aMSa turned this stock around in 0.017 seconds. Here's how. (feat.

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  • En route to aMSa's historic victory at #TBH10, he ran into a formidable opponent in the Canadian Fox main and global rank 31 Soonsay, who brought a number of brilliant adaptations to the Yoshi matchup. aMSa, however, could not be stopped at this tournament. We’ll be breaking down aMSa's reversal in Game 1 of the set which relied on a one-frame window to succeed.
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Komentáře • 161

  • @MeleeMoments
    @MeleeMoments Před rokem +313

    thanks for the s/o walt! :) loved the analysis and visuals. the section on the drill interaction with yoshi's DJ armor was especially great!

    • @turndownforwalt
      @turndownforwalt  Před rokem +20

      Appreciate you letting me use your short in this! Looking forward to a more formal collab soon!

  • @thescribe509
    @thescribe509 Před rokem +239

    TDFW found Melee Moments, I see.

    • @DroppedMyMarbles
      @DroppedMyMarbles Před rokem +34

      Love that fucking channel so much, it deserves to pop off

  • @drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569

    3:37 Editing in Yoshi doing egg lay was a pretty sick edit. Also the having that same Yoshi fading away as the actual match continues was really cool.

    • @DoomShrm
      @DoomShrm Před rokem +21

      Amazing commentary from Drake&Josh Official CZcams Channel

    • @drinkmug
      @drinkmug Před rokem +3

      thanks

  • @WhoMightThis1Be
    @WhoMightThis1Be Před rokem +32

    Blows my mind so hard that he can just react and go "this 3 frame window doesn't have enough combo potential, lets go for the 1 frame window" almost as as much as the fact he actually hit it too

    • @dddmemaybe
      @dddmemaybe Před rokem +3

      He actually has the whole micro sequence in active muscle memory there even though it only works when both players are at very low percent. It's way too fast to raw react, there is a great amount of diligence in the training regiment to be able to have that level of confidence. He very likely isn't thinking about frame windows but, rather that he already has a plan for when both players are low percent in this match-up, and is ready to pull out every possible power move for the situation, regardless of how much training he needs to pull them off.

  • @playerdreamer181
    @playerdreamer181 Před rokem +40

    the fact both Melee moments and Turndownforwalt made a in-depth analysis of this game just shows how perfect the gameplay actually was

  • @Vernias
    @Vernias Před rokem +51

    That was a phenomenal breakdown, you're easily one of the greatest Smash creators ever

  • @drunkhyperjuice
    @drunkhyperjuice Před rokem +28

    i was feeling a little weird about this video until i saw you specifically added melee moments guy. Great video

    • @joeldixton5627
      @joeldixton5627 Před rokem +10

      We love to see it creators signal boosting creators

  • @on_certainty
    @on_certainty Před rokem +6

    good Melee Moments cameo! was a little bummed when i saw the title at first because of their video, but it's good to know it's with blessing!

  • @AtomicFire41
    @AtomicFire41 Před rokem +9

    We stan aMSa, single handedly moving his main all over the tier lists

  • @Spoooob
    @Spoooob Před rokem +10

    BRO MELEE MOMENTS GOATED. What a cool Collab

    • @user-kh3jj4rx2v
      @user-kh3jj4rx2v Před rokem +3

      Just like the melee community to be the best supporter of the melee community. We love to see it

    • @Spoooob
      @Spoooob Před rokem

      @@user-kh3jj4rx2v Melee is so sick. Started watching during 2015 and haven't looked back. Game is hard to play but watching from CZcams is so awesome

    • @user-kh3jj4rx2v
      @user-kh3jj4rx2v Před rokem

      I've played it for 20 years and still suck...just so much. It's all fun though. Give it a chance. It'll make pro stuff seem even cooler imo

  • @Duffy_SSBM
    @Duffy_SSBM Před rokem +6

    This took already high quality analysis and raised it even further. The editing at 3:41 is so cool and feels like legit sports

  • @singledigitdan
    @singledigitdan Před rokem +35

    common amsa W

  • @Jayluna98
    @Jayluna98 Před rokem +32

    This was an excellent breakdown of so many things in Melee! Editing was great as well!

  • @rubadub15
    @rubadub15 Před rokem +6

    Love this format walt. Thank you for your content as always. I love in depth analysis like this

  • @DubYuhGChoppa
    @DubYuhGChoppa Před rokem +10

    Definitely a good idea to keep pushing this type of content, these videos blow up in the algorithm it seems

  • @summonerds9706
    @summonerds9706 Před rokem +1

    Your editing is so good and really adds value to your breakdowns of these moments

  • @equu497
    @equu497 Před rokem +1

    Wow, I've been out of the melee scene for quite some time, and seeing the incredible editing in this production goes to show just how far everything has come. This is really amazing stuff man, really excited to see more.

  • @compromisedssh
    @compromisedssh Před rokem +2

    Your frame data videos are always amazing. Like most Melee people, I have no idea how Yoshi works. This was great.

  • @sugarhouse8512
    @sugarhouse8512 Před rokem +1

    This is by far the most informative and important melee channel. Thank you for all your hard work.

  • @shoobo3548
    @shoobo3548 Před rokem

    very well edited! loving the video

  • @mrlucius57
    @mrlucius57 Před rokem +1

    The depth of this is fucking awesome, seeing the alternate timeline option animated right next to the clip is great

  • @jactotum
    @jactotum Před rokem +1

    Real excited for melee moments to show off their knowledge. Their one frame link video was a great thing to find in my home page

  • @ssjayy9103
    @ssjayy9103 Před rokem +1

    This production quality is so insane

  • @miasma1718
    @miasma1718 Před rokem

    great vid! i barely have an entry-level understanding of this game so these vids are super interesting

  • @canadianbaka
    @canadianbaka Před rokem +1

    unequivocally the best technical breakdowns around. Really excellent stuff

  • @Bones_
    @Bones_ Před rokem +1

    So much to say about this video. First I think it's so great hearing such in depth commentary for melee in general because you don't always get play by play commentary during matches let alone at half this level of knowledge (not knocking commentators because the game is so fast and before you can explain most things 10 other things already happened). Also Amsa's option select in the situation just shows how truly insane his level of play is. In a game this fast, he has the awareness in a very short window to both pick the optimal option when what will and won't work is already just separated by one or two frames, but then also executes it perfectly. He has more neurons firing in his brain in one second of gameplay than me watching an entire match trying to follow everything he's doing.
    And then you have that guest come in to give some extra analysis and ask that we check them out too (and I'm thinking yeah sure who is this?) and it's the amazing Melee Moments who I subbed a few weeks ago after seeing just one immaculate video of theirs. That channel deserves all the extra attention it can get and just like this one really elevates the whole community with amazingly nuanced analysis that efficiently breaks down gameplay that further enhances our enjoyment of the game as well as gives a gateway for newer players to more advanced concepts. It's all done so well that it can be understood and enjoyed by any level of player/viewer.

  • @Tundric_Schwolf
    @Tundric_Schwolf Před rokem

    What a masterfully well done video. The rest of the fgc would kill to have such detailed, well written and edited content ❤

  • @Quoise_
    @Quoise_ Před rokem +1

    The double head nod is so cute

  • @EvilApple567
    @EvilApple567 Před rokem

    Crazy effort and edits

  • @chillarttalks
    @chillarttalks Před rokem

    absolutely nasty procution GJ! looking forward to more

  • @thomasstanhouse6224
    @thomasstanhouse6224 Před rokem +1

    Great editing

  • @skii_mask_
    @skii_mask_ Před rokem +1

    hey so uhhhhhhh this is the best fucking melee analysis I've ever seen. please keep doing this, it was AWESOME.

  • @Sasoripwns
    @Sasoripwns Před rokem +1

    so proud of soonsay. Alberta is such a fun region to be part of.

  • @saintvong
    @saintvong Před rokem

    This is the level of concise editing and analysis that will help so many people see why melee is so deep. Amazing work Walt 🤩

  • @quiet_lurker9573
    @quiet_lurker9573 Před rokem

    Super stoked to see MeleeMoments getting some spotlight. Great vid TDFW!

  • @beszt95
    @beszt95 Před rokem

    I was wondering why this topic seemed so familiar, I had seen the Melee Moments video about it. Really cool to give it some context within the rest of the match though and some further breakdown, good stuff Walt!

  • @truemanmassat5919
    @truemanmassat5919 Před rokem +2

    This editing is insane

  • @CYellowan
    @CYellowan Před rokem +1

    There is just one aspect that people don't know about. The input queue. This aspect interract extremely well at times with Yoshi, thankfully. Because it is extremely specific to certain move inputs OR jump. The crucial part was that aMSa knew it would work here, thus. But it is a bit more repeatable than what it seems like due to timing the inputs well. Taking nothing away from amsa ofcourse! But once more, Yoshi is better than people think!

  • @graemebloodworth8991
    @graemebloodworth8991 Před rokem

    When I clicked, I thought it was going to be a breakdown of that last parry on Mang0 that lead to the jab reset up air string, but MAN, I loved everymoment of this video. I'm a relatively new melee fan, and I am absolutely enamored with this kind of vid. especially when its about aMSa lol.

  • @skatan4727
    @skatan4727 Před rokem

    Great analysis. aMSa is an absolute demon

  • @linkshadow2
    @linkshadow2 Před rokem

    I thought this would be a M2K vid based on the name 😂 great work!!!

  • @prizm9515
    @prizm9515 Před rokem +1

    I feel like knowing that uptilt was the best option was more impressive than hitting the one frame window.

  • @identity5481
    @identity5481 Před rokem +1

    most underrated channel on youtube

  • @KirbyGroves
    @KirbyGroves Před rokem

    incredibly well done video

  • @CloutFPS
    @CloutFPS Před rokem

    BIG COLLAB HUGE W LOVE U BOTH

  • @kidcolliermc
    @kidcolliermc Před rokem

    sick video through and through

  • @playerdreamer181
    @playerdreamer181 Před rokem

    DUDE I WAS EXPECTING SOMETHING ELSE, THEN THE "did you miss it?" GOD I GOT SO HYPED UP

  • @gregoryrothemich6844
    @gregoryrothemich6844 Před rokem

    My favorite series on this platform easily

  • @oldenoughtowatchify
    @oldenoughtowatchify Před rokem +3

    PHRASER DUB BABY MELEE MOMENTS BEST NEW CHANNEL IN SMASH

  • @ivandeutsch1209
    @ivandeutsch1209 Před rokem

    amazing vid

  • @bluediemond2089
    @bluediemond2089 Před rokem

    I loved this so much, as an ult player this is the kind of content that makes me want to pick up melee

  • @diddliewinks3486
    @diddliewinks3486 Před rokem +1

    i call this the era of premium melee content.

  • @AspectCave
    @AspectCave Před rokem

    the collab we didn't know we needed

  • @Metroyeti17
    @Metroyeti17 Před rokem +1

    Bro your editing has only continued to improve when I thought you had already reached the top two years ago. Love your content, hoping you get a juicy sponsor this year

    • @turndownforwalt
      @turndownforwalt  Před rokem +2

      And I remember your comments from those years ago too! Thank you so much for sticking around 😊

  • @fireemblemaddict128
    @fireemblemaddict128 Před rokem

    Yoshi is such an anime character. Is clearly not the most gifted character, but has some hidden jutsu that lets him turn the fight instantly

  • @timma_j
    @timma_j Před rokem +3

    This video is so well produced! I love the editing! Are you doing all this by yourself?
    Edit: just seen in description Kao is editing, still you guys are on fire, great work

    • @turndownforwalt
      @turndownforwalt  Před rokem +3

      Yep, they’ve been taking the last few Frame Data videos and they’re killing it!

  • @bobveltman
    @bobveltman Před rokem

    how well done is this video

  • @DixonYamouf
    @DixonYamouf Před rokem

    amazing vid, common banger

  • @smackssbm1256
    @smackssbm1256 Před rokem

    Thanks for crediting me. Glad that wall of text was useful to you.

  • @TheOftenElusive
    @TheOftenElusive Před rokem

    Wish I can give more likes. I'm not in competitive, but I understand this so clearly from the vids, keep up the great work 🔥

  • @InauguralGecko2
    @InauguralGecko2 Před rokem

    Incredible to see the yoshi break down of amsa's incredible run and execution. Definitely a wake up call for the melee community that the game isn't just about knowing top tier matchups, especially with a character as wonky as yoshi. You can see it in commentators watching amsa that are at a loss of words over most of the yoshi tech that amsa has mastered: melee always has more under its skin

  • @maxalaintwo3578
    @maxalaintwo3578 Před rokem

    5:46 wild editing

  • @LastxRose
    @LastxRose Před rokem

    The most technical fighting game ever made. there is no other

  • @nintendude073
    @nintendude073 Před rokem

    The moment that truly defined the big house 10 was the last 10 seconds of grand finals.
    On fd in the last stocks. Amsa paries the firefox and starts a combo and wins. If amsa has not paried it fire fox would have put the yoshi % too high and combod into fox upair and mango resets.

  • @chaoss6
    @chaoss6 Před rokem

    That was gold content

  • @lobanaoz7863
    @lobanaoz7863 Před rokem +2

    Melee moments x Tdfw lessgooooooo

  • @vick7848
    @vick7848 Před rokem

    Thats my goat :') great vid

  • @plasticbudgie
    @plasticbudgie Před rokem

    8:00 Controller smash is always my favorite tech

  • @coolguyfry293
    @coolguyfry293 Před rokem

    Great play by play for frame by frame decisions.

  • @passtheyaoi
    @passtheyaoi Před rokem

    i remember when the first melee moment video was posted to twitter
    and amsa explicitly said he didn't know uptilt was a just frame in that scenario in the replies

  • @brimmed
    @brimmed Před 8 měsíci

    At this point I've prob seen Amsa win TBH10 in like 10 different videos and each time it makes me tear up

  • @flashburn117
    @flashburn117 Před rokem

    3:30 so that's why I was asked for the .slp for this game lol.

  • @Eiji475
    @Eiji475 Před rokem

    Amsa is truly incredible. When he said he was gonna level up when he moved to NA he wasn't fucking joking.

  • @MageKirby
    @MageKirby Před rokem +2

    wait so is the uptilt 2 frame perfect inputs? One for the tech and one for the uptilt?

  • @inediblemangoes7797
    @inediblemangoes7797 Před rokem

    I love the alternate universe yoshis

  • @MATTierial
    @MATTierial Před rokem

    aMSa is so impressive!

  • @momo_11o9
    @momo_11o9 Před rokem

    i fuckin love melee man

  • @igerd4424
    @igerd4424 Před rokem

    The commentator we need

  • @CyberXD
    @CyberXD Před rokem +1

    This game is crazy lmao

  • @lakessbm
    @lakessbm Před rokem

    Kreygasm for frame data

  • @samsr2887
    @samsr2887 Před rokem

    See you soonsay

  • @heepy1
    @heepy1 Před rokem +1

    kaiji reference :0

  • @Oogs777
    @Oogs777 Před rokem

    holy shit amsa

  • @cIiffe
    @cIiffe Před rokem +2

    you’re the best melee content creator the game has ever seen. extremely grateful for you man.

  • @TheOofaloofa
    @TheOofaloofa Před 9 měsíci

    Crazy how aMSa would have to kill a god in order to make history… with Melee’s most ambiguous, middle-man amphibian.

  • @djspflytnt
    @djspflytnt Před rokem +3

    A bit of an unfortunate coincidence that you and Phraser both had the same idea, but just goes to show how special this moment was

  • @Femi9robin
    @Femi9robin Před rokem

    what is the song in the opening?

  • @huskySSBM
    @huskySSBM Před rokem

    where did you find the .slp files for the tournament? the only 2022 tournament the slippi website has the files for is shine

  • @NeonMyloXyloto
    @NeonMyloXyloto Před rokem

    Amsa has the best popoff in melee XD

  • @dunK1x
    @dunK1x Před rokem

    Amsa the goat fr

  • @donovan2518
    @donovan2518 Před rokem

    love it walt but would it not be "first ever solo yoshi main"?

  • @justanothermanontheinternet

    Definitely check out MeleeMoments if you liek this type of content. His stuff is really good. Glad walt gave him a bit of limelight.

  • @redwarrior118
    @redwarrior118 Před rokem

    Would have been cooler if the music from the original Melee Moments vid was added during his section, woulda had a "new challenger incoming" feel imo, feels empty without it. If it's about copyright then it's cool 🤙

  • @monkeymatt8797
    @monkeymatt8797 Před rokem

    Pog

  • @anhan7316
    @anhan7316 Před rokem

    What are the 4 parts of double jump armor?? Can anyone explain lol

    • @turndownforwalt
      @turndownforwalt  Před rokem +1

      The thread is linked in the description now!

    • @smackssbm1256
      @smackssbm1256 Před rokem +1

      To put it very succinctly, since Yoshi's armour 'ignores' anything below 120 kb, you can tank most moves at low-mid % and keep DJing, or counterhit. That's the first stage.
      When a move just barely breaks armour (say 125 knockback), Yoshi takes so little knockback (5 here) that for a short while he can still counterhit almost immediately.
      Past a certain point, he starts taking more kb and won't be able to counterhit, and is at risk of another move comboing. Defensive options are usually better here (sdi, fastfall, airdodge, ...).
      Anything beyond 200kb sends Yoshi into tumble, counterhitting is 100 % impossible, Yoshi is sweating.
      Those are the four stages that apply to most moves. Some set kb moves never break armour so you're stuck in stage 1. Others break armour at 0% so go straight to stage 2.
      That's the general dynamic, and why I call it 'the four stages of Yoshi armour'. It's also why knowing the % where armour reaches different thresholds is important as or vs Yoshi. % matter perhaps more so than in most matchups, even at high-level where punish game is so strong that % isn't as big a deal in a way.

    • @anhan7316
      @anhan7316 Před rokem

      Thanks!

  • @NeonMyloXyloto
    @NeonMyloXyloto Před rokem

    Hey did I play you on unranked a few days ago? Person with your tag was playing Mario

  • @IKEA_SSB
    @IKEA_SSB Před rokem

    THERES SLIPPI FILES FOR BIG HOUSE???

  • @yung6455
    @yung6455 Před rokem +1

    what's the intro song

  • @hounvs
    @hounvs Před rokem +1

    You specifically mentioned his depth of knowledge but aMSa said in Twitter that he didn't know it was 1 frame lol
    Obviously he knows a ton, as shown in the other clips. I just thought it was funny.

  • @noticeme694
    @noticeme694 Před rokem

    hey walt, what are your opinions on the bad commentary that pro melee sets have to offer?

    • @turndownforwalt
      @turndownforwalt  Před rokem +1

      I am the worst commentator because I talk about the game too much

    • @noticeme694
      @noticeme694 Před rokem

      @@turndownforwalt thats why youre a good commentator