👍🏻
Your dealer should be able to order them for you. I paid no premium for the Michelin’s. Good luck.
Excelent choice, i have the sw motech aluminium luggage. Cant fit my helmets (shoei neotec 2 and shoei gt air 2) in the big side case though...
I am also considering the change for the 1250 gsa but i am waiting to see the new 2021 models
Be interesting to see the new models but here in the UK it is possible without a deal with the EU they may be much more expensive. I suspect only temporarily as European manufacturers will create mayhem if their prices jump 20%. I heard from my dealer Euro 5 compliance and probably change of colours as some have already done???
New 2021 will likely just have a new paint color.
You have loads of years left Nick, I’m 73 and ride a BMWK1300s, a BMW S1000rr and a Supercharged Rocker c. Enjoy. K x. ..
I’ll try and follow your example Karen 👍🏻
Great choice, just waiting for my bike to be rego’d, hopefully the dealership has it done by tomorrow. Here in Australia we mostly get the bikes with all of the packs because you probably won’t sell it second hand without them. That’s how I ordered mine, no SOS here of course but I’m ok with that. I was tempted by the Kalmata, very stylish but I have a weak spot for the Rallye version (HP) so I went that way, going for the Bumot soft side bags and a black alloy top box. I know I’m going to enjoy mine, I’m sure you will enjoy yours.
Still waiting eh? Frustrating. I do love the HP in fact it looks even better in the newly announced 2021 colour on the ‘M’ S1000XR. Really 😍
Nick Hodge picked up the bike on Wednesday afternoon, I can vouch for it being a very good choice, just loving it. At 50 I might be a bit late to the adventure tourer game but at least I’ve started right.
TheTripleDubya aka Dubya 07 fantastic. Enjoy and ride safe 👍🏻 (within the same state it seems 😂)
Nick Hodge ha ha, yes indeed, thankfully it’s a pretty big state with everything from outback bush to snowy mountains. Looking forward to September for you.
Take a look at bumot panniers, amazing quality.
I've had a set on the r1200gs lc adventure, and couldn't fault them.
They’re on the final choice list
I road tested both bikes baking to back. I preferred the adventure. Had two now. Still got my gsa 1250 exclusive te same colour. Great bike. Ample power great presence and extremely comfortable
Just need the next month to pass now
We should meet up for a ride out sometime.
Just put on some road fives on my gsa. Great tyres.
Captain Pugwash rides where about are you?
I’m in the north west England. Hop skip and a jump to lakes Peak District Yorkshire dales and of push comes to shove wales.
Captain Pugwash rides a CZcams channel ride out. Did wales last year, loved it and passed your door last August to Scotland 👍🏻
Congrats for making it to a proper hooligan geezer.. Up the Chelsea...
Hello Nick..
I knew you'd swap....👍😁
I've had my GSA 1250TE for coming up to 1 year and it's a great machine (despite the front calipers leaking like a sieve!). It's only covered 2700 miles thanks in the main to the Covid overreaction! (Another story!)
Congratulations on your decision! You won't regret it. As I mentioned last time I commented, it's worth it for the fuel range alone. On a recent 'bimble' I had a 390 mile range and covered 360 with plenty of juice left.
Pannier wise.. I have BMW black ally but only because I got a good (ish) deal and 0% finance. The Bumot would be my choice. Nowt wrong with the other stuff at all, but I think the Bumot are slightly more 'engineered' myself. Which ever way you go, you'll love it!
Keep us posted on the pick up, accessories install etc..
I'm heading (hopegully) to the Ardennes on mine early September. Maybe!🤞🤞
We’re all a bit ‘maybe’ at the minute. Hoping to do Spanish-side Pyrenees mid-September so 🤞🏻 here too 👍🏻
Should indeed go for Bumot boxes coz it's totally waterproof. Needless to say, u are saving on the pannier's rack. Whereas, Givi one's just water resistance. I used that before n was horrendous. Heavy rains, water will sip in defo. Kinda flooded inside. Lol. As for SW Motech, I'm unable to give any reviews. Never use that before. Hope this helps!
Cheers Henry. I’m edging toward Bumot. Nothing’s got everything. That’s the trouble 😂
Can i just say, when i owned the Givi boxes, a few years ago, the racks, also, were detacherble by the use of a quick release tool.
Couple have said that Michael. I wonder if they changed when they went to the Monokey models in 2018?
Hi Nick, I can't really comment about the shift the GSA being that I'm a recent convert go the GS myself, buying an HP 1250GS TE in March (excellent timing!). I have however bought the givi 58litre top box which is very good but I find a little wide and not very deep. Neither is a problem but it could do with another couple of inches in depth really. Another manufacturer you might like to investigate however is Bullshift. I've been considering getting Just their panniers. They do come with racks and boxes and appear to be well reviewed. Might be worth a look.
Thanks Matt. I’m not a lover of luggage at all really. Small top box that’d fit my lid would be fine but when it’s a week or more, or a day trip with a pillion there’s never enough room! I’ll take a look at your suggestion but I see another in the next comment. I’m trying to cut down the choices 😂👍🏻
Best Man Maths ever
Good eh Paul? Got to shell it out next week 😂
Look forward to seeing it.
I have the Givi Trekker racks on my R1250GS which are also detachable racks. Which is very handy, they require a special key to take them off, so you can do work/clean the rear end without the frames being in the way.
By the way have you seen the reports regarding “The gs’s not starting due to battery/ valve problems ? Search “BMW R1250 starting problems” some people have been having quite a few problems. BMW not being particularly helpful, still read the threads, there is about 10 pages of it. Also do the same search on YOU TUBE see what you think !!!
I’ll take a look thanks. 👍🏻
Hi Nick, great video. Have you looked at the Jesse luggage? I know there are a lot of options but if you have not looked at them it might be another option for you.
Thanks David. Like I need another choice 😂😂👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK btw, I like your choice of going to the GSA. I am looking to go with one too.
Hi Nick. whatever inspires you...! Will tune into your channel in 4 years time and see what you are riding.... not being cynical,but in my opinion absolutely nothing wrong with a standard GS TE Exclusive model whether it be a 1200 or a 1250 .... how often do you absolutely need the extra range of the Adventure ? Probably never .... I find the prospect of the extra weight and size of the A an encumbrance and can see why many actually go for the 800...
That’s not cynical. I love my GS. It isn’t just the tank but that for sure is an factor. We should never lose sight of it’s an exciting new bike too. Even if it were another GS. Maybe in 4 years time though it may be an RT or K1600??
Must get you to pen all that to my missus the next time I change..." Look love a brand new bike and BMW gave me 13K"
I’m expert 😂
Nick, first of all congratulations with your « tough » decision... I am glad you made switched to the GSA. You will see that the GSA will offer you even more independent joy.
About the luggage. I do have the original top box from BMW as well as the big 58 liter from Givi. They are interchangable as long as you mount an adaptor plate (only 6 screws). Somehowe I do prefer more the quality from the original BMW site panniers (which I also have on my bike). The 58 liter top box from Givi is really bulky and you can put a lot of stuff in. You can een combine that big GIVI 58 liter top box with the original site panniers van BMW because the site panniers can still open. I was a little afraid it wouldn’t work, but it does. Next to the original alumunium site panniers from BMW, I have the soft panniers from Bumot which indeed fit perfectly on the original BMW racks. These soft panniers are a little small, but I think they’re perfoect when you go more off road. To be honest, I use these soft panniers to practice slow manoevers with that big bike and then I fill them up with empty PET coke bottles. At every site of the bike, they are great cushions in case I drop my (expensive) bike. I am sure you will enjoy your switch. On my previous (F700GS) bike, I had all the paniers from GIVI, which are not bad a all, but for some reason, If ind the quality (especially the racks) from the original BMW better. Ride safe!!
Thanks Kim. My head is turning toward Bumot AND 58L Givi. Because I’m greedy. As you say just a small plate change and I would probably only use the 58L on long trips. Ride safe too
I think that would indeed be a perfect combination. The 58l Givi is really bulky and the Bumot hard case panniers would be ideal to combine with that because they flip open from the inside to the outside of the bike. In this way you won’t hava a problem (or take the risk) that when opening the site cases, you’re touching that big top box. Only (small) downside is that you will have 2 additional different keys to carry.
Aw, pannier decisions. You don't seem to be concerned with overall width and that gives you plenty of choices. I live in southern California and lane split a lot of the time. While it's true you can save the side panniers for when you are touring, I like the idea of panniers that are within the handlebars. If you measure from lever to lever that width is around 38". If you measure from the actual outside of the bar ends it is around 36". The BMW boxes are well over 40" (42" I think?), the Givi set up you referenced is around 41" and the SW Motech are right at 40". That is one of the main benefits of the Vario system. Expanded they are 37" and collapsed they are 32" or so. The Bumot 38L set is 37.5" which is just inside the levers. However, the Globe Scout set up is 35.5". Decisions, decisions. I'm leaning towards the Globe Scout because they are within the overall width of the bike and their scaffolding is removable like the SW Motec setup. I might also get the Vario side panniers with an aluminum top box.
I agree I really want them within the width of the handlebars as an advantage of a motorcycle is motorway jams with cars and passengers overheating. The luggage system is here (2 weeks before the bike!!) watch this space 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Can't wait!
You are certainly aware of the fact that BMW is about to revise their GS1250’s?! My dealer told me just last week that BMW currently accepts no new orders, they only sell what they still have in stock (which due to the COVID-19-situation is still a good amount of bikes).
Best regards!
Yes. Not sure what changes. They are certainly moving to Euro 5 emissions and they are currently revising colourways for 2021. As the bike is only 2 years since 1250/shift cam I’m not expecting revolution. We’ll see though
I still have the Givi panniers off my old GS. Buy the BMW GSA panniers
thought you would go with the GSA congrats, the luggage i vote for the Bulgarian ones, stand out from the crowd (says the bloke with a Gs and vario panniers)
I know Gary. You’re never going to be unique with any kind of GS. 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK 100,00 of bikes can't be all wrong ;)
gary shuttleworth I saw a ‘blind’ gin test once with ‘foodies’. Gordon’s won it and that is why it’s so popular 🤷♂️
Good morning from Greece Nick. 🇬🇷Very good choise BmwR1250GSA. About panniers did u see Lone rider bags? I think its Avery good choise.
I looked at soft luggage for sure but feel it more appropriate when used off road as there is more chance of legs/feet getting caught and less chance of bad damage 👍🏻
Hi Nick, If you did go for the Givi box’s sides and top! Could you code the BMW key to them?
No. In fact the Givi boxes don’t even come keyed-alike but they so a 2,3,4 or 5 pack of keyed-alike ‘High security’ licks so you only need carry one key for all boxes. Charge approx £15 per lock
Nick Hodge that is expensive, sw motech sells 6 locks with keys for ~20€
Miguel Martins there’s nothing inexpensive on motorcycles it seems 😂. They sell them as hi-security which sort of intimates they are different to the standard ones but also implies the standard ones are not hi-security 🤷♂️
Is there a technical reason you are switching the bike that's missing in the GS compared to the GSA apart from the tank ?
Hi Jayraj. The GS is a superb bike. I’ve loved mine and the decision to swap is very small. Weather protection, range and road presence are the main ones. It’s a new bike I can afford and it’s looks to me are other less significant ones 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK thanks Nick. That helps. I loved the GS. Will be buying it next year. Unable to ride anywhere this year as interstate travel is closed in india.
Hello Nick, helpful update thank you. Re the Bumont panniers, useful reviews by your countrymen at RiderCamTV (utube) on your very same dilemma and the Bumont won out because of the factors you raised. Cheers, Max (Australia)
Yes I’ll take a look at that today Max. Thanks
How much do you want for the Denali D4s and cansmart?
They're already sold I'm afraid
Bumot Panniers all the way !!
They certainly are well made
GSA is about .8” inch taller than GS, is the additional height problematic for you? Did you consider GSA low which has about the same suspension travel and seat height as standard GS?
Yes height is fine I’m 6ft 1 (over 1.8m) so it’s still just about both flat-feet
Nick Hodge I appreciate the comment. I’ve also 6’1” with a 34 inch inseam, I like a tall seat to reduce knee bend. I’m seriously thinking of a GSA low, This will give me the same suspension travel and height as a standard GS. Happy trails and I look forward to your next video. Currently riding an Africa twin in California but like you, I want something with better wind protection, and a 19 inch front wheel for street riding.
panniers take a look at SW Motch Trax they look better and are more robust, practicable,and come with an array of accessories i.e. picnic table if you want one.
Thank Mick
You didn't mention the thousands of pounds lost on both bikes thro depreciation !!
Ha ha. You didn’t watch the whole video. I ran down it warts and all. However it’s still cheaper than boating and marriage 😂