What Does 'Cisgender' Mean? | Out Loud with Claudia Jordan
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- A panel of Black Trans Women explain what 'cisgender' means and talk about how the patriarchy defines womanhood.
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I dont like to called cisgendered.. call me woman, lady, or female.
You better say it
mo brown as is your right . See we all get to identify ourselves as we see fit. I am a married woman with a son. But I don’t need to have any prejudice against any other woman because I am confident in that knowledge. Also these are all Black woman we need not find more division we need to stick together.
You have that right just like trans people have the right to identify how they want.
It's just a scientific term it's not that deep.
@@Leo-ch2qy it becomes deep sadly, when folks want 2 argue about the way you are & how you live your life. Told you must do and be xyz or it's wrong.
As an adult I'm not accepting insolence from family, friends nor strangers. ✌
I don’t give a damn, I am a woman not Cis whatever they want to call it 🙄.
Call me cis/sis and i wanna fight lol
Exactly
Real talk!
THANK YOUUU!!! POINT BLANK PERIOD
Peridott
I'm not "cisgendered" I'm a woman, a biological woman, an adult human female.
That's right Tina, all day every day, dammit.
Exactly they are making this problem about how the lgbt don’t feel included. I feel offended. We are not ignorant for not wanting to use cisgender. We can separate ourselves because hello that’s we are. I’m tired of this shit
Exactly if your a trans women fine ...why do I have to now be a cis women because your offended. Women are different because of chromosomes, organs, organ placement, bone structure, hormones... we are different than "transwomen" right down to our molecular structure so how 🤔 could you be possible insulted that your not deemed the same as a type of person who is literally the scientific opposite of you down to the molecular structure...what sense does that make. Also how can you claim to say that you feel like your something that you've never been and have no reference point in being? Please explain? I usually hear trans say I like dolls or I like pink or some form of stereotypes associated with women 🤔 yet that's just that a stereotype women come in all personalities but women have the same chromosomes, and molecular structure and hormones and natural vj's that's what makes a women
Which is literally what cisgender means.
@@noelita182 You totally missed the point of what they said just to be defensive. No one is saying you aren't a woman, its a scientific term, the same way everything else has a scientific term. CIS is used to distinguish in regards to trans discussion. Its the same when you say I'm a "real" woman...you are still a woman but you are identifying yourself in a specific way, just one that comes off insensitive or rude.
All these silly words. Its Either you're a WOMAN or NOT. #Facts
Great! So that means trans shouldn’t be a prefix, they should just be called men and women as they identify
@Princess Serenity Trans Woman = Woman
@@asiam9457 The fact that they used to be men makes them feel the need to control women ....my issue with trans women is this bullying aspect that is very present in them ...you say your real women but when a natural born women tells you what a real women is you tell them no your wrong because that's not me..is it it really your place to say what a real women is or isn't wouldn't a women who has always been a women have more right to constitute what a women is...Society would be offended if white people tried to tell a black person what it is to really be black what is the difference here.. ..if we tell you what it is to be us we are transphobic.?..we are not afraid of you so how can we be transphobic...transwomen will never answer these logical questions because the only answer could be you can't be a women. I looked at the bottom trans women flip her hair and make all these exaggerated "feminine" motions as if she was being the ideal woman ...but tossing your hair and moving unnatural for no assumed reason and acting like a bad actress pretending to be a women does not make you a women. To define women as a characcature of what a MAN believes a women to be is what I perceive as trans....its always this over the top lump of stereotypes of exactly what a man would perceive as a woman to be and it shows.. and instead of listening to women tell you what it is to be a woman in a man like fashion you say no your wrong I'm right I'm better at being you than you are
@@asiam9457 the physical is what makes the mind perceive itself as itself , it because of hormones public perception, physical abilities and inabilities. That's what makes up a perception of one's gender one can't exist without the other . Anything else is based in stereotypes or a man's perception of what they think a women is ..woman act similar because of the similarities in physical makeup, hormones , lives experiences based on their physical makeup ...a trans person physical makeup is literally opposite of a women... so how could they have tge same mind when the mind and or perceptions is only because of the physical body..make it make sense ..I rather you just say I want to be a women than say you are one that would be more truthful.
@@thatgirl798 It doesn't have to make sense to you and that's why there's so much controversy between us and non-trans people. I live my life as a woman so therefore I am one, no I was not born biologically female. But I live my life as if I were so that's what it is, whether people respect it or not.
I’m so tired of these men in dresses and makeup. Say what they want to say chromosomes don’t lie. I will never be tricked into accepting these labels. Sick of all of them.
your discrimination is so disgusting, they are WOMEN get it right , god bless you
They want to be women, big difference
They are MEN! What the hell is wrong with people.
@@TheTracystewart The fact that they used to be men makes them feel the need to control women ....my issue with trans women is this bullying aspect that is very present in them ...you say your real women but when a natural born women tells you what a real women is you tell them no your wrong because that's not me..is it it really your place to say what a real women is or isn't wouldn't a women who has always been a women have more right to constitute what a women is...Society would be offended if white people tried to tell a black person what it is to really be black what is the difference here.. ..if we tell you what it is to be us we are transphobic.?..we are not afraid of you so how can we be transphobic...transwomen will never answer these logical questions because the only answer could be you can't be a women. I looked at the bottom trans women flip her hair and make all these exaggerated "feminine" motions as if she was being the ideal woman ...but tossing your hair and moving unnatural for no assumed reason and acting like a bad actress pretending to be a women does not make you a women. To define women as a characcature of what a MAN believes a women to be is what I perceive as trans....its always this over the top lump of stereotypes of exactly what a man would perceive as a woman to be and it shows.. and instead of listening to women tell you what it is to be a woman in a man like fashion you say no your wrong I'm right I'm better at being you than you are the physical is what makes the mind perceive itself as itself , it because of hormones public perception, physical abilities and inabilities. That's what makes up a perception of one's gender one can't exist without the other . Anything else is based in stereotypes or a man's perception of what they think a women is ..woman act similar because of the similarities in physical makeup, hormones , lives experiences based on their physical makeup ...a trans person physical makeup is literally opposite of a women... so how could they have tge same mind when the mind and or perceptions is only because of the physical body..make it make sense ..I rather you just say I want to be a women than say you are one that would be more truthful.
@@TheTracystewart Exactly if your a trans women fine ...why do I have to now be a cis women because your offended. Women are different because of chromosomes, organs, organ placement, bone structure, hormones... we are different than "transwomen" right down to our molecular structure so how 🤔 could you be possible insulted that your not deemed the same as a type of person who is literally the scientific opposite of you down to the molecular structure...what sense does that make. Also how can you claim to say that you feel like your something that you've never been and have no reference point in being? Please explain? I usually hear trans say I like dolls or I like pink or some form of stereotypes associated with women 🤔 yet that's just that a stereotype women come in all personalities but women have the same chromosomes, and molecular structure and hormones and natural vj's that's what makes a women
Do you bleed every month?? Are you menopausal?? Have you ever been pregnant or given birth to a baby???.. a women may have had her breast removed, have a hysterectomy or may not had ever given birth. Hormones make the difference between male and female. Hormones not body parts make a real woman.... Y’all have to get injections for female hormones (synthetic). As a real woman grows older her body loses estrogen which makes her more susceptible to osteoporosis and heart diseases. Hormones are our make up not the kind you put on your face.
How are all those things threatened by transwomen tho???
@@ww8407 Your question has nothing to do with the comment. This is just another attempt at black gays trying to TRANSFORM something else. Stick to the topic.
@@JayPharmD it's all because they want d the same way women get it so they want people to call them women instead of transwomen thinking it will increase their access ...to straight men...but still ain't no straight men claiming them. 💯
@@thatgirl798 you are so threatened by these beautiful women lol I understand.
@@8thWonderr1 what women, men in drag ain't women.
I am not cisgender i am a woman
Wow I’m so confused at the logic of these arguments, for one Humans have a brain 🧠, masculine and feminine is a mind sight or mentally, the private area your born with is a physical part of your biological DNA, it’s the most sure thing about your existence because it’s attached to you and you can’t deny that. I’m so confused as to how y’all think being a man or woman is about feelings and not the actuality that males are born with a penis and females are born with vaginas. That’s a fact that can’t be argued. You can’t argue with the truth.
Laneisha Francis , facts.
Exactly!! Hey when you went through puberty, you were feeling all kinds of ways.That didn't change your sexuality.Or your race.You can manipulate feelings.We know plenty of people who are black and come across as White.So their not Blk? The community might talk trash, but that Blk person that comes as white, when they fill out a census and they ask for their race.How they feel or act means nothing.LGBT is going on their feelings, and their kidding themselves.
When she said trans women “can be” infertile I stopped listening.
Coury Landers I felt like a billionaire when I woke up this morning, now I’m woke woke. I’m just saying if we can be who we feel we are I sure as hell want to reap those benefits.
Ana York my mouth completely dropped open and I couldn’t stop laughing 😆.
Biological women have fought long and hard for equal rights and we still cannot get the same pay and promotions like our male counterparts. Now, here comes a group of men who choose to identify as women that are driving legislation to replace biological women in jobs, sports, etc. It would appear that the patriarchal system is determined to force biological women back into the kitchen and birthing children. Anyone who is supporting blurring the lines between women and transgender people, need to think about this and the impact it will have on women's liberation and the Black struggle.
Additionally, it is scientifically proven that only the female gender can have a menstruation, conceive a child and give birth to it. For argument's sake, even if a body is surgically altered, these biological facts remain. The elephant in the room is heterosexual individuals have a right to know a person's biological gender before they embark upon an encounter/relationship. This is no different than a right to know a person's marital and HIV status. It's about being accountable for your actions and the decisions you make. When you can accept who you are and the choices that you've made, you do not need to convince people otherwise. This is the heart of accountability.
Yes......amen to this comment....it was your choices not mine that you want to identify being something your not ...so accept and deal with that after math of your choice and stop forcing us who know our true being to accept false information as truth.....i accept a transexual person that still knows that they are born of whatever sex they was born as and not trying to force me to call them what they are not.....thats like me saying i feel like identifying being and Asian person for the rest of my life ....but i was born fully black.......but now that i decided i want to be asian ....you better accept me being asian and if you dont consider me as equal then its you that has and issue not me and now i have to make up an scientific reasoning for my identity crisis to make sense and show that we are equal so that you cant call me what i really am and if you do your bashing me and have some homophobic ways........if they make a new term for something else my head is going to pop
Sharri YES to ALL ☝☝☝ that. 👏👏👏
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
That's exactly what it is. There is a war on biological women. Everyone is determined to push us to the back of the line again. No more!
Well said 👏👏👏
We don't need them to come up with a name for us when they are changing and/or adding on to their's every 6 months. It's offensive. We are good. Stop trying to bully people and force things on them. Name yourselves not us.
Comments like this are EXACTLY why they sat and explained it clear as day. "They" are not the ones coming up with these names, it's simple science. They aren't separating themselves from anyone at all either. it's just a simple definition. I'm pretty sure they all spoke English in this clip but some of you ignorant people in the comments are blinded by hate and won't even listen.
@@Optimism211
Brothers and sisters don't be fooled by these black face white supremacist.
#stay woke black family
Rocka7 They don’t want to understand on purpose.
@@Optimism211 I'm the mother of an adult son. Had no hand in forming him in my womb nor any White supremacy. And that's for every mother that's carried a child. And I'm extremely offended by that untrue narrative.
For me and my house we will serve the Lord!
I support trans women however, I do not identify as being a cisgender woman. I was not assigned a womb. I was born with a womb. I identify as a wombed woman. Much respect to trans women but no one gets to assign me my identity, just the same as I don’t get to assign them there’s.
Shanti Om woman is wombman
Exactly
Shanti I'm in TOTAL agreement with this. 👏👏👏
Absolutely, I can support you and love you, but just as you dont want to be labeled don't label me.
The word woman did not come from womb completely false
They just making it up as they go along it's whatever they wanted to mean seen that same confusion on The Breakfast Club.
Brothers and sisters don't be fooled by these black face white supremacist.
#stay woke black family
Exactly
I thought that was Joseline Hernadez top left!! I'm so out of touch.
Lmaooooo me tooooo 😭💀🥴
Me too
I thought so too
Me too 😭
I searched for this comment before commented it myself. Thank you
I’m a woman. Don’t tell me what to call myself.
Exactly I agree!!!
You are a cisgendered individual. It’s not that hard to comprehend… no one is calling you anything different than a woman, it is just a specification of such. 🤷🏾♂️
@@kriskanei7369 I am a woman specification: an adult female human being. What I want do be called as a heterosexual woman doesn’t matter. It only matters when it’s someone in the lgbt community
There trying to replace the women i love. "Real women" it's sickening
@@kriskanei7369👈🤡😂
People can name themselves whatever they want. You don’t have the right to name someone else. You don’t get to name a group that you are not apart of. Respect goes both ways. I was a girl, I am now a woman.
You are still not a woman
No, transgender, gay people have been labeled for centuries, therefore cis and heterosexual people can be labeled.
@@halifaxx55 you all have been labeled because your not normal 😂 Sorry/not sorry
Everyone in existence was put categorized as male or female at birth. There has never been a doctor who said "Congradulations it's a trans" to a "birthing person" This ultra word culture is confusing, distracting and causing tension between people.
embrace your cisness, sista 😉
Propaganda..
Why would you call a person ignorant if you are being identified as what you were born AS!...bc at the end of the day when you stand b4 God you will stand as the person he created you to BE!! And just know God makes no mistakes!!
Alice Hayden The LGBTQ can't tolerate Bible. You're hitting them w/ the too much truth. Your going to be labeled some type of bigot,even though you are telling like it is.Just giving you a heads-up.
It’s all witchcraft, only the righteous know this..
@@meritorioustechnate9455 yes so much evil and demonic spirits have people confused it's rampant everywhere.
@uknow who
They said the same thing about Yeshua
John 10:33
Scripture speaks for G*d
2 Timothy 3:16
They just didn't give you the verse,here it is...
Roman's 14:12
And if you are wondering what Yeshua said about how many sexes there are here it is...
Mark 10:6
Any other questions,please refer to scripture. Thank you!
It's a prefix?🤔😠 NO IT'S OFFENSIVE THAT YOU WOULD EVEN THINK THAT WE ARE THE SAME🤨
@dave young indeed produce babies, monthly mother nature and everything else we women go through biologically physically and emotionally every single day since birth. How can they compare themselves to that😤 No disrespect to Americans or the nation, but shouldn't they be focusing on bigger problems? Like their legal system, government corruption, police brutality, social injustice, poverty, free health/education, social equality etc. They should be looking into finding solutions to these issues instead.
dave young Haven’t you ever heard of BUTT babies.?
@dave young Not only that they need their prostate checked take estrogen which women naturally produce
@@hurricanewave212 no, and neither have you.
We are definitely not the same🤦♀️
..so you create an identity for People who ARE women/men and never questioned their gender, in order to validate YOUR choice? 🤔🤨 I’m a man... don’t need any other gender label. Do what thou wilt(😒), but don’t bring that ish over here. ✌🏽
Speak on it!
Oh these transgay folks can kiss my ass; I will never use the word cis to define me..
1000% disagree with the idea that both trans and cis women can equally understand infertility. There is a huge difference between a defect and something that can never happen. The thing is, even a cis woman with fertility issues has a chance at becoming pregnant. A trans woman could never be pregnant. The experience is completely different. Trans women are grappling with the fact that they know conceiving a child in their body is impossible. Cis women are grappling with the fact that something in them that is supposed to work, doesn’t. Completely different experiences, completely and I’m kinda annoyed she said that.
THANK YOU!!! Transwomen also known from the beginning, they will NEVER become pregnant. So many real women never know they're infertile until they start trying to become pregnant, and that can be decades down the line. The appropriation of infertility from them is another thing I find about their rhetoric that is very disrespectful.
@@Browngerl" Real" women just say your transppbic
Exactly. Women who can't give birth are dealing with infertility issues or they've had a hysterectomy or they're experiencing menopause but they're still women whether they can give birth or not because they biologically female and were SUPPOSED to.
The reason why a mtf transgender/transsexual can not give birth isn't because of infertility issues, it's bc they're biological males, they're NOT supposed to give birth.
Males have penises and scrotums/balls, they produce sperm that penetrate a Woman's egg.
So mtf transgenders can have have babies! They can impregnate and ejaculate inside of 9 women and have 9 babies in 9 months. Whereas the woman with infertility issues is having difficulty having 1 baby so it's insulting when they try to compare women who can't give birth to mtf transgenders who can not give birth to somehow try to make the bogus claim that we are both the same when we are NOT.
As women of biological experience, we are extremely different from Mtf transgenders and our womanhood experience & struggle is absolutely nothing like the Transgenderhood experience that they go through!!!
@beautyisHer
We're not Cis-Women, we're just WOMEN.
It’s biologically impossible, a few top science professors in the world say that so it baffles me why the lgbtq+ community are pushing something that never existed and will never happen. scientist are not going to waste time on labs to help trans people conceive when there real women like me they have bigger agendas as bad as it sounds it’s the truth 🤷🏽♀️ very offending they really trying to erase women existence it’s actually scary 😭
I wish I could call myself a fly and be in the doctor office on the wall to listen to the conversation when these “women” have to go in and lift up the dress explaining that they’re there for their prostate examination lol
A Newk comment of the year!
Right!!
Estrogen counteracts prostate cancer lol
@@transgoddess31 Sure does! 😉
Gender is assigned long before birth 🙄
Hey Mama Green!
I agree
You are confusing sex with gender. Those are two different things. Sex is determined before birth but not gender. Sex is biological. Gender is cultural. It's confusing to people because the two terms have been unfortunately used interchangeably for years. When you give birth to a baby...the doctor doesn't say "this is the gender of your child". They say "the sex of the child is male...or female". Technically instead of "gender reveal parties" it should be "sex reveal parties" because that's actually scientifically more accurate. I think the problem started when people only associated the word sex with sexual intercourse. Well, it's not true...your sex is based on your body parts...it determines whether you are male or female for biological purposes.
@@lisacox3750 actual no the doctors say. "The gender of your baby is..." and two i don't understand how it was unfortunate for the words to be used in interchangeably. Please explain more on how gender is "cultural". The new definition of gender was altered not a while ago therefore it was developed as time grew and opinions change and generations past. Does not take away from the original meaning of the word. For instance the term "Daddy." Many people use it as a sexual term and it is now fetishized however that does not mean that the "father" definition of the word no longer occurs. It just means that people try not to use it for the new definition that was added onto it but before it still holds it's original meaning whether people interpret it differently or not.
Actually no. That’s why you need to do research before you start saying stupid shit.
What does gender have to do with white supremacy 😂🤣🤣🤣 lol. I am not cis woman, I am a woman period
They had to put the white supremacy thing in there. When there’s nothing else to blame for their ignorance then it has to be white supremacy.
They never explain how it is white supremacist.
Keep your cis. Your not my sis dude.
FINALLY an explanation....also as a black man, I totally reject the term because it is a term invented by trans community , in order to define themselves EVEN THOUGH they say they are against society defining themselves...the irony
Brothers and sisters don't be fooled by these black face white supremacist.
#stay woke black family
yep, bones and anatomy don't lie but Hollywood and the tel lie vision does!
Exactly!!!!
It’s not invented by the trans community. It’s actually a scientific term that’s been around. Just because you’re just now learning about it doesn’t make it new. Language changes with the times and exists solely to explain and categorize things. It’s simply a descriptor word. The real issue here is cis people wanting to be the default, ignoring all the beautiful various types of genders, and unlearning the white washed dated notions around gender and sex that all of us were taught just accept without interrogation or critical thinking
@@ferre77 1) Has the term been around over 6000 years of humanity? NO!!! Has it been around since the turn of this century? YES!!! You get my point.
2) As a so called Cis male, I do not care to be a default or otherwise. I was happy being a straight male. The issue is that Trans now want to be recognised by their view of what gendar is and what others should be. Why not just be happy with the term Trans?
3) The issue also is that Trans people are not generally happy with being trans and so want to reconstruct gendar lines, so they can feel happier about what they have APPARENTLY choosen for themselves. If you actually believe there are numerous variations, that is your pergorative…but I as a cis male do not have to accept it if I don’t want to...Do you not agree?
4) As for the science… because of that science we now have trans former men competing with biological women in sports? Caitlyn Jenner won ‘woman of the year’ while refusing to cut off her genitals. Politicians actually saying that having a clitoris is not a deal breaker of what a woman is. So be careful if you let science be the final word in anything.
To each it's own. I always thought a woman has a cycle?! I could be wrong. Why want to go against how GOD created you? I'll never understand their way of thinking...
Not all women have a cycle,or can have children.But these women have or had a penis.So to me, that makes them men.Their making all these arguments.Its not white supremacy, their making excuses for their behavior.
Brothers and sisters don't be fooled by these black face white supremacist.
#stay woke black family
They don't love God somehow they want to be God
@@PH-lr2mp yep, bones and anatomy don't lie but Hollywood and the tel lie vision does!
You don’t have to understand nothing sweety. Don’t come if ain’t ready for a ARGUMENT. I’m well educated boo
IF YOU WERE BORN A GIRL YOU ARE A GIRL, LADY, THEN WOMAN! SO SICK OF SOMEBODY TELLING ME WHAT TO IDENTIFY AS! ENOUGH!
I just see it as black women being erased by men who are experiencing a tragic hormone imbalance
The fact that they used to be men makes them feel the need to control women ....my issue with trans women is this bullying aspect that is very present in them ...you say your real women but when a natural born women tells you what a real women is you tell them no your wrong because that's not me..is it it really your place to say what a real women is or isn't wouldn't a women who has always been a women have more right to constitute what a women is...Society would be offended if white people tried to tell a black person what it is to really be black what is the difference here.. ..if we tell you what it is to be us we are transphobic.?..we are not afraid of you so how can we be transphobic...transwomen will never answer these logical questions because the only answer could be you can't be a women. I looked at the bottom trans women flip her hair and make all these exaggerated "feminine" motions as if she was being the ideal woman ...but tossing your hair and moving unnatural for no assumed reason and acting like a bad actress pretending to be a women does not make you a women. To define women as a characcature of what a MAN believes a women to be is what I perceive as trans....its always this over the top lump of stereotypes of exactly what a man would perceive as a woman to be and it shows.. and instead of listening to women tell you what it is to be a woman in a man like fashion you say no your wrong I'm right I'm better at being you than you are
Every time someone respectably disagrees with an lgbt person they whine and cry that it’s hate and homophobia. Just stop it. Get over yourselves. Just like Flame Monroe said on the Breakfast Club, Why are you forcing stuff on people?
My womanhood is defined by nature's path from puberty through menopause...not by a doctor's syringe and scalpel.
The fact that they used to be men makes them feel the need to control women ....my issue with trans women is this bullying aspect that is very present in them ...you say your real women but when a natural born women tells you what a real women is you tell them no your wrong because that's not me..is it it really your place to say what a real women is or isn't wouldn't a women who has always been a women have more right to constitute what a women is...Society would be offended if white people tried to tell a black person what it is to really be black what is the difference here.. ..if we tell you what it is to be us we are transphobic.?..we are not afraid of you so how can we be transphobic...transwomen will never answer these logical questions because the only answer could be you can't be a women. I looked at the bottom trans women flip her hair and make all these exaggerated "feminine" motions as if she was being the ideal woman ...but tossing your hair and moving unnatural for no assumed reason and acting like a bad actress pretending to be a women does not make you a women. To define women as a characcature of what a MAN believes a women to be is what I perceive as trans....its always this over the top lump of stereotypes of exactly what a man would perceive as a woman to be and it shows.. and instead of listening to women tell you what it is to be a woman in a man like fashion you say no your wrong I'm right I'm better at being you than you are
Tell that to the millions of "naturally born" women who are born without a uterus
@@xander5426 don't exaggerate....their are not millions. ...what do uteruses have to do with a female woman's journey from puberty to womanhood? Not having a uterus is an anomaly not the norm... See, if you're not a female woman, you wouldn't even begin to know how that would feel...that is the difference. In Transwomen, it is the norm to be without a uterus, there have never been any anomalies.
But before you believe that i'm exaggerating please tell me do you think women who have these conditions speak about it often. That even some people who you talk to every day would tell you if they had this condition. There is so much stigma around infertility of women because society tries to define being a WOMAN by fertility, childhood, and motherhood. Thats why you hear so many sad stories of women going into depression when they find out they are infertile and that's why no one talks about their conditions if it's something like an absent uterus. Don't you think there is something wrong in spreading the message that a woman is defined by the experiences related to periods and childbirth when u see interviews of "naturally born" women talking about how being infertile makes them feel like less of a woman.
@@nowayjose23 also with those statistics of 1/1000 people being trans women and 1/5000 women being born without a uterus. For every 5 trans women there is one without a uterus. Are we really that rare. And remember that's not including the conditions where a uterus is present but still no fertility and problems with puberty.
You real women should not be cool with this, im a man but i know real women go through alot just being a woman. You women go through menopause, child bearing, menstrual cycles and all types of hormone changes. No man can ever know what all that is like idc how bad he feels he is a woman. Women makes this life continue, to be a woman is an honor that should not be taken lightly. So dont let these people get the title of being a woman when they have done nothing to earn it. To me its no different than people lying saying they served in the military but didn't.
Nature does not get your sex wrong, your emotions are wrong so work on that, that’s the truth whether you like it or not. Love yall, Also gender is not a social construct it’s a Biological construct clearly.
Sex and Gender are two different things. Sex is biological. Gender is not biological. Gender is basically saying..."you are a girl" so you should like pink. Obviously, we know all girls don't like pink nor do all boys like blue. But anyway...I just wanted to clarify that. It still doesn't mean that I agree with transgender people.
@@lisacox3750 you can't have gender without sex. Gender is the behavioral manifestation of sex. Why do you think transgenders have sex operations.
Someone’s feelings on gender identity are not wrong. They are only different from what they are born as…
Gender refers to the social construction of the differences between men and women. A good example of the social construction of gender is the belief that all men are brave and strong, while all women are coward and weak. Sex is described as the biological differences between men and women. Which also include intersex as well, as there are individuals born with both genitalia.
@@lisacox3750😂😂🎉🎉😢😢No! You're incorrect!
Gender and Sex are NOT different.
Gender (women/Men) and biological s.ex (Male/Female) are the same, they're BOTH biological!
What you're describing is NOT gender, you're describing are gender ROLES and gender roles are socially constructed but being a Woman (or Man) is NOT a social construct, it's biological!
So with that said, A man trying to emulated a woman is the REAL social construct.
Many of Y'all are trying to turn *0pposite S.ex Expression* into a Gender affirming term so that Biological males/men who live as Trans can claim feel included as Women too and try to claim women's identity which makes no sense because again, gender is biological.
Trying to self identify as something else is not biological, that's cosplay!
A Gender role is a social construct but our actual gender is not socially constructed, its Biological
Gender Expression/Identity is basically impersonation & cosplay for the most part which is ok but that's NOT the same thing as our Biological Gender & our Biological s.ex!
So once again,
You're wrong! Gender and Sex are NOT different! They're the same depending on how you use them and which context.
So a female is a woman...and a Male is a Man! And for the anti-woman bullies out there, me saying that is not h.ate or transph0bia, that's a Fact
@@kriskanei7369
Just like I said to @lisacox3 I'll say the same to you No! You're incorrect!
Gender and Sex are NOT different.
Gender (women/Men) and biological s.ex (Male/Female) are the same, they're BOTH biological!
What you're describing is NOT gender, you're describing are gender ROLES and gender roles are socially constructed but being a Woman (or Man) is NOT a social construct, it's biological!
So with that said, A man trying to emulated a woman is the REAL social construct.
Many of Y'all are trying to turn *0pposite S.ex Expression* into a Gender affirming term so that Biological males/men who live as Trans can claim feel included as Women too and try to claim women's identity which makes no sense because again, gender is biological.
Trying to self identify as something else is not biological, that's cosplay!
A Gender role is a social construct but our actual gender is not socially constructed, its Biological
Gender Expression/Identity is basically impersonation & cosplay for the most part which is ok but that's NOT the same thing as our Biological Gender & our Biological s.ex!
So once again,
You're wrong! Gender and Sex are NOT different! They're the same depending on how you use them and which context.
So a female is a woman...and a Male is a Man! And for the anti-woman bullies out there, me saying that is not h.ate or transph0bia, that's a Fact
I respectfully disagree with Angela Ross when she says that trans women and cis women “have way more in common than we have different.” If you grow up as a child not identifying with your natural gender that is an experience that cis gender woman cannot relate to. In the same token, trans women don’t share the experiences of what it’s like to grow from a girl to a woman. It’s OK to accept those differences instead of trying to make trans women, and biological women into one entity.
Exactly...and I also don't like how Angelica tried to throw out that infertile card because women being infertile and a male individual who can not fertilize an egg are 2 completely different things.
Women being infertile is due to an unfortunate infertility female issue but the reasons why Trans are infertile is self inflicted because they take drugs that effects their ability to create sperm, or they've had their male genitals cut off. That's why.
it's not because they're infertile like women, it's because they're biological men and to say we experience being infertile (both cis & trans) was insulting bc we're not Cis and because we're biological women.
Our experiences, pain, plight and struggles should not be compared with biological males who present as Transgender.
Very nice nasty , condescending, contradicting, and disrespectful Ladies. To say the least. You all did make some good points but kept going off the tracks and didn't challenge some of the disturbing statements made during this conversation. It absolutely is the time to separate the weeds from the wheat. This is just a suggestion don't degrade the women when that's your transition don't try to elevate yourself by doing so. It's counterproductive to your cause Ms Ross and the other trans woman at the bottom with her. Let who you are be your strength and not your tool to cause further division. Yes I am not only a biological woman but not more or less smh...
A lot of double talk in this interview.
Are you expecting rational, straightforward talk from men that are claiming to be women?? Come, come now.
CLAUDIA, YOU'RE THE ONLY WOMAN I'M LOOKING AT! STOP IT!
you would be surprised at what you're really lookin at on the tel lie vision!
I'm a woman and I will not change my language to include men in dresses.
😂😂😂😂😂
It’s all fine and Dandy when your a logical thinking adult that can make solid decisions, but when it comes to children and this information I draw the line for me personally, I just want my son to believe being a man is still a biological thing, a choice made for him aside from any doing of his own, is that a crime?
I agree black sister
No it's not 2 me.
Nor should you allow others 2 alter your thinking, as you respectfully stated yours.
@SisG so making them unable to reproduce
As someone whos gay... the lgbtq 🏳️🌈 community is out of line... and i know where some are coming from... but god dont make no mistakes periodt🤷🏽♂️
He made a mistake when he made u
It’s always that one gay man that has to talk down on trans people to get heterosexual approval. 🙄🙄 they don’t like you either…
That’s what you wanted?😂 these straight people don’t care for you too. FEELT LOVED YET not from the straight folks😂
Shar lost me at saying if we (real women) identify womanhood as having a vagina, giving birth, etc. Thats a form of patriarchy. Like I love those things about me and that's I feel makes me a woman. These conversations sometimes makes me feel like transwomen are trying to say that even with all those things it's insufficient and not enough to be a woman. Yet at the same time them themselves try to TELL me what they think a woman is. Is that not a form of patriarchy?
Yeah, what Shar tried to do was to try to shame Women away from discussing our womanhood experiences and saying that we are REDUCING ourselves down to what makes us Women to define our womanhood And "Aren't u more than that" was policing language and a shaming tactic.
shaming tactics is what many Trans use to try to silent us bc when we (real women ) discuss the girlhood and womanhood experiences that shapes us as women, the transgenders feel insecure excluded and invalidated bc they can't relate to our journey, joy, plight and struggles so they throw out shaming language and silencing tactics to shut us up bc our womanhood experiences makes them feel inadequate.
This is the real reason why they want to force us to call ourselves Cisgender Women/Ciswomen instead of just WOMEN. It ain't got nothing to do with science!
The real truth is that they just don't want us to call ourselves WOMEN. That's the real reason.
when we say "DONT CALL ME CIS. .I'M A WOMAN...I'M A REAL WOMAN "..it triggers mtf transgenders to their core bc us acknowledging our existences as Women is a reminder to them that they are still males, or men in some people's eyes.
Lol top comment u hit the nail on the head, feminism has tried to invalidate womanhood for a long time with their ideology(claiming there is no differences between men and women, and how "oppressed" women were), now the transgender movement is now invalidating women.
Lol u can't make this stuff, remember womxn,womyn, wamin or whatever word radical feminist want to call themselves now feminist are owning their biological reality caus of this new "Threat".
The Irony is killing me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Where is Candice Owens when we need her?
I’m not cisgender I am woman I’m proud
Bio Woman not a Cis, I'm definitely going to advocate against this term, Cis
I personally don’t like the term “cis”. In 30 plus years of my life I never referred to myself this way. I’ll be damned I let the trans community tell me what I should call myself, but we can not define them. I’ll respectfully acknowledge your transness great, but you will not define me.
“Stop it, get some help” (Michael Jordan voice)
Always attacking biological woman who want to maintain knowing their are female. They have the nerve to take WOMAN from us. You are not changing a name that you feel fit. You trans woman go ahead and call us what you want in your communities but for us we will always be WOMAN in my world. We have plenty names for you all trust that, but we ain’t forcing ya”ll to accept those names . Leaves us WOMEN alone and you all live your life. ☹️😡
I AM WOMAN ALWAYS HAVE BEEN ALWAYS WILL BE.
I am a liberal, supporter and ally of all ism groups yet the ultra progressive have to be checked just like the ultra conservative. While I disagree with the tran hatred, the forcing of the pronouns toward others especially toward women are concerning. I am a woman, not a birthing person, a person who menustrate, and definitely will not accept being called a cis-female. This is not a trend to have all these new labels w the younger kids. If we want the conservative to check and balance ultra conservative going rogue, than as a mirror that we have to check the ultra progressive utilizing cancel culture inaccurately, the forcing of pronouns and etc. This is the only way the moderates and harmony will be restored.
These conversations need to also be handled with heterosexual, cisgender men. Seriously, don’t just put it on women.
Keep that shit over there lol.
I personally could careless what someone chooses to do with their body, I just want my son to grow up believing his penis is a scientific limb of his body that was placed there with purpose.
I can't.
Where the rest of these interviews?
I’m so tired of these different labels to those of the community who want to be labeled fine but as far as for me and my house I’m a women a whole woman just a woman a woman Who was born a woman. That’s it!!! Can it just be that simple.
1950 = we will have flying cars by 2020 fastword 2012 = am i woman or a man , what bathroom should i use!!!!!
Wait so having my identity as a woman be based around my experience of caring and womb and my day-to-day interactions with having a womb is somehow diminishing myself and patriarchy? Notice how she said vagina didn’t even say womb! This is the problem that I have at the transconversation it is completely dismissive of the lived experience of womb-man! My every day life is impacted by the overall health and vitality of my womb! This conversation always comes off as diminishing if dismissive of the significance of the womb and how the womb plays a huge role in our lives as women. The audacity of someone who’s never had a womb to speak with such great authority about what it means to have one! Sorry I’m very spiritual and as a spiritual person I understand that the womb is the center of my overall being as a woman I am also a witch and I practice in ancestral worship I know that my connection to my ancestors is through my womb... so I’m sorry I’m not here for this conversation of my womb is not significance to my experience as a woman it very much is. I think that we are conflating our spiritual selves with our physical self. The physical fleshy tissue body that I am in has the title of women my spiritual essence as a person who I am spiritually is female my spiritual side is fully aligned with my physical side. However in the trans community what you have is people spiritual side not fully alined with their physical. so while you can have a man body your spiritual identity and spiritual essence can be female. which would make you female and make you feminine and put you right next to us as females but that does not make you womb-man! I Believe Transfemale is the correct term to use. Believe they are female and should be able to express there femininity any way they want and be accepted as female...that doesn’t mean they are womb-man! Sorry if that offends anyone but I invite you to read a book called “ The secret woman” this book goes into great detailed knowledge of the significance role the womb plays in the day-to-day lives of women.
Dont apologize, you are right & exact! The whole spiritual journey in this dispensation of matter, time & space is self mastery, mastery of the flesh.
Wait..biology litterally is what makes you a woman. Ill agree to bio-woman.
Everyone trying to box themselves in just to feel special
These alphabet people got some nerve
They come off real bullish! A man could never be fertile in the sense of a woman! Really?? The over moving and gestures are ridiculous! Please know that woman are not thinking about trans woman
It's not just a prefix. A large part of this problem is labeling, I believe. These labels create division, where in most cases it doesn't need to exist.
It does when many cisgendered individuals want there to be a clear line in the sand of what is a trans and what isn’t. Labeling allows for us to categorize ourselves in this society where many feel confused or don’t comprehend.
@@kriskanei7369 Isn’t “trans” the only label needed? If you aren’t a “trans” woman aren’t you a woman? No need for any other label, IMO.
FOUR MAN AND ONE WOMAN
The difference is one is a woman and the other is a man
This conversation is crazy a woman is a woman
Love the blonde hair style on Angelica😍
This what they fight everyday... Hate and judgement 😠... some ppl too stuck in a box to see life is FULL of different People! We all can’t possibly be the same in every way! GET OVER IT
Brothers and sisters don't be fooled by these black face white supremacist.
#stay woke black family
Women are born with vaginas.
YourAverage Mom 🤔 but all babies come from wombs of females. I didn’t write the rules but all babies are the same in that capacity. Did you carry your baby in your womb or back?
The traditional/cis woman faces an uphill battle, she is confronted by the Trans, the robotic AI companion and the idea that A.. is the new vagina. What’s a girl to do?
I AM A REAL WOMAN BORN AND BRED - DEAL WITH IT
I think that you are who you are and if you except who you are then why should i care what another person thinks about me. Just except who you see yourself as and let the world wonder at the beauty that is you.
i thought that was jocelyn hernandez
They tring it. I'm. Sorry
Sick world we live in
🙄…. I’m a WOMAN -- bump that “cis” shit!
Cisgender (sometimes cissexual, often abbreviated to simply cis) is a term for people whose gender identity matches their sex assigned at birth. For example, someone who identifies as a woman and was assigned female at birth is a cisgender woman. The term cisgender is the opposite of the word transgender. Cisgender has its origin in the Latin-derived prefix cis-, meaning "on this side of", which is the opposite of trans-, meaning "across from" or "on the other side of". This usage can be seen in the cis-trans distinction in chemistry, the cis-trans or complementation test in genetics, in Ciscaucasia (from the Russian perspective), in the ancient Roman term Cisalpine Gaul (i.e., "Gaul on this side of the Alps"), Ciskei and Transkei (separated by the Kei River), and more recently, Cisjordan, as distinguished from Transjordan. In the case of gender, cis- describes the alignment of gender identity with assigned sex.[4] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender ----- PERSONALLY I WOULD RATHER BE CALLED A REAL WOMAN!!
@JustThrive
CISGENDER is a newly made up term and the term that's less than 28 years old.
Cis is an old Latin Literature term and science chemistry term and contrary what the trans people & non- binary folks say, the Foundational origin of CIS had absolutely nothing to do with gender or the sex you were so-called "assigned" as.
In the 1990s, A German ssxolog¡st and gender studies college students borrowed, stole & usurp the *CIS* word to use for their own agenda relating to transsexual issues and made the CIS word a gender issue as an excuse to create 2 DIFFERENT types of women (CIS & TRAN) underneath the umbrella of Womanhood so that Women & Transsexuals can be 2 different types of women that are the opposite of each other which is quite insulting to say the least because Women are NOT the opposite of MtF transgenders/Transsexuals !!
Women are the opposite of Men!
On the SCIENCE side of the Latin term, the Foundational origin of CIS & TRANS had to do with science and molecules...NOT GENDER identity! Cisgender is a made up term created in the 90s.
On the Literature side of the Latin term,
*CIS* means to CUT, SLICE , OR KILL which again has has absolutely nothing to do with Gender, Sex or how you identify nor what u were "assigned" at birth.
as WOMEN, if we don't want to use CIS and redefine our womanhood and associate our identity with a term that means destruction, cutting and murder then i think we have every right to reject that cis/Cisgender nonsense and just identify ourselves as WOMEN, REAL WOMEN, natural born or Biological women!
We are *WOMEN*. ....that's our Birthright!! CIS, CisWoman, Cis-hetero, Fish, AFAB & Cisgender is stupid , redundant, insulting and unnecessary!!
*SO I AGREE WITH YOU, PERSONALLY.... I WOULD RATHER BE DEFINED AS A REAL WOMAN TOO!*
@@vinessawess4401 I appreciate your reply. It's useful to expand knowledge on issues like this so that we can make well informed decisions and draw accurate conclusions, especially as a woman in a world that is still very much designed to uphold men. Thank you!
This was very insightful.
Cis women populate the world and Trans women do not, canNOT... A natural woman is just that and does not need or require a prefix. Drop the " CIS", Sis!
Don't call them that they looking for a war trans sisters ⚔️
I'm Not Reducing Me Being A Woman
the definition of cis is normal
Thanks for the explanation. Who invented the term “cis”?
A trans female named Julia Serano
I work with younger persons and when serving a retired man insisted in him explaining his gender and taking offense when he looked bemused. Not having deeper dialogue is causing so much fraught interactions and this segment has left me disappointed. Why are women being placed in this position in taking responsibility for everyone else yet again. My colleagues were taken aback when I declined using pronouns in my emails. It's my choice.
No shade but I thought the trans woman on the top left was Joseline Hernandez at first
See that devil Man with the football shoulders said Someone thought the world was flat 😩 catch that
I think these trans women are disrespectful, saying we are reducing ourselves is horrific.
I am a man. The political correct Community needs to stop labeling people because it's a seriously getting out of hand and this is seriously getting stupid and people who support this or seriously mental deficient on what they need to understand what's truly going on in society
It’s not “ignorant” it’s the way all this is entering like a wrecking ball! Expecting all to know all terms and be embracing overnight, all same differences in those who are not, Cisgender. I’m not against the changes I just want time to process them/they and more. Ugh!
To say cis tells you there is a difference so thanks for using it.
Everyone wanna be anyone but themselves.......
What the Lord created can NO MAN CHANGE.
The doctors are just killing these individuals for greed only to mess them up in many ways that can't change
Y’all have lost your minds, if you think we are going to go along with and accept this new categorization of men and women and our gender identity.. period! God created what he created, man and women. However, whoever you chose to sleep with is between you and our creator, I may not agree with it but I’m not down with this new shit period, not cool! And transgendered men or women are NOT what your trying to be... y’all can’t get pregnant or produce sperm to make babies, stop fooling yourselves folks! However you decide to present yourself to world is between you and our creator but to try to be something that your not, is never a good look and is NOT authentic! Be authentic be natural be who you really are, there nothing more beautiful than Naturally being who you are!
They will loose that battle once people start pushing back i will not call myself a cis want happen
Why can't I just be a woman?
I just feel like don’t name Someone else that’s not their name I was born a girl/female so I am a woman your not putting no name on me
That term is insulting to the trans community’s collective intelligence in about 5 different ways. It’s also a bully movement that most trans people were never about. Have the confidence to be trans and not need to stoop to dominating society and bullying society with your insecurities inspired language. (Really a government/global elites movement) This movement bodes unwell for future trans, as well as “cis” people, bc it’s about getting EVERYONE in the habit of bending over for thought and speech control.
Michell'es melanin is POPPIN
They Are Not Women Period Because They Had A Surgery
Very informative interview!!❤️ I never want to offend them so I’m glad they broke it down for us to learn . They all look beautiful tho 🎀
But they offend us?
ITS ONLY 2 GENDERS. MALE OR FEMALE
WOMAN you are WOMAN - nothing else- get rid of the CIS it is not needed.
Michelle...rambled about what? No
The Transcommunity did not come up with the word cis gender it’s in the dictionary and in biology books so if you have an issue with that word talk to the scientist and the people that published a dictionary