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AP was so great coming out of college...crazy good RB.
I looked up the fumble against the Saints he was talking about and I totally get why he said that. There are literally 5 Saints players closer to the ball than him but he gets up in half a millisecond and out hustles all of them.
It was a short titled Adrian Peterson Crazy Fumble
My all time favorite player and reason im a die hard viking fan, hes absolutely right. He's the last of a pure RB
I missed AP’s first game as a Viking because I was at a wake, but my friend called me up ecstatic after he took that screen to the house in Atlanta saying how fast the guy was.
We were so spoiled watching that guy run for almost a decade. Some of the cuts he made left you speechless
We called him A.D. ( All Day) in Oklahoma
Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, LeSean McCoy, Jamaal Charles, DeMarco Murray, Ray Rice, Frank Gore, Steven Jackson, Michael Turner, 2010's had some dawgs carrying the rock
Put Arian Foster on there too my guy
@@vincentjerome1192Fred Taylor too
@@vincentjerome1192 oh yeah career cut way to short
Love that respect for HOF P Willy
Uhh Derrick Henry
He literally said “outside of Tennessee”
Nick Chubb
This guy led a whole new generation of Vikings fans I can’t explain how much I admire this guy. Love you AP.
Thought he was gonna say ball security was something he could’ve worked on more. Love AD but he would always fumble in the biggest spots
Nick Chubb 🤔🤯
They can do the HOF ELITE, where they name the top 5 of every position. I agree that they got some average players getting in now by default due to senior finalists that get pushed in due to them missing out a handful of times, the first vote, second, or third vote.
I would definitely say Isiah Pacheco is a sledgehammer.a guy that’s gonna deliver a blow to the defense & not go down easy
What if Nick Chubb comes back? Even at 85%, he's better than majority of RB's
Thurlow Wilkins reminds me of a developing Adrian Peterson-type running back. Check him out.
A.D. is still loved and respected in Oklahoma
David Montgomery is the definition of a hammer RB
stop it. david doesn't have a season with at least 250 carries. david is a good player though.
If you listen to him talk, he was saying hammer as a player that would carry 25 times a game for 140 yards. Montgomery was splitting Carries with Gibbs
Isaiah Pacheco runs a lot like Adrian Peterson
if you consider a hammer, a physical back, that runs it down your throat, is damn hard to tackle, and you can trust in any short yardage down, than that is exactly what he is. thats my definition of a hammer RB. also he had over 1000 yds, while sharing carries with one of the best rookie RBs weve seen in some time @@philipwest6317
well then I disagree with his usage of the word hammer then. if you're expected to get 140 a game, than all that means is you dont have a good RB 2. not davids fault brad holmes is a genius and crafted the best 1-2 punch in the league. what i thin of as a hammer RB, is someone who isnt necessarily the fastest or flashiest, but plays physical football, and will ram it down your throat all game long. @@davidmork8000
TJ Watt beat Myles in the following: SACKS, TAKEWAYS, TACKLES ON RUN PLAYS, SOLO TACKLES, TOTAL TACKLES, PASSES DEFENDED, DEFENSIVE TOUCHDOWNS, INT'S, QB HITS, TFLS.....but none of that counts, right?
Right! GO BROWNS 🟤🟠
Cry
Myles DESTROYS TJ in # of DOUBLE and TRIPLE TEAMS, and with a 4 man line NOT being a outside LB rushing with a 3 dl inside and a fellow OLB rushing opposite. AND HE CLEANLY JUMPED OVER THE WHOLE LINE ON A FG CLEARING DL AND OL AT THE SAME TIME AND THEN MADE THE BLOCK! TJ WHOOOOOOOO?????
Nope! Doesn't count! Sorry buddie
What does that have anything to do with this segment?
To be fair to running backs that only played 14 games a season, if you take any running back’s best 17 games IN A ROW, even played between 2 different seasons, Earl Campbell has the most yards, over 2400.
He was the original Bus and Beast mode.
They changed to 16 games in 1978 when Earl came into the league. I could find no 17 consecutive games where Earl made 2400 yards. Barry did have 2354 yards from week 3 in 1997 to week 3 in 1998.
@@alrifr5786 I think it occurred between the ‘78 and ‘79 seasons.
@@T.R.R.Jolkien it was week 6 from 1980 to week 6 1981...2408 yards...he had 4 200 yard games.
@@alrifr5786 that’s crazy! 😳
If you did that for AP I think after his 2000 yard year he had like 180 agaisnt the lions in 2013 for 17 games and that 2000 year for AP the coaches pulled him out early in a lot of games beginning. Of the year when the game outcome was in hand for fear of injury..like the niners game Huston comes to mind and one other I believe..
Isaiah Pacheco is not a hammer Running Back?
Definitely not yet. I like the player, he was my rookie year fantasy stash in the draft. But he’s only carried the ball 20 or more times in a game 4 times, regular & post season and hasn’t had a 1000y rushing season yet. He’s not in that category.
He's not wrong. I think Josh Jacobs for the Raiders could do it, but the game has gone away from that.
David Montgomery, Nick Chubb, Prime Derrick Henry, Isiah Pacheco. These guys earn every yard and also almost always take a little bit extra after running through defenders or dragging guys along
Yet no Superbowl
When ever Adrian Peterson is in the room, there's no one that's good except him.
Adrian Peterson was a great back but he had one major issue: he fumbled too much. This is from memory from a few years ago but I believe Adrian fumbled once every 70-or-so carries. I did a comparison with Marshawn Lynch - I picked him arbitrarily but he was a great back too - and I think that, before Lynch tried to make a comeback with the Raiders, Marshawn fumbled about once every 120 carries. (Marshawn fumbled a lot more with the Raiders but he really shouldn’t have come back due to age. All of Lynch’s numbers were down in Oakland.)
He definitely had his issues, but go look up all the greats and see how many fumbles they had as well
People need to think about longevity because that hammer style wears on the body.
Joe Mixon is a hammer
Joe Mixon, De Marco Murray and Adrian Peterson all played at the University of Oklahoma
Players today could come back from an ACL and win MVP but back in 2012 that was impossible! He laid the foundation for todays ACL recovery and it’s crazy more people don’t bring it up
You can hear the CTE in his voice
No mention of kyren Williams
James Conner
Runs hard
I use to pick madden teams off they rbs but now it’s no fuckin rbs fr
Pacheco is a hammer. Ask opposing linebackers.
Blake Corum had he not gotten injured is not a hammer but imo one of the most talented RBs to come out in many years.
He will be a bust, unless he goes to a team with a running QB.
AP got injured alot
No he didn’t lol
About the dumbest statement in history 😂
It used to be Ezekiel Elliott, but the Cowboys used him up like toothpaste.
thats what running backs are for use them then lose them
Was it that? Seemed like he stopped caring after he got paid, imo.
Wrong, when Elliot got his 💰💰💰💰, he didn't care to put in the effort anymore!!
AP played too long, and you can hear it in his voice. Excellent human being, but he has had far too many moments where his head ran into something hard. Great interview all the same. The Florio/C.Simms combo for talking NFL with players is very high up on the list of entertaining and cogent analysis shows on TV right now.
They are a top 5 show.
Dan Patrick is #1 in my mind, at every single sport [thus being the greatest sports journalist of my time [{48 here}], and I recently found out that I am in the majority, because they just were rated the #1 sports show in America. Go Dan, Danettes, and staff! Single greatest, allow to be honest, historian of the NFL, and to a certain degree, the NBA. He is a very solid MLB lover, but the other two Dan knows backwards and forwards. He deserves all the accolades he and his staff have garnered over the years, and those to come.
Rich Eisen right behind in the #2 spot talking in NFL.
The Pat McAfee show comes in at a very strong #3 for NFL talk. He has great co-hosts [AJ and company are spectacular], he has a great staff, and all of them love the game. Additionally, they take sides. They are true fans of the game. How can you not love that from a TV show?
Colin Cowherd is #4 when it comes to debating the #1 sport in the US. Overall Colin is #2 talking overall sports, but that is not what we are talking about here.
Florio/C.Simms are taking up the rear in #5, but given the other shows on TV/streaming, that is a solid day at the office.
Edit: AP is not even a top 7* RB of all.
#1 Barry Sanders
#2 Emmitt Smith
#3 Curtis Martin [everyone will hate this pick, but the reality is Martin did it longer and better than most, barring the other two in front of him, than anyone in history. Go look at the stats. Martin is underrated, and this is coming from an avid Silver and Black fan.]
#4 Sweetness
#5 Jim Brown
#6 Eric Dickerson
#7 is where we can make a sincere argument that Gale Sayers was better, but his career was cut short because of the lack of technology. Terrell Davis' claims were baseless as he had many recovery options at his disposal and his body just gave up. All of the aforementioned are HOF RBs. I am positive that Davis is not a HOF player despite him being in the hall. Deon's point is well put here. Neon Deon, Kurt Warner, and Terrell Davis should never be mentioned in the same sentence. Neon Deon, Joe Montana, Mahomes, Brady, Larry Allen, the OG LT, Reggie White, Tony G. etc. etc. etc. Those are HOF players. They did it at a very high level, for a very long time. These short bursts of HOF moments are nice, but then why isn't Bo Jackson in the HOF? For a very short moment he was the single greatest RB to have ever lived, but it was cut short by an injury. AP should also be considered here, but I still think that Sayers deserves the nod.
#8 That leads me to Adrian Peterson being the last of this list, but Derek Henry is hot on his heels, and may catch him. Only time will tell.
Any RB list that does not have AP in the too 5 at least, is a joke
@3792 You are either too young to know, or maybe aren't a historian of the game, but Peterson has zero business being in the top five RBs all time.
Who are you removing from my list in the top 7 that are above Peterson?
Additionally, like I said, Derek Henry is on the move.
AP is a GREAT, but this is the difference between RB and QB. The top three Simms lists for best running back all had 0 super bowls (though Jim Brown did win the pre-merger NFL championship in 1964). Now, for QBs, if you don’t win a chip you’re trash. Just look at how Marino is always left off of any top-5 (or even top-10) lists.
Good😂 Afternoon The Great All Day A Peterson
Najeeeeee
lolz
Man I'm praying that Adrian Peterson can end his career out and this doesn't make any sense I'm glad Trenton Williams is playing in the super bowl go niners but man please let Adrian Peterson finish his career out he's contributed so much to the NFL man we've been waiting for 2 years for this dude
All DAY The NFL needs you today's running back is boring
There's never been a more explosive RB:
50-YARD TOUCHDOWN RUNS
Player TD
Adrian Peterson 16
Barry Sanders 15
Chris Johnson 11
Derrick Henry 9
Fred Taylor 8
Robert Smith 8
O.J. Simpson 8
DeAngelo Williams 7
Jamaal Charles 7
Maurice Jones-Drew 7
Ahman Green 7
Saquon Barkley 6
Frank Gore 6
Tiki Barber 6
LaDainian Tomlinson 6
Warrick Dunn 6
Napoleon Kaufman 6
Terrell Davis 6
Emmitt Smith 6
Tony Dorsett 6
Michael Turner 5
Ricky Williams 5
Willis McGahee 4
Jamal Lewis 5
Clinton Portis 5
Corey Dillon 5
Bo Jackson 5
Herschel Walker 5
James Brooks 5
Neal Anderson 5
Greg Pruitt 5
Earl Campbell
How old is his son? Cuz those times in the 400 aren't very good.
Tyler Allgeier
Great list Chris
ALL DAY AP IT WAS A JOY TO WATCH YOU PLAY PEACE FROM THE 313
People in the comments saying “omg what about Derrick Henry!!???” Ap literally says outside of Tennessee, he doesn’t see any other hammer rb 😂😂😂😂 please actually listen to the video before commenting something dumb.
Isiah Pacheco!!
Simms sauced up.😂😂😂
Najee Harris is definitely a hammer running back.
lolz
Also has the agility of a hammer. Guy runs like he’s got a pair of jeans on
He stopped being a hammer after his 2000 yards season. He stopped trying to run people over and started trying to juke everyone which led to way more zero and negative yard carries for the remainder of his career. I still have to listen to my 63yo dad bring it up probably on a weekly basis lol.
That tends to happen as you get older with no offensive line. Lol. Idk about the negative yardage from juking either. His QB's progressively got worse, and he was dodging defensive players in the backfield. He led the league in rushing at 30 years old with Bridgewater throwing for only 14 TD's on the season. Lol
Go watch his hilights from 2015 tell me he wasn’t trucking people or still at peak performance
09 Vikings team was suppose to win the Super Bowl smh
Chubb/Hunt
HOLY GLAZE
Isiah Pacheco
Derrick Henry is a hammer RB, So is CMC he's 230 pounder but he runs very hard for his size between and out the tackles
So he’s never seen, Derrick Henry at all???🤔
chubb,henry,najee
naj...lolz
Pacheco...
Imo, the only way to get a super great game from EA sports is if 2k start making football games again
JT is the only guy in the league that is like AP
3 rockets…how about 5 at least lol
not uncluding stats but putting him above ricky williams is crazy! his grandfather sold me my first 4 gs of corn in the grove tho
Minnesota Petersons!!
I’m commenting way too much on this video, but I just want to say that the 09 Vikings are a top 10 team of the past two decades. Go back and look at that roster. Absolutely insane.
Over a 20-year span, a top-10 team should go to the Super Bowl at least once don't you think? The Vikings are good in the regular season, including that 2009 team that won one playoff game. Adrian Peterson fumbled away the Vikings' chance to lose a fifth Super Bowl.
Great player! Terrible money manager! Completely BROKE! 🤑
He literally has one of the biggest gyms in Houston . Can play almost every sport there
If I were a coach and I could have any back in history in his prime I’d go with Earl Campbell. He had speed and unbelievable power. Jim Brown is a bit overrated because if you put Brown, in his prime, up against modern defenses his YPC would drop substantially. Obviously for his era though Jim Brown dominated.
Wait now Jim Brown , Barry Sanders….
So what about WALTER PAYTON..
Earl Campbell Jesus you guys say stupid stuff sometimes
He not a genius
AP was a good RB, but I can't get past the child abuse. Sorry
Oh stop it karen. Get past it the same way you got past the ben rothlisburger allegations
All the interviews I have seen here are just fan boy mutual admiration crap. They are talking over each other because of the infatuation
Lol they let too many people in the HOF so there has to be a HOF of the HOF
adrain peterson was really good. but i definitely wouldn't put him top 5 all time. jim brown, walter peyton, oj simpson, marcus allen, gayle sayers, barry sanders, etc. too many greats above him.
I would put him above Gayle. He didn't play long enough. Walter, Jim Brown and OJ or Dickerson. LaDainan maybe, too.
Ok Simpson? LOL ok boomer
@@j2398 i guess im 70 years old, and therefore my opinion is invalid? cool. so in case you are interested in knowing or learning something, the term boomer is short for baby boomer. meaning people born just after ww2. this is like 1945-1955. this terms gets thrown around, and as most people arent very intelligent or have basic knowledge of anything, they dont know what they are talking about. in terms of football, yeah oj simpson is one of the greatest rb to ever play. and actually im a millennial. i just am educated, and know the game of football.
@@j2398dude, how old are you? Do you not know how good OJ Simpson was?
Add Faulk and LT take out sayers
I used to love this show, Mike Florio needs to quit acting like he has an S on his chest. The criticism he hands just holds no weight. Especially when he's saying stuff like "he should've made that pass" or "he missed the hole". My favorite is when he says someone can't do a job that he could never do some he drags those through the mud who can play it, but not to his standard which once again holds no weight. Super intelligent, knowledgeable semi nice guy. Your job is to give analysis not critique grown ass men who would off the record would probably make you piss your pants quivering in your boots because you like pretend/act tough with a microphone on a secure campus with security. NO SPINE
AP got injured alot
What a dumb comment literally got hurt twice in a decade getting the rock 25 times per game.
@@johanarreola9215 you don't know ball check his stats
@@holahovito11 that's why your comment is full of likes 🤣