Adventure Sidecar Tips from Helge Pedersen
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- Adventure motorcycling legend Helge Pedersen guest hosts and explains the pro's and con's of touring the globe with his amazing new sidecar rig.
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The forest and river shots are near the Carbon Glacier Trail on NF road #7810 at the edge of Mt, Rainier National Park.
The dirt road with a view shots on NF road #2767 just south of Quilcene, WA in Olympic National Park. goo.gl/maps/Pupvv21W8c52
Very good choise
how much did you spend on the sidecar outfit. and a big thanks Mr Pedersen.
the part from 6:05 is from another video? thanks
Please visit philippines....you find a lot of side car
@@elizabethmoran7129 To order a new sidecar like this and you have your own motorcycle will come to more than US$30,000.-, so not cheep, but that has all the bells and whistles.
My dad got a Zündapp 750 from 1943 in the beginning of the year. We have been working on it since and I've to say amazing machine even though i lean more towards dirt bikes. The quality and details are just stunning. Everything is done with the finest touch and in time consuming way, which is a bit crazy considering Germans were losing the war. Anyway we are planning on taking it back to where it fought in ww2, Lapland. Putting camping gear and fuel in to the sidecar. Going to be fun!
#Pekka'OErilainen That is quite a story and super cool that you can do this. I used to live in Lakselv in Finmark, Norway. Great riding in the summer with daylight 24/7, but watch out for the mosquitos when you go camping. Best of luck to you and have lots of fun, very nice project.
People like you make getting old something cool! Thanks! Keep going making so interesting videos! Cheers!
I own a 2017 Ural patrol model and have 11,000 km on her. I have no mechanical issues at all. I ride all four seasons up here in Canada. She has electronic fuel injection and modern components. The Ural has changed from the early bikes that were brought over from Russia. The issues with sloppy machining and poor fit up have been eliminated. The bike isn't built for speed but instead was built as a real workhorse. I haven't seen a bike yet that will pull me away from my beloved Ural.
That is great news about the later Ural models. Next year my company, GlobeRiders, will do another, what we call, "World Tour" and hope to once again visit the Ural factory in Irbit, Russia. First time I were there was in 2002 and the factory was in a rather miserable state. Very happy for you having found a rig that you love that give you so much joy. I feel the same with the sidecar rig that I have today and that is a good feeling. I do need a rig that can keep up the speed and cover long distances during our journeys so the Ural might still not fit my bill. Thanks for sharing and happy trails to you.
Guy Lefebvre, CD
I have never had a motorcycle. Would like to purchase one. Is the sidecar easy to ride, and is it more stable...? Would it be easy to learn to ride.
on his, on his - Ural is mascular !!!
And I guess it's the only one on the market that comes with a two wheel drive? Integrating that in to e g a BMW will be quite an (expensive) engineering challenge!
Ural*
*Individual experiences may vary.
There are some older Urals, when internals are updated to modern moving parts, that are incredibly reliable and durable. But then you have ones like my 2012 I bought used with 1,100km on it in Oct 2017, where the crankshaft, head gaskets, final drive, and starter failed in under 15,000km. All metalurgical issues. Even so, I still prefer carbed Urals. Through experience, I've learned to fix it enough to get me home in every case. I can't say the same for my EFI Kawi.
Riden bikes over 50 yrs, rode trikes in 80s and loved that, built my own sidecar 6 yrs ago and it's the best fun ever, still love bikes but sidecars are such a different animal, it doesn't suit everyone but it does me.. 👍👍👍
He explained it in such fun way....i felt like child from playgroup 😂🖤
#Prithviejsutar Glad you enjoyed the video and we are all kids disguised in a older body. Never let go of your inner child!
Thanks Helge. Great piece MotoTrek.
A wonderful episode. Thanks for sharing.
Mauricio from Ciudad del Carmen, México.
"give it a try, it's not gonna hurt..hopefully" lol. Great vid.
Whether it does or doesn't he should definitely film it, lol its so much cooler when its on film. Preferably he should do a go pro or drone cam. I would so watch that.
Until you rollover, yeah
I met some retired special forces Army guys last year that did a trip with side car bikes from Alaska through the Darian gap to Argentina. They said the side car was amazing in Alaska for the stability on icey roads. I would love to try it some day.
You should try it, it is one of these things that you have no idea if you like it or not before you give it a good try.
@@helgepedersen877 I took a ride in a ural during overland expo 2017 and you are right....its fun, it's an attention grabber and magnetic but the ural felt sluggish.
I own a ural... or own bike for sure I wouldn't do 1000+km.roadtrip on it
@@helgepedersen877 -- Did you go *through* the Darien Gap, or did you ship your bike around it?
@@Makermook I went through the Darien in 1988 with my BMW R80GS coming from Colombia going to Panama. It took 20 days, broke my hand and a couple of ribs in the process. Had a German backpackers help me. I write about this in my book "10 Years on 2 Wheels". I did it because I did not want to spend a lot of money on flying my bike or taking a expensive ferry around. Had no idea how difficult it would be.
Love this video! Thank you Helge for the very honest and specific content! I am intrigued!
You are welcome, I am having lots of fun with this sidecar stuff, very different from 2 wheels.
Veeeeery Charming episode. Thank you. Very entertaining and beautifully done. 💗
Really enjoyed that. An excellent review of sidecars from a very experienced rider.
Hey Bret, dang! You're doing some really great work. Keep it up!
In Philippines it is very famous side car we Filipinos uses sidecar for daily living. So many uses. Keep it u sir . Godbless!
What an interesting fellow, thanks for bringing him to us.
You're welcome, Pete!
hope you will share more of the 3 wheel adventures
Thank you for your wonderful video.
Good luck
That’s a really cool perspective on adventure riding
Very enjoyable video I would like to see how the camping was too.
Thank you Helge, I have been looking into sidecars. Very informative video.
Helge is the most badass biker ever. Love this guy. Anybody that doesn’t pay him full respect is a complete fool. This guy is the real McCoy love it. Thank You Helge! I wanna ride with you one day.
Really enjoied this video. Especially enjoied not having the music overwhelm the naration. Most videos with music are so irritating that I only watch a bit before clicking off. Traveling long distances on motorcycles is great adventure and I have done it a lot. Now at 85 (can not get a leg over my last bike, it is sitting in my bedroom) your vids are so wonderful and bring back many fond memories.
I love sidecars, I have one (CJ750). They are tricky to drive and I have seen a lot of folks topple over. They also are much wider and sometimes people forget that and the sidecar wheel goes off the road and they crash. With all that said, just have common sense and ride safely. Its great for taking your kid out camping and riding on weekends. They can relax and sleep in the sidecar and enjoy the view. Great fun!
Totally agree with that, lots of fun indeed.
Very well done!
Very Encouraging. Thank you and Good Luck.
I very much enjoyed that. Thank You Helge and Bret!
Helges blogs / pics together with his other friends who travels with him in the world , is a pleasure to read.
Glad you like it, it is fun to be at this end of it as well, how lucky I have been in life.
Helge Pedersen If you are coming ”home” to Scandinavia and doing a Globe Rider meeting , please let us know. It would be nice to meet you !
@@akepettersson4847 I am planing a GlobeRiders 20th Anniversary Ride in 2020 from Tokyo to Germany. After that ride I will continue north to visit family and friends in Norway. I plan to use this sidecar rig for that tour and perhaps we can arrange a get together somehow. I have to think about this, good idea so thank you.
Helge Pedersen What a fantastic Anniversary tour , you got me speechless there !!
Amazing... Keep it up... Love to hear your experience..
#adam adam Thanks for your feedback and it is an adventure that keeps evolving. perhaps one day we will be back with a update after a few years of learning and evolving.
So inspiring thanks Helge!
#NS Ramage You are welcome and that is what this video was all about, inspiring, all the best to you.
Great video thank you for making it got a lot of information
Loved the video. The chap is informed, experienced and promotes sidecar riding with intelligent passion. If he makes more videos, I would watch them. I recently purchased a 1955 BSA outfit with a honda CB750 engine, 1965 Watsonian Monza sidecar.
#Lancejones That sounds like a great project you have ventures in to Lance. Would love to see the rig when it is done. Yes, perhaps one day we will make more videos, glad you enjoyed.
Hi Helge, beautiful presentation, I had my first sidecar when I was 33 years young, to accommodate a growing family, and had never looked back.
Many different models and sizes had come and gone, most of them Australian made, but there was the odd German and Rusian made as well.
I ended up being the Sidecar’s club president in Australia for a few years, now I have give them a rest, but not entirely, there is an MZ sidecar hidden in the garage for “ one day” I know I’ll be using it.
The big question is in which bike???? Yes you know the answer, A BMW flat tween.
I know that there are more powerful bikes and cheaper ones too, but the feeling of that motor and the way it delivers the power and torque combinations is unique to them.
Thanks for putting this video/ presentation together, it’s a beautiful way to show people how good it can be, and most important no age limitations, road to difficult or too much snow on the ground, just go!!!!!
#batatarosinate Way to go, you sure have a lot of experience and soon the MZ sidecar will come out. Would love to see that MZ and hopefully one day we can meet and exchange stories , I could learn a lot from you.
That was really great. Thank you!
I was Googling sidecar for GSA and came across your wonderful video. Excellent job giving us a perspective of what it would be like to ride with sidecar. Thank you. Looking forward to your adventures with Big Red.
Thanks!
#voikam Happy that you enjoyed the video and hopefully one day we will make a followup story about sidecar riding, stay tuned.
Now that's made me want an one again, they are such fun.
Excellent stuff.
The three things I like about your videos:
1. Production value
2. Production value
3. Production value
Always interesting topics and useful information, but just so damned good to watch!!
Totally agree, Tim does a fine job shooting the video and putting it all together. People do not realize how much work that is behind such a story with countless hours editing and refining the end result.
Great production Brett and very interesting , Helge's a legend
Thanks, Adrian!
Great Job!
Wow! This is eye popping video production!
Tim Tyler, the man behind the production sure has a talent and hard working man he is.
Incredibly helpful. We just bought our first a Gl1200 with Champion Escort. Bought "Yellow book from DMC ( great service ) and my wife is starting a motorcycle safety course in Michigan. Can't wait to begin our adventure on 3 wheels. Thanks for your inspiration and enthusiasm.
#larrygreen Glad you enjoyed this and so happy for you and your wife starting out on this new adventure of sidecar riding. I am fairly new to the sport as well and so far I love every ride. Ride Far - Ride Safe!
I have a short inseam of 28inches, but I love ADV bikes and like to have room for contingencies. Riding a tall bike off road for me is very nerve wrecking though because tip toes are just not enough to hold up a loaded bike on uneven ground. I find this sidecar idea VERY intriguing!
Great video. I have been a sidecar enthusiast since I was a kid. I’m glad you made such a good, informative video.
#johnaddy Glad you like it and I hope to inspire many riders to give sidecar riding a try. Happy riding to you and perhaps one day we meet on the road.
Always enjoy a bit of diversity, keep it coming 👍🏻
Interesting point of view
Great Video... super quality in both quality and content... keep it going
Thanks!
Excellent video... And thank you for introducing me to such an interesting character. Checking out his book and site after this video.
Stay safe and have a wonderful 2019
Check out our archived journals with literally thousands of pictures and stories from our tours around the world, enjoy.
2nd........woooo whooooo That was very interesting Helge, thank you very much for your insight to 3 wheeling adventures.
You are welcome and remember I am just in the learning phase of this 3 wheel riding. Learning new stuff ever time I am out.
It would awesome if the side car wheel was a drive wheel as well. There was a old Harley endurance racer that built one and dominated. The motorcycle is at the “wheels through time” museum In Maggie Valley NC.
Great video!!!
I read your book back in 1999, Helge. Thank you!
#jasonr1150gs Happy to hear that you enjoyed the book, time to start another book now when I am about to retire.
I've always been intrigued and a little bit intimidated by side-car rigs. But, in the end, I think I'd really love the experience. Thanks Brett and Helge' for the first hand presentation.
-Also, nice to see the "bad guy" from "Sense 8" found honest work running a tour company, hahaha.
Thank you and I have to pas on most of the credits to Tim Tyler that does the filming and editing on the MotoTrek videos for this channel, great work Tim.
I’d love to do a ride with you, i am level Honda RSX 125cc but your BMX looks super amazing . Wonderful trips
What a great video I do enjoyed your videos but this one was just enjoyable. I live in the city of Chicago and I just love your art lessons on the art of riding a motorcycle in the wilderness and across country once again thank you for the good work you do
You're welcome, Lee!
Great looking rig, Helge!
Thanks, it is getting "gooder" every day.
Thanks Helge . Also your book is excellent.
Thanks you, glad you like the book. I am now working on another book.
Really an encouraging and enjoyable information my friend 👍👍👍.
umm, I don't think he is your friend tho
Thank you!!!!
Amazing histories !! Your pics at Patagonia are amazing! I was working as guide at Torres del Paine, and visited Cerro Torre , and let me tell you , you been blessed with that Clean views ! usually its not like that at all! I loved this video, now im going to see the Darien ones ( I live at Colombia now, and landscapes here for ride a bike are amazing ) have a great trips !!
Hello Helge, Nice to hear you speaking and I understand you are still from Kristiansand in Norway. " Å i sava!" Yngve, scouting for 52 years.
Cool side car, thanks for sharing!
Glad that you enjoyed it.
Great video, and great guest. Very personable
Thank you!
What a awesome video.Thank you very much.
Tim Tyler, videographer and editor extraordinary is the man behind the high production quality of the video(s).
That was really interesting to watch . Thank you
I am glad that you enjoyed this video and i hope that you get the chance to try a sidecar one day if you have not already.
Helge Pedersen thank you very much. I first heard about you a few years ago when I was riding in China with my friend Jeremy Guard. He said a lot of great things about and your organisation. I’ve been keen to know more about you so seeing you in this video was a lovely surprise.
I plan once I retire to go on an RTW with my wife solo so all these videos are very much informative and also inspirational. You have definitely had me thinking about this side car set up the last few days as currently I am on holiday riding around NZ on a GS1200 with my wife.
Thank you . I hope to see you again.
Regards
Never had a sidecar, but know that I want one! They just look so cool! Plus all that storage for trips.
#Tommytommy Yes, you can store more, but so does a camper car. My main incentive to get the sidecar was to have my lovely wife enjoy our rides from a place of enjoyment. Sitting behind me on our solo bike is not that cool, but having a seat for herself next to me with the best view and comfort means everything for us. When the princess is happy everyone are happy.
Excellent Video and introduction to motorcyclesidecar adventure !
#Nicolausuhlmann Thanks, and yes, that was the purpose of this video to encourage riders to try something new with an open mind.
Love the Red panniers 👍
Been looking for some thing like this for quite some time. Thanks will be following you to learn a thing or two ☺️
#KamranHaider Glad that you enjoyed the video, like you, this is a new adventure for me as well. I am learning new stuff every day and hope to share some of it some times in the future, stay tuned.
What a fascinating video. A great set-up.
Glad you liked it and Tim sure has a talent for making good videos.
Great video and a nice introduction to sidecars. I now have a Ural Patrol which replaced the BMW airhead sidecar rig. The BMW was much faster and probably a bit more reliable (especially at below 0°F) but the Ural is less effort and makes it up icy roads with ease. The BMW always needed speed to compensate for the lack of 2WD. DMC is a great shop as they helped me get my airhead rig on the road.
Thanks, Richard!
big red a cool bike am seeing a big come back in the u.s.a on sidecar bikes...great bike great stream
I thought about the Ural but ultimately went with a Triumph Scrambler XE 1200 and had a DMC sidecar installed. The total cost was about 2k more than a new Ural. I like the Ural's looks and like that it has a two wheel drive mode along with a reverse but ultimately decided against it due to the unreliability issues so many people experience.
I do a lot of back country riding on logging roads and such where I might not see another vehicle for hours or at all and usually have no cell phone service in a lot of areas I ride, so reliability was important to me. Also it is easier to get service, parts or find a repair shop for the Triumph than it is for the Ural. I have a ton more horsepower and torque than I would with the Ural which really helps on high elevation trails such as the Imogene pass between Telluride and Ouray Colorado.
I love this bike and your adventure, i'm from Vietnam and i also have an old Ural Sidecar
#Dammexetv That must be tough to ride a sidecar rig in Vietnam with all the traffic, but I am sure you are having lots of fun.
Thank you for sharing it so good
Glad that you enjoyed it, share it with your friends!
Extremely interesting and fine video ! Thanks !
You are most welcome, glad you enjoyed. share with your friends.
Thank you for sharing
#chaliedallimore You are welcome and happy riding to you.
I was just looking at Urals at my local BMW specialist shop. I love the idea of trying one especially with the third wheel being driven but I can't see wanting to have that much width ongoing. Great video just across the border from me in Washington State which is nice to see.
Thx for the feedback, Marc!
@@MOTOTREK I found you on Facebook and am looking forward to feeling inspired to do longer rides (and add something beyond my current MP3 500)
Very nice video coverage n presentation
#bibhudatta chand I am glad that you enjoyed the video.
Good honest review well done sir really enjoyed it.
Thanks so much, my pleasure.
Awesome. Attractive bike. I rode Ural a lot when I was very young, and I adore sidecars. Nothing problem with steering, just many hell fun
#2.0 Noname I am happy that you like the bike and yes, it is a lot of fun. I hope that you can get a sidecar once again so you can have more fun now that you are older.
I never saw overland like this before..
Awsome..!
Salute from Indonesia 🇮🇩👍👍
Glad you like it, Leonard!
Agree with your assessment on Ural, it with have been upto standard back in 1940’s but it’s so agricultural today
#geoffnepo I hear from my friends that the latest models of Ural are much better and I look forward to try one soon.
Very nice to have a new person's presentation!
#GiorKastri Happy you enjoyed and I hope to be back in the future when I have more to share with Mototrek.
Good vidéo!
Great video I love it! Your are the man🙏
Very interesting journey
Amazing, 'was just planning in these days to convert my vstrom into a sidecar, now I'm even more thrilled about the idea. Now I just have to find a good builder here in Europe :) . Thanks for the great content, as usual!
You are lucky, plenty of good sidecar builders in Europe. Good luck to you.
We do ship to Europe, we have an EU distributor and do make V strom sidecars however we do not have full certifications yet for all countries.
Jay G
DMC sidecars
www.dmcsidecars.com
866-638-1793
@@helgepedersen877 Unfrotunatly there are NO sidecar builders in Europe that do the Camber Control for the sidecar. Most of the USA builder do, DMC sidecars www.dmcsidecars.com/products/ perhaps being the leading one although Hannigan Sidcars also do nice job. www.hannigantrikes.com/product-type/classic-sidecars/
Dude. Think about it, for the price of Dacia you gonna ruin your bike with that sidecar. Cars and bikes have their pros and cons and sidecars have all cons of both of them and gives no pros in return. As a vstromer to vstromer telling you, don't ruin your bike
Very nice channel, new subscriber from Spain.
I know the Urals had their problems, but the four best things about the Ural set up is 1). having Brembo disc brakes to the three wheels 2). a reverse gear, a must on any outfit. 3). a handbrake on the sidecar, 4). and they handle beautifully.
#tomlitchen I just had a new sidecar build by Mobec in Germany and I decided to not get the reverse gear. I disagree with you that this is must have for any outfit. If you know that you do not have a reverse gear and make sure not to get in to situations where you can not get out of you will be good. I do have a winch on the rig to get me out of bad situations though. Regardless of your thoughts, the Ural is a great bike for some people and other people need another kind of sidecar rig. Find what works for you and enjoy.
Thank you for your video I very much enjoyed it good luck on your travels
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed the video.
Awesome guy.a true adventure seeker..i think im gonna put a sidecar on my versys 650 and do some off road..looks fun..what an inspiration man..
Thanks and have lots of fun.
Great video, thank you.
#Nordicoppozit Thank you and thanks to Tim for doing all the hard work filming and editing.
Very nice and interesting video. Completely different than the sidecare here in Thailand for which most people use a 125cc motorbike or with less power. The sidecar I have is not so much for passengers as for shopping. I transport items with it, that won't fit in our car. And it is fun driving with it.
#Sjaakschulteis Good to know that you are having such a fun time with your sidecar. People that has not tried to ride a sidecar do not know what they are missing.
I enjoyed your no nonsense and interesting video, thank you Helge. I have an Ural sidecar outfit and agree with you that the mechanical side of the Ural is a let down, (mine is a 2015 efi model) although the Urals leading front forks and disc brake on the side car are excellent, i had never ridden an outfit before purchasing the outfit, and have not had a problem with upper body issues or similar, which shows how well they are set up and handle, engine aside. I think your rig is perfect with the BMW and would like to do the same. Keep the videos on your outfit adventures coming.
Glad that you enjoyed the video and that you enjoy your own rig. Who cares what one ride as long as you are having a good time doing it. When I referent to being tiered with upper body work I thin regardless of what brand hack one were riding the curvy roads that we encountered in Colombia and beyond would take it out of most riders. there were literally hundreds of sharp hairpin curves going up and down the valleys. We did 8,000 miles from Colombia to Tierra del Fuego in just over two months, great journey. I have done this journey with solo bikes several times, doing it on 3 wheels was much more physical work and I loved it. Hopefully one day our paths will cross, until then, Ride Far - Ride Safe!
Thanks for the reply Helge, I must admit that there wouldn't be anywhere near the twisty roads that you have encountered, here where i live in Victoria, Australia,, when are you coming down under?
Really ural had a lot of problems? Can yoy tell me tyour experience please? I had the perception that ural were reliable machines
HI there, Urals are great fun and certainly attract a lot of attention. I have a 2015 efi model and although i haven't had any real problems with it so far (not a lot of k's on it either) my friends have had problems with theirs, ($$$), but they have done a lot more k's than i have and the outfits are slightly older models. I certainly wouldn't trust mine on an around Australia trip thats for sure. Transplanting a BMW engine into it would do the trick . My wife reminds me that i could have purchased a new Toyota Corolla for the same price, but thats not what i wanted. Might buy a Beemer. Thanks for the interest.
One can reduce the effort on steering a sidecar outfit by adjusting the trail on the front forks or changing it for a leading link set up. from www.waspmotorcycles.com/on%20the%20road.html.
Fabulous adventure and a great video! I drive Ural (s) so I exactly know what you meant about these bikes :-). Greetings from Poland.
@Tomasz Pawlik Glad that you like this video especially since you enjoy riding your own sidecar, they sure are fun.
What an adventure bro 👍
Well made video. I rode with you at Squaw Valley many years ago...
Glad you liked the video and let's go for another ride one day.
Great insight!
Glad you liked it.
I loved my sidecar , it offered riding stability . It was a large sidecar seating two small people side by side . Thus it was heavy & the first time in fast Fwy traffic I had to brake hard the weight of the unbraked sidecar shifted me across one lane (scary) but from there on my main brake became the rear with the front to a lesser degree .I did get used to it pretty quick .
#trevorzzealley that is a scary story, glad it ended good. What about getting brakes on your sidecar wheel as well?
Ural or Dnepr weels are specialy for sidecars,interchangeable,reserve weel on trunk, designed by Germans from BMW in '40 if not earlier before WW2.