I don't know what it is about these two, but I prefer them over Tommy and Grace. Especially because Lizzie has seen every side of Tommy and still loves him
But did you not get the iconic scene in S1 where Tommy says “now you’ve seen me’? Grace has seen him too but worried about him because she knew he was putting himself and their family in danger not because she didn’t accept him.
@@ChristinApril yea but i feel like they dropped the ball with her character, intentionally or not. yes, i love grace and her relationship with tommy and yes, those moments were powerful but i think more development was given to tommy and lizzie. how healthy that love was is up for debate but their relationship was more interesting because of that.
I love their performances. She is so much more suited for him. She is from his world and are best friends. She doesn’t try to change him. I love their love story. Thank you
I like lizzie so much I don’t get how so many people hate her I feel like it’s because they can’t handle the idea that tommy dates a woman that is not that soft/sweet
People hate her because Tommy married her. They even insists that Lizzie trapped Tommy in marriage using their daughter which is absolutely ridiculous. He's Tommy Shelby. He can do whatever he want. If he doesn't want the child and the marriage, Lizzie can do nothing about it! Those haters really love to weave stories as if they were co-writers of Steven Knight! They also like to make her look bad! Lizzie's not bad. She loves a child that's not even hers!
I agree, I don't understand why they don't love Lizzie, if she has been an incredible woman who has never betrayed Tommy, Grace was cute but she was a liar, you just have to see how she cheated on him in the first seasons, her wedding with Grece was stressful for him and her family just see how she was on her wedding day, Lizzie is the only woman who didn't ask for money or anything, just the truth because that's what matters most
season 6 better give us Tommy and Lizzie justice. They had some tender moments recently Tommy has to be falling for her like she has for him all these years.
They are each other's best friends! I don't know of people would agree with me or not but, I always felt that Tommy always had a soft side for Lizzie. Firstly, he didn't let John marry her. Secondly, he did everything he could to make her life better. Thirdly, he told in front of everyone how it was only Lizzie who stopped his heart from breaking (even when Grace was settled in the US) . Lastly, my favourite part was when Tommy was furious at Mosely. Their relationship is so underrated and people always go for like the bad guy + good girl stuff, that's why Tommy and Grace's relationship is so popularised. However, if we look a little closely, it is the mischievous pairs who make it work and try and keep things realistic! That's why I prefer Tizzie over Trace...
I disagree if you ask any woman if theyd like to be lizzie theyd say no because the way he treats her is so disgusting. first he didnt let john marry her is because he wanted his brother to be with a good woman who would be able to take care of the kids not still prostituting. The way he spoke of her is just disrespectful he has no respect for her and she allows him to treat her this way because she is so desperate for his love he took on lizzie because she was sort of family and he didnt want strangers in the company business and if your talking about season 5 he only married her because she was pregnant and hes a politican a wife looks good he said that she stopped his heart from breaking after grace died.Lizzie is always tommys second/third opinion thats love? he was furious because his arch enemy has slept with his wife and knows she was a Prostitute but you can feel how you feel but i dont ship them because its not love im not attacking you i just wanted to let you know what i thought on your comment
I think Tommy is actually proud and cares deeply for Lizzie. He is approving of how Lizzie handles Mosley as he gives her a wink after she drops the coin into Mosley's glass. Before that while in the pantry,, Tommmy does say that if Mosley lays a finger on Lizzie, he will be meat for Johnny Dogg's fire. Perhaps it is simply a matter of interpretation.
Agreed. I think people are not used to unconditional love and unconventional pairings. The fact that Tommy could have sent anyone to hire lizzie when his brother wanted to marry her gave me a clue in the first season that there was a pull. He always kept her close. They think he's too grand for her, but she is too grand for him. And he knows it. She is want makes him feel good. He keeps telling her she is who calms him, comforts him, he loves her and he marries her. Tommy wouldn't marry just anyone. She loves a broken man, yes, but that broken man absolutely loves her. He has never been casual with her as he's been with the other women save Grace. I think the level of love he has for lizzie is equivalent, deeper and murkier than the love he had for grace. And just as beautiful.
Tommy×Lizzie are better suited for one another coz they know the real meaning of hardships, compromises, disappointments... they r self made n know how harsh n cruel the outside world is!! They're opportunists n survivalists whose bond is based on familiarity, loyalty n an unspoken connection.
Ahhh. Finally some Tommy and Lizzie content ! When he said “ I still want things that are nice” he was so vulnerable there , almost with pleading eyes, the only other time he gave that look was with Tatiana where he allowed himself to be totally vulnerable , l’m seeing the same look here , it’s nice to see him opening up a bit more , even it was in face of tragedy, l guess we are getting a glimpse of what he meant when he said she was the only one who stopped his heart from breaking!
@@nancyamabile1096 why come on a lizzie/tommy video to say this? there are hundreds of tommy/grace videos to watch as it's a popular ship. hope you find them and enjoy!
@@nancyamabile1096 agree Tomas one true love is grace even the show runner said that grace was his one true love. I think Tomas loves lizzy but he is not in love with her.
such beautiful symbolism with the money in season one episode four and at the end of season three ; Lizzie took the money Season 1 Episode 4 because part of her was still in love with Tommy and I think she just wanted one more chance to be with him in that way ... at the end of season three she's the only one who refuses to take the money from him and it's because she acted out of love and didn't want to be paid for their time together. when tommy tells her in front of everyone that they money wasn't just for the sex, but it was because she was the one who kept his heart from breaking when no one else did, I get chills every time.
I didn't realize there was Lizzie hate😲, WTH! The Tommy Lizzie storyline has so much more depth to it, they come from the same background, I think that has been his intrigue with Grace and the other women, opposites side of the track thing, anyhow Tommy and Lizzie are just lovely together.
I hope we get more Tommy/Lizzie and just Lizzie in general in S6. I love them together so much and she’s such a great character This was a beautiful video!
I hope so too!! I would like to see some wife vs wife scenes. Lizzie Shelby vs Diana Mosely (gangster vs. Aristocrat) that would be so much fun to watch!!
This is a video only about the LIZZIE and TOMMY, could those Grace fans just try not to ruin our fun? STOP COMMENTING how you love grace-tommy or how tommy would never love anyone but G, for F sake!!!NOBODY CARES!!! Btw, this video is just a masterpiece, can’t love it more❤️❤️
Thank you!! I Just find annoying that people from other fandom comment here cuz 1)I dont care about other ships and 2)i dont go and comment on other ships videos cuz even if I dont like them I know all the time and energy that takes making a video
This is such an old video but I'ma leave my two cents sdfkjlsdf Tommy and Lizzie's relationship is incredibly tricky to me. Like, to me, they definitely were not friends before he got together with Grace. Their relationship really felt like an exchange because it was, he'd pay her for her "time" and that was that. After Grace left for the US, it was that same exchange - but more in a rebound sense, hence why there was that moment were Lizzie said "I wish you wouldn't pay me, like normal people." and Tommy essentially disregarded it. Then after Grace died, they had that moment were Lizzie had to ask if Tommy was thinking of her (her either being Grace or the previous girl he used to like before he went to war, can't remember) either way, Lizzie has always been used as like a replacement or a placeholder. I think ONLY when she finally got pregnant with Tommy's child that he was forced to take her a little seriously and essentially forced to do the right thing, which was marry her. And then you watch their dynamic as a married couple and it's completely strained. Tommy doesn't tell her anything, she's constantly left out of the loop, Tommy uses her past as ammo when they're fighting - the works. However, I feel like their relationship really took a big turning point when Lizzie put her foot down and absolutely demanded that Tommy take her seriously and that he treat her with respect and I feel like when that happened, they actually had some growth as a couple. Yeah she's not Grace, but she's someone who wants to be in the life, she chose it, and wants to be Tommy's equal rather than someone he married because she got pregnant. I don't think they love each other just yet, personally, but I feel like once she put her foot down and was willing to show her worth and her determination that she was going to withstand all of Tommy's mess that that formed an admiration from Tommy's end (granted they have had some bonding moments, but I feel like those moments got overshadowed by other things that had been going on at the same time, aka Tommy only really focusing on Grace etc lol). I have to see where they'll go in future seasons, but I think their relationship is one that took a lot, a LOT, of work to get to where it is now. (I also do believe that they do have an understanding of each other, like they don't hate each other, but I definitely feel like love is a strong word for these two, but they do have a bond together that does extend past the child they made). I definitely like Lizzie isn't a woman to continue taking things lying down and I do like her with Thomas even though they've had a very rocky start. I really want to see where they go together as a couple and as a family.
You've worded it out perfectly! At least there were still people who can truly understand the thing that's happening between these two. I just can't wait for what's in in season 6!!!
yeeees at first i hated lizzie but when i continued watching the show i realized that she really is the one for tommy, and i hope tommy will realize how vital lizzie for her, he's just focusing on the past which is not the concern anymore, lizzie deserve better. i hope they will not turn down lizzie
Each women in Tommy's life brought something to his life, but my soft spot is tommy and Lizzie, they have more in common and they help each other grow. Thanks for the video.
Lovely indeed! Videos of Tommy and Lizzie are very rare and this is so well done. They just fit so well together and I think will only get stronger. Love how SK has developed their relationship, they are my absolute favorite!
@@Meme-jo7uj In my opinion Grace is more like his dream love.. A dream that became true but got shattered anyways. A person always finds himself yearning more for things he didn't or couldn't have than the things he actually has (no matter how good they're)
You did an excellent job, great edit. I love these two together. Lizzie is one of a kind character, same as Tommy. They are fab together, good to see more fans liking them.
I ALWAYS preferred Lizzie over Grace... even May. Right from the first Season on, even if she was barely seen in it. I don’t get at ALL why Grace is worshipped like some kind of angel by most in the fandom while Lizzie is treated like she is some kind of gold digger that has manipulated Tommy into being with her... when it’s actually been the other way around, lol. Grace and her relationship with Tommy is so badly written and I also don’t like the actress. Lizzie is a character with true depth and she fits so much better with Tommy. It breaks my heart how badly he often treats her. I hope the writers will FINALLY allow for Tommy to at least honestly appreciate Lizzie at some point before the end. She is his pillar that always caught and grounded him. But I have a feeling Lizzie will never get that, because even the writers seem to prefer Grace. I swear to god, if they bring that blonde devil back for some bullshit reason I’ll quit the show.
Yes same Grace doesn't even know how to handle a gun but whereas Lizzie stood fearlessly for her kids . Grace grow up in nice family she studied whereas Lizzie dropped the school early so what people expect from her that she be give speeches or something.
Your video is so beautiful. Not too much video about Tommy and Lizzie on CZcams or Instagram, so I am really happy to enjoy your video. I always love Tommy x Lizzie as well. Thank you.
Lizzie has always been Tommy's safe place..she's loyal and he knows she loves him,even though he doesn't reciprocate that love to her Has never tried to change him and accepts what he is Hopefully when the film comes out,that Tommy & Lizzie find their way back to each other. Tommy would never have left Charlie with Lizzie if he didn't trust her 100%, he knows she loves Charlie as much as she loved Ruby ❤
tommy and lizzie are my favorite “couple.” i guess if that’s what you want to say bcuz grace played him but it also breaks my heart how she and him fell in love that’s why she left the job (as a agent or something.) sorry i haven’t watched it in a while.
On every Tommy and Lizzie video, I freaking watch there needs to be some fan saying that they liked Tommy with grace better! Everyone has their own ship and I respect that but what I don't respect is degraded someone hard work on their edit saying this. The title already says what kind of video it is why bother commenting that you don't like Lizzie with tommy?
I really like Lizzie and May Charleton over Grace.... Grace really betrayed her first husband when they could not have a child.... And he was heartbroken and did suicide bcz of her.... Still she was not sad about it like tommy was when he lost her... If she really loved Tommy, then she could have come in search of HIM to birmingham before getting married and could have waited for him.... May Charleton, a widower or Lizzie could have been the perfect guy for Tommy.. Some times how Tommy treats Lizzie is quite sad... She deserves much better than that...
Someone told me that Grace was wearing the purple veil as a sign of “ mourning “ for her dead husband on her wedding to Tommy ! But WTF would any woman wear a mourning garment on the day she is supposed to be getting married to love of her life especially a mourning garment for the death of her previous husband !!! Which makes me think that Tommy & Grace getting married was rushed & unprepared! ... why not wait until the period of “ mourning is over “ then get married on a new slate ! I suppose they had to marry quick before her stomach started showing
É triste que tantos fãs se recusem a reconhecer o quanto Lizzie significava para Tommy. Todos fazem parecer que Grace era muito melhor, mas, honestamente, ela simplesmente não viveu o suficiente para provar isso. Lizzie esteve com ele desde o início. Ele não facilitou as coisas para ela e ela o apoiou nos momentos mais difíceis de sua vida. Não entendo por que há tanta violência contra ela. Meu casal perfeito lizzie e tommy ❤
Loved Lizzie absolutely hated grace and I didn't even get chemistry with them.... But him and Lizzie on screen were the best!!!! She was the only one that truly knew him and let him do what he needed to do.... I wish Stephen Knight had made him reject Grace for Lizzie in the writing and Lizzie was his advisor after Polly.
i believe that you learn to love someone so i think maybe he really loves her but i havent finished it so we'll see. also, he treated her like shit so i would like to see some character develpoment
another thing is that grace was killed off because tommy was happy when they were together and tommy isnt meant to be happy. so is he happy with lizzy? i have no clue, also, i love the video!!
Это неожиданно от бывшей фанатки Грэйс (*барабанная дробь*) Но для меня лучшей парой для Томми является Лиззи.❤️ Томми и Лиззи получили свою жизнь ,выбравшись с социальных низов. Лиззи любила Томми по-настоящему,в то время ,как Джон ей просто нравился. Лиззи была хорошей матерью для Чарли,хотя однажды и использовала Руби в качестве манипуляции. Но! Это безумие было только от большой любви к Томасу. И если говорить о любви Томаса и Грэйс и том,что Грэйс помогла ему уйти от своей травмы,то Лиззи стала единственной,кто склеил его сердце уже после смерти Грейс. Поэтому я считаю ,что Томми и зрители недооценили Лиззи,несчастная Лиззи терпела грубость и холодность Томаса,хотя Грэйс совсем не видела его таким. Легко любить ,когда любовь взаимна. Думаю,будь к Грэйс такое отношение ,как к Лиззи,они бы расстались,она бы такого не потерпела,Лиззи же по роду прошлой профессии видела мужчин хуже Томми. Помимо любви, это было одной из причин её прибывания с Томми. Я любила Грэйс. Но она просто вовремя умерла,она не успела проявить негативные черты в полной мере. Поэтому осталась «идеальной» в глазах Тома,недосягаемость после смерти и былые воспоминания Томми сделали её олицетворением покоя для него. В этом был секрет их любви в каком-то смысле. Иногда,чтобы быть любовью всей жизни ,надо вовремя уйти или умереть. Лиззи со своими ошибками и недостатками более живая,чем Грэйс - сладкая искусственная девушка-картинка. Лиззи даже внешне более эффектна,чем мышка Грэйс,хотя внешне я предпочитаю аристократичную Мэй. Но Мэй и Томми лишь временно согревали друг друга в одиночестве,я люблю Мэй,но она хотела его поменять ,а,значит,они не пара. Татьяна - люблю эту развратную штучку ,она отражение Томми,она его безумие и страсти в женском облике,они оба мертвы внутри,она поняла кое-что о его душе ,но они были лишь развлечением и увлечением друг друга. Лиззи заслуживает Томми и его любовь❤️. Или хотя бы глуповатого и милого Джонни,который любил её,потому что даже после брака он относился к ней нежно. Она заслуживала любви и нежности Джонни. Я люблю Томми как мужчину,но Джон симпатичен мне как человек,поскольку он добрее. Мне жаль,что Томми разрушил их союз. Они могли стать прекрасной любящей парой. Лиззи получила бы трепетное отношение от Джона и была бы счастлива с ним. Только вспомните ,как Джон утешал её на скачках…💔 В этом столько нежности к Лиззи. Того,что она заслужила. Но для Томми она лишь вещь. А вообще я люблю ещё одну пару…Томми и сигарета😂 - вот с кем Томми точно не расстанется))).
Eu me pergunto quais as qualidades da Grace pra ficarem shippando ela com o thomas, pq ela queria viver um sonho com ele totalmente fora da realidade dele e de quem ele era. Que ele era apaixonado por ela todos sabemos, mas a mulher que realmente agregou na vida dele foi a Lizzie. ela sempre foi o pilar dele depois da tia poly, ela nuca traiu ele em nenhum secustánçia sempre estava ao lado dele. Até a May entregou mais do que a Grace, e ela traiu thomas uma vez e trairia de novo .
I think near the end she is trying to look out for her kids ( one of whom is Grace’s child that she is raising as her own ) ! Seeing as suicidal Tommy seems to not want to give AF anymore ! Even with a wife & 2 kids . He Keeps getting into dodgy deals and dealing with more & more dangerous people. She showed that when Johnny Doggs & Aberama turned up at his house and Charlie witnessed everything. She told him to get his sh!t together and not subject his children to potentially dangerous situations although Charlie had already been kidnapped as infant , she didn’t want him to witness his father possibly Getting killed in a gang war that went wrong .
i just can’t bring myself to like them since i have a feeling that it’s kinda one sided, esp since he’ll probably never love anyone the way he loves grace and still isn’t over her. i feel like he married her since she was pregnant with his child
The one thing I hated about their relationship is how Lizzie reacted after Tommy tried to kill himself- I know it was different those days but it seriously pissed me off
ANYONE WHO COMMENT ABOUT HOW GRACE IS BETTER IS GOING TO GET BLOCK. I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR SHIP. DONT COMMENT ON MINE, I DONT COMMENT ON YOUR VIDEOS
PERIODT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly I we do not tolerate Lizzie slander
I LOVE YOU 🥺🤎🤏🏼
You won my heart 💓
YESSIR.
I don't know what it is about these two, but I prefer them over Tommy and Grace. Especially because Lizzie has seen every side of Tommy and still loves him
Sameeee
I want grace back may be....
Literally it's her the best...
But end of grace 🤒
But did you not get the iconic scene in S1 where Tommy says “now you’ve seen me’? Grace has seen him too but worried about him because she knew he was putting himself and their family in danger not because she didn’t accept him.
@@ChristinApril yea but i feel like they dropped the ball with her character, intentionally or not. yes, i love grace and her relationship with tommy and yes, those moments were powerful but i think more development was given to tommy and lizzie. how healthy that love was is up for debate but their relationship was more interesting because of that.
I love their performances. She is so much more suited for him. She is from his world and are best friends. She doesn’t try to change him. I love their love story. Thank you
I like lizzie so much I don’t get how so many people hate her
I feel like it’s because they can’t handle the idea that tommy dates a woman that is not that soft/sweet
That's right.. Many people always root for fairytale and cute love story whereas Lizzie and Tommy are the real deal.
People hate her because Tommy married her. They even insists that Lizzie trapped Tommy in marriage using their daughter which is absolutely ridiculous. He's Tommy Shelby. He can do whatever he want. If he doesn't want the child and the marriage, Lizzie can do nothing about it! Those haters really love to weave stories as if they were co-writers of Steven Knight! They also like to make her look bad! Lizzie's not bad. She loves a child that's not even hers!
@@aleli9204 true
I agree, I don't understand why they don't love Lizzie, if she has been an incredible woman who has never betrayed Tommy, Grace was cute but she was a liar, you just have to see how she cheated on him in the first seasons, her wedding with Grece was stressful for him and her family just see how she was on her wedding day, Lizzie is the only woman who didn't ask for money or anything, just the truth because that's what matters most
Good to see that people are writing good about lizzie and understand her character .
season 6 better give us Tommy and Lizzie justice. They had some tender moments recently Tommy has to be falling for her like she has for him all these years.
They are each other's best friends! I don't know of people would agree with me or not but, I always felt that Tommy always had a soft side for Lizzie. Firstly, he didn't let John marry her. Secondly, he did everything he could to make her life better. Thirdly, he told in front of everyone how it was only Lizzie who stopped his heart from breaking (even when Grace was settled in the US) . Lastly, my favourite part was when Tommy was furious at Mosely. Their relationship is so underrated and people always go for like the bad guy + good girl stuff, that's why Tommy and Grace's relationship is so popularised. However, if we look a little closely, it is the mischievous pairs who make it work and try and keep things realistic! That's why I prefer Tizzie over Trace...
I disagree if you ask any woman if theyd like to be lizzie theyd say no because the way he treats her is so disgusting. first he didnt let john marry her is because he wanted his brother to be with a good woman who would be able to take care of the kids not still prostituting. The way he spoke of her is just disrespectful he has no respect for her and she allows him to treat her this way because she is so desperate for his love he took on lizzie because she was sort of family and he didnt want strangers in the company business and if your talking about season 5 he only married her because she was pregnant and hes a politican a wife looks good he said that she stopped his heart from breaking after grace died.Lizzie is always tommys second/third opinion thats love? he was furious because his arch enemy has slept with his wife and knows she was a Prostitute but you can feel how you feel but i dont ship them because its not love im not attacking you i just wanted to let you know what i thought on your comment
I think Tommy is actually proud and cares deeply for Lizzie. He is approving of how Lizzie handles Mosley as he gives her a wink after she
drops the coin into Mosley's glass. Before that while in the pantry,, Tommmy does say that if Mosley lays a finger on Lizzie, he will be meat for Johnny Dogg's fire. Perhaps it is simply a matter of interpretation.
Agreed. I think people are not used to unconditional love and unconventional pairings. The fact that Tommy could have sent anyone to hire lizzie when his brother wanted to marry her gave me a clue in the first season that there was a pull. He always kept her close. They think he's too grand for her, but she is too grand for him. And he knows it. She is want makes him feel good. He keeps telling her she is who calms him, comforts him, he loves her and he marries her. Tommy wouldn't marry just anyone. She loves a broken man, yes, but that broken man absolutely loves her. He has never been casual with her as he's been with the other women save Grace. I think the level of love he has for lizzie is equivalent, deeper and murkier than the love he had for grace. And just as beautiful.
Totally agree...
Agreed..I also think they are super hot together!
They have same strong personality so when we see them together
we can see a soulmate couple..
Tommy×Lizzie are better suited for one another coz they know the real meaning of hardships, compromises, disappointments... they r self made n know how harsh n cruel the outside world is!! They're opportunists n survivalists whose bond is based on familiarity, loyalty n an unspoken connection.
Well said, so true this!
Couldn't have said it better
Agree!! I would like to see some wife vs wife scenes. Lizzie Shelby vs Diana Mosely (gangster vs. Aristocrat) that would be so much fun to watch!!
Omg that's what I want to say!!
Ahhh. Finally some Tommy and Lizzie content ! When he said “ I still want things that are nice” he was so vulnerable there , almost with pleading eyes, the only other time he gave that look was with Tatiana where he allowed himself to be totally vulnerable , l’m seeing the same look here , it’s nice to see him opening up a bit more , even it was in face of tragedy, l guess we are getting a glimpse of what he meant when he said she was the only one who stopped his heart from breaking!
I love this sm 😭 Tommy and Lizzie are honestly my favorite and they do not get enough love!!
Morgan Roberts totally agree❤️❤️❤️
They are together only because she was pregnant, he isn't in love with her. Grace was his true love and soul mate
@@nancyamabile1096 why come on a lizzie/tommy video to say this? there are hundreds of tommy/grace videos to watch as it's a popular ship. hope you find them and enjoy!
Morgan Roberts right!!!
@@nancyamabile1096 agree Tomas one true love is grace even the show runner said that grace was his one true love. I think Tomas loves lizzy but he is not in love with her.
“So that’s why you brought me in here…to lay your claim.” And then Tommy’s face and grin HAHA
such beautiful symbolism with the money in season one episode four and at the end of season three ; Lizzie took the money Season 1 Episode 4 because part of her was still in love with Tommy and I think she just wanted one more chance to be with him in that way ... at the end of season three she's the only one who refuses to take the money from him and it's because she acted out of love and didn't want to be paid for their time together. when tommy tells her in front of everyone that they money wasn't just for the sex, but it was because she was the one who kept his heart from breaking when no one else did, I get chills every time.
I didn't realize there was Lizzie hate😲, WTH! The Tommy Lizzie storyline has so much more depth to it, they come from the same background, I think that has been his intrigue with Grace and the other women, opposites side of the track thing, anyhow Tommy and Lizzie are just lovely together.
they're my favorite and i'm so happy to see more people liking them together.
Amazing!! Tommy and Lizzie deserve so much more love! ♥️
I hope we get more Tommy/Lizzie and just Lizzie in general in S6. I love them together so much and she’s such a great character
This was a beautiful video!
I hope so too!! I would like to see some wife vs wife scenes. Lizzie Shelby vs Diana Mosely (gangster vs. Aristocrat) that would be so much fun to watch!!
My favorite couple, regardless of whether he loved Gracie, was Lizzie who was always by his side besides that she loves him.
I read each and every comments here, trust me my tears came out.. I love you all who supported TIZZIE couple not trace
Thomas and Lizzie 🥰🥰
This is a video only about the LIZZIE and TOMMY, could those Grace fans just try not to ruin our fun? STOP COMMENTING how you love grace-tommy or how tommy would never love anyone but G, for F sake!!!NOBODY CARES!!! Btw, this video is just a masterpiece, can’t love it more❤️❤️
Thank you!!
I Just find annoying that people from other fandom comment here cuz 1)I dont care about other ships and 2)i dont go and comment on other ships videos cuz even if I dont like them I know all the time and energy that takes making a video
This is such an old video but I'ma leave my two cents sdfkjlsdf
Tommy and Lizzie's relationship is incredibly tricky to me. Like, to me, they definitely were not friends before he got together with Grace. Their relationship really felt like an exchange because it was, he'd pay her for her "time" and that was that. After Grace left for the US, it was that same exchange - but more in a rebound sense, hence why there was that moment were Lizzie said "I wish you wouldn't pay me, like normal people." and Tommy essentially disregarded it. Then after Grace died, they had that moment were Lizzie had to ask if Tommy was thinking of her (her either being Grace or the previous girl he used to like before he went to war, can't remember) either way, Lizzie has always been used as like a replacement or a placeholder.
I think ONLY when she finally got pregnant with Tommy's child that he was forced to take her a little seriously and essentially forced to do the right thing, which was marry her. And then you watch their dynamic as a married couple and it's completely strained. Tommy doesn't tell her anything, she's constantly left out of the loop, Tommy uses her past as ammo when they're fighting - the works.
However, I feel like their relationship really took a big turning point when Lizzie put her foot down and absolutely demanded that Tommy take her seriously and that he treat her with respect and I feel like when that happened, they actually had some growth as a couple. Yeah she's not Grace, but she's someone who wants to be in the life, she chose it, and wants to be Tommy's equal rather than someone he married because she got pregnant. I don't think they love each other just yet, personally, but I feel like once she put her foot down and was willing to show her worth and her determination that she was going to withstand all of Tommy's mess that that formed an admiration from Tommy's end (granted they have had some bonding moments, but I feel like those moments got overshadowed by other things that had been going on at the same time, aka Tommy only really focusing on Grace etc lol). I have to see where they'll go in future seasons, but I think their relationship is one that took a lot, a LOT, of work to get to where it is now. (I also do believe that they do have an understanding of each other, like they don't hate each other, but I definitely feel like love is a strong word for these two, but they do have a bond together that does extend past the child they made).
I definitely like Lizzie isn't a woman to continue taking things lying down and I do like her with Thomas even though they've had a very rocky start. I really want to see where they go together as a couple and as a family.
You've worded it out perfectly! At least there were still people who can truly understand the thing that's happening between these two. I just can't wait for what's in in season 6!!!
yeeees at first i hated lizzie but when i continued watching the show i realized that she really is the one for tommy, and i hope tommy will realize how vital lizzie for her, he's just focusing on the past which is not the concern anymore, lizzie deserve better. i hope they will not turn down lizzie
I ship them so much.
She fits him so much better than that bland Cardboard personality Grace.
Omgg i thought i was the only one that didn’t think Grace was ✨special ✨
Yeah! Same here
Yeah grace kinda pissed me off.
Each women in Tommy's life brought something to his life, but my soft spot is tommy and Lizzie, they have more in common and they help each other grow. Thanks for the video.
Team Lizzie 😍😍❤️
Yes! 🙂
Lizzie Shelby ❤
Lizzie is the woman for Tom. they are the one for each other. I like May too but Lizzie is the one
Lovely indeed! Videos of Tommy and Lizzie are very rare and this is so well done. They just fit so well together and I think will only get stronger. Love how SK has developed their relationship, they are my absolute favorite!
Lizzie meu cristalzinho injustiçado, espero que Thommy a valorize como ela merece 😔😭
Lizzie and Tommy are the best characters! I honestly like more Lizzie than Grace.
Yesss!! I would like to see some wife vs wife scenes. Lizzie Shelby vs Diana Mosely (gangster vs. Aristocrat) that would be so much fun to watch!!
Tommy♥️Lizzy
I am great fan of them
Lizzie > Grace.
Don't dare to change my fookin statement.
Team Lizzie!
Is it just me who likes Lizzie better than Grace, or any other woman who were interested in Tommy? 🤔🤔
Me too!!! ❤
Really loved this & them so much! Definitely deserve much more attention than they get. 💜💜
She is like a fill in for grace b/c shes gone they are straight together ig but grace is his one true love.
@@Meme-jo7uj In my opinion Grace is more like his dream love.. A dream that became true but got shattered anyways.
A person always finds himself yearning more for things he didn't or couldn't have than the things he actually has (no matter how good they're)
Brianna Lott Never liked Grace & that very well could be true but I personally think he’s always cared for Lizzie in some way, even before Grace 🤷🏽♀️
I thought I would be Team Grace when I first started watching but it's honestly Team Lizzie all the way!
I LOVE THIS COUPLE SO MUCH. BEAUTIFUL EDIT!!
Thank you! Yes, it is very lovely!
Lizzie is the best ❤️
Amazing😍 I love them so much.
You did an excellent job, great edit. I love these two together. Lizzie is one of a kind character, same as Tommy. They are fab together, good to see more fans liking them.
I prefer Lizzie's and Tommy's relationship SM more than Grace's
I want the next season 7. I hope Lizzie have pregnant child's Tommy.
They are so good for husband and wife ❤️. Tommy have feel real love for Lizzie
Não vai ter season 7, mas sim um filme. Eu tbm gostaria que a Lizzie engravidasse novamente.
I ALWAYS preferred Lizzie over Grace... even May. Right from the first Season on, even if she was barely seen in it. I don’t get at ALL why Grace is worshipped like some kind of angel by most in the fandom while Lizzie is treated like she is some kind of gold digger that has manipulated Tommy into being with her... when it’s actually been the other way around, lol. Grace and her relationship with Tommy is so badly written and I also don’t like the actress. Lizzie is a character with true depth and she fits so much better with Tommy. It breaks my heart how badly he often treats her. I hope the writers will FINALLY allow for Tommy to at least honestly appreciate Lizzie at some point before the end. She is his pillar that always caught and grounded him. But I have a feeling Lizzie will never get that, because even the writers seem to prefer Grace. I swear to god, if they bring that blonde devil back for some bullshit reason I’ll quit the show.
Yes same Grace doesn't even know how to handle a gun but whereas Lizzie stood fearlessly for her kids . Grace grow up in nice family she studied whereas Lizzie dropped the school early so what people expect from her that she be give speeches or something.
My faves ❤❤❤
Your video is so beautiful. Not too much video about Tommy and Lizzie on CZcams or Instagram, so I am really happy to enjoy your video. I always love Tommy x Lizzie as well. Thank you.
Thomas Loved in different ways...years past Thomas learned to loved..🤗
What a beautiful edit❤ I love these 2 together. They go so well
What a wonderful video. Thank you!
Lizzie has always been Tommy's safe place..she's loyal and he knows she loves him,even though he doesn't reciprocate that love to her
Has never tried to change him and accepts what he is
Hopefully when the film comes out,that Tommy & Lizzie find their way back to each other.
Tommy would never have left Charlie with Lizzie if he didn't trust her 100%, he knows she loves Charlie as much as she loved Ruby ❤
Lizzie deserves to be loved... And happy as well 😢
Make more videos of Tommy and Lizzie please 💕
i will when the new season is finished ❤️
@@ferdugh1203 hey dude
@@chelsVlogsaround0699 i know, i havent been available to finished to season yet
Thomas e Lizzie! ❤
I ship them so much!!!
tommy and lizzie are my favorite “couple.” i guess if that’s what you want to say bcuz grace played him but it also breaks my heart how she and him fell in love that’s why she left the job (as a agent or something.) sorry i haven’t watched it in a while.
On every Tommy and Lizzie video, I freaking watch there needs to be some fan saying that they liked Tommy with grace better! Everyone has their own ship and I respect that but what I don't respect is degraded someone hard work on their edit saying this. The title already says what kind of video it is why bother commenting that you don't like Lizzie with tommy?
Thanks. Im tired of all the comments...
Thanks for your comment. It’s right
I really like Lizzie and May Charleton over Grace.... Grace really betrayed her first husband when they could not have a child.... And he was heartbroken and did suicide bcz of her.... Still she was not sad about it like tommy was when he lost her... If she really loved Tommy, then she could have come in search of HIM to birmingham before getting married and could have waited for him.... May Charleton, a widower or Lizzie could have been the perfect guy for Tommy.. Some times how Tommy treats Lizzie is quite sad... She deserves much better than that...
Someone told me that Grace was wearing the purple veil as a sign of
“ mourning “ for her dead husband on her wedding to Tommy ! But WTF would any woman wear a mourning garment on the day she is supposed to be getting married to love of her life especially a mourning garment for the death of her previous husband !!! Which makes me think that Tommy & Grace getting married was rushed & unprepared! ... why not wait until the period of “ mourning is over “ then get married on a new slate ! I suppose they had to marry quick before her stomach started showing
Love this!!
É triste que tantos fãs se recusem a reconhecer o quanto Lizzie significava para Tommy. Todos fazem parecer que Grace era muito melhor, mas, honestamente, ela simplesmente não viveu o suficiente para provar isso. Lizzie esteve com ele desde o início. Ele não facilitou as coisas para ela e ela o apoiou nos momentos mais difíceis de sua vida. Não entendo por que há tanta violência contra ela. Meu casal perfeito lizzie e tommy ❤
team lizzie
Thankyou so much for this video❤ ,this couple is so underrsated
Lindos
I wish tommy loved lizzie too like not how madly he loved grace but lizzie too deserved his love :) It's heartbreaking
this video is ab tom nd lizzie not ur grace🙄
Amoooooooooo
Loved Lizzie absolutely hated grace and I didn't even get chemistry with them.... But him and Lizzie on screen were the best!!!! She was the only one that truly knew him and let him do what he needed to do.... I wish Stephen Knight had made him reject Grace for Lizzie in the writing and Lizzie was his advisor after Polly.
i believe that you learn to love someone so i think maybe he really loves her but i havent finished it so we'll see. also, he treated her like shit so i would like to see some character develpoment
😍😍😍
another thing is that grace was killed off because tommy was happy when they were together and tommy isnt meant to be happy. so is he happy with lizzy? i have no clue, also, i love the video!!
Это неожиданно от бывшей фанатки Грэйс (*барабанная дробь*)
Но для меня лучшей парой для Томми является Лиззи.❤️
Томми и Лиззи получили свою жизнь ,выбравшись с социальных низов. Лиззи любила Томми по-настоящему,в то время ,как Джон ей просто нравился.
Лиззи была хорошей матерью для Чарли,хотя однажды и использовала Руби в качестве манипуляции. Но! Это безумие было только от большой любви к Томасу.
И если говорить о любви Томаса и Грэйс и том,что Грэйс помогла ему уйти от своей травмы,то Лиззи стала единственной,кто склеил его сердце уже после смерти Грейс. Поэтому я считаю ,что Томми и зрители недооценили Лиззи,несчастная Лиззи терпела грубость и холодность Томаса,хотя Грэйс совсем не видела его таким. Легко любить ,когда любовь взаимна. Думаю,будь к Грэйс такое отношение ,как к Лиззи,они бы расстались,она бы такого не потерпела,Лиззи же по роду прошлой профессии видела мужчин хуже Томми. Помимо любви, это было одной из причин её прибывания с Томми.
Я любила Грэйс. Но она просто вовремя умерла,она не успела проявить негативные черты в полной мере. Поэтому осталась «идеальной» в глазах Тома,недосягаемость после смерти и былые воспоминания Томми сделали её олицетворением покоя для него. В этом был секрет их любви в каком-то смысле. Иногда,чтобы быть любовью всей жизни ,надо вовремя уйти или умереть.
Лиззи со своими ошибками и недостатками более живая,чем Грэйс - сладкая искусственная девушка-картинка.
Лиззи даже внешне более эффектна,чем мышка Грэйс,хотя внешне я предпочитаю аристократичную Мэй.
Но Мэй и Томми лишь временно согревали друг друга в одиночестве,я люблю Мэй,но она хотела его поменять ,а,значит,они не пара.
Татьяна - люблю эту развратную штучку ,она отражение Томми,она его безумие и страсти в женском облике,они оба мертвы внутри,она поняла кое-что о его душе ,но они были лишь развлечением и увлечением друг друга.
Лиззи заслуживает Томми и его любовь❤️.
Или хотя бы глуповатого и милого Джонни,который любил её,потому что даже после брака он относился к ней нежно. Она заслуживала любви и нежности Джонни.
Я люблю Томми как мужчину,но Джон симпатичен мне как человек,поскольку он добрее.
Мне жаль,что Томми разрушил их союз. Они могли стать прекрасной любящей парой. Лиззи получила бы трепетное отношение от Джона и была бы счастлива с ним.
Только вспомните ,как Джон утешал её на скачках…💔 В этом столько нежности к Лиззи. Того,что она заслужила. Но для Томми она лишь вещь.
А вообще я люблю ещё одну пару…Томми и сигарета😂 - вот с кем Томми точно не расстанется))).
2022
Which episode is the thumbnail from please?
Eu me pergunto quais as qualidades da Grace pra ficarem shippando ela com o thomas, pq ela queria viver um sonho com ele totalmente fora da realidade dele e de quem ele era. Que ele era apaixonado por ela todos sabemos, mas a mulher que realmente agregou na vida dele foi a Lizzie.
ela sempre foi o pilar dele depois da tia poly, ela nuca traiu ele em nenhum secustánçia sempre estava ao lado dele.
Até a May entregou mais do que a Grace, e ela traiu thomas uma vez e trairia de novo .
I like Lizzie at the beginning of the series at the end she wants to rule over thommy’s stuff
I think near the end she is trying to look out for her kids ( one of whom is Grace’s child that she is raising as her own ) ! Seeing as suicidal Tommy seems to not want to give AF anymore ! Even with a wife & 2 kids . He Keeps getting into dodgy deals and dealing with more & more dangerous people. She showed that when Johnny Doggs & Aberama turned up at his house and Charlie witnessed everything. She told him to get his sh!t together and not subject his children to potentially dangerous situations although Charlie had already been kidnapped as infant , she didn’t want him to witness his father possibly Getting killed in a gang war that went wrong .
Hey where did you find the logoless scenes ?
hi, i just downloaded the episodes by torrent, usually the ones that says web-dl are logoless
Lizzie is way better than Grace
2:50 what episode
i just can’t bring myself to like them since i have a feeling that it’s kinda one sided, esp since he’ll probably never love anyone the way he loves grace and still isn’t over her. i feel like he married her since she was pregnant with his child
What episode is 2:49 from?
The one thing I hated about their relationship is how Lizzie reacted after Tommy tried to kill himself- I know it was different those days but it seriously pissed me off
Can someone share what episode is the scene at 0.26 ?
S4 EP6 starting scene of the family gathering after the 'baddy' was defeated.
@@MM-wb6qm thank you so much !
Can Anyone say this episode no plz?
what scene in particular?
Song name?
lovely by billie eillish
Despues de casados la siguio utilizando como una prostituta pero con la diferencia que a hora era de su propiedad ..
Team Lizzie!
Yes! 😊
What episode is 0:57 from?
3x6 antes de alguns serem presos