I do NOT want a remake of Flower, Sun, and Rain
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Originally part of my full analysis for Flower, Sun, and Rain, I decided this aspect of the experience deserves its own video, as most of this has nothing to do with how I analyze the game. Said analysis video will be my next upload, look forward to it!
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I agree pretty much if they ps2 version ever gets patched with a translation we’ll be golden
I really hope it's "just" a remaster of the PS2 version with a revised script to accomodate the Silver Case connections, which the DS version localizer probably didn't know about.
But since they are taking a long ass time (how many years have they been teasing a FSR rerelease?) it might be a full blown remake. Specially if they target Switch, I can see it looking pretty tough and losing much of its visual charm in the process.
I JUST FINISHED PLAYING FLOWER SUN AND RAIN ON MY DS!!
Glad to see you're still uploading, Ghenry! Been a long time subscriber and it's great seeing a Suda51 focused content creator still making great videos. FSR is one of my favourite games ever so I can't wait for your video
I see and understand your points, but I think if GhM were to actually publish a FSR remake, they would make sure it's a worthy tribute to the original. I don't think they would ever change the style to be photorealistic, or even just be on par with other stuff on consoles like the Switch. As you said, it was a big thing in the original on PS2 and even the demake on DS how the graphics just didn't look on par with other games on the platforms. I really think they are gonna keep that up, instead of needlessly "modernizing" the graphics and turning FSR into something it isn't.
In fact, I think they could play with it. Add Shotarou dialogue in which he tells Mondo how bad this game looks to be on current gen consoles, and have Mondo get mad at him and defend it saying it is a stylistic choice. Or have Sho criticise the developers for making the remake in the first place, and again have Mondo instead defend the game. They are allowed to have fun with it.
But I will agree on you that they absolutely should NOT touch the gameplay. It is perfect as it is, in how imperfect it is. To change that would truly change what the original was going for in the first place. In the end, GhM have had a great track record when it comes to remakes and remasters done by them, and it's thanks to stuff like The Silver 2425 that I experienced some of Suda's best titles. I think that's enough for me to trust them for this game.
I look forward to grasshopper and suda51 reinterpretation. Quote “DS did not look even remotely this good” claiming not wanting to up scale the graphics wile upscaling the graphics. If they add filters its fundamental going change the look of the game. To many people bash updated graphics and praise old with term “visual charm”. I hope Grasshopper unlike Bluepoint get the style, look, fell, and graphics right.
FSR is one of my fav games ever. I would just like a remaster for modern consoles and PC, nothing less and nothing more
I honestly doubt they're planning to remake everything. They may not even have the budget for that. They might go with the similar approach they took with The Silver Case and upscale the textures/make it render in HD using the PS2 version as a foundation for that.
All of The Silver Case and 25th Ward's 3D backdrops were new. Even some of the art and FMVs were new. I don't think you know what you're talking about.
@@Ghenry Excuse me for not knowing then, I enjoyed your video either way.
I finished Flower, Sun and Rain earlier this year and I must say that I absolutely loved it. I think I even preferred it a little over the Silver Case. I'm super excited about your analysis, I'm sure it'll be great!
Always a pleasure to see one of your videos pop up in my subscriptions box Ghenry!
The point about how FSR's graphics are poor even compared to DS and PS2 contemporaries kind of makes me want a version where they make everything UE5 hyper realistic but keep the faces as flat textures
Can't wait for the full analysis!
you think the graphics are poor?
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Well Dead Rising is getting a remastered..............
I'll never understand people who bitch about something being made that they don't want. "I don't want this to be made" essentially means "I won't buy this" but with added "I don't want anyone to buy it". There's plenty of non-remakes that I don't want and don't give a shit if others play. MGS was always my absolute favorite game series and I never understood this bullshit "outrage" that came out with Pachinko machines being made using the IP in Japan. People acted like it was the worst thing in the world but fast forward to today and no one even remembers it. A game remake "existing" doesn't change shit about your experience with the original game, especially if you never play it yourself. Having a negative opinion about remakes is one thing, but your negative opinion pleading that a remake shouldn't exist to make you feel better is fucking nuts.
While I agree, people who do not like how IP being treated, come from not agreeing with the direction its being taking in. Example: Resident evil, camera angles and (Six intraocular) focus on action. What if MGS Pachinko machines became popular and the only thing they produce then. To clarify, that was Konomi plan saying going move away from video game market at the time.
I never said they shouldn't exist. Nearly everything you're complaining about here has nothing to do with how I described my thoughts on these subjects.
@@Ghenry 👉 12:24 Did you watch your own video before uploading it? You literally say 99% of the time you're against getting remakes you fucking goof. "It doesn't need a remake, this is how it came out, this is what it represents, it plays fine." Typical online bitching and moaning kind of guy, will say one thing blatantly, then when you get push back suddenly here comes the "What are you talking about? I didn't say that at all." Now watch you delete that part of the video or my comment once your freak out seeing how "Nearly everything I'm complaining about" is exactly how you described your thoughts
@@Ghenry 👉 12:24 Did you watch your own video before uploading it? You literally say 99% of the time you're against getting remakes you fucking goof. "It doesn't need a remake, this is how it came out, this is what it represents, it plays fine." Typical online bitching and moaning kind of guy, will say one thing blatantly, then when you get push back suddenly here comes the "What are you talking about? I didn't say that at all." Now watch you delete that part of the video or my comment once your freak out seeing how "Nearly everything I'm complaining about" is exactly how you described your thoughts
@@Ghenry 👉 12:24 Did you watch your own video before uploading it? You literally say 99% of the time you're against getting remakes moron. "It doesn't need a remake, this is how it came out, this is what it represents, it plays fine." Typical online "critic", you'll say one thing blatantly, then when you get push back suddenly here comes the "What are you talking about? I didn't say that at all." Now watch you delete that part of the video or my comment once your freak out seeing how "Nearly everything I'm complaining about" is exactly how you described your thoughts.
Yeah ngl, I'm a pretty big fan of how the DS version looks on an emulator when upscaled, I think either just that or a remaster of the PS2 version is preferable to a remake that could potentially sap some of FSR's identity.
On another note, can't wait for your video on it!
As an oldschool Suda51 Fan (who played K7 when it was released), who stopped playing Suda51 Games with NMH(and just came back for the Silver Cases), I couldnt agree more. I loved FSR on the DS and its visuals. It really enhances its surreal vibe even more. There is a short scene, in the middle of the game, where you enter a dinghy to get to an island, if I remember correctly, that short scene got an exclusive musictrack and its badass. It just elevates that mundane scene to one of my favourite scenes and I love Suda for exactly this.
So funny, I was talking about a possible FSR remake a few days ago. Interested to hear why you think otherwise.
Impressionism is key to the meta text of these artsy Suda games. If a remake can strike a balance of cinematic attraction while maintaining the impressionist intent, then it will be successful in an artsy way at least
I hope they just release remaster, just remaster and that's it. No changes in gameplay, just pure autism.
Very good video, I played the game for the first time last year and fell in love with it. A remake with faithful artstyle, that doesn't change animations nor gameplay (basically HD textures port), would be a dream for me, so I agree.
It’s fine how it is.
I agree so much!! fsr is my favorite game of all time and part of what makes it so charming is the shitty low quality graphics, if they do remaster this game i think they should def do what you suggested and have both graphics as an option just to really get the full experience.
Should have done this whole video in FSR mumble-talk.
Also what a nuanced opinion, as much as I want a remake to happen, I mostly want it so other people can enjoy it. The more I think about it (including while watching this video), I’m like ‘would I really buy it though??’.
I had so much fun playing the game on DS even if it made my brain explode too many times!
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I’m getting that ghenry feeling….
Considering the fact that Flower Sun and Rain was already translated in English, and the silver case and 25th ward were not until the remake. I think it's more likely that FSR would only be ported.
what about a port?
That would be best, a hd version of the ps2 game with an English Translation would be best
Why do people comment before watching lol it's only 14 minutes bro
@@Ghenry then don't use this type of titles
@@r4zi3lgintoro65 The title didn't mention anything about ports.
@@sibel9272 remake is a kind of port.... in the past ports to different machines could produce quite a different game than original, both visualy and gameplay wise.... no most systems are powerful enought to not be an issue
This is insane, I played this game last night and now I see a video of it. Funny how I thought I'd like a port of this game for steam, but definitely not a remake, you'll lost the weirdness and charm.
Only technical thing I'd like to see improved would be the draw distance.
Remakes are also kind of a weird one for me. I understand the idea of wanting to experience the same beloved game, but with "better visuals", but I do like the style of the classics. Like you said, these games are often a product of their time. And that's a positive in my book because it's like I'm playing through history itself.
Besides, as much as I enjoyed RE2 Remake, I don't want another over-the-shoulder remake. Seeing the Silent Hill 2 Remake trailer, it felt like a downgrade from the varied camera angles that I'd see in the PS2 original. Which is another thing I noticed.... WHY SO MANY OVER-THE-SHOULDER POVs IN BIG BUDGET GAMES??? It's limits cinematography for games trying to imitate movies.
Hey bro did you see the Dead Rising remaster
God that Sumio VA in your streams sounds so sexy! 😏
For me remakes depend on how they play if the original doesn't feel great than I rather play the remake
If they ever do a remake, I hope it is self aware of it
Give special attention to Chris in analysis!
I will try
But do you want a remaster of Dead Rising?
how can i play fsr?
Very easily.
@@Ghenry thanks
Either through the PS2 original on your legit PS2 or your Totally legit P(C)S(X)2
Or through the DS version on your legit DS or your totally legit D(e)S(mume)
@@IvanDubsK7 thanks (not sarcastic)
I was lucky enough to buy the game in Italy for 5 bucks cib. I absolutely adore the looks of the game and think the story is fantastic. this game is a perfect example why you shouldnt trust game ratings (bc they game this game a 4/10)
What’s wrong with the ratchet and clank 2016 remake? I never played the OG ps2 game, but i did play this one and thought it played fine.
Yeah, starting from the bottom would make you think that.
Besides the sluggish controls.
@@Ghenry controls felt pretty smooth to me, about what I expect from a modern platformer and what I remember from the little i’ve played of tools of destruction from Ps3
The only reason why i was waiting for a remake/remaster is because the game is like 100+ dollars
Were you playing on pc emulator?
Three times?! Are you a masochist?!
I hate how everyone wants a sequel to everything
Is it really that hard for people to fire up a DS emulator? Like come on normie ass Suda fans are just lazy
ignorance is strength?
freedom is slavery?
emulator are ? for crime? inals?
@@EggBastion you're not a crime inal?
Still not playing the DS version. Wake me when there's a translated remaster for PC or something.
Damn you fell off tremendously.
STiP0chads we keep winning.
??? I like STiP0, what are you on?
@@Ghenry Dunking on soy-infused, failed breadtubers that's what im on lmao
Nice buzzwords, try to find a personality next time you're at the dollar store.
@@Ghenry Hit a nerve there huh? maybe stick to making brainrot essay videos about shitty nip games.
Or maybe don't, 3k views a video doesn't sound like you are making it lmao.
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