Toyota hybrid maintenance cost is insane! Hybrid VS gas!
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- When deciding to buy a Toyota hybrid vs gas. You need to consider everything including and not limited to the over all maintenance cost. It is important to realize that over the course of ownership you will spend less money replacing parts due to wear and tear compared to a gas model toyota.
This really plays a huge factors when trying to decide if a hybrid is a smart choice for you. The savings is not just in the fuel. I explain why in this video.
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I never replaced the brake pads on my 2006 Prius till 210k miles, its still on the original hybrid battery, the auxiliary battery was replaced once.
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Just bought my first hybrid xle rav 4 love it get 41 miles per gallon
My Experience is similar. I have a 2008 Prius and it has 330, 000 miles. The brakes have only been changed once, hybrid battery is still original, and the 12v battery lasted for 12 years and 300,000 miles. No gas car I have owned even comes close to that.
@@ToyotaWorld Hi Marcello, 👋wish Toyota would redesign the dash and interior of Toyota Prus . An analoge instrument and warning lights infron of the driver not in the middle of the dash . Also more head room in back seat please 🙏 So many car makers feel only short people 5 -4" or shorter go in the backseat .
Yeah but how much will it cost to replace the hybrid battery once it does die?
I never had a hybrid but considering a hybrid rav4 in 2 years. I was concerned about the hybrid battery replacement cost and other hybrid parts if they go bad. You have to pay at least 2.5k extra on the front end for a hybrid and then at least 2k for battery replacement on the back end. I don't even drive that much to make that worth it.
In 10 years of owning a Prius, I had not a single maintenance issue. Only ordinary maintenance like oil changes, new tires. It was by far the most reliable vehicle I ever owned.
Thanks for your comment sir
Better watch out. Gen 3 priuses are infamous for blowing their head gasket around 10 year mark. My 2013 blew head gasket and had bent piston rod. Dealer asked $4K to repair, but I was able to do DIY repair for $100 in parts.
I have had a very similar experience on a 9yr old Nissan Versa (I did have to replace rthe battery at 6yrs, but I live in Floriduh, and the heat is hard on battery life).
I've owned 3 Prius's the latest being a 2023 and two Highlander Hybrids (current was is a 2019) Tires and routine maintenance just like you. I've never had a single issue with any of them. Now, don't ask me about the new 2009 Audi A4 I had for three years. Only car I've ever owned that had to be towed twice in three years of ownership..
Good advice on buying no only based on purchase price but on total cost of ownership, which involves purchase price + operating cost (fuel & maintenance).👌I have to say that Toyota was very smart on testing its hybrid system first on the Prius & made it bullet-proof before rolling it out to more models.💯👍
Camry Hybrid, brakes at 115k, windshield wipers at 100k, Tires 65k. Best car I ever had.
Totally agree...have a 2013 hybrid...best car I've ever owned. Fuel efficiency is incredible and I totally agree about "heat"...because of two engines driving it just stays cool always. Also don't drive hybrids like maniacs! It isn't a race car...it's efficient totally. Love Toyota. Thanks for vid.
Thanks Steve. Thanks for watching
To me, Toyota’s faith in its hybrids is reflected in the longer warranties. Toyota is stingy with their warranties and wouldn’t have extended it for hybrids if they didn’t think the hybrid was even more reliable than their ICE vehicles.
You don’t see how many good wills toyota puts out. I love toyota
@@ToyotaWorld then why doesn't Toyota put its money where it's mouth is and just extend its warranty? Why keep customers guessing? Toyota's warranty is no better than those of GM or Chrysler, etc. I bought my last car, a KIA, because of its phenomenal warranty (among other things).
@@B9M3 Crickets for a reply. Smh
@@Noirfury Cause you asked a REAL stupid question. I mean, seriously?! Comparing Toyota to a POS car company like Crystler that makes POS "luxury" cars?!
Jesus dude, you're making me and @Toyota World LOSE brain cells by talking to you.
A hybrid has a ICE🙄
Another consideration; getting the car moving is a huge portion of engine wear. The battery does this on a hybrid. The electric motor also adds boost when more power is needed. This is why hybrids will go a half of a million miles with no major engine wear.
The battery is moving the car, not electric motor? !! And of course the battery and the electric motor experience NO wear and tear because they are magical and are made of pixie dust, right?
@@dancheb its actually better than pixie dust, electrons do the job through magnetic fields so yes there is wear and tear but not comparable to the wear and tear of burning gas to get kinetic energy from controlled explosions, 80% of energy in a gas car turns to heat (waste), compare that to an electric motor where it is only 5% that is turn into waste.
#1 Maintenance that gets missed - keep the battery fan filter clean. ANYONE can do this themselves, very quick and easy to do.
Quick and easy? You must not have a RAV4 Hybrid. You have to remove the back seat (the part you sit on), the seat tilt lever, and two plastic trim pieces on each side just to get at the filter. Why they didn't design a simple grid cover attached by clips or screws I'll never know. Considering how important it is to keep those filters clean - especially if you have pets that ride in the car - it seems they could have given some thought to making it something owners wouldn't dread doing themselves.
@@ejej6934 The newer models are quick and easy
@@ejej6934
I don’t know what generation rav4 you drive but in 2019-2022 battery air filter can be cleaned or replaced in less than 10 min.
I drive about 30,000 miles a year, and my gas rav 4 was getting 29mpg.
With today's prices, if I had a 50mpg camry hybrid instead I would have saved about $900 in gas last year.
I purchased a 2020 RAV4 February of 2020, I would have to say I am extremely happy with my purchase, I included the tire package that replace tires for the life of the car loan. What I will say is we spend a lot of money on things everyday but depending on your needs you would need to perform an assessment to determine whether or not if the purchase is worth it for you. Our needs will always remain various when it comes down to viewing things as an individual consumer but life is shorter than we all think so make your selections without regret!
Thanks for this video. I use my 2013 ford fusion hybrid for Uber and Lyft, about 60k miles a year and it's been flawless. 160k miles now and the maintenance is nothing!! I barely spend on gas either and drive probably 1200-1500 miles a week. Maybe $100 in gas for that. Hybrids are awesome!
My 15 Fusion Hybrid has also been flawless so far, but she only has 86K. Only issue I've come across was when I hit a massive pothole the driver's side front tire started clicking at low speeds, (Not sure if it's the wheel bearing or CV shaft, leaning to wheel bearing) but aside from low speed clicking it hasn't caused any issues. My Uber passengers love it. I've had several people shocked when I tell them it's a Ford because they thought it's a luxury sedan. I've had a 08 Prius, and so far I'm much more satisfied with my Fusion Hybrid. I've seen the 12-20 FFH with 300K before. Reliable, practical, relatively fun to drive, and beautiful car.
@@OhPhuckYou completely agree with everything you've said. Thanks for commenting! That's awesome you're an Uber driver as well. I think the ffh is a much better value than a Prius. For maybe 8mpgs less I get a much sportier ride that's decently fun, it's roomier, and it looks so nice! I used to use a 2016 Lincoln mkz 3.7 (300 horsepower) for Uber and a 2012 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 (429 horsepower with all the bells and whistles) and I love my fusion more than BOTH of those. The Lincoln was a sexy car though, not gonna lie 😂 I love ford.
My car now has 171k miles and no lights and no issues. Still get 42mpgs combined and that's a lot of highway driving at 75-80mph here in Texas.
@@OhPhuckYou should def get that looked at 😩 pot holes suck!
@@guidedbygreen1480 I'm going to tare into it when it gets worse. Right now it's not affecting anything.
@@OhPhuckYou just saying... Could use an alignment at the very least. To each his own
Just brought a new 2023 Rav 4 Hybrid. I LOVE this thing. I am losing interest in my Mustang convertible. Wishing I traded it in. Truly gets 40 MPG.
My original front brake pads lasted over 125,000 American miles on my gasoline (only) Rav4 and the rear brakes are still original at well over 132,000 miles. Toyotas are the best!
Thank You Sir! This is all facts. I am an owner of 16 Camry Hybrid XLE. This car has had the lowest cost of ownership of any vehicle I have owned. I have about 81k miles so I am not sure what that equates to in kilometers. If not for this chip shortage issue, I would be in new 21 or 22 Camry Hybrid XSE
Cool man. Thanks
Wait until scotty See's this!
He's awesome and I know he is a big fan of Toyotas he bought a 2020 Corolla hybrid. Love it when he says """nice"""" throws up the owl picture or the Laughing Horse jackass haha
Are you guys talking about Scotty Kilmer?? Lol he is great
@@ToyotaWorld yes sir I know I am. And you're right he is great. Little sarcastic humor... very knowledgeable I wish I had been listening to him before I bought my Ford Escape Dear God.
I trust Scotty
Scotty is the reason I bought my 1st ever Toyota vehicle...which is the 21 tacoma 4 cylinder
I highly agree. I just bought myself a 2021 Toyota Corolla Hybrid LE. Amazing car and I save a lot of gas. I have heard of this one guy who had a 2nd gen Prius with 300,000 miles (483,000 km) and only paid $1,000 USD in overall maintenance. I imagine saving so much with this vehicle as well. Going back, I wish I looked more into the Prius Prime, but I'm very happy with a Corolla Hybrid.
Great choice
Is your model mild hybrid, full hybrid, or plug in?
@@MaximC Full hybrid. It's like any other Prius, but in a Corolla body.
@@TheLongLouis
Thank you.
Heyy we're car twins. Love my hybrid LE. Im gonna have seats replaced with leather though for a more luxury feel because sadly the 2021 hybrid le didn't have the option
I am a loyal Prius owner since 2006, and I can say that the hybrids are rock solid. The brake longevity is true - my 2006 Prius lasted me 10 years of high mileage, I racked up a total of 392K KM over that time and had the original rotors and drums in the rear, I believe I only changed the front brake pads once but they rear drums and shoes were original. Key of course is keeping them maintained and clean, and of course not driving like a maniac. ;-). I now have a 2014 Plug In with 187K KM and has also been solid, though the brakes on the Gen 3 are as long lasting as the Gen 2 were (already replaced the rotors and pads all around).
My only dispute is the battery - the hybrid battery failure is not as uncommon as suggested here - it is rare but it does happen - however generally at very high mileage; very unlikely to happen before 200-300K. I was one of the unlucky ones who had a failure on my 2006, however the car was 7 years old and had 273K KM, so the car had earned it’s keep by then. Toyota quoted me $3500 for a brand new battery (including labour), which is a difficult call for a vehicle of that age, even though the car was in excellent condition otherwise. I ended up finding a private shop who would rebuild my existing battery for me instead for $1200, which I did, and the car lasted me another 3 years and 120K KM before the engine failed of all things and basically needed a new engine… at that time (2016) I found a 2014 Plug In available on AutoTrader so I grabbed that one instead and sold off my 2006 (to my private mechanic who rebuilt my battery), and the plug-in has been rock solid. (I know he dropped a new engine in the car and sold it, and to my knowledge it is still on the road..)
Of course, I realize my 2006 car was a statistical anomaly as many Toyota hybrids last this long or longer without a battery issue, and I am sure the newer ones are even more durable given the longer battery warranty now. Looking at it from a high level, keep in mind that even if the battery fails at a crazy high mileage like that, the car has already saved you far more than that in fuel and maintenance anyway, so there is really no loss here.
Toyota hybrids really are the best vehicles on the road. Cheers. :)
We use miles so 100 to 150k miles the insane cost of fixing them are worth more than the car
Thanks for this post. I got a 2015 Camry Hybrid new off the lot. Had to replace the battery at 156,000 however, I keep my car on for 10hrs at a time sometimes so I know for a fact that it played a factor in the battery life, otherwise, I am convinced that it would have lasted 200k plus. Still have my original brakes with 80% life still on it! The only thing that I had to replace aside from the battery were my shocks, car got a bit bouncy and had my friend replace them with Toyota parts for $400 including labor.
How’s the gas prices on a Prius
@@Milan-rl2gs Prius is and always has been one of the most fuel efficient vehicles on the road. In HV driving without plugging in, I typically get between 4.7-5.0 L/100km, or roughly 47-50MPG US. Depending how much plugging in and short trips I do, my blended tanks often end up around 3.5-4.0 L/100km (~58-67 MPG).
In Canada, electricity during off-peak is roughly 1/4 the cost of gas these days (based on Prius efficiency; approx $0.015 vs $0.06 per KM), so to the more EV driving I do, the more I save (vs gas). 🙂
@@kevinsargent6282 Thanks for the input
What’s your thoughts on a Toyota Corolla vs Toyota Prius?
Great video. I bought a late 2012 Auris Hybrid last year. It's a fantastic car. I get an average of about 77 to 80 mpg on slower roads and about 67 to 70 mpg on the motorway going at speeds of 60 to 64 mph. I won't ever be going back to a normal gas car for sure because of the smoothness fuel savings, no gears, and quietness.
Wait until that hybrid garbage gets 150k miles. 🤣🤣
Is that mpg or kpg?
@@dawhike Hi, it's mpg.
I love my 2013 Camry hybrid xle 175000 miles and still running like a champ
Thank you for posting. I was looking at a new Camry and was concerned about the longevity of the hybrid. I have a regular 4 cylinder 2010 Camry and is still running great. This makes me feel better transitioning to the hybrid models when the time comes.
Agree 100%! I have a 2007 Toyota Prius that now has 170,000 miles that's still going strong! Changed tires at 94,000 miles (Costco tire technician told that I could easily use those tires for another couple of thousand miles.) Didn't change the brakes until after 130,000 miles. Had to replace battery around 157,000 miles- Cost $1,900 for remanufactured battery with 5 year warranty. Original AC chills the car as if it's winter. Overall outstanding quality.
I concur with so many of the comments below: my 2006 Prius has done 265,000km & is still on original brake pads & hybrid battery; I've never paid LESS for any car i.t.o. total cost of ownership - & love how it drives.. best car I ever owned by far!
If we were talking about some other manufacturer, then saying hybrids have lower maintenance costs might be believable. But we know that non-hybrid Toyotas go over 200,000 miles with low maintenance costs. So even if Toyota hybrids have lower maintenance costs than non-hybrids, it will be marginal. Some maintenance tasks on hybrids are too dangerous to do yourself and must be done by professionals. So if you do you own maintenance, then the maintenance costs of hybrids are significantly higher than non-hybrids.
I think if you want a Toyota hybrid then you should get a Prius which was designed from the ground up to be a hybrid that lasts a long time and gets great mpg. Toyota's other hybrids are just their gas models that have been hybridized so they only get slightly better mpg then the non-hybrid counterpart but cost more. What scares me most is what Mr. Toyota World said in this video - that the dealers will be trying hard to convince us to buy hybrids because of government mandates, not because of their attributes.
My wife and mother in law have 2021 rav4's. The gas only averages 31 to 33 mpg. The hybrid averages 44 to 47 mpg. To me, that's a little more than slightly better. The hybrid is also WAY QUICKER (and not just off the line).
That’s because a regular mechanic is not qualified to work on hybrid. Hybrids are like electric cars but can be more complex than electric car since it also has an internal combustion engine.
One thing for hybrids is you MUST clean the filter in the fan to keep the battery cool.
How do you do that
Great video very informative-my wife has a CHR 2.0 litre excel - just had a service at main dealership and added another 12 months warranty
Will continue with this up to 10 years or 100000 miles also 10 years warranty on hybrid battery pack -car has been very reliable and economical
Service costs are cheap too .🚗🇬🇧
Thank you for this video. I’ve never bought a hybrid before until a few weeks ago. I’ve just bought a 2022 Sienna Limited. So far I love it but like other people, I was concerned on how long the battery will last, etc, especially living in cold climate. Your video makes me feel better. Thank you.
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They'll last about 10-15 years if properly cared for. This is a long time. With the money you save on gas and maintenance, put some away for an eventual replacement and you'll be golden.
Replace battery fan filters regularly. Use the AC if the weather is hot to protect the battery. Don't spill any liquids on the battery obviously. And don't use your Sienna jumpstart other vehicles to protect your auxiliary battery. It'll last you a long time.
@@BungieStudios Thank you for taking your time to reply with some great advice. 😃 I love my hybrid more every day.
Jimmy De Boston lucky you-- have been waiting 2 months for a 2022 Blueprint XLE -- had none middle of February-- 1st of March 11 invoices came in-- 4 sold before sales even got to me-- only Blueprint was in an LE all 11 sold before Siennas even got shipped to the Lot! Only 1 came in April & had been reserved sales person from showroom-- at this point hoping May better month & will consider a different color if have to-- planning on giving HS graduating grandson my 2010 Ford Fusion hybrid going on 230,000 miles-- no major issues-- just regular maintenance & upkeep-- I may he waiting months for a Sienna, which my needs have changed back to larger vehicle for cargo space for myself & grands school & soccer training commutes from our rural area-- 400- 500 miles weekly😲sometimes more
@@thereserivera7691 o no. Sorry to hear about your experience. Yah I really lucked out. When I bought my car, it was the only one and they wanted to charge $5,000 above MSRP. I threatened to walk out and literally standing at the exit door when the manager came out and said they would remove the $5,000 fees. I bought it immediately. Wait if your able to, it’s worth it, the car is incredible. You drove your hybrid to over 200,000 miles? That’s amazing. I love it.
I bought a 2001 Camry 4cylinder for $3000. Been driving for 3 yrs now and maintenance only costed me $45 (two thermostats and one brake light switch).
You haven't changed your engine oil for 3 years?
@@PapaPapaD I was referring to maintenance that isn't considered routine. The defective parts I mentioned normally lasts for several years. But it needed attention sooner than expected.
Very helpful, appreciate that you kept the content in simple terms (not too technical) and the focus was maintenance effort and costs and how that affects our everyday lives (what we all really care about), great video
Thank you for sharing
enjoyd the vid!!!!! i have the 21 venza & sooo glad 4 hybrid!!!!! & now luvin r even more after ur video!!! i hope my beautiful suv lasts 4 many yrs!!!! 💜😉
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Lol
I have over 250,000 km on my non-hybrid Corolla and it has original brakes all around so it does depends the type of driving and how well pistons and brake cylinders are maintained. Not too sure where you got the idea of tires lasting longer on a hybrid. If anything, it'll wear faster because of the extra weight in the vehicle. Whether the braking happens from actual brakes, engine, or hybrid regenerative system, the tires do not really know the difference. Just keep them rotated, balanced, and maintain air pressure.
I have a little bit of an unusual need so I'm not too sure if hybrid will work too well. I'll snow bird into a foreign country for months at a time. This means the car will sit for months at a time. For the normal car battery, I just disconnect it and when I return I just recharge it with a battery charger and go fill up the gas. Given that usage, not too sure if I want to risk large hybrid battery pack being sit around for months at a time, not being able to disconnect it to reduce any discharge, not being able to trickle charge it back when I return.... I bet your solution is get a plug-in hybrid but that'll make the battery pack even large thus my risk surface area is bigger. I think it is simpler to get a non-hybrid in this case. I suppose I'll keep this car for as long as I can so maybe I won't have a choice to get a non-hybrid by the time the wheels fall off on this car. Nearly everything has been fixed and maintained myself.
Tires used on hybrids are low rolling resistance/high efficiency. Their longevity could be explained by the harder compounds used in their construction.
Also, consider the type of person who buys a hybrid. Probably not doing too many burnouts, or racing from stoplights.
Add to this that (at least in Prius) the car _teaches_ you to drive gently by giving you a score based on your mpg, and it's easy to understand why certain components might last longer than expected.
Tire life is about the same for most cars here in snow country. With winter tires taking the wear a third of the year our tires always go out of date (six years) before they wear out. Most of our tires have more than a third of the usable tread left when we have to replace them.
I don't know how long you go away for but you can look into the Toyota hybrid models that are now using a lithium ion battery pack. I don't know the exact numbers but I do know that they don't discharge anything like the old nickel metal hydride batteries did and I'm pretty sure they are safe for more than 6 months of not being used.
@@lumntoob999 I'm hearing from Tesla owners that their batteries do discharge a fair amount after 2 months. Of course, it'll still run but it isn't ideal to deep discharge the battery for its longevity. But that's when the car is still relatively new and as time progresses, it may be necessary to get it recharged more often. Toyota hybrids might do bit better because the discharge rate will vary depending on the electronics it is attached to. I understand the discharge rate is much better on Lithium than Nickel Metal Hydride. On the other hand, metal hydride is favored for colder climate (such the reason Toyota used it on Prius e-AWD models but not for the FWD models).
I will sum it up for you. This guy is a fraud. I design cars for a living.
My 2010 Prius had a lifetime fuel mileage average of 47 MPG for 118,000 miles. The brakes had almost no wear at 100,000 miles. Other than oil changes, the only money I spend on maintenance was for tires, wiper blades, and a couple of light bulbs. I didn't drive it easy either. We made several major (4,000 miles or more) driving trips and did a LOT of cruising at or above 80 MPH. (That speed IS legal in much of the western US.) With the touring package, that Prius was the best road car I have driven since the sixties.
I will admit, I clicked on this video because the title had me worried. I'm glad it just helped solidify my decision in wanting to get a 2022 Toyota Corolla Hybrid. I've been watching so many reviews of this car and other hybrids, but I just keep coming back to the Corolla.
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I wish dealerships would look at their charges. I'm a DIYer so rarely used them but called my dealership just to get the price for them to do a transmission service (drain and fill) on our 2017 Prius. $320! WHAT? That job is almost as easy as an oil change...just drain and fill. Probably the hardest part of that job is removing the plastic covers down there!
12-V battery on our Infiniti went out . . . cost us about 3 hours and $80. Generation 2 Prius 12-V battery went out (all of a sudden), and it took one week to get done, and about $700 (including $75 tow charge, which was a circus all by itself). This is only one side of the story. If a Prius hybrid battery, generator, or transmission goes, it can easily cost as much as the vehicle is worth.
Awesome, that's great to know. My one concern about hybrids in general was that a battery replacement would basically cancel out any savings from fuel economy, but sounds like at least for Toyotas, you may not have to replace it in the life of the vehicle or it will be under warranty. And I didn't even know about the lesser wear and tear for other components as well.
@Ryan, I've done some checking and I've run across firms in large cities that come out to your house and do a replacement battery. Usually they " say " that they are reconditioned, but the price is around 1200 dollars. I hesitate to think how much at Toyota. Mine is 9 years old and still percolates as new.
@@thinkertoo2995 I have the auris hybrid here in the uk , I had to replace the battery pack at 129,000 miles and it’s a 2015 , I got it all fitted with a new Toyota battery pack for £1868.00
We had a 2012 Camry Hybrid, the brakes where replaced at 200,000 km and it had been driven by teens as well as adults, we now have a 2021 Rave 4 Hybrid and we love it , 4.8/litres per 100 km last fall, it is a fantastic vehicle
Yes!!
Excellent information I wouldnt have considered nor had heard anywhere else. Thank you.
I leased a Toyota Hybrid LE for 3 years & drove it every single day. Driving both in the city & on the highway, the fuel economy was phenomenal & I never had any super big issues internally with the car. Any wear & tear from it came from my doing. Tires, windshield, brakes, minor scratches & dents. One of the USB ports did stop working, but again I was using it frequently. It has been one of the best cars I've ever driven & I can see why it's so sought after now
Another great video! I agree 100%. Our old 2010 Honda Insight hybrid has over 119,000 miles on it and only 1/3rd of the brake pads worn down. The engine runs great still but our A/C has been acting up. That's why we got the new Rav4 hybrid. Finally, a perfect sized SUV. Great cargo capacity, ground clearance & excellent gas mileage!!! We were actually considering the Lexus UX 250H but, ultimately decided on the Rav4.
UX is great! But barely gives you the space a Venza gives you.. good call on rav4.
ac doesn't work, so you buy a whole new car?
@@dylanlam6430 the Honda Insight gave us almost 11 years of reliable service. The lack of air conditioning in Hawaii was a factor. The other factors were the lack of modern safety features and cargo space. It was time to move on.
@@jerhawaii Was there no way to fix it? I also now see the other factors that make total sense, wasn't clear to me before.
@@dylanlam6430 repair cost in Hawaii are higher than most places. With the pandemic and chip shortage, we thought getting a new car sooner than later was the safer option. Good thing we placed the order in late January. Took delivery first week of April. By May the lots were empty. The dealer went from between 50-100 RAV4's to only inbound orders from that point.
Probably the uniquely longest parts would be disk brake pads and rotors because of the energy recovering regenerative braking system!
The hybrid transaxle lasts even longer. Nothing to wear as long as fluid changes are done on schedule.
Why the fixation with the brakes? Brakes on an ICE car don't have to be replaced very often, either, and when they do, they are cheap and quickly replaced anywhere. Many people can do their own brakes.
The Title is misleading; "Hybrid maintenance is insane" ??? So, we go for gas models???
Just bought the 2022 Avalon Hybrid XSE CELESTIAL SILVER METALLIC Nightshade and love it!
Do not agree that tires of hybrid vehicles wear out slower! Hybrids are heavier, so while I agree the overall wear and tear are less than conventional cars, but not on tires..
True optimal tire performance is key to maintaining efficiency.
Last year, at 100k miles, my 2012 Camry Hybrid failed to start. It turns out, the OEM 12-volt battery needed replacement. This is the first time we have had to put extra money into our Toyota Hybrid.
Usually that 12v battery would need to be replaced every 5 years. I’m surprised in your case it lasted for 10 years
@@Hdhfhhdh, When I wrote this, I forgot to mention the rear-wheel speed sensors and front brake rotors we replaced on this 2012 Camry Hybrid at 72k miles.
I also own a 2017 Kia Soul+, with its OEM battery turning 8 years old in December.
Camry hybrid 2012 and its awesome still
Praised Be God
If there is no chip shortage, I definitely already behind the Toyota hybrid wheel.
I do not own a Toyota Hybrid, I own a Hyundai and it is fantastic, it accelerates nicely, has great breaking which is good where I live, and drives very smoothly. I could not be happier! Thanks for the review, Hybrid cars really do save you money on maintenance!
We have in Europe/ The Netherlands service intervals of every 15,000 km’s for both the Gas and the Hybrids. Diesels have intervals of 20,000 to 30,000 km’s. The price gab between Gas and Hybrid is arround the €100-€200, So thats why the Hybrid sales in our country are bigger than the traditional Gas models. Also because of their better milage than a regular petrol car
Diesel fuel is lubricant too, and the oil capacity in diesel engine is usually 6-7L vs 4.2 L in gasoline. However, engine oil is only about $50.
@@rondhole that is maybe true in your country. I live in the Netherlands. We usually don’t drive big V6-V8’s. Also the taxes of these big blocks are insane high! A truck will cost in the NL 2,5 times the price than in the USA or Canada. We also have a different tax system. The more fuel efficient and emission friendly the car is, the less tax you pay. Its a terrible system. Thats why the bigger models don’t work in west Europe
@@MrTKo90 It is actually a good system. Therefore, people will drive fuel-efficient cars. Hybrid is greener than disposable BEV for companies as big as Toyota or VW. Typical hybrid only have 1.3kWh vs BEV 40kWh. Toyota is greener by manufacturing 35 hybrid instead of 34 pure gasoline and 1 BEV. Toyota europe oil change interval is 15000 km/1 year but there is a footnote about (Tow, short trip, extremely cold weather or city traffic), the interval becomes 7500km/6 months. Engine oil consumption is the main problem that Toyota owners will face if they do extended oil change interval but has severe driving habit. Typically it starts at around 100k miles or 160 000 Km. It could be normal for European but not for most Toyota owners in USA. My old 2004 Sienna still burn no oil between 8000 km oil change interval at 340k Km/210k miles.
@@rondhole the engine oil consumption is a new one to me. Never had problems with extra oil consumption. I even asked the dealer about this but this is not a common know problem to them. I owned a lot of Toyota’s and made quiet some miles on them, even as a driving school with manual transmissions! Never had excessive oil consumption.
@@MrTKo90 Some Toyota engines that burn oil: Corolla 1.8L 200-2003, Camry and RAV4 2.4L 2007-2009, Prius 2010-2012 (head gasket issues too). Although it usually starts at around 200 000Km or 120k miles. I doubt many European have 200 000 Km in less than 10 years.
Proud owner of a 2021 Prius. 53 mpg and a nice ride. I'm 6'4" and plenty of head and leg room. I have never spent less on maintenance.😀
I concur!
Am a Toyota die-hard since 1975. Bought mine car brand new at San Rafael, CA back in July 2016, have put 198,000 miles on it...not one single problem ever. Discovered a hidden feature that keeps fuel consumption to max just 3 months ago. Drives like a dream from day one. If I could find another factory new 2016 like it I would buy it again. Like I always say "If I could put a ring on this Camry I would. Toyota Camry Hybrid SE
What was the "hidden feature"?
On the other hand, the 12 volts battery is much more expensive than to replace on the non hybrid car !
Correct. Like twice as expensive.
My '19 rav 4 hybrid with 67,000kms just came back from over $6000 in repairs after the Hybrid cable failed and then the rear brakes seized, super reliable......
Very useful video justifying decision to go hybrid route with Toyota/Lexus
I am sold. I am on the hybrid train. 👍👍😁
The best kept secret is used Toyota Avalon Hybrid. Luxury + Efficiency + Value + Reliability! I know they are now discontinued (not because of problems, but product placement), but pick one up and you will have it forever!
I owned a Toyota Camry Hybrid from August 2006 until January 2020 currently saving up for another Toyota Hybrid - learned to service your Hybrid batteries cooling fan filter every six months as do with oil changes 3,000 miles or 6 months
I just bought a 2022 Camry Night Shade Edition AWD gas 4 cyl. I was pondering for a short time the hybrid, but decided to go all gas for the simple reason that I haven't seen enough data on costs associated with a hybrid to justify it. Maybe I'm off base I don't know. Some people love them, which is fine.
120K brake replacement for hybrid - I own a 2017 Holden Astra sedan (similar to Chevy Cruze for Australia), I went 130K on Original pads before brake replacement was required for non-hybrid vehicle. Even then, the back and parking shoes still had plenty of meat left on them. Maybe it is just how you drive a car, rather than racing to a Red Light like most drivers do.
I test drove a Toyota Avalon Hybrid and it is the only car I can fit properly in due to the size of the interior. The only problem I now have is the price and if they can install a CD changer to the car since the last 3 years they halted production of entertainment systems with a CD player.
Wow the topic is hot vs cold so informative thank you sir love your content!!!
Thanks man!!
My 21 year old Toyota Corolla ICE car is still on the road without problems, and I drive my 11 year old Toyota Auris Hybrid every Day.
The Hybrid is for sure the better choise today, because of lower maintenance and better fuel efficiency.
Don’t forget to replace the battery fan filter and always blast the AC in a hybrid. You have to keep the battery pack cool.
You don't need to blast the AC all the time, just keep the fan filter clean and you will be fine
You shouldn't need to replace the filter. Once you have it out of the car you can vacuum it or shoot it with compressed air and it cleans up beautifully.
The heat thing is such an important note I haven’t gotten anywhere else
Agree that brake discs and pads wear less thanks to regenerative braking. My 2008 Prius has done almost 400,000 km and has had 2 front brake changes and is still running on original rear drum / shoe. Disagree about reduced wear of tyres. The tyre doesn't know whether acceleration is by electric motor or petrol and whether braking is done by friction between disc and pad or by resistance from hybrid motor.
Yes I had one too fantastic. Now I have a plug in. Also don't forget the all important hybrid battery filter clean/change.
Good advice, if only you can find one today with the chip issue going on
I own a 2018 lexus rc300h in the 🇬🇧 UK and I love it what an amazing car! You can own a Toyota and lexus with confidence .
I OWNED A 2008 CAMRY HYBRID SOLD IN 016 AND BOUGHT A LEXUS NX 200T, NEVER HAD 1 PROBLEM WITH IT, JUST CHANGED THE OIL, AIR FILTER, SIMPLE STUFF, GREAT HYBRIDS.
Gas car is the perfect choice. Not only can it get you to the supermarket but it will take you across country in a road trip
A hybrid does not use a wall plug.
I did a roadtrip to Salt Lake UT from Los Angeles CA. With the gas prices at the time round trip was little under $100 round trip in my Corolla Hybrid. 2 years later i still can’t believe it
My 2018 Camry Hybrid LE has almost 96k “miles” and Alhamdulillah I’m still using the original break pads.
Thanks 🙏 for the quickest interaction I’ve ever had in CZcams. Love ❤️ from New York City 🏙!
I drive a hybrid vehicle and love it. Other people think a hybrid is electric. I explain that “hybrid” means that it runs on gas, only I get better mileage. They still don’t get it.
My son has had his Toyota Prius Prime (plug-in) for a couple of years now. He has had little maintenance on it and still gets over 100 mpg!!!
I had 240,000 miles on a non hybrid car and never touched the brakes
Wow!!! That’s great
@@ToyotaWorld 99% highway driving probably helped.
Thanks so much for this video. I was scared to buy a hybrid but this gave me something to think about.
Np ! Thanks for watching
@@ToyotaWorld yeah, I couldn’t decide between the Venza or Rav4. Thanks from a Girl in Texas!
Why do people keep saying that the video title is misleading? "Insane" does not necessarily mean that it's expensive. I agree that how it's often used in discussing about cost however in this case he is saying that the maintenance cost of Toyota Hybrid vehicles is insanely low when comparing to Toyota gas-only vehicles. Have a good day.
True dat!
Nice. I have request in at local dealer for a 2023 Camry Hybrid. I currently have an Avalon Hybrid- best car I ever owned. Salesman was encouraging me to consider gas if my desired Camry configuration came in. After watching this- no way.
Title: "...hybrid maintenance cost is insane!" implies insanely high, which is the opposite of the points being made.
For those of you wanting to know more about your Toyota’s and Toyota hybrids from a Toyota master mechanic, go check out @The Car Care Nut on CZcams. He already has videos regarding maintenance tips, intervals, specific videos about different Toyota models, etc. Go check him out!
Also check out @Toyota Maintenance.
I discovered the Car Care Nut a few months ago and love his technical and maintenance videos. I do nearly all my own car maintenance and repairs and still learn a lot more from him than from most automotive channels.
Love the Car Care Nut! He is so knowledgeable and well spoken! I swear he is better than Scotty Kilmer!
You are right about less wear and tear on the hybrid. But I disagree with the tire wear. The tires should wear the same for both vehicles if not slightly sooner since the hybrid is heavier. I have the RAV4 Prime and the tires are half worn at 12000 miles.
@biblereader you do know what the RAV4 Prime is right? It is a plug in hybrid with a much bigger battery. Almost as big as the ones in the Nissan Leaf. The car weights around 5000 lbs. more weight means the tires have to work harder to stop and accelerate.
It may be true for first 128km that hybrid is cheaper. But in long run, gas toyota will kill hybrid toyota cars in maintenance and repair cost savings. Why? Old cars are mostly DIY maintained, and everything can be DIY on gas toyota, but on hybrid anytime hybrid drive train breaks, it's going to be pretty insane cost to repair. It's good to remember that hybrids are just conventional gas car with additional complexities of electronics hybrid power train, none of which are DIY repairable. I had my 2013 toyota prius blow head gasket + bent piston rod few months ago. Toyota dealer asked $4000 to repair, but fortuately, I was able to DIY repair for just $100. That is power of DIY repair which is not available when hybrid power train breaks. If inverter or generator or any other special hybrid parts broke I would have been SOL.
I can guarantee you, If you go in for all the recommended services by Toyota which are not necessarily needed. You might as well go in, take you're pants down and get you're financial spanking. Toyota dealerships have to find more things wrong than there actally are. Ouch! That's why I do 90% of all my own service work on my vehicles. Not just the Toyota.
I would choose a hybrid
great explanation on the heat produced by gas cars that wears down everything more quickly!
i have a 2013 Avalon hybrid and I love it. 75k miles. But I am getting very frustrated when I goto the dealer and get a $1200 repair bill every year. Car is perfect, in the garage, i drive very gentle... The dealer just keeps wanting to replace stuff every time i go in and what do i know ? Just do the maintenance in the book....
The dealer is ripping you off most likely. They don't call them stealerships for nothing.
Marcello. Great info. Just wish they had brought the CHR in Hybrid as they do in Europe. Problem is the pricing would be in Rav 4 territory.
It’s coming.
@@ToyotaWorld No way. I read something that Toyota has a slew of refresh and new models arriving. Another I would like to see is Toyota Cross or Yaris cross
Haven’t heard info on Yaris cross. But toyota cross is supposed to arrive in Canada late this year
@@ToyotaWorld The baby Rav. Corolla cross Well I will keep my eye out.
Do we know when it’ll hit the US? 🇺🇸
I have a 2010 Prius IV with over 210,000 miles and still on first brakes. waiting on delivery of my new 2022 RAV4 hybrid.
Nice!!! Congrats
I own a Honda Insight with which I have made about 230000 km and it has the original brakes and hybrid battery.
Thank you for sharing, very interesting,have a great thanksgiving.
Same to you my friend
Great news but you forgot to mention that after ten years when you need to replace the hybrid battery thats a 10 grand job,also the high voltage wire conectors from the battery to the high voltage motors oxidizing just after the warranty being a cost of over 5 grand .For the small differance in fuel economy i will be staying with gas .
Good thing I don't have to worry about 'heat' being in a cold region of Canada.
My 10 year old ES300h has needed zero maintenance beyond what’s in the standard maintenance interval book. It’s been THE cheapest to operate and most reliable car I’ve ever had
I have a 2017 RAV4 Hybrid and I can tell you that the cost to replace the 12V battery is ridiculous compared to the battery in a gas powered car. The dealer charges $300 for the battery, because it's some sort of "AGM" vented battery. Removal and replacement is a major hassle if you want to do it yourself (the battery's under the floor in the back of the car), and of course the dealer won't install the new battery as part of the purchase price.
None of the after-market parts stores (NAPA, Auto Zone, etc.) in my area carry a battery that matches the one in my car, so I had no choice but to swallow hard and pay the dealer.
Next time , think of doing it yourself. A ton cheaper $$.
There are a lot of DY videos here on how to do it. I’m going to change mine next year. Good luck ! 👍🏼
Thank you so much for these very useful information! highly appreciated.
How come tires get to wear less?
Windshield wipers too?
My 2005 prius had to replace the entire battery because of bad cells, had to replace smaller battery, the pump to cool the battery. Not saying it is necessarily the same as a gas but for my case it's definately NOT without costs.
Loving my '21 Venza even more after this vid. I do have a 2011 Tacoma with about 60k on original brakes and tires. Only changed the battery once. Changed out the air filter and cabin filter once as well, though probably didn't need to. Seems to be the same story on this thread. I believe it has a lot to do with how one drives. If you take care of your vehicle, it will take care of you.
You’ll love replacing the $7k corroded high power cable on your Venza. 💸💸💸💸
@@barackblows1942 I don't need any of your good news
My 2013 Prius still have 50% brake pads at 120k miles. It’s due for a tune up which really isn’t too major at all. Spark plugs mainly and I’m going to replace the struts although they are not even bad yet. Plan to keep it till around $160k and hopefully replace it with an all electric Toyota at that time.
I’m also surprised by the tire wear on this car. The tires have 40k on them and they still have 10k miles left to go. My old Nissan Sentra went through a set of tires around 38k miles.